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[peach174]

The Tea Party is the silent majority of the people.
Because we were silent, we had no representation in Washington. That was our fault for not speaking out. We are now correcting that mistake.
We have had enough of the corrupt way Washington is being run by both parties.
The majority of us have never been activists ever in our lives and when we protested we used protest signs that the Lefty activists have used against the Conservatives.
This was then mistakingly labeled as all Tea Party are racists and the majority of us are not.
We are not for established republicans or democrats.
That is why we elected new Republicans who are for our Constitution.
It will be harder to get Constitutional Democrats because socialites have hijacked that party.
We want a smaller more efficient government that can be managed.
We want fiscally responsibility and our debt brought down.

 

[Seawytch]

It is quite obvious that some here have no clue who the Tea Partiers are or what they are all about. It is true that the Koch Brothers have given something like $2 million to groups that are sympathetic to Tea Party goals, but then one of the Koch Brothers once ran for a high office (President?) on the Libertarian Party ticket so if they are conservative Libertarians, they support a lot of Tea Party goals. (They would also support a lot of other stuff that are not part of the Tea Party initiatives.)

But not only do our friends here not know who are what the Tea Partiers are, but they apparently don't yet know who Herman Cain is and why the Tea Party likes him.

Neither Herman Cain nor the Koch Brothers came out of the Tea Party movement, however. But both have embraced the Tea Party movement.

The distinction between those two things probably flies right over the head of some though.

Guess it depends on which Tea Party movement you are talking about. The Koch Brothers are heavily funding the not so grass roots version that sprung up as soon as President Obama was elected. (Which is different than the smattering of Ron Paul supporters that existed prior to Jan 2009).

 

[peach174]

It is quite obvious that some here have no clue who the Tea Partiers are or what they are all about. It is true that the Koch Brothers have given something like $2 million to groups that are sympathetic to Tea Party goals, but then one of the Koch Brothers once ran for a high office (President?) on the Libertarian Party ticket so if they are conservative Libertarians, they support a lot of Tea Party goals. (They would also support a lot of other stuff that are not part of the Tea Party initiatives.)

But not only do our friends here not know who are what the Tea Partiers are, but they apparently don't yet know who Herman Cain is and why the Tea Party likes him.

Neither Herman Cain nor the Koch Brothers came out of the Tea Party movement, however. But both have embraced the Tea Party movement.

The distinction between those two things probably flies right over the head of some though.

Guess it depends on which Tea Party movement you are talking about. The Koch Brothers are heavily funding the not so grass roots version that sprung up as soon as President Obama was elected. (Which is different than the smattering of Ron Paul supporters that existed prior to Jan 2009).

Do you have a link as how much the Koch Brothers have given?

 

[mudwhistle]

DRUDGE REPORT 2011®

I thought Perry was going to be a shoe in
I am going to vote for Cain. always was

Look out libs, this man is a true conservative

whats your thoughts?

My man is Newt. Cain needs seasoning. Perry isn't an establishment candidate and he's been attacked by everyone because of it.

Perry knows what it takes to get the Hispanic vote, but the right won't shelve their prejudices long enough to see that Perry's ideas w

 

[mudwhistle]

DRUDGE REPORT 2011®

I thought Perry was going to be a shoe in
I am going to vote for Cain. always was

Look out libs, this man is a true conservative

whats your thoughts?

My man is Newt. Cain needs seasoning. Perry isn't an establishment candidate and he's been attacked by everyone because of it.

Perry knows what it takes to get the Hispanic vote, but the right won't shelve their prejudices long enough to see that Perry's ideas work better then just putting up a useless wall or just kicking folks out of this country that have lived here most of their lives.

Romney seems to be the establishment candidate which gives me pause. I also think the made a mistake starting a pissing contest with Perry because I think they would have made an unbeatable team to go against Obama and Biden. Now that's all shot to hell simply because of Romney's personal ambitions.

