Gun background checks in August set another record....good for us. More guns = less crime.

[miketx]

You can always go live there if that's your ideal country. Need help packing?

How badly must it suck for you that had Hillary won, we'd already be half way to Venezuela. One more Scotus vote was all you needed

I didn't vote for Hillderbeast. Too bad for you. The POTUS we have now is Making America Dumber.

How so....? Every category of success is up with Trump in office......it was obama who said we would never have higher numbers and we just needed to get used to it.........

Trump is by far the dumbest prez ever. His supporters show how dumb America really is.

Yes....a dumb guy who built a world wide business empire, and as a political newbie, defeated the 16 professional Republican politicians including the Bush dynasty, and then defeated the clinton crime family and the obama chicago crime machine who both had the entire media complex behind them including hollywood......

That dumb guy beat them all and became the President....so how fucking smart are all those people he beat....?

They keep stepping in that fact don't they?

 

[2aguy]

Progressive ideals breeds violence… Fact

Prove it then.

Just look at Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, New Orleans, etc... All progressive controlled urban areas with extremely strict gun control laws. Basically like Third World countries in more ways than one

But if more guns is the answer, why aren't those cities the safest places on earth?

Guns are a neutral entity in the equation.

So you're saying that guns don't make anyone safer.

They make 1.1 million Americans safer every year, according to the CDC research.

Also, you still won't explain how gun murder went down 49%, gun crime went down 75%, violent crime went down 72% as more Americans now own and carry guns....over 17.2 million Americans who now can carry guns for self defense...and all that crime went down.

You haven't answered that.

You also haven't answered how Britain, who did exactly what you want, banning and confiscating guns...an island no less, now has increasing gun violence and crime..

You can't explain that...

 

[2aguy]

Yep, we're doing ggggrrrreat!!

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The vast majority of violent crime in this country is in urban progressive controlled urban areas with extremely strict gun control laws...
Firearms have nothing to do with violent crime

"extremely strict gun control laws" The laws don't work, time to try or find something new. Or let me guess, you don't care about violence in cities.

Yes. we care, you guys don't care you just want to take guns away from people who do not use them for crime.

We know what works, you don't. We know that if you lock up known, repeat.......to repeat, known and repeat, violent gun offenders who are the ones shooting people, the gun crime rate in democrat cities would go down. But what do your democrats do? They keep letting known, violent, repeat gun offenders out on bail and out of jail...over and over again.

Why do they do that? Can you explain that?

 

[2aguy]

The vast majority of violent crime in this country is in urban progressive controlled urban areas with extremely strict gun control laws...
Firearms have nothing to do with violent crime

"extremely strict gun control laws" The laws don't work, time to try or find something new. Or let me guess, you don't care about violence in cities.

Progressive ideals breeds violence… Fact

Prove it then.

Just look at Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, New Orleans, etc... All progressive controlled urban areas with extremely strict gun control laws. Basically like Third World countries in more ways than one

But if more guns is the answer, why aren't those cities the safest places on earth?

Because the democrats in charge keep letting the violent, repeat gun offenders who are known to police out on bail, and out of jail over and over again, at the same time as these democrats are attacking the police, cutting their manpower and resources.......and keeping law abiding gun owners unarmed in the face of the very violent, repeat gun offenders the democrats keep letting out of jail.

That is why. And until you recognize that truth, you will not do anything to lower violent crime in those cities.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Yep, we're doing ggggrrrreat!!

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Why can't we be more like Venezuela where only the government has guns and made everyone equal?

You can always go live there if that's your ideal country. Need help packing?

How badly must it suck for you that had Hillary won, we'd already be half way to Venezuela. One more Scotus vote was all you needed

a lot of socialist dreams went down the drain because of that

hopefully Trump will get one more reinforcement pick to the SC

 

[Taz]

You can always go live there if that's your ideal country. Need help packing?

How badly must it suck for you that had Hillary won, we'd already be half way to Venezuela. One more Scotus vote was all you needed

I didn't vote for Hillderbeast. Too bad for you. The POTUS we have now is Making America Dumber.

How so....? Every category of success is up with Trump in office......it was obama who said we would never have higher numbers and we just needed to get used to it.........

Trump is by far the dumbest prez ever. His supporters show how dumb America really is.

Yes....a dumb guy who built a world wide business empire, and as a political newbie, defeated the 16 professional Republican politicians including the Bush dynasty, and then defeated the clinton crime family and the obama chicago crime machine who both had the entire media complex behind them including hollywood......

That dumb guy beat them all and became the President....so how fucking smart are all those people he beat....?

