Guns are part of who we are as Americans

[Natural Citizen]

.Background checks are worthless.

Background checks are a violation of the 1st, 5th, and 10th Amendments.

 

[Brain357]

[ You realize strict gun laws would make the likelihood of a criminal pulling one on you much less right?

LOL! You mean like in Chicago? Those strict gun control laws are working mighty fine, aren't they?

December to Date

Shot & Killed: 12
Shot & Wounded: 50
Total Shot: 62
Total Homicides: 16


Week in Progress (12/2 – 12/8)

Shot & Killed: 10
Shot & Wounded: 43
Total Shot: 53
Total Homicides: 13

Year to Date

Shot & Killed: 474
Shot & Wounded: 2331
Total Shot: 2805
Total Homicides: 560

Chicago Crime 2018 | Chicago Murder, Crime & Mayhem | HeyJackass!

You should understand that Chicago doesn't have walls. They are surrounded by weak gun laws. City gun laws are very limited. Btw, they have concealed carry. Doesn't look like it is lowering crime does it?

We need federal gun laws and then we would have much lower homicide rates like the UK, Germany, France, Japan, Denmark....

You are really naive, aren't you? Either that or just plain stupid. You should understand that gun control laws do nothing to stop crime. Just like background checks do nothing to stop criminals from getting firearms.

My long time friend just retired as a Police Chief of one of the suburbs of Chicago. They don't have near as strict gun control laws as Chicago and they have very little gun crime. It is not the gun control laws that stop gun crimes. All gun control laws do is keep law abiding citizens from owning the guns they need to protect themselves from the assholes that don't obey the law.

If lack of gun control regulations causes gun crime then states like Wyoming would have the highest number of gun crimes because they have the most lax laws and a tremendous rate of gun ownership.

However, that is not the case is it? Most of the gun crime in the US takes place in the ghetto areas of the five or six biggest big city shitholes in the US by the same demographics that don't obey the drug laws or hardly any other laws.

You stupid Moon Bats don't have public safety as you agenda for doing away with the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Your agenda is to stop potential armed citizens from preventing you Left Wing assholes from ever making this country a socialist shithole that you desire so much. You know it and I know it.

Strange that our crime rates dropped after we got background checks. Strange that countries with strong gun control have homicide rates that are a fraction of ours. You seem to deny reality.

You are really confused, are you Moon Bat?

Gun crime rates have been on a steady decline for several decades now as have all crimes. This is at a time when gun ownership has grown tremendously.

Background checks are a joke. They sure as hell don't sop the massive number of shootings in the big city shitholes that happen on a daily basis, does it? They sure did stop the recent high profile shootings, did they? Those guys passed the background checks.

Violent Crime in U.S. Rises for Second Consecutive Year

 

[Brain357]

.Background checks are worthless.

Background checks are a violation of the 1st, 5th, and 10th Amendments.

Crime sure dropped after we got them.

 

[Flash]

Gun control laws are a joke.

Background checks are worthless.

Background checks are a violation of the 1st, 5th, and 10th Amendments.

Absolutely!

What good is a right that suppose to be guaranteed in the Bill of Rights if you have to get permission from the fucking government to enjoy?

It is not really a right then is it?

In addition to being absolutely worthless background checks to keep and bear arms robs us of our basic Liberty.

 

[Pilot1]

Background checks are a violation of the 1st, 5th, and 10th Amendments.

It is also an INFRINGEMENT, and a violation of the 2nd Amendment.

 

[Flash]

.Background checks are worthless.

Background checks are a violation of the 1st, 5th, and 10th Amendments.

Crime sure dropped after we got them.

If background checks work why didn't they stop the LV shooter, Orlando shooter, Texas church shooter and Parkland shooter? Why don't they stop the massive number of shootings in Chicago every day?

The reason is simple. They don't work. They are a joke. The people that do the shootings don't give a shit about passing a background check just like they don't abide by other gun control laws.

 

[Brain357]

.Background checks are worthless.

Background checks are a violation of the 1st, 5th, and 10th Amendments.

Crime sure dropped after we got them.

If background checks work why didn't they stop the LV shooter, Orlando shooter, Texas church shooter and Parkland shooter? Why don't they stop the massive number of shootings in Chicago every day?

The reason is simple. They don't work. They are a joke. The people that do the shootings don't give a shit about passing a background check just like they don't abide by other gun control laws.

Because we have extremely weak gun laws. Again, crime dropped rapidly after we got background checks.

 

[Brain357]

.Background checks are worthless.

Background checks are a violation of the 1st, 5th, and 10th Amendments.

Crime sure dropped after we got them.