 

[The T]

the tea party is the silent majority of the people.
Because we were silent, we had no representation in washington. That was our fault for not speaking out. We are now correcting that mistake.
We have had enough of the corrupt way washington is being run by both parties.
The majority of us have never been activists ever in our lives and when we protested we used protest signs that the lefty activists have used against the conservatives.
This was then mistakingly labeled as all tea party are racists and the majority of us are not.
We are not for established republicans or democrats.
That is why we elected new republicans who are for our constitution.
It will be harder to get constitutional democrats because socialites have hijacked that party.
We want a smaller more efficient government that can be managed.
We want fiscally responsibility and our debt brought down.

^this^

 

[Mr.Nick]

DRUDGE REPORT 2011®

I thought Perry was going to be a shoe in
I am going to vote for Cain. always was

Look out libs, this man is a true conservative

whats your thoughts?

I think Cains resume makes Obamas resume makes Obama look like a retard.

Given Obamas failures Cain would be a shoe in for president.

Degree in economics, CEO of a successful business vs community organizer and 3 years of economic failure.

Not to mention the progressive socialists wont be able to play the race card.

Cain would destroy Obama by 5-7 points, but I wouldn't be shocked if it was as much as 10.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Herman Cain't ever be president. Just ask any TeaTard Republican power broker.

Hey dippy, Cain is the Tea Party favorite canidate silly goose.



http://www.usmessageboard.com/race-...st-then-why-did-they-do-this.html#post3406685

Hey dippy doopy! There is a huge difference between the teabaggers and the money that funds them..AKA the power brokers. The Koch brothers have NOTHING in common with the average teabagger. The teabaggers are the lost children at the mall crying for their mommies.

No one funds us....

The Tea Party is more similar to a flash mob than a political organization.

"Tea Party" is nothing more than a phrase that describes people who are sick of this bullshit big government...

As a matter of fact the Tea Party is made up of conservatives and libertarians - both of which would disagree on many issues but both agree that government is too big and too authoritarian..

 

[NoNukes]

DRUDGE REPORT 2011®

I thought Perry was going to be a shoe in
I am going to vote for Cain. always was

Look out libs, this man is a true conservative

whats your thoughts?

Herman Cain is becoming more popular because he runs on issues rather than against other people. He lacks the dishonesty and cowardice that it takes to smear opponents or eliminate them from the ballot. He has no Chicago political machine to buy votes, get votes from dead people. I doubt he could buy the election like Sorros did for Obama.

He is politically clean, unlike the rest. I wish him well. However, incumbancy is hard to beat when it comes to entrenched politicians.

Sounds as if you are talking about Republicans, but then you mention Obama.

 

[The T]

Hey dippy, Cain is the Tea Party favorite canidate silly goose.



http://www.usmessageboard.com/race-...st-then-why-did-they-do-this.html#post3406685

Hey dippy doopy! There is a huge difference between the teabaggers and the money that funds them..AKA the power brokers. The Koch brothers have NOTHING in common with the average teabagger. The teabaggers are the lost children at the mall crying for their mommies.

No one funds us....

The Tea Party is more similar to a flash mob than a political organization.

"Tea Party" is nothing more than a phrase that describes people who are sick of this bullshit big government...

As a matter of fact the Tea Party is made up of conservatives and libertarians - both of which would disagree on many issues but both agree that government is too big and too authoritarian..

Precisely. The TEA Party are people from all walks of life, afilliations that have been silent regarding political activity save going to the ballot box exercising thier duties, and living thier lives.

These people have been presented a wall in the form of government that has made them vocal where they had not been before.

These people are now villified for daring to challenge conventional wisdom and the political elitists for exercising thier rights contained in the Second Amendment...the funding comes from...well...themselves.

Can't have this...now can we?

 

[peach174]

The far left keep saying that tea party is just a phase and that they will go away.
But they refuse to acknowledge that they have a cacus now, which means they are not going to go away.

 

[The T]

The far left keep saying that tea party is just a phase and that they will go away.
But they refuse to acknowledge that they have a cacus now, which means they are not going to go away.

A caucus of people that see what the Government elites are doing to thier lives and are speaking out in force?

Imagine that?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The TEA Party are people from all walks of life, afilliations that have been silent regarding political activity save going to the ballot box exercising thier duties, and living thier lives.