It just shows that there are more dumb people in America ready to vote for an imbecile. That's all.

 

[Taz]

Prove it then.

Just look at Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, New Orleans, etc... All progressive controlled urban areas with extremely strict gun control laws. Basically like Third World countries in more ways than one

But if more guns is the answer, why aren't those cities the safest places on earth?

Guns are a neutral entity in the equation.

So you're saying that guns don't make anyone safer.

They make 1.1 million Americans safer every year, according to the CDC research.

Also, you still won't explain how gun murder went down 49%, gun crime went down 75%, violent crime went down 72% as more Americans now own and carry guns....over 17.2 million Americans who now can carry guns for self defense...and all that crime went down.

You haven't answered that.

You also haven't answered how Britain, who did exactly what you want, banning and confiscating guns...an island no less, now has increasing gun violence and crime..

You can't explain that...

So why isn't Chicago the safest place on earth.

"They make 1.1 million Americans safer every year, according to the CDC research." So in 400 years we might all be safe. Good to know.

 

[Taz]

Yep, we're doing ggggrrrreat!!

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The vast majority of violent crime in this country is in urban progressive controlled urban areas with extremely strict gun control laws...
Firearms have nothing to do with violent crime

"extremely strict gun control laws" The laws don't work, time to try or find something new. Or let me guess, you don't care about violence in cities.

Yes. we care, you guys don't care you just want to take guns away from people who do not use them for crime.

We know what works, you don't. We know that if you lock up known, repeat.......to repeat, known and repeat, violent gun offenders who are the ones shooting people, the gun crime rate in democrat cities would go down. But what do your democrats do? They keep letting known, violent, repeat gun offenders out on bail and out of jail...over and over again.

Why do they do that? Can you explain that?

So lock up and throw away the AFTER they've killed someone. Is that all you've got? Because that's laughable. We have almost the stiffest sentences in the world already.

 

[2aguy]

How badly must it suck for you that had Hillary won, we'd already be half way to Venezuela. One more Scotus vote was all you needed

I didn't vote for Hillderbeast. Too bad for you. The POTUS we have now is Making America Dumber.

How so....? Every category of success is up with Trump in office......it was obama who said we would never have higher numbers and we just needed to get used to it.........

Trump is by far the dumbest prez ever. His supporters show how dumb America really is.

Yes....a dumb guy who built a world wide business empire, and as a political newbie, defeated the 16 professional Republican politicians including the Bush dynasty, and then defeated the clinton crime family and the obama chicago crime machine who both had the entire media complex behind them including hollywood......

That dumb guy beat them all and became the President....so how fucking smart are all those people he beat....?

It just shows that there are more dumb people in America ready to vote for an imbecile. That's all.

You mean the guy who destroyed isis after obama allowed them to take over half of Iraq? The guy who has the economy buzzing at 4.1% growth when obama said we should only expect 1% growth from now on? The guy who has helped put more minorities to work in this country, when obama didn't care? The guy who has increased wages by2.9% after only a year and a half? The guy who is getting Europe to pay for their own defense? The guy who didn't tell putin to wait till after the election when he would help him, but instead has blocked him at every step?

You mean that guy?

 

[2aguy]

Yep, we're doing ggggrrrreat!!

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The vast majority of violent crime in this country is in urban progressive controlled urban areas with extremely strict gun control laws...
Firearms have nothing to do with violent crime

"extremely strict gun control laws" The laws don't work, time to try or find something new. Or let me guess, you don't care about violence in cities.

Yes. we care, you guys don't care you just want to take guns away from people who do not use them for crime.

We know what works, you don't. We know that if you lock up known, repeat.......to repeat, known and repeat, violent gun offenders who are the ones shooting people, the gun crime rate in democrat cities would go down. But what do your democrats do? They keep letting known, violent, repeat gun offenders out on bail and out of jail...over and over again.

Why do they do that? Can you explain that?

So lock up and throw away the AFTER they've killed someone. Is that all you've got? Because that's laughable. We have almost the stiffest sentences in the world already.

Nope......you have seen my posts for the last few years....you know my plan which has been shown to work because this is the way Japan does it.


If you use a gun to commit a crime, rape, robbery, attempted murder....you go to prison for 30 years.

If you are a felon caught in possession of an illegal gun, you get 30 years.

If you commit murder with a gun, you get the death penalty.

The problem we have now is that left wing, SJW judges keep letting known, violent gun offenders out on bail, and out of jail...over and over again. The guy caught murdering someone today was carrying an illegal gun yesterday......and likely he was caught with that gun, went to court, and was released on bail, or was sentenced to less than 3 years, he gets out, and gets another illegal gun and murders someone.

