Has Fergussun Proved the Futility of Ending Racism?

[JimBowie1958]

[No matter what whites do the libtards will never stop accusing us of being the most vile racists on the planet. They are like the person who you felt you once wronged somehow and they keep playing you, telling you that you haven't yet convinced them that you are truly sorry. Eventually you have to just say fuck you and walk off.

Fuck them, and this is me walking off.

Why would we ever stop accusing you when you express racism like all of you have in this thread. You are admitting you're racists.

The odd thing about this accusation is that you put a lot of emphasis on expressed preferences - you're interpreting what people say and you're completely ignoring the revealed preferences, how people actually live.

Look at liberal whiteopias like Vermont and Portaland, OR. These folks love their liberalism and love chanting about how much they value multiculturalism and where do they live, in the Deep South where they could fully appreciate multiculturalism? No, they reveal their preferences as being anti-multiculturalism.

But they still deserve equal treatment under the law, and a hand up to help them better their circsumtances, and time, and opportunity, and empathy.

They deserve equal treatment under the law. Period. End of story. If you want to sell your car and give the proceeds to random black people, I promise I won't stop you, but I'm under no moral obligation to do the same.

I'm willing to believe that black people have as much potential to succeed and give back as any white person.

And people can believe that the moon is made of green cheese. Is the evidence we've accumulated over the centuries supporting your belief? No, it's not.

OK, so do you think that with Obama having six full years in office so far, this inexposure you seem to attribute to liberal naivete would be nullified, would it not?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Racism-Racialism won't end until politicians and special interest groups stop promoting it and the Federal Government stops subsidizing it. Take away the profit, and the promotions will subside.

"racism", as I've said, is a natural and normal affinity for ones own people. It's part of benig human and it will never end....and why should it? Why is it "wrong" to express preference for your own kind over others? Anti whites co opted the word and made it seem "bad" for white people to prefer your own race and culture..

Some people will have a harder time shaking off 50 years of indoctrination and being taught that negroes are just like us except with darker skin.
The ones who have to live near them and interact with them are mostly awake and aware already.

Agreed with all that, but do you agree that blacks have a right to be treated equally before the law?

Do you believe that blacks should not be targeted by their racial identity by legal code?

Racism-Racialism won't end until politicians and special interest groups stop promoting it and the Federal Government stops subsidizing it. Take away the profit, and the promotions will subside.

"racism", as I've said, is a natural and normal affinity for ones own people. It's part of benig human and it will never end....and why should it? Why is it "wrong" to express preference for your own kind over others? Anti whites co opted the word and made it seem "bad" for white people to prefer your own race and culture..

Some people will have a harder time shaking off 50 years of indoctrination and being taught that negroes are just like us except with darker skin.
The ones who have to live near them and interact with them are mostly awake and aware already.

Agreed with all that, but do you agree that blacks have a right to be treated equally before the law?

Do you believe that blacks should not be targeted by their racial identity by legal code?

This format is confusing when replying sometimes..Are you talkingspecifically to me? I don't know but I'll answer.

1. Of course negroes should be treated fairly and equally before the law.

2. I don't know of any law that specifies blacks should be targeted.

I WILL say THIS;

As negroes commit over HALF of ALL violent crime in the u.s. despite only being 13% of the population, when they get scrutinized more closely no one should be surprised.

Hell, if midget eskimo men committed HALF of ALL violent crime in america I would expect they would be looked at a little closer, too. It's called common sense.

Yes, the questions were directed at you and you answered them well.

So you point out these statistical issue with the black community; so what are you proposing as a response to them?

Separation.
Nothing else has worked and they hate us as much or more than ever in history.

They should have their own area to live in and run as they see fit...since we're so evil and deadly, you'd think they'd jump at the chance. Complete autonomy free of all white people.

They can tax/spend/award benefits and entitlements to each other however they see fit. There would be no "racism" or "discrimination" or white people "keeping them down".

On the other hand imagine a nation without them;

Imagine how good the schools would be.
Imagine how clean and safe the cities would be.
Imagine how empty the prisons would be.
Imagine how much we could advance without the economic drag they impose on the system with section8 ebt, welfare, and all the other government programs aimed specifically at "advancing" them.