Funny, members of the TPM disagree with you:

Looking at voters who consider themselves part of the Tea Party movement:

74 percent are Republicans or independent voters leaning Republican;
16 percent are Democrats or independent voters leaning Democratic;
5 percent are solidly independent;
45 percent are men;
55 percent are women;
88 percent are white;
77 percent voted for Sen. John McCain in 2008;
15 percent voted for President Barack Obama.

National (US) Poll * March 24, 2010 * Tea Party Could Hurt GOP In Co - Quinnipiac University – Hamden, Connecticut

Consequently, the TPM is merely a faction of the GOP, it’s not a ‘grass roots’ movement – it’s noting new, it’s just a re-branding of the Old Bush Base:

Our analysis casts doubt on the Tea Party’s “origin story.” Early on, Tea Partiers were often described as nonpartisan political neophytes. Actually, the Tea Party’s supporters today were highly partisan Republicans long before the Tea Party was born, and were more likely than others to have contacted government officials. In fact, past Republican affiliation is the single strongest predictor of Tea Party support today.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/crashing-the-tea-party.html

Otherwise, the right may go ahead and nominate Cain as the GOP presidential candidate – you’ll just have to go through the same process again in 2016 after Obama’s second term.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Hey dippy doopy! There is a huge difference between the teabaggers and the money that funds them..AKA the power brokers. The Koch brothers have NOTHING in common with the average teabagger. The teabaggers are the lost children at the mall crying for their mommies.

No one funds us....

The Tea Party is more similar to a flash mob than a political organization.

"Tea Party" is nothing more than a phrase that describes people who are sick of this bullshit big government...

As a matter of fact the Tea Party is made up of conservatives and libertarians - both of which would disagree on many issues but both agree that government is too big and too authoritarian..

Precisely. The TEA Party are people from all walks of life, afilliations that have been silent regarding political activity save going to the ballot box exercising thier duties, and living thier lives.

These people have been presented a wall in the form of government that has made them vocal where they had not been before.

These people are now villified for daring to challenge conventional wisdom and the political elitists for exercising thier rights contained in the Second Amendment...the funding comes from...well...themselves.

Can't have this...now can we?

It's the left that portray the tea party as a funded organization when in reality we're not - we just show up to rallys, and we only do so because we don't appreciate the direction this currant government is going - there is no funding.

Progressives only believe the tea party is being funded because ALL progressive movements are funded...

We don't need to be paid to protest, rally or attend town hall meetings. We come because we want to - not because there will be a bunch of people in red shirts handing out free shit in front of a bus waving random people on.

 

[The T]

No one funds us....

The Tea Party is more similar to a flash mob than a political organization.

"Tea Party" is nothing more than a phrase that describes people who are sick of this bullshit big government...

As a matter of fact the Tea Party is made up of conservatives and libertarians - both of which would disagree on many issues but both agree that government is too big and too authoritarian..

Precisely. The TEA Party are people from all walks of life, afilliations that have been silent regarding political activity save going to the ballot box exercising thier duties, and living thier lives.

These people have been presented a wall in the form of government that has made them vocal where they had not been before.

These people are now villified for daring to challenge conventional wisdom and the political elitists for exercising thier rights contained in the Second Amendment...the funding comes from...well...themselves.

Can't have this...now can we?

It's the left that portray the tea party as a funded organization when in reality we're not - we just show up to rallys, and we only do so because we don't appreciate the direction this currant government is going - there is no funding.

Progressives only believe the tea party is being funded because ALL progressive movements are funded...

We don't need to be paid to protest, rally or attend town hall meetings. We come because we want to - not because there will be a bunch of people in red shirts handing out free shit in front of a bus waving random people on.

What they really have a problem with is Liberty and how it was written from the Founders...and thus people exercising it.

 

[Foxfyre]

As Peach, Nick, Mr. T and others are saying, nobody funds the Tea Party. There are groups that arose out of the Tea Party. The Tea Partty didn't have a name in the Bush administration, but they were starting to pay attention and it was mostly them who voted the irresponsible and non responsive GOP out of power in 2006. And they were paying attention when it got even worse with the Democrats in power. They were fighting mad when TARP was passed late in 2008. Then when Congress passed an unconscionably irresonsible appropriations bill in February followed by the first stimulus package on top of TARP and then Obamacare, that was the impetus to get the Tea Patrty moving.

