Help me understand something about Black culture / behaviors/ beliefs?

[bodecea]

Caucasian male here....generalizing ofcourse.
Us quality Caucasians tend to condemn and distance ourselves from the white criminals, white trash, white drug addicts and just overall poor quality Caucasians among us...we do this not only because they are poor quality humans but also because we are mindful that we are and can be grouped in with the common behaviors of our majority...like it or not generalizing and stereotyping isn't going away....It seems like more times than not the quality blacks are too quick to make excuses for the lesser quality and almost never condemn their piers who make them look bad...in fact, I've even seen them almost support the behaviors. Isn't this constant excuse making for bad behavior basically giving the youth a justification for their actions and behaviors? How will they ever hold themselves accountable if it's always someone else or another cause that made them do it. Aren't you in a sense condoning such bad behaviors by not condemning?
It seems blacks only follow and listen to blacks so until well respected blacks who are basically mentors to the youth...such as the Drake and Kanye's condemn bad behaviors can't we be pretty certain that X cycles will continue?

I can't argue with this.

Denzel Washington on fatherhood, family values

Denzel Washington is probably going to catch hell for espousing a family values script that has been tethered in the hands of conservatives.

“It starts at the home,” the prolific actor recently told the New York Daily News. “It starts with how you raise your children. If a young man doesn’t have a father figure, he’ll go find a father figure. So, you know, I can’t blame the system. It’s unfortunate that we make such easy work for them.”

Of course you can't. And you can't really argue with what you are about to be told. Half the white households have no father in them. So lets not talk about family values. You guys listen to black actors. black basketball players and everyone but the black experts. Denzel is not the one to listen to. Denzel is a great performer but he is no expert on these matters. William Julius Wilson is.

The 2017 Wilson Lecture William Julius Wilson: Reflections on Race, Class and Cumulative Adversity

Do you really expect anyone to watch an hour of someone making excuses for black failure, as if your posts weren't enough?

There has been no back failure. Whites are the ones who have failed. Look at you, you are an example of it. Just because you are not man enough to look at the facts doesn't change the reality that such facts exist. All it foes is show that you are a racist pussy.

You enablers have fabricated one excuse after another..you call these fabricated excuses "facts"....it's plain fuckin weird that you're able to do this for decades upon decades.
Whitey nor the plantation owner is forcing DaShawn and ShaQuita to drop out of the ninth grade....whitey is not inserting Dashawn's unprotected penis into the vaginas of filthy ghetto queens creating multiple baby mamas, whitey is not forcing DaShawn to commit crime and become incarcerated, whitey is not forcing DaShawn to embrace, to glamorize and take pride in his filth and failures, whitey is not forcing DaShawn to prefer to be a pet human to taxpayers.

Where's that "thoughtful, courteous and kind" part?

 

[BrokeLoser]

I can't argue with this.

Denzel Washington on fatherhood, family values

Denzel Washington is probably going to catch hell for espousing a family values script that has been tethered in the hands of conservatives.

“It starts at the home,” the prolific actor recently told the New York Daily News. “It starts with how you raise your children. If a young man doesn’t have a father figure, he’ll go find a father figure. So, you know, I can’t blame the system. It’s unfortunate that we make such easy work for them.”

Of course you can't. And you can't really argue with what you are about to be told. Half the white households have no father in them. So lets not talk about family values. You guys listen to black actors. black basketball players and everyone but the black experts. Denzel is not the one to listen to. Denzel is a great performer but he is no expert on these matters. William Julius Wilson is.

The 2017 Wilson Lecture William Julius Wilson: Reflections on Race, Class and Cumulative Adversity

Do you really expect anyone to watch an hour of someone making excuses for black failure, as if your posts weren't enough?

There has been no back failure. Whites are the ones who have failed. Look at you, you are an example of it. Just because you are not man enough to look at the facts doesn't change the reality that such facts exist. All it foes is show that you are a racist pussy.

