Here is what I want to know from Democrats at USMB....

[JoeB131]

So the gutless Liberal won't do himself what he says.

When I see a rabid possum in the yard, I call the possum catcher. That's how shit gets done.

 

[Conservative65]

I call it pandering.

So you can guarantee a positive return on the investment?

What you don't want is those who had the kids to be responsible for their own kids. What I want is for those like you who think it's such a good investment to pay their tuition with our money. If you believe it is, you shouldn't have a problem doing that.

Cleetus, you don't make enough money to pay any taxes as a Possum Catcher. I probably pay more taxes than you do.

Yes, I am all for paying my taxes. Why I could lie my ass off about how much my side business made last year, I will report every dollar and pay my full amount on schedule C.

The rich should pay their fair share. It's called Democracy, not socialism.

Two claims you can't support with evidence. Typical Liberal.

When the rich are already paying their fair share and those benefiting from it don't pay from the pot where they get those benefits, that's socialism.

 

[Conservative65]

So the gutless Liberal won't do himself what he says.

When I see a rabid possum in the yard, I call the possum catcher. That's how shit gets done.

I was correct, a cowardly asshole that hides behind others. Just another characteristic of a Liberal.

 

[JoeB131]

Two claims you can't support with evidence. Typical Liberal.

When the rich are already paying their fair share and those benefiting from it don't pay from the pot where they get those benefits, that's socialism.

Guy, I can tell by the way you talk you wouldn't last more than a few weeks in a professional office. You probably engage in some marginal part of the economy, like Possum Catcher.

I was correct, a cowardly asshole that hides behind others. Just another characteristic of a Liberal.

NOt at all. I leave stuff to the professionals. I don't want to work for the IRS or the ATF, but I want them to do the jobs they are supposed to do. Make people pay their fair share and keep guns out of the hands of nuts like you.

Now, dammit, Cleetus, get to work. Those possums aren't going to catch themselves.

 

[Conservative65]

Two claims you can't support with evidence. Typical Liberal.

When the rich are already paying their fair share and those benefiting from it don't pay from the pot where they get those benefits, that's socialism.

Guy, I can tell by the way you talk you wouldn't last more than a few weeks in a professional office. You probably engage in some marginal part of the economy, like Possum Catcher.

I was correct, a cowardly asshole that hides behind others. Just another characteristic of a Liberal.

NOt at all. I leave stuff to the professionals. I don't want to work for the IRS or the ATF, but I want them to do the jobs they are supposed to do. Make people pay their fair share and keep guns out of the hands of nuts like you.

Now, dammit, Cleetus, get to work. Those possums aren't going to catch themselves.

You don't work a job more than 6 months at a time yet call yourself a professional. Is that what McDonalds calls a french fry dropper?

Like I said. If you think I'm a nut, come and try to take my guns or continue to hide like a pussy.

Get to work. People wash hash browns for breakfast.

 

[rightwinger]

Hyperbole much?

Education benefits the whole country. Healthy citizens benefits the country

We have paid for FREE education for all for over a century. We are a better country because of it





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We are?

The Unites States pays more per capita for education than any other industrialized country on earth, yet we only have mediocre results to show for it. I don't see our education system making us a better country.

You prefer Ignorance?

Don't like how we compare to other industrialized countries then block funding for advanced education

If it doesn't work with primary education, what makes you think advanced education would be any different?

The definition of insanity is............

Nonsense

Our education system has managed to produce a workforce making us the most powerful economy on earth

How do you think producing a less educated populace will make us more competitive?

We already have more people in college than we need. Why do you think those liberal colleges charge so much anyway? It's called supply and demand. The higher the demand and shorter the supply, the higher the cost of anything.

And if you really believe that our workforce is the most powerful, why change it? It must be working fine according to you.

It's not just college but all post graduate training to include vocational. We need workers qualified beyond the high school level
Our biggest problem with college education is that it is becoming a crippling expense for middle class Americans. Recent graduates and their parents are crippled with debt and starting salaries have not kept up

 

[rightwinger]

And let's make anyone who supports war pay for it

Why do you have it in your stupid liberal head that people "support war?" I mean... really... honestly.... do you think there are Republicans who get a boner whenever someone talks about there might be a war? Like it's some kind of sick twisted turn on for us?

I hate wars! I wish we didn't ever have to have them! But the reality of life is, there are times when war is necessary and has to be fought. It's not something pleasant... we don't look forward to it... it's not what we want to happen... but sometimes it needs to happen. You like to live with your head buried in the sand and a bouquet of daisies stuck in your ass like some kind of free love flower power hippie from the 1960s.

