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Sirius posters? Take Route?First, when I say “democracy “I mean in the loose sense that we talk about it here in the United States, where we have a representative republic. By “democracy “I mean that the people get to make the decisions that the constitution allows us to make by vote.
This principle took a big hit when the leaders and senior advisors of the Democratic Party decided to overthrow the elected president and elected nominee for a second term.
Some of us may think that Trump winning the general election is the hope for democracy. Maybe. But there are several possibilities.
One Trump could definitely lose. nearly any mainstream Republican could easily be Kamala Harris. But with the media being so hysterical over Trump, they will pull out all stops and there is no telling what they will come up with between now and November.
Trump could win and not be able to accomplish the deep cleaning of the executive branch that would need to happen in order for democracy to have a chance to take route again. Trump could win and simply not live long enough to accomplish that. Trump could win, deep, clean the executive branch, but still be defeated by political parties, willing to go around voters as the Democrats did this time and courts willing to allow them to do it.
So… think about what life will be like.I have some ideas, but I’d rather this thread be an open discussion of how we would live when political parties and not voters choose our leaders.
Because my guess is that if Trump is not able to bring about this return to democracy, the Republican party will quickly jump on board with making the choices themselves. After all their senior leader ship was never happy with the voters choosing Trump in the first place.
I’d like to hear from Sirius posters and learn what they think.
Prior to the 1950's, while we had a representative government, Dixie Democrats continued doing all it could to keep blacks from voting, after the Civil War. When it became crystal clear that they could no longer stop blacks from voting, they decided to give government handouts to minorities to bring in their votes but keep them in inner-city areas with poor schools and ensure the women could get more money if they didn't marry the fathers of their children.So, you are saying that prior to the 1950s when the current primary system became widely used we did not have democracy in the United States?
I see the flaw in your logic. You say here that a democracy and a direct democracy are the same thing; they are not. That would like saying a car and a sports car are the same thing.Democrats like to say we are a democracy, but in actuality, we are only a direct democracy when it comes to electing our congressional representative and senators (which, regardless of a state's size, can only have two). Our President is and always has been, elected by our Electoral College (for good reason).
The Democrats not being allowed to choose their own representative at the DNC is how it starts.
Prior to the 1950's, while we had a representative government,
...that doesn't give a damn about its constituents, that is wholly owned by Israel.We still have a representative government.
...that doesn't give a damn about its constituents,
Yes, but in defense of "we the people", our minds and perceptions have been and still are manipulated by propagandists. We The People are treated like mushrooms--fed fecal matter 24/7 for a century at least. As former CIA man Casey noted 40 years ago, when everything the American people believe is false....been that way for a long time.
but really, who do we have to blame but ourselves since it is "we the people" that keep voting them back into office.
Incumbents win reelection at around a 90% clip
Adolf Hitler achieved the highest vote count, as well... it wasn't the election... it's what he and his party did AFTER the election, yes?In what way would Trump winning damage democracy? The primary voters chose him, and the general election voters would be chosing him.
That's democracy init?
So, Hitler was elected with a fair vote count, and therefore . . . election's with fair vote counts are fascist?Adolf Hitler achieved the highest vote count, as well... it wasn't the election... it's what he and his party did AFTER the election, yes?
Nope... not what I said or meant, and you darned-well know it...So, Hitler was elected with a fair vote count, and therefore . . . election's with fair vote counts are fascist?
Then what was your point?Nope... not what I said or meant, and you darned-well know it...
First, when I say “democracy “I mean in the loose sense that we talk about it here in the United States, where we have a representative republic. By “democracy “I mean that the people get to make the decisions that the constitution allows us to make by vote.
This principle took a big hit when the leaders and senior advisors of the Democratic Party decided to overthrow the elected president and elected nominee for a second term.
Not sure what you mean by "AI photo," but bizarre accusations about Trump come so fast and furious that it's hard to keep track of them all.Um....Biden is still president. No seat of power in government changed. How was the elected president 'overthrown'?
Trump says AI photo, you say AI photo. Trump says Biden was overthrown. You say Biden was overthrown.
You're kinda unnecessary to your own arguments.