The revolving door policy for gun criminals is fueling our gun violence, not law abiding citizens who own and carry guns for self defense. Lock up the violent repeat offenders caught in the commission of violent crime and you end the flood.

 

[2aguy]

Just look at Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, New Orleans, etc... All progressive controlled urban areas with extremely strict gun control laws. Basically like Third World countries in more ways than one

But if more guns is the answer, why aren't those cities the safest places on earth?

Guns are a neutral entity in the equation.

So you're saying that guns don't make anyone safer.

They make 1.1 million Americans safer every year, according to the CDC research.

Also, you still won't explain how gun murder went down 49%, gun crime went down 75%, violent crime went down 72% as more Americans now own and carry guns....over 17.2 million Americans who now can carry guns for self defense...and all that crime went down.

You haven't answered that.

You also haven't answered how Britain, who did exactly what you want, banning and confiscating guns...an island no less, now has increasing gun violence and crime..

You can't explain that...

So why isn't Chicago the safest place on earth.

"They make 1.1 million Americans safer every year, according to the CDC research." So in 400 years we might all be safe. Good to know.

Chicago isn't safe because the democrat politicians at the ward level are working with the street gangs. Chicago politicians are keeping police resources out of their neighborhoods because they are working with the street gangs. Chicago judges, who are SJWs, keep releasing violent, repeat gun offenders back onto the streets......they then go out and shoot people...this is the problem.

The same dynamic is happening in St. Louis, democrat controlled, Baltimore, democrat controlled, D.C., democrat controlled, New Orleans, democrat controlled.

They refuse to lock up violent, repeat gun offenders. Why is that?

And yes, the CDC found that 1.1 million Americans, on average each year, use their guns to stop violent criminals.....imagine what the country would be like if they didn't have those guns...

Here...read up on Chicago's revolving door policy for known, repeat gun offenders...

and from the article below, why won't people help the police? Because the shooter they identify today, is back on the street, on bail tomorrow, or out of jail in less than 3 years.....would you identify a killer who will be back on your block in a matter of days?

The Real Reasons for Chicago's Deadly Crime Wave

Because it’s Chicago — where support from “the community” typically hovers near zero — police seldom identify any suspects, much less make arrests. In fact, CPD has made arrests in only 13% of homicides so far in 2018.
A casual glance through the confidential DSR reveals that virtually every victim of Chicago violence last weekend had gang ties. Either as a member of a gang or those (often young females) who hang out with gang members. The other glaring common thread: the victims themselves usually have criminal histories, too.

In fact, poring over the fifteen pages of incidents (pasted end to end, that’s over 10 feet of incidents), only 21 of the 78 victims did not have a criminal history. Meanwhile, those with arrest records garnered a total of 813 arrests between them.

Eight hundred thirteen arrests.

At the same time, Cook County’s infamous “catch and release” criminal justice system only managed to gain convictions in 120 of those 813 arrests.


For example, one 23-year-old Black P. Stone gang member who was shot in the gut had 35 arrests and zero convictions. One perforated 66-year-old had 55 arrests!


Another 32-year-old Four Corner Hustlers member, Charles Green, had 62 arrests, but he won’t re-offend. Not after he suffered multiple gunshot wounds that proved fatal. Green’s colorful past included arrests for dope, more dope, armed robbery, and a murder for which Cook County prosecutor Kim Foxx released him without charges.

Tip for the day, besides avoiding Chicago: mommas, don’t let your girls hang out with gang members. Otherwise, they can find themselves caught in the crossfire, and they don’t always survive.
Three young adult women without any criminal history or gang affiliations suffered gunshot wounds in a single incident at 1338 S. Millard Ave. Two offenders began shooting into “a large street gathering” wounding a total of seven. Tragically, a 17-year-old girl named Jahnae Patterson died there from a wound to her face.
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Meanwhile, another victim at that same location, aged 14, remains in good condition. How terrible, you say? That same 14-year-old named Marion already has two arrests for car burglaries and a Strategic Subject List (SSL) score of 385. The SSL score serves to indicate potential future criminal behavior. As defined by the City of Chicago:

Another case caught my eye. The victim, Miguel, a 19-year-old Hispanic male, told police he saw some people who recognized him emerge from a convenience store. For some unknown reason (he says) they began chasing him in the 3900 block of S. Rockwell. In the alley behind the store, he heard gunshots and felt pain.