I sincerely and heartily wish we had just picked our own damn cotton instead of importing them to use as farm animals.
Slavery was the WORST mistake this nation ever made. 500 years from now historians will shake their heads and wonder why we imported and then FINANCED (with our own tax dollars) the very people who worked to take the nation down.

So you want segregation that is purely voluntary or decreed by the government?

Now I'm totally GROKKING why the Hegemony originally set up the new board without Nested Quotes.

Just sayin'.

Yeah, I like it as well. was getting tired of seeing relevant comments dropped by the editor.

 

[Rotagilla]

Some interesting points in this thread that gave me pause for thought.

That said, I am still in denial that it can all boil down to something so simple as a genetically processed adaptation to physical surroundings.

So simple? I counter with so complex and and all-encompassing. The power of our genes in forming our social world and even our outlook is pretty significant. I'd never dismiss that influence as being something simple.

Maybe I'm not understanding you.

I believe you did. While ones race is genetically distinguishable, racial groups are not, in fact, biologically different in significant ways. The level of melanin in ones skin cells has about as much relevance upon cultural behavior as their blood type being type A, B, or O.

While I can agree that the genetic/chemical makeup of an individual is significant to that particular individual's behavior, I do not agree that the level of melanin has significant impact upon an individual's genetic/chemical make up. Ergo, the level of melanin in ones skin has no significant impact.

As a reasonable intellectual I can vote with a desire for equality, I believe it is right, and therefore I could argue that giving an advantage to minorities levels the playing field. (If only it had worked that way.)

Which equality are you speaking of, of opportunity or of outcome? Creating a society of equal opportunity doesn't solve any problems for those on the losing end are still just as bitter as if they were denied opportunity and perhaps even more bitter because if opportunity is denied they can find psychological refuge in the believe that they would be on top of the world but for denied opportunity but when that pretty little lie is blown to smithereens, how to explain failure? The bitterness at the unjustness of unequal outcomes is still present and perhaps elevated.

I was speaking specifically on the political advantage of forwarding a 'race card' agenda - because it appeals to a larger majority of people, rather than only the minority.

That said, if, by your argument, offering equal opportunity creates further bitterness because of a perceived failure of equal opportunity, then it would support my overall argument that such racial bitterness is a learned behavior and not based upon any genetic/chemical hallmark that determines ones race.

I would further argue that failure to succeed on any level is NOT reserved only for minorities, there are millions of white American's who have 'failed to succeed' the difference is that these white failures, in the past and in general, are not taught that it is because of the color of their skin, but rather they are taught that they need to try harder. This does not seem to be the case on the other side of the color spectrum, they are in fact, taught the opposite.

That said, the temperance of the condition of natural 'misbehavior' has always been one's social culture.

Social culture is not some independent variable draped over people. It is the product of groups of people and at the foundation of social culture is biology, so to the extent that biology differs so too will social culture.

I disagree that it is a biological difference - see my first point.

Race has only a minor part in the overreaching modern culture of America, it is only the ostensible use of the race card in American history that lends credence to an argument that race is the basis of minority 'failure.'

Race in not only a minor part of American culture, it is the dominant factor shaping American culture. It's effects reach far and wide even when there is no apparent racial contribution. For instance, the drive to higher education and the resultant credentialism in the employment market has its roots in Civil Rights litigation - employment exams resulted in too many blacks failing and so the Supreme Court made them illegal. Employers need a way to judge the intellect of applicants and college degrees became a proxy measure. Employers are NOT using the skills an employee learned in a Woman's Studies class or in a History of the Civil War class. People are wasting years of their lives and spending house downpayments in order to earn a credential when a simple 90 minute employment exam would actually better predict job performance. All of this is unnecessary but has arisen due to racial politics in American society.

If America had followed a different path with regards to slavery, repatriation of slaves and multiculturalism, it would be vastly different than what we see today.

You've taken my encompassing argument and used to it apply to a specific issue.

Ultimately, though it appears you agree with me, "...it is only the ostensible [aka plausible] use of the race card in American history that lends credence [belief] to an argument that race is the basis of minority 'failure' [in MODERN America]" ~ Ergo, my over all opinion that there is little coherent tribal argument in modern America for racism, except that which has been forwarded on political advantage and has been thusly taught to modern American's.

