He wasn't kidding: Federal agents conduct immigration enforcement raids in at least six states

[Rustic]

Criminal control makes much more sense... more frivolous laws will not save one single person…

I think a simple thing like trigger locks, what you would call a frivolous law, would save at least 100 lives annually, most of them children.

That's a nonissue...
2017 Real Time Death Statistics in America

 

[rat pack]

Criminal control makes much more sense... more frivolous laws will not save one single person…

Works for overtime parking. Doesn't it? You don't see a single car double parked because they doubled the fines in order to crack down on it.

Parking is not a right

And no constitutional right is absolute. Government can place reasonable limits on any right, as long as it means tests, that the restrictions are reasonable in order to carry out the governments responsibility to protect the people and to promote the general welfare.

 

[rat pack]

That's a nonissue...
2017 Real Time Death Statistics in America

CURRENT DEATH TOLL
from Jan 1, 2017 - Feb 12, 2017 (12:40:00 PM 2:41:43 PM)

Accident (unintentional): 15,883


How many of those "accidents" were gun accidents? Maybe you can find a figure for that.

 

[Rustic]

Criminal control makes much more sense... more frivolous laws will not save one single person…

Works for overtime parking. Doesn't it? You don't see a single car double parked because they doubled the fines in order to crack down on it.

Parking is not a right

And no constitutional right is absolute. Government can place reasonable limits on any right, as long as it means tests, that the restrictions are reasonable in order to carry out the governments responsibility to protect the people and to promote the general welfare.

Taking firerms away from the average citizen helps nobody…

 

[Rustic]

That's a nonissue...
2017 Real Time Death Statistics in America

CURRENT DEATH TOLL
from Jan 1, 2017 - Feb 12, 2017 (12:40:00 PM 2:41:43 PM)

Accident (unintentional): 15,883


How many of those "accidents" were gun accidents? Maybe you can find a figure for that.

More people die from falling off the bed and falling trees then from someone killing with an AR 15...

 

[rat pack]

Taking firerms away from the average citizen helps nobody…

The average citizen can't hit the broadside of a barn. The average citizen has more training learning to drive, than learning to shoot. They spend more time keeping their driving skills sharp, than their shooting skills.

There are some citizens who are quite good with firearms, but they're not the average by a long shot. The average citizen if confronted by a bad guy is more likely to have the gun taken from them and used against them, than they are stopping the bad guy.

 

[Rustic]

Taking firerms away from the average citizen helps nobody…

The average citizen can't hit the broadside of a barn. The average citizen has more training learning to drive, than learning to shoot. They spend more time keeping their driving skills sharp, than their shooting skills.

There are some citizens who are quite good with firearms, but they're not the average by a long shot. The average citizen if confronted by a bad guy is more likely to have the gun taken from them and used against them, than they are stopping the bad guy.

That is what training is for… But commonsense really doesn't apply to urban areas does it…

 

[Marion Morrison]

Every illegal deported is a net gain for America.

Only if socialism is more important than Capitalism.

How so? It drives wages up, makes more jobs available, and doubly eases the burden of the taxpayer-funded safety nets.

Not to mention jail systems and schools.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Taking firerms away from the average citizen helps nobody…

The average citizen can't hit the broadside of a barn. The average citizen has more training learning to drive, than learning to shoot. They spend more time keeping their driving skills sharp, than their shooting skills.

There are some citizens who are quite good with firearms, but they're not the average by a long shot. The average citizen if confronted by a bad guy is more likely to have the gun taken from them and used against them, than they are stopping the bad guy.

This isn't a gun control thread.

 

[rat pack]

More people die from falling off the bed and falling trees then from someone killing with an AR 15...

Why do you chose an AR-15. You know that the FBI doesn't keep stats on the specific weapon used in crimes, or reported incidents. All they categorize by is riffle, shotgun, handgun. Specifics aren't collected, which is why the assault weapon death tolls are so low. The deaths reported by Toyota Prius are near non-existent.

 

[rat pack]

This isn't a gun control thread.

I didn't start the fire.

 

[Marion Morrison]

More people die from falling off the bed and falling trees then from someone killing with an AR 15...

Why do you chose an AR-15. You know that the FBI doesn't keep stats on the specific weapon used in crimes, or reported incidents. All they categorize by is riffle, shotgun, handgun. Specifics aren't collected, which is why the assault weapon death tolls are so low. The deaths reported by Toyota Prius are near non-existent.

Why are you trying to derail this thread?

 

[francoHFW]

U.S. immigration authorities arrested hundreds of undocumented immigrants in at least a half-dozen states this week in a series of raids that marked the first large-scale enforcement of President Trump’s Jan. 26 order to crack down on the estimated 11 million immigrants living here illegally.

The raids, which officials said targeted known criminals, also netted some immigrants who did not have criminal records, an apparent departure from similar enforcement waves during the Obama administration that aimed to just corral and deport those who had committed crimes.

Trump has pledged to deport as many as 3 million undocumented immigrants with criminal records. Last month he also made a change to the Obama administration’s policy of prioritizing deportation for convicted criminals, substantially broadening the scope of who the Department of Homeland Security can target to include those with minor offenses or no convictions at all.

Federal agents conduct immigration enforcement raids in at least six states

Eventually, if you have an outstanding parking ticket, out you go the way it should be.

Attention liberals: keep those pussy hats ready to go because I'm sure you are going to get the call to protest and riot. Today six states, tomorrow twelve.

ICE is claiming these raids were planned under the Obama administration. So it looks like blaming Trump is?