You enablers have fabricated one excuse after another..you call these fabricated excuses "facts"....it's plain fuckin weird that you're able to do this for decades upon decades.
Whitey nor the plantation owner is forcing DaShawn and ShaQuita to drop out of the ninth grade....whitey is not inserting Dashawn's unprotected penis into the vaginas of filthy ghetto queens creating multiple baby mamas, whitey is not forcing DaShawn to commit crime and become incarcerated, whitey is not forcing DaShawn to embrace, to glamorize and take pride in his filth and failures, whitey is not forcing DaShawn to prefer to be a pet human to taxpayers.

Where's that "thoughtful, courteous and kind" part?

I'll play along.
You can add that if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy.

 

[Paul Essien]

So, sub-Saharan Africa, black failure and political correctness don't exist.

Depends what you mean by "failed" as that's subjective. You think in terms hierachy. That's how white people think in that everything has to be ordered.

Let's say you were in rural Kenya.

How long do you think it would be before I came upon your pink and naked body laying in a fen of fern, gasping and shivering, eyes bulging in horror, whilst some poisonous amphibian set atop your chest awaiting your inevitable demise?

Can you start a fire without matches ? Can you look at the sun and use it guidance map ? Can you purify water ? Can skin a wild animal and the fur as clothing ? Do you know how preserve food without a fridge ?

Strip away the technology and tools and what can you really do ?

By taking away humans weapons, you’re removing almost every advantage humans have - it’s like a turtle without a shell.

The human animal is not adapted to fit in the wild. Humans require fire to survive. Humans require electricity and the by-products produced using electricity. Medicine is a requirement. Present day man may be able to survive for a long time in the wild but new born children will die from lack of nourishment, poor environment and long term climate conditions.

The human civilization that you live in is set up precisely so you’re not tested. s

You want a chicken ? You don't have to kill it. You go down your shop buy one and cook it. Hell you can buy an already cooked one and warm it up in the microwave or if that’s too stressful you can phone up and order one and they’ll deliver it to your doorstep. Most humans buy everything at stores, and many don’t even walk to them, they use cars to get there.

Humans have lost many of it’s animal instincts, as humans simply don’t have to fight for their food and without tools, the human race would become extinct within a year.

If you are black and not some white snowflake, why would you deny the existence of your ancestral homeland?

No such thing as ancestral homeland. There is only countries dominated by white supremacy. White supremacy dominates every country on the planet.

Why would you insist on political correctness yet deny its existence?

Political correctness was really never anything but the desire for folks not to be racist pricks.

The main reason white people get angry at political correctness is to maintain a form of white privilege : The privilege of saying whatever whites want, whenever whites want.

That u won’t be able to understand this point is about your own sense of entitlement. White people are not used to anyone telling them that they can’t do something so they take great offense when their own freedom, including the freedom to offend, is stopped.

Why do you defend black failure when that too does not exist?

If black people are such failures then why do white people need a system to prop them up ?
Why practice systematic racism against black people ? I mean. We are failues. right ? so we are just gonna fk thins up anyway. right ?

 

[Meathead]

So, sub-Saharan Africa, black failure and political correctness don't exist.

Depends what you mean by "failed" as that's subjective. You think in terms hierachy. That's how white people think in that everything has to be ordered.

Let's say you were in rural Kenya.

How long do you think it would be before I came upon your pink and naked body laying in a fen of fern, gasping and shivering, eyes bulging in horror, whilst some poisonous amphibian set atop your chest awaiting your inevitable demise?

Can you start a fire without matches ? Can you look at the sun and use it guidance map ? Can you purify water ? Can skin a wild animal and the fur as clothing ? Do you know how preserve food without a fridge ?

Strip away the technology and tools and what can you really do ?

By taking away humans weapons, you’re removing almost every advantage humans have - it’s like a turtle without a shell.

The human animal is not adapted to fit in the wild. Humans require fire to survive. Humans require electricity and the by-products produced using electricity. Medicine is a requirement. Present day man may be able to survive for a long time in the wild but new born children will die from lack of nourishment, poor environment and long term climate conditions.

The human civilization that you live in is set up precisely so you’re not tested. s

You want a chicken ? You don't have to kill it. You go down your shop buy one and cook it. Hell you can buy an already cooked one and warm it up in the microwave or if that’s too stressful you can phone up and order one and they’ll deliver it to your doorstep. Most humans buy everything at stores, and many don’t even walk to them, they use cars to get there.