Before you start oozing sympathy for this poor teen, know that CPD says Miguel also moonlights as a Satan Disciples gang member and has built his SSL score to 500. With a SSL score that high, Darwin will probably catch up with him soon enough, assuming he survives this hospital visit.

 

[Taz]

I didn't vote for Hillderbeast. Too bad for you. The POTUS we have now is Making America Dumber.

How so....? Every category of success is up with Trump in office......it was obama who said we would never have higher numbers and we just needed to get used to it.........

Trump is by far the dumbest prez ever. His supporters show how dumb America really is.

Yes....a dumb guy who built a world wide business empire, and as a political newbie, defeated the 16 professional Republican politicians including the Bush dynasty, and then defeated the clinton crime family and the obama chicago crime machine who both had the entire media complex behind them including hollywood......

That dumb guy beat them all and became the President....so how fucking smart are all those people he beat....?

It just shows that there are more dumb people in America ready to vote for an imbecile. That's all.

You mean the guy who destroyed isis after obama allowed them to take over half of Iraq? The guy who has the economy buzzing at 4.1% growth when obama said we should only expect 1% growth from now on? The guy who has helped put more minorities to work in this country, when obama didn't care? The guy who has increased wages by2.9% after only a year and a half? The guy who is getting Europe to pay for their own defense? The guy who didn't tell putin to wait till after the election when he would help him, but instead has blocked him at every step?

You mean that guy?

Don't recognize that person, did you just make all that up?

 

[2aguy]

Yep, we're doing ggggrrrreat!!

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The vast majority of violent crime in this country is in urban progressive controlled urban areas with extremely strict gun control laws...
Firearms have nothing to do with violent crime

"extremely strict gun control laws" The laws don't work, time to try or find something new. Or let me guess, you don't care about violence in cities.

Yes. we care, you guys don't care you just want to take guns away from people who do not use them for crime.

We know what works, you don't. We know that if you lock up known, repeat.......to repeat, known and repeat, violent gun offenders who are the ones shooting people, the gun crime rate in democrat cities would go down. But what do your democrats do? They keep letting known, violent, repeat gun offenders out on bail and out of jail...over and over again.

Why do they do that? Can you explain that?

So lock up and throw away the AFTER they've killed someone. Is that all you've got? Because that's laughable. We have almost the stiffest sentences in the world already.

No, we don't have the stiffest sentences....in Chicago, repeat gun offenders, felons caught with illegal guns, get less than 3 years...and they are out.....

 

[2aguy]

How so....? Every category of success is up with Trump in office......it was obama who said we would never have higher numbers and we just needed to get used to it.........

Trump is by far the dumbest prez ever. His supporters show how dumb America really is.

Yes....a dumb guy who built a world wide business empire, and as a political newbie, defeated the 16 professional Republican politicians including the Bush dynasty, and then defeated the clinton crime family and the obama chicago crime machine who both had the entire media complex behind them including hollywood......

That dumb guy beat them all and became the President....so how fucking smart are all those people he beat....?

It just shows that there are more dumb people in America ready to vote for an imbecile. That's all.

You mean the guy who destroyed isis after obama allowed them to take over half of Iraq? The guy who has the economy buzzing at 4.1% growth when obama said we should only expect 1% growth from now on? The guy who has helped put more minorities to work in this country, when obama didn't care? The guy who has increased wages by2.9% after only a year and a half? The guy who is getting Europe to pay for their own defense? The guy who didn't tell putin to wait till after the election when he would help him, but instead has blocked him at every step?

You mean that guy?

Don't recognize that person, did you just make all that up?

And that is why you can't be taken seriously.....

 

[Taz]

Yep, we're doing ggggrrrreat!!

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The vast majority of violent crime in this country is in urban progressive controlled urban areas with extremely strict gun control laws...
Firearms have nothing to do with violent crime

"extremely strict gun control laws" The laws don't work, time to try or find something new. Or let me guess, you don't care about violence in cities.

Yes. we care, you guys don't care you just want to take guns away from people who do not use them for crime.

We know what works, you don't. We know that if you lock up known, repeat.......to repeat, known and repeat, violent gun offenders who are the ones shooting people, the gun crime rate in democrat cities would go down. But what do your democrats do? They keep letting known, violent, repeat gun offenders out on bail and out of jail...over and over again.

Why do they do that? Can you explain that?

So lock up and throw away the AFTER they've killed someone. Is that all you've got? Because that's laughable. We have almost the stiffest sentences in the world already.

Nope......you have seen my posts for the last few years....you know my plan which has been shown to work because this is the way Japan does it.


If you use a gun to commit a crime, rape, robbery, attempted murder....you go to prison for 30 years.