I don't know where you got that from, not the OP. Why would DumBama plan a raid long after he was out of the White House? That doesn't even make sense. From the OP:

“This is clearly the first wave of attacks under the Trump administration, and we know this isn’t going to be the only one,” Cristina Jimenez, executive director of United We Dream, an immigrant youth organization, said Friday during a conference call with immigration advocates.

I got it from a news report on TV.

Well again, I would question that source. Obama had plenty of time to do things like this the last eight years. It's in conflict with the OP.

ICE says this is just the same stuff that Obama DID do for 8 years. and this is just an over reaction from the media, hispanics, and racists due to over the top rhetoric for Trump administration and racists....

 

[Rustic]

More people die from falling off the bed and falling trees then from someone killing with an AR 15...

Why do you chose an AR-15. You know that the FBI doesn't keep stats on the specific weapon used in crimes, or reported incidents. All they categorize by is riffle, shotgun, handgun. Specifics aren't collected, which is why the assault weapon death tolls are so low. The deaths reported by Toyota Prius are near non-existent.

The chances of dying from someone using an AR 15 are so tiny it does not even matter... people use hammers to kill many more people

 

[Marion Morrison]

U.S. immigration authorities arrested hundreds of undocumented immigrants in at least a half-dozen states this week in a series of raids that marked the first large-scale enforcement of President Trump’s Jan. 26 order to crack down on the estimated 11 million immigrants living here illegally.

The raids, which officials said targeted known criminals, also netted some immigrants who did not have criminal records, an apparent departure from similar enforcement waves during the Obama administration that aimed to just corral and deport those who had committed crimes.

Trump has pledged to deport as many as 3 million undocumented immigrants with criminal records. Last month he also made a change to the Obama administration’s policy of prioritizing deportation for convicted criminals, substantially broadening the scope of who the Department of Homeland Security can target to include those with minor offenses or no convictions at all.

Federal agents conduct immigration enforcement raids in at least six states

Eventually, if you have an outstanding parking ticket, out you go the way it should be.

Attention liberals: keep those pussy hats ready to go because I'm sure you are going to get the call to protest and riot. Today six states, tomorrow twelve.

ICE is claiming these raids were planned under the Obama administration. So it looks like blaming Trump is?

I don't know where you got that from, not the OP. Why would DumBama plan a raid long after he was out of the White House? That doesn't even make sense. From the OP:

“This is clearly the first wave of attacks under the Trump administration, and we know this isn’t going to be the only one,” Cristina Jimenez, executive director of United We Dream, an immigrant youth organization, said Friday during a conference call with immigration advocates.

I got it from a news report on TV.

Well again, I would question that source. Obama had plenty of time to do things like this the last eight years. It's in conflict with the OP.

ICE says this is just the same stuff that Obama DID do for 8 years. and this is just an over reaction from the media, hispanics, and racists due to over the top rhetoric for Trump administration and racists....

This is true minus the racist part.

 

[rat pack]

Why are you trying to derail this thread?

Who posted 10 USC 311? Address that poster.

 

[rat pack]

The chances of dying from someone using an AR 15 are so tiny it does not even matter... people use hammers to kill many more people

Actually we'll never know, since the FBI doesn't collect statistics based on the model of firearm. I'll bet more people are killed by a smith and Wesson, than by a craftsman hammer. Maybe you can dig up some stats on that?

 

[Rustic]

The chances of dying from someone using an AR 15 are so tiny it does not even matter... people use hammers to kill many more people

Actually we'll never know, since the FBI doesn't collect statistics based on the model of firearm. I'll bet more people are killed by a smith and Wesson, than by a craftsman hammer. Maybe you can dig up some stats on that?

In areas which happened to be a rural firearms outnumber people many, many times over they have the most lax gun control laws = the least amount of violent crime… Fact

 

[basquebromance]

It really is true:

America is the most decent, generous, kindhearted & giving country in the history of the planet.

It's true.

that doesn't mean we don't get tough on criminals!

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

U.S. immigration authorities arrested hundreds of undocumented immigrants in at least a half-dozen states this week in a series of raids that marked the first large-scale enforcement of President Trump’s Jan. 26 order to crack down on the estimated 11 million immigrants living here illegally.

The raids, which officials said targeted known criminals, also netted some immigrants who did not have criminal records, an apparent departure from similar enforcement waves during the Obama administration that aimed to just corral and deport those who had committed crimes.

Trump has pledged to deport as many as 3 million undocumented immigrants with criminal records. Last month he also made a change to the Obama administration’s policy of prioritizing deportation for convicted criminals, substantially broadening the scope of who the Department of Homeland Security can target to include those with minor offenses or no convictions at all.

Federal agents conduct immigration enforcement raids in at least six states

Eventually, if you have an outstanding parking ticket, out you go the way it should be.

Attention liberals: keep those pussy hats ready to go because I'm sure you are going to get the call to protest and riot. Today six states, tomorrow twelve.

The Subversive Traitor Organisation the ACLU has on their website published a primer to instruct Illegal Immigrants on how to deceive United States Immigration authorities, Homeland Security and other law enforcement.

Jefferson B. Sessions III needs to shut down the Subversive Traitor Organisation the ACLU, for starters then shut down the Subversive Hate Organisation the SPLC and also declare BLM as a Domestic Terrorist Organisation.

I wasn't aware that Illegal Immigrants were covered under the American Constitution, the ACLU seems to think that they are.

Here's the link to the ACLU primer.

What To Do If Immigration Agents (ICE) Are At Your Door

It's also on the ACLU's Twitter as well with the #NoBanNoWallsNoRaids

ACLU National on Twitter