here's my plan to fix Obamacare

You consider people dying in the street and /or losing everything they own is "freedom"?
before they got to the point of dying in the street (which has never been shown to be an accurate example) did they not have the freedom to work and be responsible enough to make plans and put things in place to take care of the situation should it arise?
They are the ones that made the choice to die in the street without care, they made that choice years ago and never swayed from it. Them dying in the street is the choice they made, why would you suddenly want to deny them the outcome of their choices.

You are a heartless monster . Should we kill disabled people too?

Most health issues can be fixed, and the person goes back to being an active member of society .

If you have insurance and use it , you are just being a leech to those who don't anyway .

If anything in life ever goes toward the less fortunate side of things for you, you are on your own in this society, and you deserved it. We have no society at this point; we have a collection of cannibals pretending to be a society. So no one should pay any taxes. No one should serve in the military. No one should really much give a fuck about america or american society. No one should operate in any space of compassion, fellowship, of concern for anyone but himself. Amber alerts should be ignored. And if this jackass would ever put his gun to his own twisted head, you should loot his house and go on about ya bidness. Ah america, that shitty city on a hill.
You don't belong to our society, perhaps, being an anti social, criminal commie. You belong to the societies of.pol pot and north korea.

I belong to a lovely society of Americans, and Christians, however. We populate all the nation and are the majority...outside the disgusting shitholes of the largest cities.
 
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Some folks would rather have the most expensive healthcare system on the planet with shittier outcomes and more folks left uncovered, because them damn poor folks are getting what they deserve

Some folks (i.e. - you and the rest of the bleeding hearts) think that others should get something yet the only way you go about funding it is to force the other guy to do it. If you care so much, provide those folks you think it's owed to the coverage with your money. The only ones I owe it to are MY family.

Do you believe that children should be offered an education regardless of their ability to pay?

If they can't pay, I think YOU should fund it for them. That's what I did for my kids.
Thats only because you are a responsible citizen that actually cares about your family.
Hell, I bet you can even name every one of your children, you know where they are and have never had to have them visit you in prison.

That's what responsible parents do. Responsible parents aren't ones that go on TV and say "he was a good boy/girl" right after their kid shot innocent people.

And that has what to do with the american healthcare system again?
 
You consider people dying in the street and /or losing everything they own is "freedom"?
before they got to the point of dying in the street (which has never been shown to be an accurate example) did they not have the freedom to work and be responsible enough to make plans and put things in place to take care of the situation should it arise?
They are the ones that made the choice to die in the street without care, they made that choice years ago and never swayed from it. Them dying in the street is the choice they made, why would you suddenly want to deny them the outcome of their choices.

You are a heartless monster . Should we kill disabled people too?

Most health issues can be fixed, and the person goes back to being an active member of society .

If you have insurance and use it , you are just being a leech to those who don't anyway .

If anything in life ever goes toward the less fortunate side of things for you, you are on your own in this society, and you deserved it. We have no society at this point; we have a collection of cannibals pretending to be a society. So no one should pay any taxes. No one should serve in the military. No one should really much give a fuck about america or american society. No one should operate in any space of compassion, fellowship, of concern for anyone but himself. Amber alerts should be ignored. And if this jackass would ever put his gun to his own twisted head, you should loot his house and go on about ya bidness. Ah america, that shitty city on a hill.
You don't belong to our society, perhaps, being an anti social, criminal commie. You belong to the societies of.pol pot and north korea.

I belong to a lovely society of Americans, and Christians, however. We populate all the nation and are the majority...outside the disgusting shitholes of the largest cities.


Ha ha ha, I think you rather supported my point in your first line, thanks pard.
 
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Some folks would rather have the most expensive healthcare system on the planet with shittier outcomes and more folks left uncovered, because them damn poor folks are getting what they deserve

Some folks (i.e. - you and the rest of the bleeding hearts) think that others should get something yet the only way you go about funding it is to force the other guy to do it. If you care so much, provide those folks you think it's owed to the coverage with your money. The only ones I owe it to are MY family.

Do you believe that children should be offered an education regardless of their ability to pay?