Humans have lost many of it’s animal instincts, as humans simply don’t have to fight for their food and without tools, the human race would become extinct within a year.

If you are black and not some white snowflake, why would you deny the existence of your ancestral homeland?

No such thing as ancestral homeland. There is only countries dominated by white supremacy. White supremacy dominates every country on the planet.

Why would you insist on political correctness yet deny its existence?

Political correctness was really never anything but the desire for folks not to be racist pricks.

The main reason white people get angry at political correctness is to maintain a form of white privilege : The privilege of saying whatever whites want, whenever whites want.

That u won’t be able to understand this point is about your own sense of entitlement. White people are not used to anyone telling them that they can’t do something so they take great offense when their own freedom, including the freedom to offend, is stopped.

Why do you defend black failure when that too does not exist?

If black people are such failures then why do white people need a system to prop them up ?
Why practice systematic racism against black people ? I mean. We are failues. right ? so we are just gonna fk thins up anyway. right ?

This is silly. If black failure did not exist, we wouldn't be having this conversation. If political correctness didn't exist, you wouldn't be crying racism merely for acknowledging it.

I'm not even going to get into the existence of sub-Saharan Africa.

 

[Paul Essien]

This is silly.

Ad hominems don't mean anything.

If black failure did not exist,

What you do mean when you say "Black failure" because you talk in general terms and that could mean anything.

we wouldn't be having this conversation. If political correctness didn't exist, you wouldn't be crying racism merely for acknowledging it.

What is "political correctness" ? And what do you mean by the term "crying racism"

I'm not even going to get into the existence of sub-Saharan Africa.

So if Africa is the place you claim it is, then why did they have to fight whites to get out of there ?

 

[Asclepias]

This is silly.

Ad hominems don't mean anything.

If black failure did not exist,

What you do mean when you say "Black failure" because you talk in general terms and that could mean anything.

we wouldn't be having this conversation. If political correctness didn't exist, you wouldn't be crying racism merely for acknowledging it.

What is "political correctness" ? And what do you mean by the term "crying racism"

I'm not even going to get into the existence of sub-Saharan Africa.

So if Africa is the place you claim it is, then why did they have to fight whites to get out of there ?

There is a reason he calls himself meathead. Its because he already knows how dumb he is. He talks in generalities because he lacks the intellect to express himself in terms of specifics.

 

[Meathead]

This is silly.

Ad hominems don't mean anything.

If black failure did not exist,

What you do mean when you say "Black failure" because you talk in general terms and that could mean anything.

we wouldn't be having this conversation. If political correctness didn't exist, you wouldn't be crying racism merely for acknowledging it.

What is "political correctness" ? And what do you mean by the term "crying racism"

I'm not even going to get into the existence of sub-Saharan Africa.

So if Africa is the place you claim it is, then why did they have to fight whites to get out of there ?

WTF are you talking about?

Sub-Saharan Africa is the biggest shithole in the world. Black failure is global and political correctness is why those are unacceptable to you.

These are not secrets.

 

[sealybobo]

So is this forum a combination of reasonable people and trolls?

Thanks and take care

Which are you? Since you just derailed the thread and your comment has nothing to do with the subject I’m guessing troll?

 

[sealybobo]

This is silly.

Ad hominems don't mean anything.

If black failure did not exist,

What you do mean when you say "Black failure" because you talk in general terms and that could mean anything.

we wouldn't be having this conversation. If political correctness didn't exist, you wouldn't be crying racism merely for acknowledging it.

What is "political correctness" ? And what do you mean by the term "crying racism"

I'm not even going to get into the existence of sub-Saharan Africa.

So if Africa is the place you claim it is, then why did they have to fight whites to get out of there ?

WTF are you talking about?

Sub-Saharan Africa is the biggest shithole in the world. Black failure is global and political correctness is why those are unacceptable to you.

These are not secrets.

What’s wrong with your country? Don’t they have a Greek message board? Dot GR?

 

[Meathead]

This is silly.

Ad hominems don't mean anything.

If black failure did not exist,

What you do mean when you say "Black failure" because you talk in general terms and that could mean anything.

we wouldn't be having this conversation. If political correctness didn't exist, you wouldn't be crying racism merely for acknowledging it.

