Guess who gave the Clinton's $100 million?

The corrupt actions by these two, is even worse than we thought...certainly this will make the lib network news...:confused::rolleyes:o_O:wink:

EXCLUSIVE: Persian Gulf Sheikhs Gave Bill & Hillary $100 Million
And that makes her ineligible for president as she cannot accept foreign funds.
The corrupt actions by these two, is even worse than we thought...certainly this will make the lib network news...:confused::rolleyes:o_O:wink:

EXCLUSIVE: Persian Gulf Sheikhs Gave Bill & Hillary $100 Million
And that makes her ineligible for president as she cannot accept foreign funds.
That is why they took the donations with their charity instead of directly to themselves.

Does the Clinton foundation fund her campaign???






Indirectly, yes.
 
And blind partisans coming in to call this another right-wing conspiracy in ..5...4..3..2..

It is another rw conspiracy!! It is an attempt to paint the Clinton's as pets to Rich Muslims when the truth is the Clinton's are no more their pets than the Bushes!!


BOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSHHHHHHH


Bush isn't running, fucktard.
 
The corrupt actions by these two, is even worse than we thought...certainly this will make the lib network news...:confused::rolleyes:o_O:wink:

EXCLUSIVE: Persian Gulf Sheikhs Gave Bill & Hillary $100 Million
And that makes her ineligible for president as she cannot accept foreign funds.
The corrupt actions by these two, is even worse than we thought...certainly this will make the lib network news...:confused::rolleyes:o_O:wink:

EXCLUSIVE: Persian Gulf Sheikhs Gave Bill & Hillary $100 Million
And that makes her ineligible for president as she cannot accept foreign funds.
That is why they took the donations with their charity instead of directly to themselves.

Does the Clinton foundation fund her campaign???






Indirectly, yes.
Money is fungible.
 
What?!?! Trump is the furthest thing from a conservative that I have ever seen. And he would rape his own daughters, then slit their throats, then urinate on their dead bodies if it meant an extra $100 in his pocket.

Seriously dude....what world are you living in that you could have the facts that backwards?!?

You are delusional.

Trump has made a track record of letting the people he deals with make profit alongside him. He is not a cut throat fucktard like Mittens Romney.

Take his Ocean City Casino deal. Trump specializes in two things; scooping up fire sales and making them profitable and selling the right to use his name on suitable hotels. So when he was going for a fire sale on a casino in OCean City, Merv Griffin was bidding against him for the project, so Trump makes a deal with Merv so that Merv got the contract and sold it to Trump for a reasonable mark up. Then Trump goes and raises bonds for the construction and about a year later take it through a bankruptcy debt restructuring and he trades the bond holders stock in the casino in return for them lowering his interest on the bonds and stretching out the payment period.

Everybody involved won, no cut throat bullshit, no making eternal enemies.

And that really pisses off people like you, doesnt it? You want to think that the universe only lets people get ahead that will backstab, lie and descrate ones competitors, but the Truth is that generosity always works better and beats the stupid bean counting nonsense every time. Henry Ford figured that out and he built Ford into one of the largest manufacturing companies in the world, till his kids fucked it all up, lol. And Ford figured out that if you deal with people well they will do more business with you in the long run and you all profit.

But folks like you just hate that, dont you?

roflmao

And no, Trump has helped his kids get the education that they need to be effective executives int he family business and they are.

He is not a conniving cold hearted bastard like you would prefer, like Mittens Romney.
 
What?!?! Trump is the furthest thing from a conservative that I have ever seen. And he would rape his own daughters, then slit their throats, then urinate on their dead bodies if it meant an extra $100 in his pocket.

Seriously dude....what world are you living in that you could have the facts that backwards?!?

You are delusional.

Trump has made a track record of letting the people he deals with make profit alongside him. He is not a cut throat fucktard like Mittens Romney.

Take his Ocean City Casino deal. Trump specializes in two things; scooping up fire sales and making them profitable and selling the right to use his name on suitable hotels. So when he was going for a fire sale on a casino in OCean City, Merv Griffin was bidding against him for the project, so Trump makes a deal with Merv so that Merv got the contract and sold it to Trump for a reasonable mark up. Then Trump goes and raises bonds for the construction and about a year later take it through a bankruptcy debt restructuring and he trades the bond holders stock in the casino in return for them lowering his interest on the bonds and stretching out the payment period.