To address your specific points; yes, I also believe that if America had followed a different path, things would be different. However a discussion in depth of where we went wrong, is nothing more than a long-winded side track to my opinion on the OP's question ~ that I believe racism is a taught culture rather than "human nature" as the OP and others have argued.

Presently, when I review a resume I cannot know the color of the prospective employee, I can only go by what is writ in their resume. To proclaim that I am a racist because I chose an employee "based upon their color" is therefore a lie. Arguing that it was the color of the skin that influenced my hiring decision is utter bullshit and merely a facetious use of the 'race card' steeped in history ~ to even remotely make that connection I would have to have knowledge of the skin color which implies that I in fact accepted the potential hire's resume as a "qualified" candidate and then determined in interview that because they were black I chose someone else. This is a bias falsity forwarded by political agenda, not actual reality.

Actual reality says that a business will, in fact, hire the most qualified person for their particular opening, period. To forward that argument, if your black potential hire comes into an interview with an apparent chip on their shoulder toward whites, then they are not likely to get hired because they are less likely to integrate with their co-workers. That is to say, despite the fact that their resume showed them to be "qualified" for the position, their personality precluded their hire. It is not, however, exclusively a racism issue, a case in point:

I have personally been passed up for a position because they felt my confidence and intelligence would be perceived as arrogance by co-workers and cause conflict. Now, I 'could' claim that the underlying reason I was not hired was due to a bias against intelligence OR I can accept that I was not hired because the employer felt I was not a good fit for the position. My particular upbringing leans toward the latter. In the case of the black potential hire, their upbringing oft ignores other plausible issues, and proclaims it must be racism.

Briefly;
There ARE biological differences and there are race specific diseases. Look it up.

There are also physical differences. An anthropologist can tell the race of a skeleton by measuring/examining bone structure.

There are mental differences. The average negro IQ in america is around 85 mostly due to an admixture of white genes that they have.. because the average sub saharan african IQ is around 70...(which would be considered mildly retarded in america.)

The average caucasian IQ is 1 standard deviation (15 points) higher at 100...and the average asian IQ is around 110 if I remember correctly.....

but don't trust me..Look these facts up yourself.

 

[Rikurzhen]

For the past 50 years since the fight for the Civil Rights Act in 65, we have tried to end racism in this country.
And what do we have to show for it? Annual riots by minorities demanding more, angry about imagined slights like the totally justified shooting of Michael Brown, and now Eric Holder, supposedly our nations top Law Enforcement official goes to these criminals in Fergusun and tells them he shares their distrust of law enforcement? This is beyond stupidity and absurdity as Holder throws out any pretense of being anything other than a black AG.

The 800 pound gorilla in the room is the simple question; Has our attempt to end racism been a failure?

All we have to show for it is that whites cannot defend themselves, even if being beaten to death, if the perp is a black man. Even if you have all the law and God on your side, the establishment will ruin your life and the legal fees impoverish you and your family. Whites cannot talk about their interests, celebrate their heroes or talk about white culture or show pride in being white. All the while being surrounded by black radio stations, black news papers, black entertainment, and every other ethnic group has its own version of it all as well.

Now if this were a universal standard for all ethnicities then something might be established that is at least fair and just to all parties, but no, all minorities are encouraged to take racial pride, show racial UNITY (WTF?) and even conservative blacks like Colin Powell knows he has to vote for the black man Obama or be branded a race traitor for ever more. Even a supposed conservative like Bill O'Reilly went on a rant about some kids in Georgia a few years ago who did nothing more than have a private graduation celebration and he branded it a 'whites only prom' and the hatred that was directed at these white students from all over the country was simply disgusting, assinine and cretinous. And yet no one ever dared to point out and criticize the many ethnic centered graduations and proms that go on every year by hispanics, asians and blacks. That is all OK, only whites are forbidden to have such, and in our own god damned country.

All our effort to end racism has done is turn white people into punching bags, eternal victims and fucking epic losers. Show me another civilization aside from Western civilization where an ethnic group has abandoned all rights to defend itself even within its own borders. That is what we have come to, an impotent, group of ethnic losers who nature will erase if something does not change.

