'Hidden History' That Was Staring You In The Face

[PoliticalChic]

Voters hated Hoover and his attempts to solve the Great Depression, yet loved what FDR did....All the threads from Polislick can't change that fact.....

I don't see any denial in your post, of the facts that I presented:

1. There were dozens of earlier recessions....they lasted 1-3 years.

2. Only through FDR's tireless efforts do we find a decade long Depression.

And....other nations came out of the Depression earlier for the simple reason that they didn't have FDR in the driver's seat.

3. The best explanation is that Roosevelt wanted to keep the Depression going....so he could end the guidance of the Constitution.


And you say?

 

[ZZ PUPPS]

...or...Roosevelt Leaves A Stain American Government....a "Red" stain.


I'm about to provide a history lesson that has been hidden from government school grads.....as always....100% incontestable.


1. Background:
Franklin Roosevelt was the 'Perfect Storm' President.
He was on the scene at just the right moment, with the right smile and the right promise....promises he never intended to keep, ....and didn't.

He blasted Hoover as having created the recession by too much spending, promised to balance the budget, promised to cut spending by 25%, and promised to demand a pledge from every cabinet member to follow those strictures.


2. Then Roosevelt turned a recession into a 'Great Depression.' The causes include:
a. The actions of the federal reserve
b. The sky-high Smoot-Hawley Tariff
c. The actions of Hoover that were continued by Roosevelt....on steroids/
d. And, mainly, the abject ineptitude of Roosevelt in every way except for that of changing America into a pale copy of Soviet Russia...In that endeavor, he was a success.


In 1935, the Brookings Institution (left-leaning) delivered a 900-page report on the New Deal and the National Recovery Administration, concluding that “ on the whole it retarded recovery.”
http://www.aei.org/article/26390

And that's only the damage caused by domestic policies!!




3. For a number of reasons....personal reasons, as Franklin Roosevelt, C+ student, and failed businessman, wasn't smart enough to incorporate an understanding of ideology into his actions....FDR had a case of 'love at first sight' toward the pathological murderer, Joseph 'Koba' Stalin.

a. He did what no earlier President or Sec'y of State would consider doing, he embraced and gave recognition to the blood drenched Bolshevik USSR, just months into his first term as President.
But he went further....he tainted the entire United States political apparatus by welcoming Soviet Spies, and apologists for every communist atrocity into high positions.

Hence, the title of this thread.




4. Neither astute, nor personally honest, Roosevelt sought out yes-men as advisers. He often picked those who had experience in the administration of the earlier Progressive President....one who as equally racist as he was, Woodrow Wilson.
He looked for those with the same affection for communism, and Stalin, as he did.

And that's what you will find proven in this thread.
I have, particularly, this man in mind....Joseph Davies, Roosevelt's man in Moscow.




Every word in this thread is not only accurate and correct...but was hidden from the unquestioning public....for obvious political reasons: America has been manipulated to side with the anti-America Left....FDR, Stalin, Obama, et al.


Read on....

The truth is out there but what we accept as history is usually based on pop junk and editorials and there is nothing that FDR would have done that wasn't justified by the media. Imagine rounding up Muslems who were American citizens and forcing them to sell their possessions and property and locking them up behind razor wire and armed guard towers without due process. The executive order signed by FDR didn't even make sense unless you consider that the intent was to steal the property of Japanese citizens in order to enrich FDR real estate speculators. Modern science has determined that it's likely that FDR did not suffer from polio but had a more serious disease that might have caused a series of strokes and possible dementia. His medical records disappeared shortly after he died and the media wasn't even curious.

In addition, the incarcerations were politically motivated. FDR got to appear "tough".

 

[Rustic]

There are still people in the USA who celebrate Joseph McCarthy's birthday as a HOLY DAY. I grew up in a
town of McCarthyism Jihadists

And???


What's your point, that we should protect the communists?

Really?

lol, what communists? You think everyone to the left of Rush Limbaugh is a communist.

Progressives are all fucked up in the head, their socialism worship reveals the real sacks of shit they are... lol

 

[WheelieAddict]

Voters hated Hoover and his attempts to solve the Great Depression, yet loved what FDR did....All the threads from Polislick can't change that fact.....

