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No you don't.So you think sending peopel to jail is OK even if they could have no way of knowing the sale was illegal? Nice. Letting your inner Stalin hang out there, Nutjobber.Not my problemOK so we're going to send people to jail for acts they did even if they had no idea it was illegal. Works for me, Comrade!Doesn't matter
You sell a gun to a criminal, you belong in jail
You sell weapons to criminals, you belong in jail. What do you want? sympathy?
Yes I do
You need to find out if he is a criminal, get his information and get him cleared by the local police department. Otherwise, insist your state institute gun owner licenses so you can record his license number before you sell him a gun
Protects you doesn't it? Beats selling your gun to a criminal
nope...you would need a registration process to know if the guy you were selling to was licensed...no deal. and the guy buying the gun...knows if he can do it legally, and when you catch him with a gun he can't have...you can already arrest him.
we are not agents of the state, it is not our job to do background checks on other people. the police can arrest them in possession of the gun if he can't have it...that is all we need.
Compared to the rest of the civilized world, no we are not safeObama, Hillary Clinton Speak Out on Gun Violence After Virginia TV Shootings
Good to see Hillary isn't above using the blood of innocents to push her mindless agenda.
Tell us: what "preventive measures" would have stopped this crime?
Surely, you're smart enough and compassionate enough, to figure it out. Right?
Stop it? Probably not
We are a second amendment nation. We have 300 million guns ready for you to resolve any grievance or conflict you may have. We are also a nation raised in a gun culture. Cowboys shooting it out in the street. Gangsters spraying machine guns.
Pissed at your boss? Heres a gun
Had it with your wife? Heres a gun
Guy cut you off in traffic? Heres a gun
Want to kill a bunch of first graders? Heres an AR-15
We need to admit that we prefer being an armed society than a safe society. People getting killed is a price we willingly pay
We are a safe society…..as long as you stay away from democrat controlled urban centers. Also, our gun murder rate is going down, not up since more people own guns and carry them for self defense…..as usual, you are wrong, again. You are a dumb person.
No other country comes close to the murders, massacres or assassinations we have endured thanks to our second amendment rights
but they have exceeded us in the mass murder of unarmed civilians....and in the modern countries of Europe, not 3rd world shit holes......they handed over 12 million innocent people to be murdered, far more than our criminals do each year......
Your same old tired argument
Based around your fantasy of armed civilians being able to fight off the Nazi army. How about you point to a single instance in all of Europe where armed civilians were successful in fighting the Nazis.
Want to know what really happened to armed resistance? Nazis rounded them up, killed them, killed their families and even destroyed whole towns where civilians were resisting
No you don't.So you think sending peopel to jail is OK even if they could have no way of knowing the sale was illegal? Nice. Letting your inner Stalin hang out there, Nutjobber.Not my problemOK so we're going to send people to jail for acts they did even if they had no idea it was illegal. Works for me, Comrade!
You sell weapons to criminals, you belong in jail. What do you want? sympathy?
Yes I do
You need to find out if he is a criminal, get his information and get him cleared by the local police department. Otherwise, insist your state institute gun owner licenses so you can record his license number before you sell him a gun
Protects you doesn't it? Beats selling your gun to a criminal
nope...you would need a registration process to know if the guy you were selling to was licensed...no deal. and the guy buying the gun...knows if he can do it legally, and when you catch him with a gun he can't have...you can already arrest him.
we are not agents of the state, it is not our job to do background checks on other people. the police can arrest them in possession of the gun if he can't have it...that is all we need.
Have a registration you can go, give your license number and photo ID and buy a gun from a store or private party
Don't have one and you have to go through the local police department and maybe wait a day or two
Your gun.....YOUR responsibility you are not selling to a criminal. If you do, go to jail
No you don't.So you think sending peopel to jail is OK even if they could have no way of knowing the sale was illegal? Nice. Letting your inner Stalin hang out there, Nutjobber.Not my problemOK so we're going to send people to jail for acts they did even if they had no idea it was illegal. Works for me, Comrade!
You sell weapons to criminals, you belong in jail. What do you want? sympathy?