But the Tea Party is not organized as a recognized or registered organization. It is a symbol of all Americans from all walks of life who are demanding a government that is closer to its Constitutional roots, thatt is fiscally responsible and treats the people's money with respect, and that protects and promotes individual liberties.

Again the fact that the Koch Brothers, who fund many many different groups, foundations, organizations, and causes, has given around $2 million to groups sympathetic to the Tea Party is NOT the same thing as funding the Tea Party.

 

[peach174]

Consequently, the TPM is merely a faction of the GOP, it’s not a ‘grass roots’ movement – it’s noting new, it’s just a re-branding of the Old Bush Base:

You just keep saying that to yourself C_Clayton_Jones

The Republicans that have been elected for this congress, is not the same Republicans.
That is why the same old, same old, Republicans are angry with them as well as the Democrats.
If the newly elected Republicans start to cave in to the the same type of Republicans of old, you are going to see them fired after two years and new ones will replace them.
The Tea Party is going to hold our elected officials accountable.
If they stop representing us they will be fired. And they know it.

 

[The T]

As Peach, Nick, Mr. T and others are saying, nobody funds the Tea Party. There are groups that arose out of the Tea Party. The Tea Partty didn't have a name in the Bush administration, but they were starting to pay attention and it was mostly them who voted the irresponsible and non responsive GOP out of power in 2006. And they were paying attention when it got even worse with the Democrats in power. They were fighting mad when TARP was passed late in 2008. Then when Congress passed an unconscionably irresonsible appropriations bill in February followed by the first stimulus package on top of TARP and then Obamacare, that was the impetus to get the Tea Patrty moving.

But the Tea Party is not organized as a recognized or registered organization. It is a symbol of all Americans from all walks of life who are demanding a government that is closer to its Constitutional roots, thatt is fiscally responsible and treats the people's money with respect, and that protects and promotes individual liberties.

Again the fact that the Koch Brothers, who fund many many different groups, foundations, organizations, and causes, has given around $2 million to groups sympathetic to the Tea Party is NOT the same thing as funding the Tea Party.

Now? Contrast this to Geoge Soros, and his manipulation, funding?

 

[peach174]

The left seems to be confusing conservative organizations with the tea party movement.
The Koch Bothers and others are giving their money to conservative organizations.
The Tea Party is not an organization.
They do not have a membership fee and are not an organization.
We give donations to help promote our ideology just like any other group of people.We have many groups with their own names all across the country. Each one has a head organizer along with many others with different type of duties, but they are not leaders.
We have no leader.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Precisely. The TEA Party are people from all walks of life, afilliations that have been silent regarding political activity save going to the ballot box exercising thier duties, and living thier lives.

These people have been presented a wall in the form of government that has made them vocal where they had not been before.

These people are now villified for daring to challenge conventional wisdom and the political elitists for exercising thier rights contained in the Second Amendment...the funding comes from...well...themselves.

Can't have this...now can we?

It's the left that portray the tea party as a funded organization when in reality we're not - we just show up to rallys, and we only do so because we don't appreciate the direction this currant government is going - there is no funding.

Progressives only believe the tea party is being funded because ALL progressive movements are funded...

We don't need to be paid to protest, rally or attend town hall meetings. We come because we want to - not because there will be a bunch of people in red shirts handing out free shit in front of a bus waving random people on.

What they really have a problem with is Liberty and how it was written from the Founders...and thus people exercising it.

And ironically they refer to themselves as "liberals."


They want more government (communism would be adequate), more taxes, more government intervention in both our personal lives and business, more control how we live our everyday lives from our diet to our beliefs both social and religious....

Oh and they're "liberal?"

Only my generation could rationalize beyond all my aforementioned how they're actually "liberals."

I mean you'd have to be a fucking retard to believe in all those ideas and then still draw the conclusion "I'm liberal" - I suppose our public school system is doing a fine job brainwashing future progressives into ignoring reality...