What is "political correctness" ? And what do you mean by the term "crying racism"

I'm not even going to get into the existence of sub-Saharan Africa.

So if Africa is the place you claim it is, then why did they have to fight whites to get out of there ?

WTF are you talking about?

Sub-Saharan Africa is the biggest shithole in the world. Black failure is global and political correctness is why those are unacceptable to you.

These are not secrets.

What’s wrong with your country? Don’t they have a Greek message board? Dot GR?

Why? I am a dual citizen: US/Greek and I live in the Czech Republic and can speak and write in each language.

Snowflakes don't get to dictate where I post. After all, are there no sites for snowflakes where you can post and political correctness is demanded, and indeed enforced?

 

[sealybobo]

Caucasian male here....generalizing ofcourse.
Us quality Caucasians tend to condemn and distance ourselves from the white criminals, white trash, white drug addicts and just overall poor quality Caucasians among us...we do this not only because they are poor quality humans but also because we are mindful that we are and can be grouped in with the common behaviors of our majority...like it or not generalizing and stereotyping isn't going away....It seems like more times than not the quality blacks are too quick to make excuses for the lesser quality and almost never condemn their piers who make them look bad...in fact, I've even seen them almost support the behaviors. Isn't this constant excuse making for bad behavior basically giving the youth a justification for their actions and behaviors? How will they ever hold themselves accountable if it's always someone else or another cause that made them do it. Aren't you in a sense condoning such bad behaviors by not condemning?
It seems blacks only follow and listen to blacks so until well respected blacks who are basically mentors to the youth...such as the Drake and Kanye's condemn bad behaviors can't we be pretty certain that X cycles will continue?

I can't argue with this.

Denzel Washington on fatherhood, family values

Denzel Washington is probably going to catch hell for espousing a family values script that has been tethered in the hands of conservatives.

“It starts at the home,” the prolific actor recently told the New York Daily News. “It starts with how you raise your children. If a young man doesn’t have a father figure, he’ll go find a father figure. So, you know, I can’t blame the system. It’s unfortunate that we make such easy work for them.”

Of course you can't. And you can't really argue with what you are about to be told. Half the white households have no father in them. So lets not talk about family values. You guys listen to black actors. black basketball players and everyone but the black experts. Denzel is not the one to listen to. Denzel is a great performer but he is no expert on these matters. William Julius Wilson is.

The 2017 Wilson Lecture William Julius Wilson: Reflections on Race, Class and Cumulative Adversity

Do you really expect anyone to watch an hour of someone making excuses for black failure, as if your posts weren't enough?

There has been no back failure. Whites are the ones who have failed. Look at you, you are an example of it. Just because you are not man enough to look at the facts doesn't change the reality that such facts exist. All it foes is show that you are a racist pussy.

You enablers have fabricated one excuse after another..you call these fabricated excuses "facts"....it's plain fuckin weird that you're able to do this for decades upon decades.
Whitey nor the plantation owner is forcing DaShawn and ShaQuita to drop out of the ninth grade....whitey is not inserting Dashawn's unprotected penis into the vaginas of filthy ghetto queens creating multiple baby mamas, whitey is not forcing DaShawn to commit crime and become incarcerated, whitey is not forcing DaShawn to embrace, to glamorize and take pride in his filth and failures, whitey is not forcing DaShawn to prefer to be a pet human to taxpayers.

They’ll say those people are the result of generations of being kept down. And that is true. But in order for them to make it in America they have to stop.

And they know this because the ones who do make in America do it. But the ghetto blacks tell other ghetto blacks they’re sellouts or losers for working at Burger King. Well that’s where you got to start. Same for poor white people.

They need to also realize no one is going to make a person like that an employee let alone a ceo. Barrack obama types can be ceos. Michael Jordan could be a ceo. So let’s see the black culture emulate that not young geezy

 

[The Irish Ram]

I find it odd, that you named yourself BrokeLoser, and yet describe your self as a quality Caucasian.

Let us be the judge of that.....

I'm guessing that must mean you're a real Irish Ram then?
A real Irish mountain goat that can type...WOW!
My username could be one facetious in nature...I could explain further if you care to continue deflecting from the issue?