Yes I do
You need to find out if he is a criminal, get his information and get him cleared by the local police department. Otherwise, insist your state institute gun owner licenses so you can record his license number before you sell him a gun
Protects you doesn't it? Beats selling your gun to a criminal
nope...you would need a registration process to know if the guy you were selling to was licensed...no deal. and the guy buying the gun...knows if he can do it legally, and when you catch him with a gun he can't have...you can already arrest him.
we are not agents of the state, it is not our job to do background checks on other people. the police can arrest them in possession of the gun if he can't have it...that is all we need.
Have a registration you can go, give your license number and photo ID and buy a gun from a store or private party
Don't have one and you have to go through the local police department and maybe wait a day or two
Your gun.....YOUR responsibility you are not selling to a criminal. If you do, go to jail
Good god....your fantasies continueCompared to the rest of the civilized world, no we are not safeStop it? Probably not
We are a second amendment nation. We have 300 million guns ready for you to resolve any grievance or conflict you may have. We are also a nation raised in a gun culture. Cowboys shooting it out in the street. Gangsters spraying machine guns.
Pissed at your boss? Heres a gun
Had it with your wife? Heres a gun
Guy cut you off in traffic? Heres a gun
Want to kill a bunch of first graders? Heres an AR-15
We need to admit that we prefer being an armed society than a safe society. People getting killed is a price we willingly pay
We are a safe society…..as long as you stay away from democrat controlled urban centers. Also, our gun murder rate is going down, not up since more people own guns and carry them for self defense…..as usual, you are wrong, again. You are a dumb person.
No other country comes close to the murders, massacres or assassinations we have endured thanks to our second amendment rights
but they have exceeded us in the mass murder of unarmed civilians....and in the modern countries of Europe, not 3rd world shit holes......they handed over 12 million innocent people to be murdered, far more than our criminals do each year......
Your same old tired argument
Based around your fantasy of armed civilians being able to fight off the Nazi army. How about you point to a single instance in all of Europe where armed civilians were successful in fighting the Nazis.
Want to know what really happened to armed resistance? Nazis rounded them up, killed them, killed their families and even destroyed whole towns where civilians were resisting
Switzerland....because the civilian population was so well armed and ready to fight, hitter moved on to other targets....
why did they round them up......because their governments disarmed all of them after world War 1. the allies dropped single shot, smooth bore pistols behind the lines...made by General Motors, to try to help the resistance but it wasn't enough.
you trot out the nazis rounding up civilians.......and fail to realize those civilians were under your gun control schemes....and were murdered in the millions for it.......
France and Germany disarmed their civilians after World War 1 and France did it again after World War 2.
Your argument points out what happens when the law abiding are unarmed....
No it isn't. It authorizes you to purchase a gun. You don't want to get a gun license, go to the police and get a background checkNo you don't.So you think sending peopel to jail is OK even if they could have no way of knowing the sale was illegal? Nice. Letting your inner Stalin hang out there, Nutjobber.Not my problem
You sell weapons to criminals, you belong in jail. What do you want? sympathy?
Yes I do
You need to find out if he is a criminal, get his information and get him cleared by the local police department. Otherwise, insist your state institute gun owner licenses so you can record his license number before you sell him a gun
Protects you doesn't it? Beats selling your gun to a criminal
nope...you would need a registration process to know if the guy you were selling to was licensed...no deal. and the guy buying the gun...knows if he can do it legally, and when you catch him with a gun he can't have...you can already arrest him.
we are not agents of the state, it is not our job to do background checks on other people. the police can arrest them in possession of the gun if he can't have it...that is all we need.
Have a registration you can go, give your license number and photo ID and buy a gun from a store or private party
Don't have one and you have to go through the local police department and maybe wait a day or two
Your gun.....YOUR responsibility you are not selling to a criminal. If you do, go to jail
The only purpose of a registration is to order guns turned in...Audtralia and Britain and 1930s Germany show this........so no...no registration.
Good god....your fantasies continueCompared to the rest of the civilized world, no we are not safeWe are a safe society…..as long as you stay away from democrat controlled urban centers. Also, our gun murder rate is going down, not up since more people own guns and carry them for self defense…..as usual, you are wrong, again. You are a dumb person.