It's quite amusing really. Thread after thread trying to rewrite history. It will never work.

 

[Camp]

2. Then Roosevelt turned a recession into a 'Great Depression.' The causes include:
.

This is the normal kind of dishonesty and method used by the poster. She plants seeds of misinformation that may seem small, but are in fact very significant in shaping her overall thesis. In this case and example, she is attempting to place the causes and blame of the Great Depression on FDR and make it appear that he created it instead of the true fact that he inherited it. It began years before he came into office in 1933 with the stock market crash of 1929 and the forced closure of thousands of banks that could not pay those who had deposited money in those thousands of banks. One-fourth of the population was unemployed when FDR took office, but the OP does not want the reader to recognize that the Great Depression began long before FDR came into the picture. It is easy enough to confirm when the Great Depression began. You don't have to read a lot. Just look it up and see what date is given as the beginning or start of it. Then, look up FDR and notice the date of his first term in office. Four years difference. The Great Depression was in full swing for four years before FDR got the chance to turn it around, which is what he did.

"Henry Morgenthau Jr."
was the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury during the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt. He played a major role in designing and financing the New Deal.


"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong … somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot"

Henry Morgenthau Jr. - Wikipedia.

Morgenthau was wrong about the unemployment numbers. He subscribed to a method of calculating that did not include the millions working and collecting paychecks from New Deal programs. All those workers collecting paychecks for constructing bridges, highways, hospitals, schools, airports, bridges, tunnels and other infrastructure were counted as "on relief" because their paychecks were from government agencies or contracts. The thousands of little brick post offices still being used today all across America were built by "unemployed workers" if Morgenthau's method of calculating is used. The method Morgenthau used only counted those unemployed from private industry. That method meant that if person got a job building the Lincoln Tunnel or the Golden Gate Bridge, a dam in the TVA system or the Blue Ridge Parkway instead of a factory, they were unemployed.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Voters hated Hoover and his attempts to solve the Great Depression, yet loved what FDR did....All the threads from Polislick can't change that fact.....

It's quite amusing really. Thread after thread trying to rewrite history. It will never work.

I told you, you are dismissed.

You've served your purpose....and now you've returned to look even dumber????

Where is the re-write of history?

Everything I post is linked, sourced and documented.


What 'facts' have I changed?


Take your time.

 

[PoliticalChic]

2. Then Roosevelt turned a recession into a 'Great Depression.' The causes include:
.

This is the normal kind of dishonesty and method used by the poster. She plants seeds of misinformation that may seem small, but are in fact very significant in shaping her overall thesis. In this case and example, she is attempting to place the causes and blame of the Great Depression on FDR and make it appear that he created it instead of the true fact that he inherited it. It began years before he came into office in 1933 with the stock market crash of 1929 and the forced closure of thousands of banks that could not pay those who had deposited money in those thousands of banks. One-fourth of the population was unemployed when FDR took office, but the OP does not want the reader to recognize that the Great Depression began long before FDR came into the picture. It is easy enough to confirm when the Great Depression began. You don't have to read a lot. Just look it up and see what date is given as the beginning or start of it. Then, look up FDR and notice the date of his first term in office. Four years difference. The Great Depression was in full swing for four years before FDR got the chance to turn it around, which is what he did.

"Henry Morgenthau Jr."
was the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury during the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt. He played a major role in designing and financing the New Deal.


"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong … somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot"

Henry Morgenthau Jr. - Wikipedia.

Morgenthau was wrong about the unemployment numbers. He subscribed to a method of calculating that did not include the millions working and collecting paychecks from New Deal programs. All those workers collecting paychecks for constructing bridges, highways, hospitals, schools, airports, bridges, tunnels and other infrastructure were counted as "on relief" because their paychecks were from government agencies or contracts. The thousands of little brick post offices still being used today all across America were built by "unemployed workers" if Morgenthau's method of calculating is used. The method Morgenthau used only counted those unemployed from private industry. That method meant that if person got a job building the Lincoln Tunnel or the Golden Gate Bridge, a dam in the TVA system or the Blue Ridge Parkway instead of a factory, they were unemployed.