Whoosh......went right over your head didn't it?

The issue isn't whether or not we should support war, but whether taxpayers should only have to pay for those things they support

 

[Conservative65]

And let's make anyone who supports war pay for it

Why do you have it in your stupid liberal head that people "support war?" I mean... really... honestly.... do you think there are Republicans who get a boner whenever someone talks about there might be a war? Like it's some kind of sick twisted turn on for us?

I hate wars! I wish we didn't ever have to have them! But the reality of life is, there are times when war is necessary and has to be fought. It's not something pleasant... we don't look forward to it... it's not what we want to happen... but sometimes it needs to happen. You like to live with your head buried in the sand and a bouquet of daisies stuck in your ass like some kind of free love flower power hippie from the 1960s.

Whoosh......went right over your head didn't it?

The issue isn't whether or not we should support war, but whether taxpayers should only have to pay for those things they support

The issue is whether or not taxpayers should have to pay for things that aren't delegated in the Constitution. The military is, social programs aren't.

Guess that went over your head and I know you can't be that tall. Shit can't be stacked but so high.

 

[rightwinger]

Free education for all is what made this country great

Used to be eighth grade was good enough, then High School......now it looks like college

Bernie is ahead of the power curve

Then let Bernie and the Democrats pay for it.

Cool

And let's make anyone who supports war pay for it

No, we all need to pay for our military because in our US Constitution, the federal government is supposed to protect it's citizens; nothing in there about sending them to college.

Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention empire building around the globe

Has nothing to do with a common defense

Really, so what was the last empire we've ever built?

We haven't fought a defensive war within our own borders since 1812

 

[rightwinger]

And let's make anyone who supports war pay for it

Why do you have it in your stupid liberal head that people "support war?" I mean... really... honestly.... do you think there are Republicans who get a boner whenever someone talks about there might be a war? Like it's some kind of sick twisted turn on for us?

I hate wars! I wish we didn't ever have to have them! But the reality of life is, there are times when war is necessary and has to be fought. It's not something pleasant... we don't look forward to it... it's not what we want to happen... but sometimes it needs to happen. You like to live with your head buried in the sand and a bouquet of daisies stuck in your ass like some kind of free love flower power hippie from the 1960s.

Whoosh......went right over your head didn't it?

The issue isn't whether or not we should support war, but whether taxpayers should only have to pay for those things they support

The issue is whether or not taxpayers should have to pay for things that aren't delegated in the Constitution. The military is, social programs aren't.

Guess that went over your head and I know you can't be that tall. Shit can't be stacked but so high.

Yes, Social programs are constitutional

You lost that argument 80 years ago

 

[Conservative65]

And let's make anyone who supports war pay for it

Why do you have it in your stupid liberal head that people "support war?" I mean... really... honestly.... do you think there are Republicans who get a boner whenever someone talks about there might be a war? Like it's some kind of sick twisted turn on for us?

I hate wars! I wish we didn't ever have to have them! But the reality of life is, there are times when war is necessary and has to be fought. It's not something pleasant... we don't look forward to it... it's not what we want to happen... but sometimes it needs to happen. You like to live with your head buried in the sand and a bouquet of daisies stuck in your ass like some kind of free love flower power hippie from the 1960s.

Whoosh......went right over your head didn't it?

The issue isn't whether or not we should support war, but whether taxpayers should only have to pay for those things they support

The issue is whether or not taxpayers should have to pay for things that aren't delegated in the Constitution. The military is, social programs aren't.

Guess that went over your head and I know you can't be that tall. Shit can't be stacked but so high.

Yes, Social programs are constitutional

You lost that argument 80 years ago

Perhaps you can show me the word food stamps then. I've been looking and can't find it.

 

[rightwinger]

And let's make anyone who supports war pay for it

Why do you have it in your stupid liberal head that people "support war?" I mean... really... honestly.... do you think there are Republicans who get a boner whenever someone talks about there might be a war? Like it's some kind of sick twisted turn on for us?

I hate wars! I wish we didn't ever have to have them! But the reality of life is, there are times when war is necessary and has to be fought. It's not something pleasant... we don't look forward to it... it's not what we want to happen... but sometimes it needs to happen. You like to live with your head buried in the sand and a bouquet of daisies stuck in your ass like some kind of free love flower power hippie from the 1960s.

Whoosh......went right over your head didn't it?