Except there is more than one definition of the word ram. Too broke for school books were you?
Nothing in your op to deflect. It is worthless rationale. You would do well as a human to look for the common ground instead of looking down from your pretend pedestal...

 

[IM2]

I can't argue with this.

Denzel Washington on fatherhood, family values

Denzel Washington is probably going to catch hell for espousing a family values script that has been tethered in the hands of conservatives.

“It starts at the home,” the prolific actor recently told the New York Daily News. “It starts with how you raise your children. If a young man doesn’t have a father figure, he’ll go find a father figure. So, you know, I can’t blame the system. It’s unfortunate that we make such easy work for them.”

Of course you can't. And you can't really argue with what you are about to be told. Half the white households have no father in them. So lets not talk about family values. You guys listen to black actors. black basketball players and everyone but the black experts. Denzel is not the one to listen to. Denzel is a great performer but he is no expert on these matters. William Julius Wilson is.

The 2017 Wilson Lecture William Julius Wilson: Reflections on Race, Class and Cumulative Adversity

Do you really expect anyone to watch an hour of someone making excuses for black failure, as if your posts weren't enough?

There has been no back failure. Whites are the ones who have failed. Look at you, you are an example of it. Just because you are not man enough to look at the facts doesn't change the reality that such facts exist. All it foes is show that you are a racist pussy.

You enablers have fabricated one excuse after another..you call these fabricated excuses "facts"....it's plain fuckin weird that you're able to do this for decades upon decades.
Whitey nor the plantation owner is forcing DaShawn and ShaQuita to drop out of the ninth grade....whitey is not inserting Dashawn's unprotected penis into the vaginas of filthy ghetto queens creating multiple baby mamas, whitey is not forcing DaShawn to commit crime and become incarcerated, whitey is not forcing DaShawn to embrace, to glamorize and take pride in his filth and failures, whitey is not forcing DaShawn to prefer to be a pet human to taxpayers.

They’ll say those people are the result of generations of being kept down. And that is true. But in order for them to make it in America they have to stop.

And they know this because the ones who do make in America do it. But the ghetto blacks tell other ghetto blacks they’re sellouts or losers for working at Burger King. Well that’s where you got to start. Same for poor white people.

They need to also realize no one is going to make a person like that an employee let alone a ceo. Barrack obama types can be ceos. Michael Jordan could be a ceo. So let’s see the black culture emulate that not young geezy

You really need to shut up whte boy. Because what you say is totally untrue. If what you said was true.Maguc Johnson would be called a sellout for acting white because he owns businsses and so would many other black business people.

What you white people need to do is shut the fuck up and deal with the many problems you have in your own communities. You commit more crimes do just as much if not more drugs and have he same problem with single aren't families yet you bitches think you have the right to sit on your punk asses lecturing us on the internet. Your race has been given every handout that this government has created and you still have these problems. Every white communities should have streets paved with gold for as much as you bitches have been given. So please spare me your opinions about blacks. You don't now shit about black people.

 

[Paul Essien]

Why? I am a dual citizen: US/Greek and I live in the Czech Republic and can speak and write in each language.

This guy lives in the Czech Republic and this proves my point because whites often say "Well if you've been around black people...you think like I do" well there are pretty much no black ppl in the Czech Repub and black people are still on his mind.

And wasn't they killing each other down there a decade ago ? All that war in Bosnia and all the shit going on. White people should have far more anger at there own people, because there own people have caused them more sh*t than blk people ever could.

 

[Meathead]

Why? I am a dual citizen: US/Greek and I live in the Czech Republic and can speak and write in each language.

This guy lives in the Czech Republic and this proves my point because whites often say "Well if you've been around black people...you think like I do" well there are pretty much no black ppl in the Czech Repub and black people are still on his mind.

And wasn't they killing each other down there a decade ago ? All that war in Bosnia and all the shit going on. White people should have far more anger at there own people, because there own people have caused them more sh*t than blk people ever could.

Almost no murders or black people in CZ. That's Chicago you're thinking of, or St. Louis, or NO, or Baltimore, or pretty much anywhere with lots of blacks.

 

[Paul Essien]

Almost no murders or black people in CZ. That's Chicago you're thinking of, or St. Louis, or NO, or Baltimore, or pretty much anywhere with lots of blacks.