"Morgenthau was wrong..."


"Henry Morgenthau Jr. (/ˈmɔːrɡənθɔː/; May 11, 1891 – February 6, 1967) was the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury during the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt. He played a major role in designing and financing the New Deal. After 1937, while still in charge of the Treasury, he played the central role in financing US participation in World War II.[1] He also played an increasingly major role in shaping foreign policy,..."
Henry Morgenthau Jr. - Wikipedia.


Oh...but you know more than Morgenthau????????


I rest my case.

 

[PoliticalChic]

8. One after another independent adviser warned Roosevelt, told him the truth about communism, Stalin, and the Soviet Union....he couldn't care less.



As one might expect, the 'stain,' the indelible Red stain, lasted long after Roosevelt's four terms.



Harry Truman remained in Rooseveltian pro-Soviet mode at first....but was changed as he learned the truth.

a. June 4, 1945, in a 15-minute meeting with General Carter W. Clarke, and Colonel Ernest Gibson, of Army intelligence, Truman was informed about army codebreakers working on secret cables sent from Moscow to Washington- the Venona decrypts.
"Sacred Secrets: How Soviet Intelligence Operations Changed American History," p. 111, Leona Schecter and Jerrold Schecter



b. President Harry S. Truman signed United States Executive Order 9835, sometimes known as the "Loyalty Order", on March 22, 1947.[1] The order established the first general loyalty program in the United States, designed to root out communist influence in the U.S. federal government. Truman aimed to rally public opinion behind his Cold War policies with investigations conducted under its authority. He also hoped to quiet right-wing critics who accused Democrats of being soft on communism. Executive Order 9835 - Wikipedia




Neither FDR nor Joseph Davies ever learned....or admitted the truth.
It was only through Divine intervention that Truman became the vice president before FDR passed on....or Stalin's stooge, Henry Wallace would have been President.

The American public has squandered the opportunity to be what the Founders envisioned.

 

[Grizz]

2. Then Roosevelt turned a recession into a 'Great Depression.' The causes include:
.

This is the normal kind of dishonesty and method used by the poster. She plants seeds of misinformation that may seem small, but are in fact very significant in shaping her overall thesis. In this case and example, she is attempting to place the causes and blame of the Great Depression on FDR and make it appear that he created it instead of the true fact that he inherited it. It began years before he came into office in 1933 with the stock market crash of 1929 and the forced closure of thousands of banks that could not pay those who had deposited money in those thousands of banks. One-fourth of the population was unemployed when FDR took office, but the OP does not want the reader to recognize that the Great Depression began long before FDR came into the picture. It is easy enough to confirm when the Great Depression began. You don't have to read a lot. Just look it up and see what date is given as the beginning or start of it. Then, look up FDR and notice the date of his first term in office. Four years difference. The Great Depression was in full swing for four years before FDR got the chance to turn it around, which is what he did.

"Henry Morgenthau Jr."
was the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury during the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt. He played a major role in designing and financing the New Deal.


"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong … somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot"

Henry Morgenthau Jr. - Wikipedia.

Morgenthau was wrong about the unemployment numbers. He subscribed to a method of calculating that did not include the millions working and collecting paychecks from New Deal programs. All those workers collecting paychecks for constructing bridges, highways, hospitals, schools, airports, bridges, tunnels and other infrastructure were counted as "on relief" because their paychecks were from government agencies or contracts. The thousands of little brick post offices still being used today all across America were built by "unemployed workers" if Morgenthau's method of calculating is used. The method Morgenthau used only counted those unemployed from private industry. That method meant that if person got a job building the Lincoln Tunnel or the Golden Gate Bridge, a dam in the TVA system or the Blue Ridge Parkway instead of a factory, they were unemployed.

With all due respect I'll take the word of a man who was there and helped orchestrate the policies over the opinions of those who feel the need to use revisionist history try and paint a better picture of their failed idols.

 

[NYcarbineer]

"Hidden history"? Given that the OP has done 20 threads on this same topic, I'd hardly call it hidden.