Would we be justified to look at what is considered justified ethnic pride/practice among minority populations and take the same tacks for ourselves? It seems that way

Enough is enough, fuck it. The effort to end racism is nothing more than a fools game with whites meant to be the eternal losers.

I once was proud to think I was not a racist, now I feel like I have been played for a sucker. Where do the facts show that feeling wrong?

It will only change when both blacks and whites realize that both are to blame. Many blacks need to do more to improve their own situation, and whites need to understand that blacks are still discriminated against daily.

That's all well and good but what happens if equality of outcome can never be realized? There will always be discontent in any group who is losing a contest. This is why liberals are so keen on giving participation trophies to losing sports teams, to ease some of the sting from losing. Good intentions don't matter if the outcome is not fair, where fair is not defined as equal opportunity but as equal outcomes.

But in general society, economics or other competitive endeavors, how does one achieve equality of outcome without tyranny?

Exactly. There's a reason that libertarianism has little appeal to minority communities and to women.

Of Democracy, Free Markets and Multiculturalism - pick two because all thee lead to explosive outcomes.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I don't think it's even possible to actually end racism. I think rather it's one of those things where the attempt is what's admirable. But as long as people look different for various reasons including ethnicty, there will always be those who use those differences to claim superiority. Like the Dr. Seuss story about the things with stars on their bellies and those without. Even if it isn't a matter of white or black, it'll be about some sort of difference.

This "superiority" thing is way overblown and being used as a weapon to disparage people who acknowledge differences in the races.. I do not know one single person who ever said that all white people are better than all black people.

There are negroes (and asians) who have talents, abilities, "superior" to mine...and vice versa.
I have skills, talents, abilities superior to others..big deal.

There is nothing in nature that is "equal". Nothing. Nowhere.

"Equality" is an artificial and contrived human concept.
I agree with equal opportunity but differences in "equality" of outcome does not automatically mean that they are the result of racial differences in the equality of opportunity

.

The old broadside was that white civlization was superior to black or Asian civilization and this due to inate superiority of whites in building civilizations.

And yet we have seen Egypt, Aksum, the Ming and Qing all quite advanced ahead of white civilizations for their time.

Too often people just believe whatever they want to believe. Truth be damned.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Racism is a natural human trait. All races have this trait...Rather, you go to africa and deal with Mugebe saying NO whites can own land or Japan.

All we whites are doing is giving up our future to another majority.

It does seem that way. Outside of a western college environment, I have never heard an Asian or Hispanic say that a comment was racist and thus censored. They all think it a funny little hang up of whites, unless a white liberal is around then it's 'oh, yeah, we need to address this injustice, blah, blah, blah.'

 

[Rikurzhen]

[No matter what whites do the libtards will never stop accusing us of being the most vile racists on the planet. They are like the person who you felt you once wronged somehow and they keep playing you, telling you that you haven't yet convinced them that you are truly sorry. Eventually you have to just say fuck you and walk off.

Fuck them, and this is me walking off.

Why would we ever stop accusing you when you express racism like all of you have in this thread. You are admitting you're racists.

The odd thing about this accusation is that you put a lot of emphasis on expressed preferences - you're interpreting what people say and you're completely ignoring the revealed preferences, how people actually live.

Look at liberal whiteopias like Vermont and Portaland, OR. These folks love their liberalism and love chanting about how much they value multiculturalism and where do they live, in the Deep South where they could fully appreciate multiculturalism? No, they reveal their preferences as being anti-multiculturalism.

But they still deserve equal treatment under the law, and a hand up to help them better their circsumtances, and time, and opportunity, and empathy.

They deserve equal treatment under the law. Period. End of story. If you want to sell your car and give the proceeds to random black people, I promise I won't stop you, but I'm under no moral obligation to do the same.

I'm willing to believe that black people have as much potential to succeed and give back as any white person.

And people can believe that the moon is made of green cheese. Is the evidence we've accumulated over the centuries supporting your belief? No, it's not.

OK, so do you think that with Obama having six full years in office so far, this inexposure you seem to attribute to liberal naivete would be nullified, would it not?

