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[edthecynic]

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Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence
September 05, 2011 4:55 pm ET by Matt Gertz

Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa, Jr. for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for "sanctioning violence against fellow Americans" by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn't calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress.

During the segment that the bloggers have latched onto, Fox edited out the bolded portion of Hoffa's comments:

HOFFA: Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize, let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong! Thank you very much!

In an initial report on Hoffa's speech at 1 p.m. on Fox News, Ed Henry reported that Hoffa said that "we'll remember in November who's with the working people" and "said of the Tea Party and of Republicans, 'let's take these sons of bitches out.'"



Henry made clear during that segment that Hoffa's comments were references to voting out Republican members of Congress, not to violence. And roughly 20 minutes later, he explained on Twitter that the "full quote" of the "take these son of a bitches out" comment is "Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back & keep the eye on the prize, let's take these sons of bitches out":



But in a second segment that ran at roughly the same time as Henry's tweet, Fox News dishonestly edited the speech in the manner seen above. Andrew Breitbart's Big sites, Real Clear Politics, The Daily Caller, the Media Research Center, and the Drudge Report have all highlighted that footage, using it to condemn "the violence emanating from union thug bosses" and demand that Obama "denounce" the comments.

Link- Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence | Media Matters for America


Another Pub circle jerk for the dupes- from media matters...

funny - - - - when gabby gifford was shot - communist demokrats and the communist media went nuts because PALIN had a map of districts she was trying to convert - WITH CROSS HAIRS on them !

this thug HOFFA calls tea party members - SONS OF BITCHES ! AND THE NEXT DAY NATIONAL GUARDSMEN GET SHOT !

THIS PIECE OF SHIT VICE PREZ WE HAVE CALLED TEA PARTY MEMBERS - " TERRORISTS " AND COMMUNIST RACIST MAXINE WATERS SAID THE " TEA PARTY CAN GO TO HELL " - NONE OF THESE REDS R BLAMED FOR THE KILLINGS AT IHOP

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I really don't think a politican no matter what party they belong to will get on national TV and tell people they need to beat up another group of people. In secert behind closed door it happens but not in public view.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Sorry, I'm not playing your game.

You're a goddamn hypocrite, you've been caught, publicaly exposed, and although nobody else doubts your status as such, you still wander around like a fool in denial.

Why the fuck should anyone play your little game?

Yep she knows shes wrong but too ignorant to say it.

I'm wrong?

You didn't say this?

The left got so upset when Bachmann said now it's our turn to get upset. Fuck it, all this is doing is causing more division between the people of this country. Thats why I say obama is not an effective leader. A good leader would not allow this to happen.

and when asked to prove the bolded part gave me a link to a 500+ page thread about a shooting in AZ and complaints about PALIN?

and then, when called on THAT, you mumble something about

Oh and Bachman was metioned in that thread.

which PROVES you acknowledge your link to be inadequate.

6 days left...tick tock Plenty of time to show us those Leftist comments about being "so upset when Bachman said" whatever she said.

So, if reb provides that link, you go bye bye for thirty days, and post whatever he says in your sigline for 30 days after your return?

And you will leave starting when, if that link is provided today?

Did he take the bet?

 

[bodecea]

Yep she knows shes wrong but too ignorant to say it.

I'm wrong?

You didn't say this?


and when asked to prove the bolded part gave me a link to a 500+ page thread about a shooting in AZ and complaints about PALIN?

and then, when called on THAT, you mumble something about

Oh and Bachman was metioned in that thread.

which PROVES you acknowledge your link to be inadequate.

6 days left...tick tock Plenty of time to show us those Leftist comments about being "so upset when Bachman said" whatever she said.

So, if reb provides that proof, you go bye bye for thirty days, and post whatever he says in your sigline for 30 days after your return?

Did he take the bet?

NOW Wicked Lester the Coward wants to chime in? You had your chance. You chickened out.

 

[Wicked Jester]

I'm wrong?

You didn't say this?


and when asked to prove the bolded part gave me a link to a 500+ page thread about a shooting in AZ and complaints about PALIN?

and then, when called on THAT, you mumble something about which PROVES you acknowledge your link to be inadequate.

6 days left...tick tock Plenty of time to show us those Leftist comments about being "so upset when Bachman said" whatever she said.

So, if reb provides that proof, you go bye bye for thirty days, and post whatever he says in your sigline for 30 days after your return?

Did he take the bet?

NOW Wicked Lester the Coward wants to chime in? You had your chance. You chickened out.

Noooooo, I told you I don't deal with liberals. They're snakes that can't be trusted. So, no I wouldn't take a bet with any of you losers......If Reb did, that's his choice.