 

[Grizz]

2. Then Roosevelt turned a recession into a 'Great Depression.' The causes include:
.

This is the normal kind of dishonesty and method used by the poster. She plants seeds of misinformation that may seem small, but are in fact very significant in shaping her overall thesis. In this case and example, she is attempting to place the causes and blame of the Great Depression on FDR and make it appear that he created it instead of the true fact that he inherited it. It began years before he came into office in 1933 with the stock market crash of 1929 and the forced closure of thousands of banks that could not pay those who had deposited money in those thousands of banks. One-fourth of the population was unemployed when FDR took office, but the OP does not want the reader to recognize that the Great Depression began long before FDR came into the picture. It is easy enough to confirm when the Great Depression began. You don't have to read a lot. Just look it up and see what date is given as the beginning or start of it. Then, look up FDR and notice the date of his first term in office. Four years difference. The Great Depression was in full swing for four years before FDR got the chance to turn it around, which is what he did.

"Henry Morgenthau Jr."
was the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury during the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt. He played a major role in designing and financing the New Deal.


"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong … somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot"

Henry Morgenthau Jr. - Wikipedia.

Morgenthau was wrong about the unemployment numbers. He subscribed to a method of calculating that did not include the millions working and collecting paychecks from New Deal programs. All those workers collecting paychecks for constructing bridges, highways, hospitals, schools, airports, bridges, tunnels and other infrastructure were counted as "on relief" because their paychecks were from government agencies or contracts. The thousands of little brick post offices still being used today all across America were built by "unemployed workers" if Morgenthau's method of calculating is used. The method Morgenthau used only counted those unemployed from private industry. That method meant that if person got a job building the Lincoln Tunnel or the Golden Gate Bridge, a dam in the TVA system or the Blue Ridge Parkway instead of a factory, they were unemployed.

"Morgenthau was wrong..."


"Henry Morgenthau Jr. (/ˈmɔːrɡənθɔː/; May 11, 1891 – February 6, 1967) was the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury during the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt. He played a major role in designing and financing the New Deal. After 1937, while still in charge of the Treasury, he played the central role in financing US participation in World War II.[1] He also played an increasingly major role in shaping foreign policy,..."
Henry Morgenthau Jr. - Wikipedia.


Oh...but you know more than Morgenthau????????


I rest my case.

The Left always does this. Revisionism is their favorite tool when their sacred cows get knocked over.
The Right does it too, we are ALL entitled to our own opinions but NOUR our own "facts".

 

[NYcarbineer]

2. Then Roosevelt turned a recession into a 'Great Depression.' The causes include:
.

This is the normal kind of dishonesty and method used by the poster. She plants seeds of misinformation that may seem small, but are in fact very significant in shaping her overall thesis. In this case and example, she is attempting to place the causes and blame of the Great Depression on FDR and make it appear that he created it instead of the true fact that he inherited it. It began years before he came into office in 1933 with the stock market crash of 1929 and the forced closure of thousands of banks that could not pay those who had deposited money in those thousands of banks. One-fourth of the population was unemployed when FDR took office, but the OP does not want the reader to recognize that the Great Depression began long before FDR came into the picture. It is easy enough to confirm when the Great Depression began. You don't have to read a lot. Just look it up and see what date is given as the beginning or start of it. Then, look up FDR and notice the date of his first term in office. Four years difference. The Great Depression was in full swing for four years before FDR got the chance to turn it around, which is what he did.

"Henry Morgenthau Jr."
was the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury during the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt. He played a major role in designing and financing the New Deal.


"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong … somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot"

Henry Morgenthau Jr. - Wikipedia.

Morgenthau was wrong about the unemployment numbers. He subscribed to a method of calculating that did not include the millions working and collecting paychecks from New Deal programs. All those workers collecting paychecks for constructing bridges, highways, hospitals, schools, airports, bridges, tunnels and other infrastructure were counted as "on relief" because their paychecks were from government agencies or contracts. The thousands of little brick post offices still being used today all across America were built by "unemployed workers" if Morgenthau's method of calculating is used. The method Morgenthau used only counted those unemployed from private industry. That method meant that if person got a job building the Lincoln Tunnel or the Golden Gate Bridge, a dam in the TVA system or the Blue Ridge Parkway instead of a factory, they were unemployed.