If you are a felon caught in possession of an illegal gun, you get 30 years.

If you commit murder with a gun, you get the death penalty.

The problem we have now is that left wing, SJW judges keep letting known, violent gun offenders out on bail, and out of jail...over and over again. The guy caught murdering someone today was carrying an illegal gun yesterday......and likely he was caught with that gun, went to court, and was released on bail, or was sentenced to less than 3 years, he gets out, and gets another illegal gun and murders someone.

The revolving door policy for gun criminals is fueling our gun violence, not law abiding citizens who own and carry guns for self defense. Lock up the violent repeat offenders caught in the commission of violent crime and you end the flood.

I don't disagree with keeping them in jail, but it still won't solve the gun problems in the US, we already lock up more people then anywhere else in the world.

 

[Taz]

But if more guns is the answer, why aren't those cities the safest places on earth?

Guns are a neutral entity in the equation.

So you're saying that guns don't make anyone safer.

They make 1.1 million Americans safer every year, according to the CDC research.

Also, you still won't explain how gun murder went down 49%, gun crime went down 75%, violent crime went down 72% as more Americans now own and carry guns....over 17.2 million Americans who now can carry guns for self defense...and all that crime went down.

You haven't answered that.

You also haven't answered how Britain, who did exactly what you want, banning and confiscating guns...an island no less, now has increasing gun violence and crime..

You can't explain that...

So why isn't Chicago the safest place on earth.

"They make 1.1 million Americans safer every year, according to the CDC research." So in 400 years we might all be safe. Good to know.

Chicago isn't safe because the democrat politicians at the ward level are working with the street gangs. Chicago politicians are keeping police resources out of their neighborhoods because they are working with the street gangs. Chicago judges, who are SJWs, keep releasing violent, repeat gun offenders back onto the streets......they then go out and shoot people...this is the problem.

The same dynamic is happening in St. Louis, democrat controlled, Baltimore, democrat controlled, D.C., democrat controlled, New Orleans, democrat controlled.

They refuse to lock up violent, repeat gun offenders. Why is that?

And yes, the CDC found that 1.1 million Americans, on average each year, use their guns to stop violent criminals.....imagine what the country would be like if they didn't have those guns...

Here...read up on Chicago's revolving door policy for known, repeat gun offenders...

and from the article below, why won't people help the police? Because the shooter they identify today, is back on the street, on bail tomorrow, or out of jail in less than 3 years.....would you identify a killer who will be back on your block in a matter of days?

The Real Reasons for Chicago's Deadly Crime Wave

Because it’s Chicago — where support from “the community” typically hovers near zero — police seldom identify any suspects, much less make arrests. In fact, CPD has made arrests in only 13% of homicides so far in 2018.
A casual glance through the confidential DSR reveals that virtually every victim of Chicago violence last weekend had gang ties. Either as a member of a gang or those (often young females) who hang out with gang members. The other glaring common thread: the victims themselves usually have criminal histories, too.

In fact, poring over the fifteen pages of incidents (pasted end to end, that’s over 10 feet of incidents), only 21 of the 78 victims did not have a criminal history. Meanwhile, those with arrest records garnered a total of 813 arrests between them.

Eight hundred thirteen arrests.

At the same time, Cook County’s infamous “catch and release” criminal justice system only managed to gain convictions in 120 of those 813 arrests.


For example, one 23-year-old Black P. Stone gang member who was shot in the gut had 35 arrests and zero convictions. One perforated 66-year-old had 55 arrests!


Another 32-year-old Four Corner Hustlers member, Charles Green, had 62 arrests, but he won’t re-offend. Not after he suffered multiple gunshot wounds that proved fatal. Green’s colorful past included arrests for dope, more dope, armed robbery, and a murder for which Cook County prosecutor Kim Foxx released him without charges.

Tip for the day, besides avoiding Chicago: mommas, don’t let your girls hang out with gang members. Otherwise, they can find themselves caught in the crossfire, and they don’t always survive.
Three young adult women without any criminal history or gang affiliations suffered gunshot wounds in a single incident at 1338 S. Millard Ave. Two offenders began shooting into “a large street gathering” wounding a total of seven. Tragically, a 17-year-old girl named Jahnae Patterson died there from a wound to her face.
--------------
Meanwhile, another victim at that same location, aged 14, remains in good condition. How terrible, you say? That same 14-year-old named Marion already has two arrests for car burglaries and a Strategic Subject List (SSL) score of 385. The SSL score serves to indicate potential future criminal behavior. As defined by the City of Chicago:

Another case caught my eye. The victim, Miguel, a 19-year-old Hispanic male, told police he saw some people who recognized him emerge from a convenience store. For some unknown reason (he says) they began chasing him in the 3900 block of S. Rockwell. In the alley behind the store, he heard gunshots and felt pain.