Evidence and reason don't motivate liberals. They're motivated by emotion. So long as they can believe themselves to be the most enlightened of creatures they'll go along with anything that enhances their self-image. Look at how damn obnoxious Portland liberals are. Going on and on about how they love multiculturalism and ignoring that they live in the whitest city in America. If they really believed that multiculturalism was so great they've be forming a groovy caravan and decamping Portland for Detroit. The evidence of their hypocrisy just doesn't process in their brains, what processes are their declarations on how much they love multiculturalism.

Think of what liberals do as the reputational version of conspicuous consumption behaviors seen in social groups where displays of wealth are used to enhance one's reputation amongst peers. With liberals, it's not the materialism which is the currency, it's the pontifications - who can be more holier than thou in terms of liberal enlightenment. This game is far cheaper too. With conspicuous consumption games you actually had to have skin in the game, you had to spend money to appear well-off. With reputational conspicuous consumption all the liberal is investing is blowharding - it doesn't cost anything and you don't even have to LIVE TRUE TO YOUR PRINCIPLES, all that counts is that you say the "correct" things in front of your peers and you gain reputation points for being an enlightened liberal.

 

[Rotagilla]

Douche.

Look, I'm not interested in your personal hygiene routines and I doubt anyone else really is either.. You can keep that to yourself, Ok?

Are you a person with a prejudiced belief that any one race is superior to any other race?

No.
Not a "prejudiced belief" (whatever THAT is) or even a "regular" belief...so no..I'm not a "racist".

Any more questions?

Nope. I don't believe you

Well, I'm just crushed. I only hope I can recover and move on with my life with no permanent damage.

.....but it doesn't matter.

You are correct.

That is what a racist is. It is learned.

No it isn't.

Period.

Ampersand

Funny how unwarranted assertions can be rebutted by use of counter unwarranted assertions, lolol.

Yeah..he thinks he's real clever.

He's wrong about that, too.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Will the white people of Ferguson ever forgive the black people of Ferguson? Will the business people? History says no. Majority black Ferguson will be all black Ferguson in months if not weeks. It will become a business desert as the affected stores don't reopen. They will take their insurance money and leave the burned out hulk of that little American dream.

Which will play right into the hands of the libtard narrative how racist white Americans don't trust blacks due to racial prejudice and wont give blacks a chance.

At this point who cares what negroes (or liberals) "think"?
We are targets to them. Conduct yourself accordingly.
You doubt it? ....then immediately move to (or even walk through) whichever negro section 8 housing project closest to you.
You will get to see "diversity" and "multiculturalism" up close and personal.

If you survive, I suspect you will gain a VASTLY different perception.

I hate to say it, but I feel deep down that you are right. No matter what whites do the libtards will never stop accusing us of being the most vile racists on the planet. They are like the person who you felt you once wronged somehow and they keep playing you, telling you that you haven't yet convinced them that you are truly sorry. Eventually you have to just say fuck you and walk off.

Fuck them, and this is me walking off.

Who the hell cares what the "libtards" say/think? ..and for christs sake WHY would you?
Like I said..the more these people act up and push, the more it wakes up white people and forces them to abandon the indoctrination and start thinking about OUR interests and well being instead of all the hand wringing about the poor negro and what he wants and what "offends" him...Let it go. It was a failure. It hasn't worked and it's not going to get any better.

The anti white "libtards" will be very surprised and dismayed when the "protected class" they've nurtured and coddled for the past 50 years turns on them. I hope they get everything they deserve.

So you want to see more Fergusun type events to more quickly 'awaken' whites?

I don't think you will like what the result of that would be. The elites would dominate again but by reverting to their pedigree and wealth. You and I and other working class whites will be described as genetically mixed, mud people by these same elites that push PC bullshit on us ever day today.

Are you pure blooded white? If not, then you will eventually be looked down upon also.