No other country comes close to the murders, massacres or assassinations we have endured thanks to our second amendment rights
but they have exceeded us in the mass murder of unarmed civilians....and in the modern countries of Europe, not 3rd world shit holes......they handed over 12 million innocent people to be murdered, far more than our criminals do each year......
Your same old tired argument
Based around your fantasy of armed civilians being able to fight off the Nazi army. How about you point to a single instance in all of Europe where armed civilians were successful in fighting the Nazis.
Want to know what really happened to armed resistance? Nazis rounded them up, killed them, killed their families and even destroyed whole towns where civilians were resisting
Switzerland....because the civilian population was so well armed and ready to fight, hitter moved on to other targets....
why did they round them up......because their governments disarmed all of them after world War 1. the allies dropped single shot, smooth bore pistols behind the lines...made by General Motors, to try to help the resistance but it wasn't enough.
you trot out the nazis rounding up civilians.......and fail to realize those civilians were under your gun control schemes....and were murdered in the millions for it.......
France and Germany disarmed their civilians after World War 1 and France did it again after World War 2.
Your argument points out what happens when the law abiding are unarmed....
Hitler was not afraid to attack the Soviet Union where he lost seven million soldiers.....but he was afraid of Switzerland because the civilians had guns.
The Soviets had air power, tanks, artillery, machine guns
But Hitler was afraid of the Swiss
No it isn't. It authorizes you to purchase a gun. You don't want to get a gun license, go to the police and get a background checkNo you don't.So you think sending peopel to jail is OK even if they could have no way of knowing the sale was illegal? Nice. Letting your inner Stalin hang out there, Nutjobber.
Yes I do
You need to find out if he is a criminal, get his information and get him cleared by the local police department. Otherwise, insist your state institute gun owner licenses so you can record his license number before you sell him a gun
Protects you doesn't it? Beats selling your gun to a criminal
nope...you would need a registration process to know if the guy you were selling to was licensed...no deal. and the guy buying the gun...knows if he can do it legally, and when you catch him with a gun he can't have...you can already arrest him.
we are not agents of the state, it is not our job to do background checks on other people. the police can arrest them in possession of the gun if he can't have it...that is all we need.
Have a registration you can go, give your license number and photo ID and buy a gun from a store or private party
Don't have one and you have to go through the local police department and maybe wait a day or two
Your gun.....YOUR responsibility you are not selling to a criminal. If you do, go to jail
The only purpose of a registration is to order guns turned in...Audtralia and Britain and 1930s Germany show this........so no...no registration.
I register my car every year and nobody has tried to confiscate it yet
No it isn't. It authorizes you to purchase a gun. You don't want to get a gun license, go to the police and get a background checkNo you don't.So you think sending peopel to jail is OK even if they could have no way of knowing the sale was illegal? Nice. Letting your inner Stalin hang out there, Nutjobber.
Yes I do
You need to find out if he is a criminal, get his information and get him cleared by the local police department. Otherwise, insist your state institute gun owner licenses so you can record his license number before you sell him a gun
Protects you doesn't it? Beats selling your gun to a criminal
nope...you would need a registration process to know if the guy you were selling to was licensed...no deal. and the guy buying the gun...knows if he can do it legally, and when you catch him with a gun he can't have...you can already arrest him.
we are not agents of the state, it is not our job to do background checks on other people. the police can arrest them in possession of the gun if he can't have it...that is all we need.
Have a registration you can go, give your license number and photo ID and buy a gun from a store or private party
Don't have one and you have to go through the local police department and maybe wait a day or two
Your gun.....YOUR responsibility you are not selling to a criminal. If you do, go to jail
The only purpose of a registration is to order guns turned in...Audtralia and Britain and 1930s Germany show this........so no...no registration.
I register my car every year and nobody has tried to confiscate it yet
Doesn't matterBackground checks apply to gun shows, Nutwinger. Really.We have background checks idiot. They don't work.
Especially when they don't apply to private sales or gun shows
I love it when gun nuts insist on exceptions and loopholes to the laws and then use those exceptions as proof that the laws don't work
And how do you propose to stop private sales between two criminals?