If they can't pay, I think YOU should fund it for them. That's what I did for my kids.
Thats only because you are a responsible citizen that actually cares about your family.
Hell, I bet you can even name every one of your children, you know where they are and have never had to have them visit you in prison.

What child is poor by their own fault?

What child that's not mine is more of my responsibility to provide for than the kid's own parents.

You have your priorities mixed up. You hold those of us that didn't produce the child more responsible for that child's well being than you do the one that did produce him/her.

Like I've said before. If you want to be responsible for them, go for it with YOUR money. MY money is for MY family. The children I produced are on a much higher level than those I didn't.
 
So anyway about the state of the american healthcare system:

Ranking 37th — Measuring the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp0910064

The U.S. Health System in Perspective: A Comparison of Twelve Industrialized Nations
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/~/media/Files/Publications/Issue Brief/2011/Jul/1532_Squires_US_hlt_sys_comparison_12_nations_intl_brief_v2.pdf


U.S. Healthcare Ranked Dead Last Compared To 10 Other Countries


Comparing Health System Performance In OECD Countries
 
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Some folks (i.e. - you and the rest of the bleeding hearts) think that others should get something yet the only way you go about funding it is to force the other guy to do it. If you care so much, provide those folks you think it's owed to the coverage with your money. The only ones I owe it to are MY family.

Do you believe that children should be offered an education regardless of their ability to pay?

If they can't pay, I think YOU should fund it for them. That's what I did for my kids.
Thats only because you are a responsible citizen that actually cares about your family.
Hell, I bet you can even name every one of your children, you know where they are and have never had to have them visit you in prison.

That's what responsible parents do. Responsible parents aren't ones that go on TV and say "he was a good boy/girl" right after their kid shot innocent people.

And that has what to do with the american healthcare system again?

Plenty on this site think that those that didn't have a child are more responsible for that child's well being that those that did have him/her. When the excuse of "a child didn't choose to be poor" is used to support providing healthcare, it's enough to prove that the one saying it thinks the person that didn't have the child should do for that child what his/her own parents won't do.
 
So anyway about the state of the american healthcare system:

Ranking 37th — Measuring the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp0910064


The U.S. Health System in Perspective: A Comparison of Twelve Industrialized Nations
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/~/media/Files/Publications/Issue Brief/2011/Jul/1532_Squires_US_hlt_sys_comparison_12_nations_intl_brief_v2.pdf



U.S. Healthcare Ranked Dead Last Compared To 10 Other Countries


Comparing Health System Performance In OECD Countries

My healthcare is good and my healthcare coverage is good. No problems. Why should I want to make it worse on me so someone else can have it better?
 
The constitution guaranteed them socialist healthcare. Fascinating.

No. The Constitution makes them some of the very few legitimate Government employees. Since we live in a,society where healthcare is generally a benefit of full time employment, it also makes them some of the few who should ever have their medical care paid for from the Government.
 
Legislate by extortion, pass trillions in Obamacare spending then later via extortion try to force taxpayers into paying for it. That is Obamacare, a multi-trillion dollar maxed out credit card Democrats have no way of paying.
 
So anyway about the state of the american healthcare system:

Ranking 37th — Measuring the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp0910064


The U.S. Health System in Perspective: A Comparison of Twelve Industrialized Nations
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/~/media/Files/Publications/Issue Brief/2011/Jul/1532_Squires_US_hlt_sys_comparison_12_nations_intl_brief_v2.pdf



U.S. Healthcare Ranked Dead Last Compared To 10 Other Countries


Comparing Health System Performance In OECD Countries

Yes we have veered close to the precipice that other commie shitholes fell off from. But we have corrected our course. Ifnyoubare too stupid to provide for.yourself, commit yourself to the nuttery.
 
You consider people dying in the street and /or losing everything they own is "freedom"?
before they got to the point of dying in the street (which has never been shown to be an accurate example) did they not have the freedom to work and be responsible enough to make plans and put things in place to take care of the situation should it arise?
They are the ones that made the choice to die in the street without care, they made that choice years ago and never swayed from it. Them dying in the street is the choice they made, why would you suddenly want to deny them the outcome of their choices.

You are a heartless monster . Should we kill disabled people too?