Before you start oozing sympathy for this poor teen, know that CPD says Miguel also moonlights as a Satan Disciples gang member and has built his SSL score to 500. With a SSL score that high, Darwin will probably catch up with him soon enough, assuming he survives this hospital visit.

But all these people have lots of guns, so why aren't they and Chicago safe? Do they need even more guns?

 

[2aguy]

The vast majority of violent crime in this country is in urban progressive controlled urban areas with extremely strict gun control laws...
Firearms have nothing to do with violent crime

"extremely strict gun control laws" The laws don't work, time to try or find something new. Or let me guess, you don't care about violence in cities.

Yes. we care, you guys don't care you just want to take guns away from people who do not use them for crime.

We know what works, you don't. We know that if you lock up known, repeat.......to repeat, known and repeat, violent gun offenders who are the ones shooting people, the gun crime rate in democrat cities would go down. But what do your democrats do? They keep letting known, violent, repeat gun offenders out on bail and out of jail...over and over again.

Why do they do that? Can you explain that?

So lock up and throw away the AFTER they've killed someone. Is that all you've got? Because that's laughable. We have almost the stiffest sentences in the world already.

Nope......you have seen my posts for the last few years....you know my plan which has been shown to work because this is the way Japan does it.


If you use a gun to commit a crime, rape, robbery, attempted murder....you go to prison for 30 years.

If you are a felon caught in possession of an illegal gun, you get 30 years.

If you commit murder with a gun, you get the death penalty.

The problem we have now is that left wing, SJW judges keep letting known, violent gun offenders out on bail, and out of jail...over and over again. The guy caught murdering someone today was carrying an illegal gun yesterday......and likely he was caught with that gun, went to court, and was released on bail, or was sentenced to less than 3 years, he gets out, and gets another illegal gun and murders someone.

The revolving door policy for gun criminals is fueling our gun violence, not law abiding citizens who own and carry guns for self defense. Lock up the violent repeat offenders caught in the commission of violent crime and you end the flood.

I don't disagree with keeping them in jail, but it still won't solve the gun problems in the US, we already lock up more people then anywhere else in the world.

Yes... it will solve the gun problem since 90% of those who commit murder are criminals with long histories of crime and violence.....allowing them out of jail over and over again gives them the chance to murder people....

Japan used to have violent Yakuza turf wars....they used guns and grenades, the last one was in 2006 and lasted 7 years...then, they increased the jail sentences for possession of an illegal gun.....and now Yakuza will not carry guns...

Here, in the states.....less than 3 years in prison for an illegal gun, or a violent crime with an illegal gun only gives the criminal more street cred....gives them a boost up in their gang.....they noticed this in Japan with their criminals...and long prison sentences stopped it...

Japan’s gun control laws so strict the Yakuza turn to toy pistols



Ryo Fujiwara, long-time writer on yakuza affairs and author of the book, The Three Yamaguchi-Gumi, says that the punishment for using a gun in a gang war or in a crime is now so heavy that most yakuza avoid their use at all – unless it is for an assassination.

“In a hit, whoever fires the gun, or is made to take responsibility for firing the gun, has to pretty much be willing to go to jail for the rest of their life. That’s a big decision. The repercussions are big, too. No one wants to claim responsibility for such acts – the gang office might actually get shut-down.”

The gang typically also has to support the family of the hit-man while he is in prison, which is also a financial burden for the organization.

Japan’s Firearms and Swords Control Laws make it a crime to illegally possess a gun, with a punishment of jail time of up to 10 years.

Illegal possession more than one gun, the penalty goes up to 15 years in prison. If you own a gun and matching ammunition, that’s another charge and a heavier penalty. The most severe penalty is for the act of discharging a gun in a train, on a bus, or most public spaces, which can result in a life sentence.

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A low-ranking member of the Kobe-Yamaguchi-gumi put it this way: “All of the smart guys got rid of their guns a long-time ago. The penalties are way too high. You get life in prison if you just fire a gun. That’s not fun.”

 

[Taz]

Trump is by far the dumbest prez ever. His supporters show how dumb America really is.

Yes....a dumb guy who built a world wide business empire, and as a political newbie, defeated the 16 professional Republican politicians including the Bush dynasty, and then defeated the clinton crime family and the obama chicago crime machine who both had the entire media complex behind them including hollywood......