The issue isn't whether or not we should support war, but whether taxpayers should only have to pay for those things they support

The issue is whether or not taxpayers should have to pay for things that aren't delegated in the Constitution. The military is, social programs aren't.

Guess that went over your head and I know you can't be that tall. Shit can't be stacked but so high.

Yes, Social programs are constitutional

You lost that argument 80 years ago

Perhaps you can show me the word food stamps then. I've been looking and can't find it.

There are a lot of words not in the Constitution does not mean they are not Constitutional

 

[Conservative65]

Why do you have it in your stupid liberal head that people "support war?" I mean... really... honestly.... do you think there are Republicans who get a boner whenever someone talks about there might be a war? Like it's some kind of sick twisted turn on for us?

I hate wars! I wish we didn't ever have to have them! But the reality of life is, there are times when war is necessary and has to be fought. It's not something pleasant... we don't look forward to it... it's not what we want to happen... but sometimes it needs to happen. You like to live with your head buried in the sand and a bouquet of daisies stuck in your ass like some kind of free love flower power hippie from the 1960s.

Whoosh......went right over your head didn't it?

The issue isn't whether or not we should support war, but whether taxpayers should only have to pay for those things they support

The issue is whether or not taxpayers should have to pay for things that aren't delegated in the Constitution. The military is, social programs aren't.

Guess that went over your head and I know you can't be that tall. Shit can't be stacked but so high.

Yes, Social programs are constitutional

You lost that argument 80 years ago

Perhaps you can show me the word food stamps then. I've been looking and can't find it.

There are a lot of words not in the Constitution

Including all the social programs you say are. The word military is in the Constitution and you morons do everything you can to reduce spending on it. You lose.

 

[Redfish]

What's so great about someone that isn't the parent of a kid being forced to pay the taxes that funds what the kid's own parents won't do?

What on earth does that have to do what I posted?

You don't support every expenditure your tax dollars go to? Well....welcome to the club

YOU said, "I like Bernie Sanders and think his proposals would be great for the country". One of his proposals is college tuition. It addresses what you posted unless you're going to say Bernie doesn't support that.

Difference is you support things for which no constitutional authority is delegated.

Free education for all is what made this country great

Used to be eighth grade was good enough, then High School......now it looks like college

Bernie is ahead of the power curve

Yeah, everything FREE FREE FREE, Free stuff for everyone, free education, free condoms, free food, free gas, free housing, free TV, free obozo phones.

You dumb shit, someone has to pay for all the free shit. and there aren't enough evil rich people to cover the cost even if we take 100% of what they have and what they earn.

Hyperbole much?

Education benefits the whole country. Healthy citizens benefits the country

We have paid for FREE education for all for over a century. We are a better country because of it





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Yes, free education through high school is good for the country. But you libs want a lot more than that. Why should medical care be free? Should doctors and hospitals be paid for their services? or would you propose that all medicine be run like the VA?

 

[Boss]

And let's make anyone who supports war pay for it

Why do you have it in your stupid liberal head that people "support war?" I mean... really... honestly.... do you think there are Republicans who get a boner whenever someone talks about there might be a war? Like it's some kind of sick twisted turn on for us?

I hate wars! I wish we didn't ever have to have them! But the reality of life is, there are times when war is necessary and has to be fought. It's not something pleasant... we don't look forward to it... it's not what we want to happen... but sometimes it needs to happen. You like to live with your head buried in the sand and a bouquet of daisies stuck in your ass like some kind of free love flower power hippie from the 1960s.

Whoosh......went right over your head didn't it?

The issue isn't whether or not we should support war, but whether taxpayers should only have to pay for those things they support

Well that is equally as stupid as well. Why have a nation? Why have a state? Why have taxpayers?

 

[Redfish]

I have never said Hillary is a socialist. Again, you try to lump everyone into one group. I have always maintained Hillary is for Corporations at the expense of the middle class.

You still haven't told me what the Democrats have done for the middle class in the last few years.

They weren't passing anti middle class policies like the Republicans. They weren't giving tax breaks to the rich which means they weren't shifting the tax burden more onto us.

When did Republicans ever shift the tax burden to the middle-class?

I'll challenge you right here and right now:

As a middle-class working man, I can easily list several expenses that I have to pay for thanks to the Democrat party and in particular, DumBama. I want you to show me one......just one expense I had to suffer under Republican leadership.

The truth of the matter is that under Democrat control, the wealthy and middle-class get screwed, because their money is transferred to the so-called poor, or otherwise those that don't feel like working.