Most health issues can be fixed, and the person goes back to being an active member of society .

If you have insurance and use it , you are just being a leech to those who don't anyway .

If anything in life ever goes toward the less fortunate side of things for you, you are on your own in this society, and you deserved it. We have no society at this point; we have a collection of cannibals pretending to be a society. So no one should pay any taxes. No one should serve in the military. No one should really much give a fuck about america or american society. No one should operate in any space of compassion, fellowship, of concern for anyone but himself. Amber alerts should be ignored. And if this jackass would ever put his gun to his own twisted head, you should loot his house and go on about ya bidness. Ah america, that shitty city on a hill.
You don't belong to our society, perhaps, being an anti social, criminal commie. You belong to the societies of.pol pot and north korea.

I belong to a lovely society of Americans, and Christians, however. We populate all the nation and are the majority...outside the disgusting shitholes of the largest cities.


Ha ha ha, I think you rather supported my point in your first line, thanks pard.

You have no point.
 
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Some folks (i.e. - you and the rest of the bleeding hearts) think that others should get something yet the only way you go about funding it is to force the other guy to do it. If you care so much, provide those folks you think it's owed to the coverage with your money. The only ones I owe it to are MY family.

Do you believe that children should be offered an education regardless of their ability to pay?

If they can't pay, I think YOU should fund it for them. That's what I did for my kids.
Thats only because you are a responsible citizen that actually cares about your family.
Hell, I bet you can even name every one of your children, you know where they are and have never had to have them visit you in prison.

What child is poor by their own fault?

What child that's not mine is more of my responsibility to provide for than the kid's own parents.

You have your priorities mixed up. You hold those of us that didn't produce the child more responsible for that child's well being than you do the one that did produce him/her.

Like I've said before. If you want to be responsible for them, go for it with YOUR money. MY money is for MY family. The children I produced are on a much higher level than those I didn't.

Okay, I just wanted establish as fact that you are content to see poor American children die for lack of healthcare.

And I have.
 
If you have insurance and use it , you are just being a leech to those who don't anyway .
Oh this is going to be good.
please explain how someone that works, buys their insurance with their own money, is being a leech to someone that doesnt buy insurance in the first place.
every time you think the left has hit the apex of stupid, one of you all come up with something like this.
Please explain in detail how Im being a leech by using something I paid for with my money.

You become a leech to the health people in your insurance group.
 
Legislate by extortion, pass trillions in Obamacare spending then later via extortion try to force taxpayers into paying for it. That is Obamacare, a multi-trillion dollar maxed out credit card Democrats have no way of paying.


Really, what are the trillions of Obamacare spending that was not paid for in the bill?

Answer that, or shut the fuck up.
 
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Do you believe that children should be offered an education regardless of their ability to pay?

If they can't pay, I think YOU should fund it for them. That's what I did for my kids.
Thats only because you are a responsible citizen that actually cares about your family.
Hell, I bet you can even name every one of your children, you know where they are and have never had to have them visit you in prison.

What child is poor by their own fault?

What child that's not mine is more of my responsibility to provide for than the kid's own parents.

You have your priorities mixed up. You hold those of us that didn't produce the child more responsible for that child's well being than you do the one that did produce him/her.

Like I've said before. If you want to be responsible for them, go for it with YOUR money. MY money is for MY family. The children I produced are on a much higher level than those I didn't.

Okay, I just wanted establish as fact that you are content to see poor American children die for lack of healthcare.

And I have.
I think he has established the fact that you are only willing to help that child if the money doesnt have to come out of your pocket.
In some circles, the way you would like to see things work would be called theft.
 
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Do you believe that children should be offered an education regardless of their ability to pay?

If they can't pay, I think YOU should fund it for them. That's what I did for my kids.
Thats only because you are a responsible citizen that actually cares about your family.
Hell, I bet you can even name every one of your children, you know where they are and have never had to have them visit you in prison.

What child is poor by their own fault?

What child that's not mine is more of my responsibility to provide for than the kid's own parents.

You have your priorities mixed up. You hold those of us that didn't produce the child more responsible for that child's well being than you do the one that did produce him/her.