I'm asking you if reb took your bet, and if those are the stakes in the bet.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I'm wrong?

You didn't say this?


and when asked to prove the bolded part gave me a link to a 500+ page thread about a shooting in AZ and complaints about PALIN?

and then, when called on THAT, you mumble something about which PROVES you acknowledge your link to be inadequate.

6 days left...tick tock Plenty of time to show us those Leftist comments about being "so upset when Bachman said" whatever she said.

So, if reb provides that proof, you go bye bye for thirty days, and post whatever he says in your sigline for 30 days after your return?

Did he take the bet?

NOW Wicked Lester the Coward wants to chime in? You had your chance. You chickened out.

Shut the fuck up

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...s-for-violent-uprising-against-president.html

 

[edthecynic]

Yeah he was talking about beating them at the polls in the upcoming congressional election , i remember he said that if we can't beat them at the polls maybe we need to start our own country but "Let’s hope we don’t have to do that! Let’s beat that other side to a pulp! Let’s take them out. Let’s chase them down. There’s going to be a reckoning!"

I notice none of the sources with this quote, all liberal blogs and web outlets, contain what was said leading up to those comments.


So ED, if you think king is being violent but not hoffa your being a hypocrite since both were talking about elections........i say both were wrong in their language, how about you?

Here's a video, King edited the beat the pulp part out, obviously knowing it was a call to violence and not to vote. If you notice he also calls it a war, and this is well more than a year BEFORE Hoffa. In any case, there is no call to vote from King!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NwaSuUzgxg"]Support the "Steve King Health Care Repeal Bill" Call Congress NOW! - YouTube[/ame]

Thanks for the vid, i do remember the speech and i remember him talking about voting out the dems prior to when that starts it.

So its either you find both king and hoffa's rhetoric wrong, you find nothing wrong with either one, or you personally are a hypocrite.

I'll go with saying both were wrong to use that type of violent rhetoric, even if they are both talking about voting, in light of what the new norm for this type of talk is in the country.

BULLSHIT!

You are the one claiming he talked about voting, so it is up to you to provide the proof. There is no record of him saying anything about voting, no newspaper report, nothing except your phony memory.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Here's a video, King edited the beat the pulp part out, obviously knowing it was a call to violence and not to vote. If you notice he also calls it a war, and this is well more than a year BEFORE Hoffa. In any case, there is no call to vote from King!

Support the "Steve King Health Care Repeal Bill" Call Congress NOW! - YouTube

Thanks for the vid, i do remember the speech and i remember him talking about voting out the dems prior to when that starts it.

So its either you find both king and hoffa's rhetoric wrong, you find nothing wrong with either one, or you personally are a hypocrite.

I'll go with saying both were wrong to use that type of violent rhetoric, even if they are both talking about voting, in light of what the new norm for this type of talk is in the country.

BULLSHIT!

You are the one claiming he talked about voting, so it is up to you to provide the proof. There is no record of him saying anything about voting, no newspaper report, nothing except your phony memory.

you are wrong. pre vote speech talking about if they lose they aren't going to let the "socialists" hold power.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY4gSPCccNE]Steve King pep talk hours before bill passed! - YouTube[/ame]

now if i can find that approx 1.5 min BEFORE where the video of after the vote started I could further show you where he talked about the people voting the reps out directly just prior to where your link starts out.

Since i dont have that video, nor do you, lets assume that he was talking about voting. Under that assumption do you find his comments acceptable?

Remember your the one who brought up the identical comments then claimed they weren't about voting yet you can't provide the full context of the comments, so the onus is on you to still verify your initial claim that started our back and forth.

 

[Uncensored2008]

So Doorknob, will you be vanishing for a month, then?

 

[Wicked Jester]

So, if reb provides that proof, you go bye bye for thirty days, and post whatever he says in your sigline for 30 days after your return?

Did he take the bet?

NOW Wicked Lester the Coward wants to chime in? You had your chance. You chickened out.

Shut the fuck up

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...s-for-violent-uprising-against-president.html

OH SHIT!

BAM!

Bye, Bye, Bodecea!

 

[bodecea]

So, if reb provides that proof, you go bye bye for thirty days, and post whatever he says in your sigline for 30 days after your return?

Did he take the bet?

NOW Wicked Lester the Coward wants to chime in? You had your chance. You chickened out.

Noooooo, I told you I don't deal with liberals. They're snakes that can't be trusted. So, no I wouldn't take a bet with any of you losers......If Reb did, that's his choice.

I'm asking you if reb took your bet, and if those are the stakes in the bet.