I just want the government to stop presuming ANYTHING about me or anyone else just because of race or job, whether I am a black loiter or a white cop defending myself.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Jesus Still Saves On MLK?
This story that I’ll try to rhyme,
Did truly happen to me one time.
It had been years since last in the saddle,
But how I could still make the suspension rattle.
Speeding down Broadway on my uptown boogey,
Dropped the window and hocked a loogey.
Back in the hood were I broke my “cherry”,
The thrill and fear of those years still make me merry.
He was tired of the cube, even with a view,
Upon the carpet only his chair flew.
It was the contact of “real” people it seemed he missed,
Even if at times they did make him pissed.
Flying a box always in a race,
Cause after dark I didn’t want my face.
To be in this hood where I felt hated,
I did my best not to be so jaded.
Too many was I just a honky without touching the horn,
So often the target of their scorn.
I tried my best to judge individually,
Could only hope they’d do the same for me.
So I found the only open spot,
Around here you take it illegal or not.
I did not return any of the hardened glares,
Brushed through the crowd concealing my cares.
At least to the best of my ability,
I often did this by faking tranquility.
Finally made contact with the store’s keeper,
Jumping on the tailgate I dropped my beeper.
A pallet tipped to much and boxes flew to the ground,
It seemed more people were gathering round.
As if to see how whitey works,
My mishap just confirming we all must be jerks.
Finishing up I had the papers signed,
I had to move that truck or risk getting fined.
Shielded from traffic in front of the cab,
Waiting for it’s break before the door could I grab.
Just around then I saw my second shadow appear,
One look in his eyes and I almost did fear.
You see I’ve been around and am not weak,
But compared to this guy my 230 frame seemed meek.
I think he could have played pro ball,
But was sure he could definately pro brawl.
I could see he had a P.H.D. from the school of hard knocks,
But yet I did not quake in my socks.
Knowing he wasn’t standing in the street for his health,
I presumed he must be after my wealth.
So just before things seemed bout to go down,
I heard “Jesus saves, mother fuckers!” yelled and looked around.
One eye on the shadow and one searching for the preacher,
I thought of the words and ways of our teacher.
Then as a vision I saw them then,
Two men in blue that had just round the bend.
It was instantly apparent the “lunatic street preacher” that did shout,
Was nothing more then the perps look out.
So with a look like I’d just been saved
Was the perp’s expression he had gave.
As my second shadow walked away,
I almost told him to have a nice day.
But just like that messiah long ago,
Those men in blue standing for justice did two sow.
Maybe it was wrong for me to presume?
That in these men’s hearts for me was no room.
Either way, whether the “street preacher” knew or meant it not,
The truth was what he spoke on that spot.
Jesus loved us so much his life he had gave
So even this {M.F.keR?} his name could save.
I apologize to all for the profanity
But that’s the way it happened that I did see.

Always be armed. There is no reason to ever be without a weapon or close to something you can make into a weapon.

 

[Rotagilla]

I don't think it's even possible to actually end racism. I think rather it's one of those things where the attempt is what's admirable. But as long as people look different for various reasons including ethnicty, there will always be those who use those differences to claim superiority. Like the Dr. Seuss story about the things with stars on their bellies and those without. Even if it isn't a matter of white or black, it'll be about some sort of difference.

This "superiority" thing is way overblown and being used as a weapon to disparage people who acknowledge differences in the races.. I do not know one single person who ever said that all white people are better than all black people.

There are negroes (and asians) who have talents, abilities, "superior" to mine...and vice versa.
I have skills, talents, abilities superior to others..big deal.

There is nothing in nature that is "equal". Nothing. Nowhere.

"Equality" is an artificial and contrived human concept.
I agree with equal opportunity but differences in "equality" of outcome does not automatically mean that they are the result of racial differences in the equality of opportunity

.

The old broadside was that white civlization was superior to black or Asian civilization and this due to inate superiority of whites in building civilizations.

And yet we have seen Egypt, Aksum, the Ming and Qing all quite advanced ahead of white civilizations for their time.

Too often people just believe whatever they want to believe. Truth be damned.

Well, in the modern world whites are unrivalled in advancing society through inventions and creating and SUSTAINING civilizations.

 

[Rotagilla]

Will the white people of Ferguson ever forgive the black people of Ferguson? Will the business people? History says no. Majority black Ferguson will be all black Ferguson in months if not weeks. It will become a business desert as the affected stores don't reopen. They will take their insurance money and leave the burned out hulk of that little American dream.

Which will play right into the hands of the libtard narrative how racist white Americans don't trust blacks due to racial prejudice and wont give blacks a chance.