Silence. You clown.

White people down there (Czech Repub) have been killing each other for decades, What was it ? The "Velvet Divorce" or the "Kosovo war" or who ever the fk was killing each other down there.

You split into you're own separate states (Slovakia, Slovenia).because you could not stand other white people.

And you're up here worrying about black people thousand's of miles away (lol)

 

[miketx]

the idea is a pretty worn out stereotype, black parents dont like their kids listening to rap music, just as much as white parents do.

What i would suggest is read some books by black authors and watch a few black movies if you want to learn about black people (assuming there are no black people where you live) rather than asking a mostly white internet forum

Black movies are usually about two things: slavery, or thug life.

 

[mudwhistle]

Caucasian male here....generalizing ofcourse.
Us quality Caucasians tend to condemn and distance ourselves from the white criminals, white trash, white drug addicts and just overall poor quality Caucasians among us...we do this not only because they are poor quality humans but also because we are mindful that we are and can be grouped in with the common behaviors of our majority...like it or not generalizing and stereotyping isn't going away....It seems like more times than not the quality blacks are too quick to make excuses for the lesser quality and almost never condemn their piers who make them look bad...in fact, I've even seen them almost support the behaviors. Isn't this constant excuse making for bad behavior basically giving the youth a justification for their actions and behaviors? How will they ever hold themselves accountable if it's always someone else or another cause that made them do it. Aren't you in a sense condoning such bad behaviors by not condemning?
It seems blacks only follow and listen to blacks so until well respected blacks who are basically mentors to the youth...such as the Drake and Kanye's condemn bad behaviors can't we be pretty certain that X cycles will continue?

You elected a crook and criminal to be president and you support him without fail. So don't ask stupid ass questions.

If he's a crook, name the crimes?
I can name every crime Obama committed and provide links to the statutes.
You throw racism and criminality around like it's meaningless.
Put up or shut up.

 

[IM2]

Caucasian male here....generalizing ofcourse.
Us quality Caucasians tend to condemn and distance ourselves from the white criminals, white trash, white drug addicts and just overall poor quality Caucasians among us...we do this not only because they are poor quality humans but also because we are mindful that we are and can be grouped in with the common behaviors of our majority...like it or not generalizing and stereotyping isn't going away....It seems like more times than not the quality blacks are too quick to make excuses for the lesser quality and almost never condemn their piers who make them look bad...in fact, I've even seen them almost support the behaviors. Isn't this constant excuse making for bad behavior basically giving the youth a justification for their actions and behaviors? How will they ever hold themselves accountable if it's always someone else or another cause that made them do it. Aren't you in a sense condoning such bad behaviors by not condemning?
It seems blacks only follow and listen to blacks so until well respected blacks who are basically mentors to the youth...such as the Drake and Kanye's condemn bad behaviors can't we be pretty certain that X cycles will continue?

You elected a crook and criminal to be president and you support him without fail. So don't ask stupid ass questions.

If he's a crook, name the crimes?
I can name every crime Obama committed and provide links to the statutes.
You throw racism and criminality around like it's meaningless.
Put up or shut up.

Sure you can. How about we start with fraud.

I don't throw racism around. You are a mother fucking racist. You've shown that yourself.

 

[mudwhistle]

Almost no murders or black people in CZ. That's Chicago you're thinking of, or St. Louis, or NO, or Baltimore, or pretty much anywhere with lots of blacks.

Silence. You clown.

White people down there (Czech Repub) have been killing each other for decades, What was it ? The "Velvet Divorce" or the "Kosovo war" or who ever the fk was killing each other down there.

You split into you're own separate states (Slovakia, Slovenia).because you could not stand other white people.

And you're up here worrying about black people thousand's of miles away (lol)

That really makes no sense.
First of all you say "White People" have been killing each other for decades......as if that's an excuse for drug dealers and gang members killing each other over turf or because somebody hurt their pride. It's one thing to us deadly violence because a country is invading it's neighbors. Yet another when some motherfucker called you a bitch. Wars start because one country sees that somebody has something they want and instead of trading with them they want to just take it. This isn't just White People that do this.

Try to keep it in perspective.