Easy
If I find Rabbi has sold a gun to a criminal who should not have a weapon, I send Rabbi to jail
It wouldn't save the life of the person he shot, would it dumb fuck?
You sell a gun to a criminal, you belong in jail
Not for secondary salesWe have background checks idiot. They don't work.
Especially when they don't apply to private sales or gun shows
I love it when gun nuts insist on exceptions and loopholes to the laws and then use those exceptions as proof that the laws don't work
You stupid stupid person. Gun shows do background checks, all of them. You haven't a clue as to what you are saying. Go play in the street idiot.
Gun show loophole - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Did you read that article you posted you stupid fuck? No you didn't.
Gun shows do background checks moron, your link doesn't say differently.
Now, go play in the street like I told you.
Evidently more fearsome than the Red Army with their tanks, aircraft and artilleryGood god....your fantasies continueCompared to the rest of the civilized world, no we are not safe
No other country comes close to the murders, massacres or assassinations we have endured thanks to our second amendment rights
but they have exceeded us in the mass murder of unarmed civilians....and in the modern countries of Europe, not 3rd world shit holes......they handed over 12 million innocent people to be murdered, far more than our criminals do each year......
Your same old tired argument
Based around your fantasy of armed civilians being able to fight off the Nazi army. How about you point to a single instance in all of Europe where armed civilians were successful in fighting the Nazis.
Want to know what really happened to armed resistance? Nazis rounded them up, killed them, killed their families and even destroyed whole towns where civilians were resisting
Switzerland....because the civilian population was so well armed and ready to fight, hitter moved on to other targets....
why did they round them up......because their governments disarmed all of them after world War 1. the allies dropped single shot, smooth bore pistols behind the lines...made by General Motors, to try to help the resistance but it wasn't enough.
you trot out the nazis rounding up civilians.......and fail to realize those civilians were under your gun control schemes....and were murdered in the millions for it.......
France and Germany disarmed their civilians after World War 1 and France did it again after World War 2.
Your argument points out what happens when the law abiding are unarmed....
Hitler was not afraid to attack the Soviet Union where he lost seven million soldiers.....but he was afraid of Switzerland because the civilians had guns.
The Soviets had air power, tanks, artillery, machine guns
But Hitler was afraid of the Swiss
the Swiss were to hard a nut to crack, and he needed his resources for
Russia....had they been unarmed, he would have gobbled them up.....like Belgium, and Norway...and the other countries who weren't armed as well as the Swiss....
How is making sure you don't sell weapons to criminals punishing you?You want to punish regular people who want to own a gun....that is all you want....more levels of government to trip them up so you can nail them to the wall when they make a mistake...
and the whole time, not one criminal will register one gun and all the mass shooters will get their gun license..and then go murder people...
Licensing and registration are stupid and pointless...unless you want to go after law abiding citizens...then they are magic...
And if I'm a criminal and dont really care who I sell it to? How do you prove I sold it to begin with?So you think sending peopel to jail is OK even if they could have no way of knowing the sale was illegal? Nice. Letting your inner Stalin hang out there, Nutjobber.Not my problemOK so we're going to send people to jail for acts they did even if they had no idea it was illegal. Works for me, Comrade!Doesn't matterIt wouldn't save the life of the person he shot, would it dumb fuck?
You sell a gun to a criminal, you belong in jail
You sell weapons to criminals, you belong in jail. What do you want? sympathy?
Yes I do
You need to find out if he is a criminal, get his information and get him cleared by the local police department. Otherwise, insist your state institute gun owner licenses so you can record his license number before you sell him a gun
Protects you doesn't it? Beats selling your gun to a criminal
Hitler did not want to invade Switzerland. The toll would be unacceptable for the gain of doing it.Good god....your fantasies continueCompared to the rest of the civilized world, no we are not safeWe are a safe society…..as long as you stay away from democrat controlled urban centers. Also, our gun murder rate is going down, not up since more people own guns and carry them for self defense…..as usual, you are wrong, again. You are a dumb person.
No other country comes close to the murders, massacres or assassinations we have endured thanks to our second amendment rights
but they have exceeded us in the mass murder of unarmed civilians....and in the modern countries of Europe, not 3rd world shit holes......they handed over 12 million innocent people to be murdered, far more than our criminals do each year......