At this point who cares what negroes (or liberals) "think"?
We are targets to them. Conduct yourself accordingly.
You doubt it? ....then immediately move to (or even walk through) whichever negro section 8 housing project closest to you.
You will get to see "diversity" and "multiculturalism" up close and personal.

If you survive, I suspect you will gain a VASTLY different perception.

I hate to say it, but I feel deep down that you are right. No matter what whites do the libtards will never stop accusing us of being the most vile racists on the planet. They are like the person who you felt you once wronged somehow and they keep playing you, telling you that you haven't yet convinced them that you are truly sorry. Eventually you have to just say fuck you and walk off.

Fuck them, and this is me walking off.

Who the hell cares what the "libtards" say/think? ..and for christs sake WHY would you?
Like I said..the more these people act up and push, the more it wakes up white people and forces them to abandon the indoctrination and start thinking about OUR interests and well being instead of all the hand wringing about the poor negro and what he wants and what "offends" him...Let it go. It was a failure. It hasn't worked and it's not going to get any better.

The anti white "libtards" will be very surprised and dismayed when the "protected class" they've nurtured and coddled for the past 50 years turns on them. I hope they get everything they deserve.

So you want to see more Fergusun type events to more quickly 'awaken' whites?

I don't think you will like what the result of that would be. The elites would dominate again but by reverting to their pedigree and wealth. You and I and other working class whites will be described as genetically mixed, mud people by these same elites that push PC bullshit on us ever day today.

Are you pure blooded white? If not, then you will eventually be looked down upon also.

I just want the government to stop presuming ANYTHING about me or anyone else just because of race or job, whether I am a black loiter or a white cop defending myself.

Collapse, partitioning and reconstruction.

 

[Unkotare]

putting words in my mouth for the win, eh?

Not at all. Reading your own words.

So do you think whites have a right to equal protection before the law? Do you think whites have the right to due process? Do whites have the right to free speech?.

Obviously 'they' do, and those laws are exercised everyday all across this great land. Stop being such a drama queen. Trying to play the victim is not a winning approach. You only make yourself look silly.

 

[EverCurious]

Rather than quote everything and make another pyramid…

Yes, there are gene related differences; a predisposal to certain diseases and the like - but those exist in other 'white' races as well. Blacks are more susceptible to diabetes, I am also genetically prone to diabetes, however that has no substantial effect on my ability to succeed in life, nor does it substantially effect a black person’s ability to succeed. The majority of the other diseases that blacks are more susceptible to are just as common in other races; lung cancer, strokes, high blood pressure, and asthma. In addition ‘most’ of this is actually lifestyle based, more so than genetics; obesity mostly, which ALL Americans suffer from.

Intelligence on the other hand is part of a learned culture, and this is even truer in the case of IQ tests. It’s why the Japanese out smart American's on average, their culture is heavily honor based and thus they put forth more effort. By the same token a black OR white raised in a 'it’s okay to fail' culture is not likely to be smart as someone raised by professors, scientists, and other similarly intellectual career fields. A culture of intellectuals, thereby increases all parties’ intelligence merely through daily interaction - aka it is a learned social culture trait, not a skin pigmentation trait.

In addition IQ tests are weighted to a specific societal concept of ‘intelligence’ when in fact the concept of ‘intelligence’ is culturally variable. Per your example of sub Saharan Africans, if you were to test them on (out of left field examples because I honestly don’t know much of that particular culture) tribal relationships and finding water, they would likely score far, far higher than an American would. By the same token, if you tested on a parameter of effective drug sales, drug dealers would score higher. Etc. My point is that an IQ test is not racial, its cultural.

As an additional point of fact, one can, at any point in their life, increase their IQ with mental training, regardless of race.

 

[JimBowie1958]

putting words in my mouth for the win, eh?

Not at all. Reading your own words.

So do you think whites have a right to equal protection before the law? Do you think whites have the right to due process? Do whites have the right to free speech?.

Obviously 'they' do, and those laws are exercised everyday all across this great land.

But not for whites in Fergusun. Don't they count? IS it OK to take away the rights of a group of people in one place if you allow those rights in other places?

Stop being such a drama queen. Trying to play the victim is not a winning approach.

Did I say I was the victim? You need to learn how to respond to peoples questions without making accusations, or at least make accurate ones.