With all due respect I'll take the word of a man who was there and helped orchestrate the policies over the opinions of those who feel the need to use revisionist history try and paint a better picture of their failed idols.

Unemployment in the Great Depression peaked in FDR's FIRST year, 1933, a year btw that FDR wasn't president until March.

 

[PoliticalChic]

2. Then Roosevelt turned a recession into a 'Great Depression.' The causes include:
.

This is the normal kind of dishonesty and method used by the poster. She plants seeds of misinformation that may seem small, but are in fact very significant in shaping her overall thesis. In this case and example, she is attempting to place the causes and blame of the Great Depression on FDR and make it appear that he created it instead of the true fact that he inherited it. It began years before he came into office in 1933 with the stock market crash of 1929 and the forced closure of thousands of banks that could not pay those who had deposited money in those thousands of banks. One-fourth of the population was unemployed when FDR took office, but the OP does not want the reader to recognize that the Great Depression began long before FDR came into the picture. It is easy enough to confirm when the Great Depression began. You don't have to read a lot. Just look it up and see what date is given as the beginning or start of it. Then, look up FDR and notice the date of his first term in office. Four years difference. The Great Depression was in full swing for four years before FDR got the chance to turn it around, which is what he did.

"Henry Morgenthau Jr."
was the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury during the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt. He played a major role in designing and financing the New Deal.


"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong … somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot"

Henry Morgenthau Jr. - Wikipedia.

Morgenthau was wrong about the unemployment numbers. He subscribed to a method of calculating that did not include the millions working and collecting paychecks from New Deal programs. All those workers collecting paychecks for constructing bridges, highways, hospitals, schools, airports, bridges, tunnels and other infrastructure were counted as "on relief" because their paychecks were from government agencies or contracts. The thousands of little brick post offices still being used today all across America were built by "unemployed workers" if Morgenthau's method of calculating is used. The method Morgenthau used only counted those unemployed from private industry. That method meant that if person got a job building the Lincoln Tunnel or the Golden Gate Bridge, a dam in the TVA system or the Blue Ridge Parkway instead of a factory, they were unemployed.

"Morgenthau was wrong..."


"Henry Morgenthau Jr. (/ˈmɔːrɡənθɔː/; May 11, 1891 – February 6, 1967) was the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury during the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt. He played a major role in designing and financing the New Deal. After 1937, while still in charge of the Treasury, he played the central role in financing US participation in World War II.[1] He also played an increasingly major role in shaping foreign policy,..."
Henry Morgenthau Jr. - Wikipedia.


Oh...but you know more than Morgenthau????????


I rest my case.

The Left always does this. Revisionism is their favorite tool when their sacred cows get knocked over.
The Right does it too, we are ALL entitled to our own opinions but NOUR our own "facts".

It is the consequence of their taking control of the dissemination of information...

1. The radicals of the sixties did not remain within the universities…They realized that the apocalypse never materialized. “…they were dropping off into environmentalism and consumerism and fatalism…I watched many of my old comrades apply to graduate school in universities they had failed to burn down, so they could get advanced degrees and spread the ideas that had been discredited in the streets under an academic cover.” Collier and Horowitz, “Destructive Generation: Second Thoughts About The Sixties,” p. 294-295.
2. “The radicals were not likely to go into business or the conventional practice of the professions. They were part of the chattering class, talkers interested in policy, politics, culture. They went into politics, print and electronic journalism, church bureaucracies, foundation staffs, Hollywood careers, public interest organizations, anywhere attitudes and opinions could be influenced. And they are exerting influence.” Robert H. Bork, “Slouching Toward Gomorrah,” p. 51
3. “[The radicals] did not go away or change their minds; the New Left shattered into a multitude of single-issue groups. We now have, to name a few, radical feminists, black extremists, animal rights groups, radical environmentalists, activist homosexual organizations, multiculturalists, organizations such as People for the American Way, the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL), the National Organization for Women (NOW), and Planned Parenthood.” Ibid p. 53

Too late, I feel....to get the country back.

 

[Camp]

Voters hated Hoover and his attempts to solve the Great Depression, yet loved what FDR did....All the threads from Polislick can't change that fact.....