The Republicans (and mostly the conservatives) are all for the middle-class. If there was never an Obama, nor a Democrat led Congress, I would be doing so much better today financially.

When the rich and corporations got huge tax breaks and the debt doubles, that shifts more of the tax burden on us.

Gov Rick Snyder gave corporations tax breaks and now says he has to raise our taxes to fix the roads. Because we don't have any money he says. That's a great example

When the rich and corporations got huge tax breaks and the debt doubles, that shifts more of the tax burden on us.

When did the corporations get huge tax breaks from Bush?
After the Bush tax cuts, the rich were paying a bigger chunk, the opposite of your claim.

When the rich get richer and the middle class and below get poorer, the rich will pay more of the tax burden..... it is a progressive tax system.... if the rich are successful in acquiring more income, while the others acquire less of the pie, it's only natural for their share of the taxes paid in dollars, go up.....you earn more income, you pay more income tax in dollars, even if your tax rate does not change, and even if your tax rate goes down....

the rich already pay almost all of the tax burden. Why should 50% of American citizens pay nothing to the federal government?

BTW, the gap between rich and poor has gotten larger under obozo the Kenyan messiah.

 

[Redfish]

Why do you have it in your stupid liberal head that people "support war?" I mean... really... honestly.... do you think there are Republicans who get a boner whenever someone talks about there might be a war? Like it's some kind of sick twisted turn on for us?

I hate wars! I wish we didn't ever have to have them! But the reality of life is, there are times when war is necessary and has to be fought. It's not something pleasant... we don't look forward to it... it's not what we want to happen... but sometimes it needs to happen. You like to live with your head buried in the sand and a bouquet of daisies stuck in your ass like some kind of free love flower power hippie from the 1960s.

Whoosh......went right over your head didn't it?

The issue isn't whether or not we should support war, but whether taxpayers should only have to pay for those things they support

The issue is whether or not taxpayers should have to pay for things that aren't delegated in the Constitution. The military is, social programs aren't.

Guess that went over your head and I know you can't be that tall. Shit can't be stacked but so high.

Yes, Social programs are constitutional

You lost that argument 80 years ago

Perhaps you can show me the word food stamps then. I've been looking and can't find it.

There are a lot of words not in the Constitution does not mean they are not Constitutional

"provide for the general welfare" does not mean give free stuff to everyone.

 

[Boss]

Yes, free education through high school is good for the country. But you libs want a lot more than that. Why should medical care be free? Should doctors and hospitals be paid for their services? or would you propose that all medicine be run like the VA?

We don't have "FREE" education or anything else. Teachers and staff are paid with dollars from taxpayers. And YES, they want the same thing for health care. The problem is, you can normalize education so that everyone gets the same amount of product... you can't do so with health care. But this is where Socialism comes into play. Under the tenet of Socialism... to each according to need, from each according to ability.

 

[Redfish]

Yes, free education through high school is good for the country. But you libs want a lot more than that. Why should medical care be free? Should doctors and hospitals be paid for their services? or would you propose that all medicine be run like the VA?

We don't have "FREE" education or anything else. Teachers and staff are paid with dollars from taxpayers. And YES, they want the same thing for health care. The problem is, you can normalize education so that everyone gets the same amount of product... you can't do so with health care. But this is where Socialism comes into play. Under the tenet of Socialism... to each according to need, from each according to ability.

right, to be accurate, what they want is Marxist collectivism.

 

[Conservative65]

Yes, free education through high school is good for the country. But you libs want a lot more than that. Why should medical care be free? Should doctors and hospitals be paid for their services? or would you propose that all medicine be run like the VA?

We don't have "FREE" education or anything else. Teachers and staff are paid with dollars from taxpayers. And YES, they want the same thing for health care. The problem is, you can normalize education so that everyone gets the same amount of product... you can't do so with health care. But this is where Socialism comes into play. Under the tenet of Socialism... to each according to need, from each according to ability.

Someone should explain that to the Liberals. The latest if free college education and they'll defend it's free because the person benefiting pays nothing.

Having served on a commission board for a local public safety entity where I live, I understand full well about the healthcare statement. As a commission board, we were responsible for contracting the healthcare for the employees. We offered single, single plus dependents, employee/spouse, and full family. We had those who were single that never used a dime of the benefit as they did not go to the doctor. The only costs they incurred was a small portion of their premium that wasn't provided as part of their compensation package. Each year the contract was renewed, the premiums on those that didn't use any of the insurance increased.