You only make yourself look silly.

Silly? It is silly to demand your rights and advance your collective interests?

You are being fucking stupid, here, dude. If every other group but yours is organized to get into the political system and fight for what they want, and the system totally accommodates such group competition, if you do not get YOUR group to organize and fight for your groups share as well, the you lose.

I would rather be considered silly by losers like you than stand by and just watch other people of my group, whatever it is, to continue getting FUCKED with the tacit approval of idiots like you who are too afraid of acting silly?

Are you white? IF not that totally explains your response.

 

[Unkotare]

putting words in my mouth for the win, eh?

Not at all. Reading your own words.

So do you think whites have a right to equal protection before the law? Do you think whites have the right to due process? Do whites have the right to free speech?.

Obviously 'they' do, and those laws are exercised everyday all across this great land.

But not for whites in Fergusun.

Yes, there too, drama-queen.

 

[Unkotare]

Did I say I was the victim?

Don't be disingenuous, everything you've posted in this thread has been the pathetic whining of victimhood.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Rather than quote everything and make another pyramid…

Yes, there are gene related differences; a predisposal to certain diseases and the like - but those exist in other 'white' races as well. Blacks are more susceptible to diabetes, I am also genetically prone to diabetes, however that has no substantial effect on my ability to succeed in life, nor does it substantially effect a black person’s ability to succeed. The majority of the other diseases that blacks are more susceptible to are just as common in other races; lung cancer, strokes, high blood pressure, and asthma. In addition ‘most’ of this is actually lifestyle based, more so than genetics; obesity mostly, which ALL Americans suffer from.

Intelligence on the other hand is part of a learned culture, and this is even truer in the case of IQ tests. It’s why the Japanese out smart American's on average, their culture is heavily honor based and thus they put forth more effort. By the same token a black OR white raised in a 'it’s okay to fail' culture is not likely to be smart as someone raised by professors, scientists, and other similarly intellectual career fields. A culture of intellectuals, thereby increases all parties’ intelligence merely through daily interaction - aka it is a learned social culture trait, not a skin pigmentation trait.

In addition IQ tests are weighted to a specific societal concept of ‘intelligence’ when in fact the concept of ‘intelligence’ is culturally variable. Per your example of sub Saharan Africans, if you were to test them on (out of left field examples because I honestly don’t know much of that particular culture) tribal relationships and finding water, they would likely score far, far higher than an American would. By the same token, if you tested on a parameter of effective drug sales, drug dealers would score higher. Etc. My point is that an IQ test is not racial, its cultural.

As an additional point of fact, one can, at any point in their life, increase their IQ with mental training, regardless of race.

Of course your response seems to ignore the cultural and ethnic dimension to race, especially in this country.

The reason why Obama could be considered black though he is half white and raised by a white family, is that he adopted the culture of the black community and so his skin pigment is not the only thing involved in his classification as a black man.

Also, IQ is not purely cultural either. Being able to reason three dimensionally, memorize strings of numbers, or deduce what inductively accepted conclusions apply to a particular setting are based on natural ability to think. I have done a lot of blue collar work in my time and I can swear to you that there are a lot of people who are just busted brick stupid and no amount of tutoring will ever help them.

 

[Unkotare]

Are you white? IF not that totally explains your response.

Congratulations! You just passed the 'Internet Idiot Test.' You are now, without a doubt, a complete fucking idiot. For the internet idiot "Yer one-a thems, ain't ya?" is perfectly logical. For the rest of the world, that is completely fucking stupid. Way to go, champ. You've earned it.

 

[JimBowie1958]

putting words in my mouth for the win, eh?

Not at all. Reading your own words.

So do you think whites have a right to equal protection before the law? Do you think whites have the right to due process? Do whites have the right to free speech?.

Obviously 'they' do, and those laws are exercised everyday all across this great land.

But not for whites in Fergusun.

Yes, there too, drama-queen.

How is that when white counter protesters have been repeatedly assaulted by the mob and the cops have not arrested anyone for these assaults?

You are a pollyana dreamer who cant face reality, and so anyone telling you things need to change is immediately met with your idiotic accusations of being a drama queen. Demanding free speech rights does not make one a drama queen, dude.