That dumb guy beat them all and became the President....so how fucking smart are all those people he beat....?

It just shows that there are more dumb people in America ready to vote for an imbecile. That's all.

You mean the guy who destroyed isis after obama allowed them to take over half of Iraq? The guy who has the economy buzzing at 4.1% growth when obama said we should only expect 1% growth from now on? The guy who has helped put more minorities to work in this country, when obama didn't care? The guy who has increased wages by2.9% after only a year and a half? The guy who is getting Europe to pay for their own defense? The guy who didn't tell putin to wait till after the election when he would help him, but instead has blocked him at every step?

You mean that guy?

Don't recognize that person, did you just make all that up?

And that is why you can't be taken seriously.....

I don't deny that Trump has done some good and some bad, but he's a fucking non-class moron. But I am enjoying the show!

 

[2aguy]

Guns are a neutral entity in the equation.

So you're saying that guns don't make anyone safer.

They make 1.1 million Americans safer every year, according to the CDC research.

Also, you still won't explain how gun murder went down 49%, gun crime went down 75%, violent crime went down 72% as more Americans now own and carry guns....over 17.2 million Americans who now can carry guns for self defense...and all that crime went down.

You haven't answered that.

You also haven't answered how Britain, who did exactly what you want, banning and confiscating guns...an island no less, now has increasing gun violence and crime..

You can't explain that...

So why isn't Chicago the safest place on earth.

"They make 1.1 million Americans safer every year, according to the CDC research." So in 400 years we might all be safe. Good to know.

Chicago isn't safe because the democrat politicians at the ward level are working with the street gangs. Chicago politicians are keeping police resources out of their neighborhoods because they are working with the street gangs. Chicago judges, who are SJWs, keep releasing violent, repeat gun offenders back onto the streets......they then go out and shoot people...this is the problem.

The same dynamic is happening in St. Louis, democrat controlled, Baltimore, democrat controlled, D.C., democrat controlled, New Orleans, democrat controlled.

They refuse to lock up violent, repeat gun offenders. Why is that?

And yes, the CDC found that 1.1 million Americans, on average each year, use their guns to stop violent criminals.....imagine what the country would be like if they didn't have those guns...

Here...read up on Chicago's revolving door policy for known, repeat gun offenders...

and from the article below, why won't people help the police? Because the shooter they identify today, is back on the street, on bail tomorrow, or out of jail in less than 3 years.....would you identify a killer who will be back on your block in a matter of days?

The Real Reasons for Chicago's Deadly Crime Wave

Because it’s Chicago — where support from “the community” typically hovers near zero — police seldom identify any suspects, much less make arrests. In fact, CPD has made arrests in only 13% of homicides so far in 2018.
A casual glance through the confidential DSR reveals that virtually every victim of Chicago violence last weekend had gang ties. Either as a member of a gang or those (often young females) who hang out with gang members. The other glaring common thread: the victims themselves usually have criminal histories, too.

In fact, poring over the fifteen pages of incidents (pasted end to end, that’s over 10 feet of incidents), only 21 of the 78 victims did not have a criminal history. Meanwhile, those with arrest records garnered a total of 813 arrests between them.

Eight hundred thirteen arrests.

At the same time, Cook County’s infamous “catch and release” criminal justice system only managed to gain convictions in 120 of those 813 arrests.


For example, one 23-year-old Black P. Stone gang member who was shot in the gut had 35 arrests and zero convictions. One perforated 66-year-old had 55 arrests!


Another 32-year-old Four Corner Hustlers member, Charles Green, had 62 arrests, but he won’t re-offend. Not after he suffered multiple gunshot wounds that proved fatal. Green’s colorful past included arrests for dope, more dope, armed robbery, and a murder for which Cook County prosecutor Kim Foxx released him without charges.

Tip for the day, besides avoiding Chicago: mommas, don’t let your girls hang out with gang members. Otherwise, they can find themselves caught in the crossfire, and they don’t always survive.
Three young adult women without any criminal history or gang affiliations suffered gunshot wounds in a single incident at 1338 S. Millard Ave. Two offenders began shooting into “a large street gathering” wounding a total of seven. Tragically, a 17-year-old girl named Jahnae Patterson died there from a wound to her face.
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Meanwhile, another victim at that same location, aged 14, remains in good condition. How terrible, you say? That same 14-year-old named Marion already has two arrests for car burglaries and a Strategic Subject List (SSL) score of 385. The SSL score serves to indicate potential future criminal behavior. As defined by the City of Chicago:

Another case caught my eye. The victim, Miguel, a 19-year-old Hispanic male, told police he saw some people who recognized him emerge from a convenience store. For some unknown reason (he says) they began chasing him in the 3900 block of S. Rockwell. In the alley behind the store, he heard gunshots and felt pain.