It's quite amusing really. Thread after thread trying to rewrite history. It will never work.

I told you, you are dismissed.

You've served your purpose....and now you've returned to look even dumber????

Where is the re-write of history?

Everything I post is linked, sourced and documented.


What 'facts' have I changed?


Take your time.

You lied about FDR being responsible for starting the Great Depression.

 

[Grizz]

2. Then Roosevelt turned a recession into a 'Great Depression.' The causes include:
.

This is the normal kind of dishonesty and method used by the poster. She plants seeds of misinformation that may seem small, but are in fact very significant in shaping her overall thesis. In this case and example, she is attempting to place the causes and blame of the Great Depression on FDR and make it appear that he created it instead of the true fact that he inherited it. It began years before he came into office in 1933 with the stock market crash of 1929 and the forced closure of thousands of banks that could not pay those who had deposited money in those thousands of banks. One-fourth of the population was unemployed when FDR took office, but the OP does not want the reader to recognize that the Great Depression began long before FDR came into the picture. It is easy enough to confirm when the Great Depression began. You don't have to read a lot. Just look it up and see what date is given as the beginning or start of it. Then, look up FDR and notice the date of his first term in office. Four years difference. The Great Depression was in full swing for four years before FDR got the chance to turn it around, which is what he did.

"Henry Morgenthau Jr."
was the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury during the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt. He played a major role in designing and financing the New Deal.


"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong … somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot"

Henry Morgenthau Jr. - Wikipedia.

Morgenthau was wrong about the unemployment numbers. He subscribed to a method of calculating that did not include the millions working and collecting paychecks from New Deal programs. All those workers collecting paychecks for constructing bridges, highways, hospitals, schools, airports, bridges, tunnels and other infrastructure were counted as "on relief" because their paychecks were from government agencies or contracts. The thousands of little brick post offices still being used today all across America were built by "unemployed workers" if Morgenthau's method of calculating is used. The method Morgenthau used only counted those unemployed from private industry. That method meant that if person got a job building the Lincoln Tunnel or the Golden Gate Bridge, a dam in the TVA system or the Blue Ridge Parkway instead of a factory, they were unemployed.

With all due respect I'll take the word of a man who was there and helped orchestrate the policies over the opinions of those who feel the need to use revisionist history try and paint a better picture of their failed idols.

Unemployment in the Great Depression peaked in FDR's FIRST year, 1933, a year btw that FDR wasn't president until March.

LOL, not the point now is it? I know that you are trying to deflect but that does 't work with me.

"I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started"

 

[depotoo]

His is less damning than Hillary's

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

So Trump's adoration of Putin is some sort of tribute to Roosevelt?

lol

 

[Camp]

2. Then Roosevelt turned a recession into a 'Great Depression.' The causes include:
.

This is the normal kind of dishonesty and method used by the poster. She plants seeds of misinformation that may seem small, but are in fact very significant in shaping her overall thesis. In this case and example, she is attempting to place the causes and blame of the Great Depression on FDR and make it appear that he created it instead of the true fact that he inherited it. It began years before he came into office in 1933 with the stock market crash of 1929 and the forced closure of thousands of banks that could not pay those who had deposited money in those thousands of banks. One-fourth of the population was unemployed when FDR took office, but the OP does not want the reader to recognize that the Great Depression began long before FDR came into the picture. It is easy enough to confirm when the Great Depression began. You don't have to read a lot. Just look it up and see what date is given as the beginning or start of it. Then, look up FDR and notice the date of his first term in office. Four years difference. The Great Depression was in full swing for four years before FDR got the chance to turn it around, which is what he did.

"Henry Morgenthau Jr."
was the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury during the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt. He played a major role in designing and financing the New Deal.


"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong … somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot"

Henry Morgenthau Jr. - Wikipedia.

Morgenthau was wrong about the unemployment numbers. He subscribed to a method of calculating that did not include the millions working and collecting paychecks from New Deal programs. All those workers collecting paychecks for constructing bridges, highways, hospitals, schools, airports, bridges, tunnels and other infrastructure were counted as "on relief" because their paychecks were from government agencies or contracts. The thousands of little brick post offices still being used today all across America were built by "unemployed workers" if Morgenthau's method of calculating is used. The method Morgenthau used only counted those unemployed from private industry. That method meant that if person got a job building the Lincoln Tunnel or the Golden Gate Bridge, a dam in the TVA system or the Blue Ridge Parkway instead of a factory, they were unemployed.