If background checks work why didn't they stop the LV shooter, Orlando shooter, Texas church shooter and Parkland shooter? Why don't they stop the massive number of shootings in Chicago every day?

The reason is simple. They don't work. They are a joke. The people that do the shootings don't give a shit about passing a background check just like they don't abide by other gun control laws.

Why is it countries with strong gun control don't suffer through regular mass shootings? Why is it their police aren't regularly shot?

 

[Doc7505]

That, in my opinion is why the de-nationalizing hordes are so interested in grabbing them.

From the picture of the rugged mountain man eeking out an existence in the Rocky mountains in the 1850s to the statuary images of the greatest generation dressed for combat the gun has become not just a tool for self-defense and the establishment of Independence it has also become an irrevocable symbol of the American Spirit.

Americans unlike their European predecessors didn't wait didn't wait to be subdued before they declared their independence they took it up front.

That makes the American profile unique among cultural profiles... It's also makes the pure American spirit particularly hated by the dominating nature of the Global elites who see any form of Independence as an impediment to their one world agenda.

Jo

Here's hoping that the American profile remains strong and present for a long time to come. However, there are Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats like Rep. Swalwell proposing total confiscation of firearms and killing resisters in wholesale lots. See:

Is the Left willing to DIE to take away our guns?
Is the Left willing to DIE to take away our guns?

 

[Wyatt earp]

.Background checks are worthless.

Background checks are a violation of the 1st, 5th, and 10th Amendments.

Crime sure dropped after we got them.

If background checks work why didn't they stop the LV shooter, Orlando shooter, Texas church shooter and Parkland shooter? Why don't they stop the massive number of shootings in Chicago every day?

The reason is simple. They don't work. They are a joke. The people that do the shootings don't give a shit about passing a background check just like they don't abide by other gun control laws.

Why is it countries with strong gun control don't suffer through regular mass shootings? Why is it their police aren't regularly shot?

Go move there, you obviously hate the Constitution and America

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[Natural Citizen]

Crime sure dropped after we got them.

There are times on the forum I agree with your thoughts on things. This simply isn't one of those times, Brain.

Debate the other guys, my friend. You will not win against me. Not with this topic. Don't even try. It's a waste of your time. And mine. I don't feel like debating anyway, I simply recalled some relevant reading and shared it in the thread.

 

[Polishprince]

.Background checks are worthless.

Background checks are a violation of the 1st, 5th, and 10th Amendments.

Crime sure dropped after we got them.

If background checks work why didn't they stop the LV shooter, Orlando shooter, Texas church shooter and Parkland shooter? Why don't they stop the massive number of shootings in Chicago every day?

The reason is simple. They don't work. They are a joke. The people that do the shootings don't give a shit about passing a background check just like they don't abide by other gun control laws.

Because we have extremely weak gun laws. Again, crime dropped rapidly after we got background checks.

Actually shootings are high in Liberal cities with Draconian gun control, like Chicago.

 

[Brain357]

.Background checks are worthless.

Background checks are a violation of the 1st, 5th, and 10th Amendments.

Crime sure dropped after we got them.

If background checks work why didn't they stop the LV shooter, Orlando shooter, Texas church shooter and Parkland shooter? Why don't they stop the massive number of shootings in Chicago every day?

The reason is simple. They don't work. They are a joke. The people that do the shootings don't give a shit about passing a background check just like they don't abide by other gun control laws.

Why is it countries with strong gun control don't suffer through regular mass shootings? Why is it their police aren't regularly shot?

Go move there, you obviously hate the Constitution and America

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So you have no real arguments.

 

[Brain357]

.Background checks are worthless.

Background checks are a violation of the 1st, 5th, and 10th Amendments.

Crime sure dropped after we got them.

If background checks work why didn't they stop the LV shooter, Orlando shooter, Texas church shooter and Parkland shooter? Why don't they stop the massive number of shootings in Chicago every day?

The reason is simple. They don't work. They are a joke. The people that do the shootings don't give a shit about passing a background check just like they don't abide by other gun control laws.

Because we have extremely weak gun laws. Again, crime dropped rapidly after we got background checks.

Actually shootings are high in Liberal cities with Draconian gun control, like Chicago.

And how strong are Chicago gun laws really? You are aware they have concealed carry? That is Draconian? You are aware they don't have walls and are surrounded by weak gun laws? City gun laws are always going to be weak as long as people can easily come and go.

Citing Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives data — which shows that approximately 60% of guns used in crimes across Illinois came from out of state — the Trace built an infographic demonstrating just how many guns flow into the city from states with less restrictive gun laws.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Background checks are a violation of the 1st, 5th, and 10th Amendments.