Before you start oozing sympathy for this poor teen, know that CPD says Miguel also moonlights as a Satan Disciples gang member and has built his SSL score to 500. With a SSL score that high, Darwin will probably catch up with him soon enough, assuming he survives this hospital visit.

But all these people have lots of guns, so why aren't they and Chicago safe? Do they need even more guns?

They are criminals with guns.....using them to shoot people to have power over them. Notice that as Law Abiding Citizens started to own and carry guns, our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%.....

If you have a criminal who uses a gun and you keep letting them out of jail regardless of the gun crime, they are going to shoot people......

Chicago just passed Concealed carry, they don't have any gun stores and no gun ranges in the city......law abiding citzens are the only ones who don't have guns...yet.

 

[Taz]

"extremely strict gun control laws" The laws don't work, time to try or find something new. Or let me guess, you don't care about violence in cities.

Yes. we care, you guys don't care you just want to take guns away from people who do not use them for crime.

We know what works, you don't. We know that if you lock up known, repeat.......to repeat, known and repeat, violent gun offenders who are the ones shooting people, the gun crime rate in democrat cities would go down. But what do your democrats do? They keep letting known, violent, repeat gun offenders out on bail and out of jail...over and over again.

Why do they do that? Can you explain that?

So lock up and throw away the AFTER they've killed someone. Is that all you've got? Because that's laughable. We have almost the stiffest sentences in the world already.

Nope......you have seen my posts for the last few years....you know my plan which has been shown to work because this is the way Japan does it.


If you use a gun to commit a crime, rape, robbery, attempted murder....you go to prison for 30 years.

If you are a felon caught in possession of an illegal gun, you get 30 years.

If you commit murder with a gun, you get the death penalty.

The problem we have now is that left wing, SJW judges keep letting known, violent gun offenders out on bail, and out of jail...over and over again. The guy caught murdering someone today was carrying an illegal gun yesterday......and likely he was caught with that gun, went to court, and was released on bail, or was sentenced to less than 3 years, he gets out, and gets another illegal gun and murders someone.

The revolving door policy for gun criminals is fueling our gun violence, not law abiding citizens who own and carry guns for self defense. Lock up the violent repeat offenders caught in the commission of violent crime and you end the flood.

I don't disagree with keeping them in jail, but it still won't solve the gun problems in the US, we already lock up more people then anywhere else in the world.

Yes... it will solve the gun problem since 90% of those who commit murder are criminals with long histories of crime and violence.....allowing them out of jail over and over again gives them the chance to murder people....

Japan used to have violent Yakuza turf wars....they used guns and grenades, the last one was in 2006 and lasted 7 years...then, they increased the jail sentences for possession of an illegal gun.....and now Yakuza will not carry guns...

Here, in the states.....less than 3 years in prison for an illegal gun, or a violent crime with an illegal gun only gives the criminal more street cred....gives them a boost up in their gang.....they noticed this in Japan with their criminals...and long prison sentences stopped it...

Japan’s gun control laws so strict the Yakuza turn to toy pistols



Ryo Fujiwara, long-time writer on yakuza affairs and author of the book, The Three Yamaguchi-Gumi, says that the punishment for using a gun in a gang war or in a crime is now so heavy that most yakuza avoid their use at all – unless it is for an assassination.

“In a hit, whoever fires the gun, or is made to take responsibility for firing the gun, has to pretty much be willing to go to jail for the rest of their life. That’s a big decision. The repercussions are big, too. No one wants to claim responsibility for such acts – the gang office might actually get shut-down.”

The gang typically also has to support the family of the hit-man while he is in prison, which is also a financial burden for the organization.

Japan’s Firearms and Swords Control Laws make it a crime to illegally possess a gun, with a punishment of jail time of up to 10 years.

Illegal possession more than one gun, the penalty goes up to 15 years in prison. If you own a gun and matching ammunition, that’s another charge and a heavier penalty. The most severe penalty is for the act of discharging a gun in a train, on a bus, or most public spaces, which can result in a life sentence.

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A low-ranking member of the Kobe-Yamaguchi-gumi put it this way: “All of the smart guys got rid of their guns a long-time ago. The penalties are way too high. You get life in prison if you just fire a gun. That’s not fun.”

Japan is a island full of pussies. That shit doesn't work here, people routinely get sent away for life, no parole, and shit keeps happening.