Everybody involved won, no cut throat bullshit, no making eternal enemies.

And that really pisses off people like you, doesnt it? You want to think that the universe only lets people get ahead that will backstab, lie and descrate ones competitors, but the Truth is that generosity always works better and beats the stupid bean counting nonsense every time. Henry Ford figured that out and he built Ford into one of the largest manufacturing companies in the world, till his kids fucked it all up, lol. And Ford figured out that if you deal with people well they will do more business with you in the long run and you all profit.

But folks like you just hate that, dont you?

roflmao

And no, Trump has helped his kids get the education that they need to be effective executives int he family business and they are.

He is not a conniving cold hearted bastard like you would prefer, like Mittens Romney.
bankruptcy restructuring is paying debt at pennies on the dollar...the people who loaned the money, get dicked.... it's is NOT a win for everyone as you claim Jim.
 
bankruptcy restructuring is paying debt at pennies on the dollar...the people who loaned the money, get dicked.... it's is NOT a win for everyone as you claim Jim.

It depends on the type of bankruptcy. Chapter 11 bankruptcies (in the 2004 case) are different than the others and can allow everyone to stay solvent by simply shifting the debt around..
Chapter 11, Title 11, United States Code - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In this way, jobs may be saved, the (previously mismanaged) engine of profitability which is the business is maintained (presumably under better management) rather than being dismantled, and, as a proponent of a chapter 11 plan is required to demonstrate as a precursor to plan confirmation, the business's creditors end up with more money than they would in a Chapter 7 liquidation.

Trump Entertainment Resorts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On October 21, 2004, the company announced a preliminary agreement with its investors. Trump, who had been the majority owner, would reduce his stock ownership from 56 to 27 percent. Bondholders would surrender some of their debt in exchange for stock. On October 27, the company announced that Morgan Stanley would be the joint lead arranger for a financing of $500 million financing as part of the restructuring plan. On November 21, the company filed for bankruptcy. Trump said the filing was "really just a technical thing" as the best way to implement the restructuring plan.

I have not seen anything that suggest that the 2004 debt restructuring put anyone out of business, and they all came out of it doing well. The investors got stock int he company along with their original bonds.

If I am misreading this, please explain to me how I am.
 
What?!?! Trump is the furthest thing from a conservative that I have ever seen. And he would rape his own daughters, then slit their throats, then urinate on their dead bodies if it meant an extra $100 in his pocket.

Seriously dude....what world are you living in that you could have the facts that backwards?!?

You are delusional.

Trump has made a track record of letting the people he deals with make profit alongside him. He is not a cut throat fucktard like Mittens Romney.

Take his Ocean City Casino deal. Trump specializes in two things; scooping up fire sales and making them profitable and selling the right to use his name on suitable hotels. So when he was going for a fire sale on a casino in OCean City, Merv Griffin was bidding against him for the project, so Trump makes a deal with Merv so that Merv got the contract and sold it to Trump for a reasonable mark up. Then Trump goes and raises bonds for the construction and about a year later take it through a bankruptcy debt restructuring and he trades the bond holders stock in the casino in return for them lowering his interest on the bonds and stretching out the payment period.

Everybody involved won, no cut throat bullshit, no making eternal enemies.

And that really pisses off people like you, doesnt it? You want to think that the universe only lets people get ahead that will backstab, lie and descrate ones competitors, but the Truth is that generosity always works better and beats the stupid bean counting nonsense every time. Henry Ford figured that out and he built Ford into one of the largest manufacturing companies in the world, till his kids fucked it all up, lol. And Ford figured out that if you deal with people well they will do more business with you in the long run and you all profit.

But folks like you just hate that, dont you?

roflmao

And no, Trump has helped his kids get the education that they need to be effective executives int he family business and they are.

He is not a conniving cold hearted bastard like you would prefer, like Mittens Romney.
bankruptcy restructuring is paying debt at pennies on the dollar...the people who loaned the money, get dicked.... it's is NOT a win for everyone as you claim Jim.

They really got dicked when Obama fucked the GM and Chrysler debt holders to give that value to his Commie Union Comrades
 
bankruptcy restructuring is paying debt at pennies on the dollar...the people who loaned the money, get dicked.... it's is NOT a win for everyone as you claim Jim.