Crime sure dropped after we got them.

If background checks work why didn't they stop the LV shooter, Orlando shooter, Texas church shooter and Parkland shooter? Why don't they stop the massive number of shootings in Chicago every day?

The reason is simple. They don't work. They are a joke. The people that do the shootings don't give a shit about passing a background check just like they don't abide by other gun control laws.

Why is it countries with strong gun control don't suffer through regular mass shootings? Why is it their police aren't regularly shot?

Go move there, you obviously hate the Constitution and America

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So you have no real arguments.

Yes that's what people say when losing an argument, we have laws in this country and the 2nd is one of them, you just refuse to want to address the real issue.

 

[Anathema]

Why is it countries with strong gun control don't suffer through regular mass shootings? Why is it their police aren't regularly shot?

Most of those countries are populated with people who have never had a right to own a weapon of any type, never mind firearms. They live in Societies where they’ve been shaved to their rulers for more than a thousand years.

On the other hand, America was carved out of the wilderness, founded and tamed by men with guns, axes, knives and other deadly tools gun ownership and self-Defense were and still integral parts of American society. There will always be a limited downside to that as well as the significant upside.

 

[Brain357]

Crime sure dropped after we got them.

If background checks work why didn't they stop the LV shooter, Orlando shooter, Texas church shooter and Parkland shooter? Why don't they stop the massive number of shootings in Chicago every day?

The reason is simple. They don't work. They are a joke. The people that do the shootings don't give a shit about passing a background check just like they don't abide by other gun control laws.

Why is it countries with strong gun control don't suffer through regular mass shootings? Why is it their police aren't regularly shot?

Go move there, you obviously hate the Constitution and America

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So you have no real arguments.

Yes that's what people say when losing an argument, we have laws in this country and the 2nd is one of them, you just refuse to want to address the real issue.

We have really weak laws in this country.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Background checks are a violation of the 1st, 5th, and 10th Amendments.

Crime sure dropped after we got them.

If background checks work why didn't they stop the LV shooter, Orlando shooter, Texas church shooter and Parkland shooter? Why don't they stop the massive number of shootings in Chicago every day?

The reason is simple. They don't work. They are a joke. The people that do the shootings don't give a shit about passing a background check just like they don't abide by other gun control laws.

Because we have extremely weak gun laws. Again, crime dropped rapidly after we got background checks.

Actually shootings are high in Liberal cities with Draconian gun control, like Chicago.

And how strong are Chicago gun laws really? You are aware they have concealed carry? That is Draconian? You are aware they don't have walls and are surrounded by weak gun laws? City gun laws are always going to be weak as long as people can easily come and go.

Citing Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives data — which shows that approximately 60% of guns used in crimes across Illinois came from out of state — the Trace built an infographic demonstrating just how many guns flow into the city from states with less restrictive gun laws.

Guns where banned in chicago for years and it didn't do a damn thing.


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[Wyatt earp]

If background checks work why didn't they stop the LV shooter, Orlando shooter, Texas church shooter and Parkland shooter? Why don't they stop the massive number of shootings in Chicago every day?

The reason is simple. They don't work. They are a joke. The people that do the shootings don't give a shit about passing a background check just like they don't abide by other gun control laws.

Why is it countries with strong gun control don't suffer through regular mass shootings? Why is it their police aren't regularly shot?

Go move there, you obviously hate the Constitution and America

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So you have no real arguments.

Yes that's what people say when losing an argument, we have laws in this country and the 2nd is one of them, you just refuse to want to address the real issue.

We have really weak laws in this country.

Because we are a free country

 

[Brain357]

Crime sure dropped after we got them.

If background checks work why didn't they stop the LV shooter, Orlando shooter, Texas church shooter and Parkland shooter? Why don't they stop the massive number of shootings in Chicago every day?

The reason is simple. They don't work. They are a joke. The people that do the shootings don't give a shit about passing a background check just like they don't abide by other gun control laws.

Because we have extremely weak gun laws. Again, crime dropped rapidly after we got background checks.

Actually shootings are high in Liberal cities with Draconian gun control, like Chicago.

And how strong are Chicago gun laws really? You are aware they have concealed carry? That is Draconian? You are aware they don't have walls and are surrounded by weak gun laws? City gun laws are always going to be weak as long as people can easily come and go.

Citing Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives data — which shows that approximately 60% of guns used in crimes across Illinois came from out of state — the Trace built an infographic demonstrating just how many guns flow into the city from states with less restrictive gun laws.

Guns where banned in chicago for years and it didn't do a damn thing.


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Does it have walls? Are people who come and go searched? City gun laws are inherently weak...