That's your story and you're sticking to it. We scare you so much you were AFRAID to even make a bet about a 30 day self-ban.

 

[bodecea]

So, if reb provides that proof, you go bye bye for thirty days, and post whatever he says in your sigline for 30 days after your return?

Did he take the bet?

NOW Wicked Lester the Coward wants to chime in? You had your chance. You chickened out.

Shut the fuck up

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...s-for-violent-uprising-against-president.html

2009????? and how many lefties in that one?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

NOW Wicked Lester the Coward wants to chime in? You had your chance. You chickened out.

Noooooo, I told you I don't deal with liberals. They're snakes that can't be trusted. So, no I wouldn't take a bet with any of you losers......If Reb did, that's his choice.

I'm asking you if reb took your bet, and if those are the stakes in the bet.

That's your story and you're sticking to it. We scare you so much you were AFRAID to even make a bet about a 30 day self-ban.

Tic Toc Tic Toc Tic Toc why are you still here why havn't you baned yourself?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...s-for-violent-uprising-against-president.html

 

[bigrebnc1775]

NOW Wicked Lester the Coward wants to chime in? You had your chance. You chickened out.

Shut the fuck up

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...s-for-violent-uprising-against-president.html

2009????? and how many lefties in that one?

Bye-bye we will not miss you while you're gone

 

[bodecea]

NOW Wicked Lester the Coward wants to chime in? You had your chance. You chickened out.

Shut the fuck up

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...s-for-violent-uprising-against-president.html

OH SHIT!

BAM!

Bye, Bye, Bodecea!

At least LittleTraitor is trying (funny tho it is)....you cowarded out.

 

[bodecea]

Noooooo, I told you I don't deal with liberals. They're snakes that can't be trusted. So, no I wouldn't take a bet with any of you losers......If Reb did, that's his choice.

I'm asking you if reb took your bet, and if those are the stakes in the bet.

That's your story and you're sticking to it. We scare you so much you were AFRAID to even make a bet about a 30 day self-ban.

Tic Toc Tic Toc Tic Toc why are you still here why havn't you baned yourself?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...s-for-violent-uprising-against-president.html

2009....one OP asking why she was reelected....followed by an entire thread about Obama. That's it? That's all you've got? Seriously? Where's the beef?

Like this leftie?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1112131-post30.html

Pale Rider?

and this leftie?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1112525-post57.html

This thread is so old, it has DiveCon posting in it.

This is your statement I asked for evidence for:

The left got so upset when Bachmann said now it's our turn to get upset. Fuck it, all this is doing is causing more division between the people of this country. Thats why I say obama is not an effective leader. A good leader would not allow this to happen.

Now you are saying that "the left got so upset when Bachmann said" TWO YEARS AGO, "now it's our turn to get upset." It took you guys TWO YEARS to get upset? TWO YEARS? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Shut the fuck up

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...s-for-violent-uprising-against-president.html

OH SHIT!

BAM!

Bye, Bye, Bodecea!

At least LittleTraitor is trying (funny tho it is)....you cowarded out.

You have two links with lefties belly aching and whining and moaning and getting up set. Time for you to ban yourself

 

[bigrebnc1775]

That's your story and you're sticking to it. We scare you so much you were AFRAID to even make a bet about a 30 day self-ban.

Tic Toc Tic Toc Tic Toc why are you still here why havn't you baned yourself?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...s-for-violent-uprising-against-president.html

2009....one OP asking why she was reelected....followed by an entire thread about Obama. That's it? That's all you've got? Seriously? Where's the beef?

Two links you're a horseass if you don't keep your word

 

[bodecea]

OH SHIT!

BAM!

Bye, Bye, Bodecea!

At least LittleTraitor is trying (funny tho it is)....you cowarded out.

You have two links with lefties belly aching and whining and moaning and getting up set. Time for you to ban yourself

I have ONE LINK about a shooting in AZ and complaints about Palin (Palin isn't Bachman)

I have ONE LINK about a Bachman statement in a thread TWO YEARS old with most posters being Righties.....one being Divecon....that's how old the link is.


You call that evidence to back your statement? Seriously? How would that hold up as an assignment in a class? How would that hold up as evidence in a civil case? Do you think we are MORONS like you?

 

[bodecea]

Tic Toc Tic Toc Tic Toc why are you still here why havn't you baned yourself?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...s-for-violent-uprising-against-president.html

2009....one OP asking why she was reelected....followed by an entire thread about Obama. That's it? That's all you've got? Seriously? Where's the beef?

Two links you're a horseass if you don't keep your word

One link about the wrong person and one link so old it's a fossil.