Like I've said before. If you want to be responsible for them, go for it with YOUR money. MY money is for MY family. The children I produced are on a much higher level than those I didn't.

Okay, I just wanted establish as fact that you are content to see poor American children die for lack of healthcare.

And I have.

Since you think it's owed to them and you won't provide it with your money, it's on you. I've proven that you're unwilling to do what YOU think should be done and blame others because you won't do it.
 
If you have insurance and use it , you are just being a leech to those who don't anyway .
Oh this is going to be good.
please explain how someone that works, buys their insurance with their own money, is being a leech to someone that doesnt buy insurance in the first place.
every time you think the left has hit the apex of stupid, one of you all come up with something like this.
Please explain in detail how Im being a leech by using something I paid for with my money.

You become a leech to the health people in your insurance group.

Impossible. A leech is someone that doesn't provide to the group.
 
If they can't pay, I think YOU should fund it for them. That's what I did for my kids.
Thats only because you are a responsible citizen that actually cares about your family.
Hell, I bet you can even name every one of your children, you know where they are and have never had to have them visit you in prison.

What child is poor by their own fault?

What child that's not mine is more of my responsibility to provide for than the kid's own parents.

You have your priorities mixed up. You hold those of us that didn't produce the child more responsible for that child's well being than you do the one that did produce him/her.

Like I've said before. If you want to be responsible for them, go for it with YOUR money. MY money is for MY family. The children I produced are on a much higher level than those I didn't.

Okay, I just wanted establish as fact that you are content to see poor American children die for lack of healthcare.

And I have.
I think he has established the fact that you are only willing to help that child if the money doesnt have to come out of your pocket.
In some circles, the way you would like to see things work would be called theft.

He's proven that he think
If they can't pay, I think YOU should fund it for them. That's what I did for my kids.
Thats only because you are a responsible citizen that actually cares about your family.
Hell, I bet you can even name every one of your children, you know where they are and have never had to have them visit you in prison.

What child is poor by their own fault?

What child that's not mine is more of my responsibility to provide for than the kid's own parents.

You have your priorities mixed up. You hold those of us that didn't produce the child more responsible for that child's well being than you do the one that did produce him/her.

Like I've said before. If you want to be responsible for them, go for it with YOUR money. MY money is for MY family. The children I produced are on a much higher level than those I didn't.

Okay, I just wanted establish as fact that you are content to see poor American children die for lack of healthcare.

And I have.
I think he has established the fact that you are only willing to help that child if the money doesnt have to come out of your pocket.
In some circles, the way you would like to see things work would be called theft.

He's one of those that thinks supporting someone else being forced to do something means he actually did something himself.
 
If they can't pay, I think YOU should fund it for them. That's what I did for my kids.
Thats only because you are a responsible citizen that actually cares about your family.
Hell, I bet you can even name every one of your children, you know where they are and have never had to have them visit you in prison.

What child is poor by their own fault?

What child that's not mine is more of my responsibility to provide for than the kid's own parents.

You have your priorities mixed up. You hold those of us that didn't produce the child more responsible for that child's well being than you do the one that did produce him/her.

Like I've said before. If you want to be responsible for them, go for it with YOUR money. MY money is for MY family. The children I produced are on a much higher level than those I didn't.

Okay, I just wanted establish as fact that you are content to see poor American children die for lack of healthcare.

And I have.

Since you think it's owed to them and you won't provide it with your money, it's on you. I've proven that you're unwilling to do what YOU think should be done and blame others because you won't do it.

I've proven that you would let poor American children die for lack of healthcare.

I think my work here is finished.
 
If you have insurance and use it , you are just being a leech to those who don't anyway .
Oh this is going to be good.
please explain how someone that works, buys their insurance with their own money, is being a leech to someone that doesnt buy insurance in the first place.
every time you think the left has hit the apex of stupid, one of you all come up with something like this.
Please explain in detail how Im being a leech by using something I paid for with my money.

You become a leech to the health people in your insurance group.

Impossible. A leech is someone that doesn't provide to the group.

Once their costs exceeds what they pay in, they are a leech .

I take it we would also eliminate child birth from health insurance . Since having a child is elective .
 

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