With all due respect I'll take the word of a man who was there and helped orchestrate the policies over the opinions of those who feel the need to use revisionist history try and paint a better picture of their failed idols.

Unemployment in the Great Depression peaked in FDR's FIRST year, 1933, a year btw that FDR wasn't president until March.

Over 5,000 banks had been forced into closure before FDR became President, leaving the depositors broke and unable to retrieve their funds.

 

[Moonglow]

Voters hated Hoover and his attempts to solve the Great Depression, yet loved what FDR did....All the threads from Polislick can't change that fact.....

I don't see any denial in your post, of the facts that I presented:

1. There were dozens of earlier recessions....they lasted 1-3 years.

2. Only through FDR's tireless efforts do we find a decade long Depression.

And....other nations came out of the Depression earlier for the simple reason that they didn't have FDR in the driver's seat.

3. The best explanation is that Roosevelt wanted to keep the Depression going....so he could end the guidance of the Constitution.


And you say?

The redundancy of your futile efforts to try and prove that humans are perfect is a great example for all the administrations....And another thing, hindsight is 20-20....When walking in the present one or many must take a step on a calculated risk, which is more difficult..The country loved FDR and what he was trying to do to help the working American.......The end result was one of winning a war on two fronts, a most august and honorable action....And it was done by the imperfect person you try to degrade, which will never stick to the American psyche today....Because love is greater than hate...and the glory associated with it smothers the imperfection...FDR will retain his number one ranking among American presidents because that is where he belongs,, although I believe that George Washington deserves it...

 

[NYcarbineer]

The OP in her extremism thinks Social Security is Communism, so it's not hard to see how she comes up with all these demented FDR-Stalin comparisons.

 

[NYcarbineer]

This is the normal kind of dishonesty and method used by the poster. She plants seeds of misinformation that may seem small, but are in fact very significant in shaping her overall thesis. In this case and example, she is attempting to place the causes and blame of the Great Depression on FDR and make it appear that he created it instead of the true fact that he inherited it. It began years before he came into office in 1933 with the stock market crash of 1929 and the forced closure of thousands of banks that could not pay those who had deposited money in those thousands of banks. One-fourth of the population was unemployed when FDR took office, but the OP does not want the reader to recognize that the Great Depression began long before FDR came into the picture. It is easy enough to confirm when the Great Depression began. You don't have to read a lot. Just look it up and see what date is given as the beginning or start of it. Then, look up FDR and notice the date of his first term in office. Four years difference. The Great Depression was in full swing for four years before FDR got the chance to turn it around, which is what he did.

"Henry Morgenthau Jr."
was the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury during the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt. He played a major role in designing and financing the New Deal.


"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong … somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot"

Henry Morgenthau Jr. - Wikipedia.

Morgenthau was wrong about the unemployment numbers. He subscribed to a method of calculating that did not include the millions working and collecting paychecks from New Deal programs. All those workers collecting paychecks for constructing bridges, highways, hospitals, schools, airports, bridges, tunnels and other infrastructure were counted as "on relief" because their paychecks were from government agencies or contracts. The thousands of little brick post offices still being used today all across America were built by "unemployed workers" if Morgenthau's method of calculating is used. The method Morgenthau used only counted those unemployed from private industry. That method meant that if person got a job building the Lincoln Tunnel or the Golden Gate Bridge, a dam in the TVA system or the Blue Ridge Parkway instead of a factory, they were unemployed.

With all due respect I'll take the word of a man who was there and helped orchestrate the policies over the opinions of those who feel the need to use revisionist history try and paint a better picture of their failed idols.

Unemployment in the Great Depression peaked in FDR's FIRST year, 1933, a year btw that FDR wasn't president until March.

LOL, not the point now is it? I know that you are trying to deflect but that does 't work with me.

"I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started"

What was the unemployment rate in 1940 then?