Your same old tired argument
Based around your fantasy of armed civilians being able to fight off the Nazi army. How about you point to a single instance in all of Europe where armed civilians were successful in fighting the Nazis.
Want to know what really happened to armed resistance? Nazis rounded them up, killed them, killed their families and even destroyed whole towns where civilians were resisting
Switzerland....because the civilian population was so well armed and ready to fight, hitter moved on to other targets....
why did they round them up......because their governments disarmed all of them after world War 1. the allies dropped single shot, smooth bore pistols behind the lines...made by General Motors, to try to help the resistance but it wasn't enough.
you trot out the nazis rounding up civilians.......and fail to realize those civilians were under your gun control schemes....and were murdered in the millions for it.......
France and Germany disarmed their civilians after World War 1 and France did it again after World War 2.
Your argument points out what happens when the law abiding are unarmed....
Hitler was not afraid to attack the Soviet Union where he lost seven million soldiers.....but he was afraid of Switzerland because the civilians had guns.
The Soviets had air power, tanks, artillery, machine guns
But Hitler was afraid of the Swiss
Gee, it's already illegal to sell a gun to a prohibited person. I guess no prohibited people are able to buy guns then. Right?How is making sure you don't sell weapons to criminals punishing you?You want to punish regular people who want to own a gun....that is all you want....more levels of government to trip them up so you can nail them to the wall when they make a mistake...
and the whole time, not one criminal will register one gun and all the mass shooters will get their gun license..and then go murder people...
Licensing and registration are stupid and pointless...unless you want to go after law abiding citizens...then they are magic...
You would think you would not want one of your weapons to end up in the hands of a criminal and do everything in your power to stop it....but you don't give a shit
How is making sure you don't sell weapons to criminals punishing you?You want to punish regular people who want to own a gun....that is all you want....more levels of government to trip them up so you can nail them to the wall when they make a mistake...
and the whole time, not one criminal will register one gun and all the mass shooters will get their gun license..and then go murder people...
Licensing and registration are stupid and pointless...unless you want to go after law abiding citizens...then they are magic...
You would think you would not want one of your weapons to end up in the hands of a criminal and do everything in your power to stop it....but you don't give a shit
Note...The figures for accidental gun deaths with children isn't out yet but 2013….under the age of 14…about 72…..How many intruders or owould be attackers were shot or even scared away by guns last year vs kids accidentally shot?
Maybe its the media but I hear more of the latter anymore. Get me some stats please.
That is your best bet. Otherwise gun rights sounds like a lofty libersl college ideal base on a 240 yesr old war.
All accidental gun deaths in 2013… 505
All gun murders (including children) … 8,454
crimes stopped by law abiding citizens using guns… on average 2 million a year.
Even if that 2 million is off by 2 orders of magnitude...
20,000 crimes stopped compared to 9000 deaths.
I would not want it to be that close of a crime vs death ratio.
No it isn't. It authorizes you to purchase a gun. You don't want to get a gun license, go to the police and get a background checkNo you don't.So you think sending peopel to jail is OK even if they could have no way of knowing the sale was illegal? Nice. Letting your inner Stalin hang out there, Nutjobber.
Yes I do
You need to find out if he is a criminal, get his information and get him cleared by the local police department. Otherwise, insist your state institute gun owner licenses so you can record his license number before you sell him a gun
Protects you doesn't it? Beats selling your gun to a criminal
nope...you would need a registration process to know if the guy you were selling to was licensed...no deal. and the guy buying the gun...knows if he can do it legally, and when you catch him with a gun he can't have...you can already arrest him.
we are not agents of the state, it is not our job to do background checks on other people. the police can arrest them in possession of the gun if he can't have it...that is all we need.
Have a registration you can go, give your license number and photo ID and buy a gun from a store or private party
Don't have one and you have to go through the local police department and maybe wait a day or two
Your gun.....YOUR responsibility you are not selling to a criminal. If you do, go to jail
The only purpose of a registration is to order guns turned in...Audtralia and Britain and 1930s Germany show this........so no...no registration.
I register my car every year and nobody has tried to confiscate it yet