It depends on the type of bankruptcy. Chapter 11 bankruptcies (in the 2004 case) are different than the others and can allow everyone to stay solvent by simply shifting the debt around..
Chapter 11, Title 11, United States Code - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In this way, jobs may be saved, the (previously mismanaged) engine of profitability which is the business is maintained (presumably under better management) rather than being dismantled, and, as a proponent of a chapter 11 plan is required to demonstrate as a precursor to plan confirmation, the business's creditors end up with more money than they would in a Chapter 7 liquidation.

Trump Entertainment Resorts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On October 21, 2004, the company announced a preliminary agreement with its investors. Trump, who had been the majority owner, would reduce his stock ownership from 56 to 27 percent. Bondholders would surrender some of their debt in exchange for stock. On October 27, the company announced that Morgan Stanley would be the joint lead arranger for a financing of $500 million financing as part of the restructuring plan. On November 21, the company filed for bankruptcy. Trump said the filing was "really just a technical thing" as the best way to implement the restructuring plan.

I have not seen anything that suggest that the 2004 debt restructuring put anyone out of business, and they all came out of it doing well. The investors got stock int he company along with their original bonds.

If I am misreading this, please explain to me how I am.
It's still taking someone's money, and giving them back LESS than what they owe/ borrowed, even if Chptr11 is better than Chptr7...

You would not need Chapter 11 court protection from your debt if everyone was simply, ''making out fine''...you could make those agreements with who you owed without the bankruptcy court judge....if everyone is making out fine and dandy.
 
It's still taking someone's money, and giving them back LESS than what they owe/ borrowed, even if Chptr11 is better than Chptr7...

You would not need Chapter 11 court protection from your debt if everyone was simply, ''making out fine''...you could make those agreements with who you owed without the bankruptcy court judge....if everyone is making out fine and dandy.

Well, I understand why you are saying this, but I disagree. There is no reason to assert that the bond holders lost money at all. They merely traded some of the value for the bonds in exchange for stock.

No one took a bath, hundreds of jobs were saved and Trump still made lots of money.

I cant wait to see what he can do for the USA middle class.
 
It's still taking someone's money, and giving them back LESS than what they owe/ borrowed, even if Chptr11 is better than Chptr7...

You would not need Chapter 11 court protection from your debt if everyone was simply, ''making out fine''...you could make those agreements with who you owed without the bankruptcy court judge....if everyone is making out fine and dandy.

Well, I understand why you are saying this, but I disagree. There is no reason to assert that the bond holders lost money at all. They merely traded some of the value for the bonds in exchange for stock.

No one took a bath, hundreds of jobs were saved and Trump still made lots of money.

I cant wait to see what he can do for the USA middle class.
Nothing to help us Jim he will only hurt the Nation....we are not a business and there are major concerns about his flippant mouth hurting us tremendously, and God willing, Mr. Trump will never ever step foot in office unless it is God's time for the antichrist to rise! :eek:
 
Nothing to help us Jim he will only hurt the Nation....we are not a business and there are major concerns about his flippant mouth hurting us tremendously, and God willing, Mr. Trump will never ever step foot in office unless it is God's time for the antichrist to rise! :eek:

I think the Middle Class is tired of being lied to and fucked in the ass and is willing vote for a rabid baboon instead of the typical Professional Politician now.
 
And blind partisans coming in to call this another right-wing conspiracy in ..5...4..3..2..

It is another rw conspiracy!! It is an attempt to paint the Clinton's as pets to Rich Muslims when the truth is the Clinton's are no more their pets than the Bushes!!
I was unaware that a member of the Bush Dynasty was going to be on the ballot for president this year.
Is Jeb doing better than I thought?
 
Nothing to help us Jim he will only hurt the Nation....we are not a business and there are major concerns about his flippant mouth hurting us tremendously, and God willing, Mr. Trump will never ever step foot in office unless it is God's time for the antichrist to rise! :eek:

I think the Middle Class is tired of being lied to and fucked in the ass and is willing vote for a rabid baboon instead of the typical Professional Politician now.
There is no one that has lied more than Trump in this race....and he's not even with or in gov't power yet.
You are smarter and better than this.... talk with your wife, seek the truth, open your mind, and lastly...pray.

Out of the frying pan and in to the fire is NOT the wise way to go.

We will always disagree on this one.... :beer:
 

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