Holy crap - this has to stop!

[francoHFW]

Really? Never heard of it. Did it run in Central Park for weeks sponsored by a Major Media company and the financial backing of several Fortune 500 companies? Did the Leftist Press HAIL it as a cerebral adaptation of a theme?

Nonetheless, US Presidents, and the US government in general, has been ridiculed and subjected to the ire of American citizens since the beginning. Please don't act like it just started happening last January.

The "obama version" was a Minneapolis theater with NO national significance and the actor was just a "lanky black man" --- got ZERO national exposure.

The CURRENT perversion is in the HOME FUCKING TOWN of the President in the most well known park and city in the world and was PRODUCED by a Major Media corporation... It's that ACCELERATION that is going on that gonna get bodies in the streets. You need to be aware of the AMPLIFICATIONS of all this political tribal conflict.

And using one obscure occurrence to ABSOLVE a more egregious occurrence is what's gonna inevitably turn this into a hot war....

Do you really want to make it against the law to criticize the President or our government?

This ain't about ANY legislation. It's about regaining LEADERSHIP, humility in serving in govt, DECENCY, and accountability in govt.

It's also about SURVIVAL in an age when the major media is part of the "insurgency".. What I WANT is for folks to use their judgement muscles before they atrophy away. And that means realizing the seriousness of an inherently UNSTABLE 2 party domination of everything politics. They've LOCKED UP the power. There is no ability for even our elected Congress people to speak their minds freely. Or act as independent identities.

To paraphrase Dr McCoy of Star Fleet -- "Dammit Jim -- I'm a libertarian -- not a fascist".. The 2 Brand Name parties have become the greatest threat to the Republic.

I have confidence "We, the People" will keep the fascists, socialists and other authoritarians at bay for decades. Still, it never hurts to follow the mottos of the Scottish Police; Semper Vigilo and the US Coast Guard; Semper Paratus.

So Dems and socialists are authoritarians? Duped AGAIN. And fascists are on the LW again?

 

[Divine Wind]

Sure.. We can have a 100 Image consultants and focus groups handle that. More balloons, more vetting, more control... Pretty soon, it'll be just as phony as the "niormal" conventions. There was TONS of more debate, more choices, and more solutions offered at THAT convention -- than any other that year.

We COULD I suppose go negative on the Brand Name tribes and make BIG HUGE headlines. But we decided (unfortunately) not to DO that. NEXT TIME --- all you're gonna hear from us is about the blood in the streets, the chaos, the phony news, the derilection of DUTY -- that is gonna be the "track record" for BOTH your corrupt and debased dynasty parties that need to die... Won't NEED money or a podium at the debates to make that case...

You guys are making it WAAAAAY too easy...

Thanks to you and TN, I started looking into this Libertarian Party prior to their convention. I looked at articles and write ups on the candidates, and I read your posts and I STILL got more and more confused about what it would look like. Then I watched the televised portion of the convention and it was obvious that the Party has not yet found its professional footing. I've seen town meetings a lot more together than that was. You folks don't have to be slick and shiny and bullshit driven but you do need to have your act together. I'd welcome it; at least knowing what a Libertarian government would look like would be a help. Be ready to answer those questions next time, is my advice. And if an attention whore gets on stage, don't let him strip for five minutes before anyone gets their finger out of their butt and does something about it.

LOL. Yes, the Libertarian party has a long ways to go before they catch up the "professionalism" of the DNC and RNC. That said, I are one. I was a Republican for well over 30 years, but it's been changing for the worse since the Christian Coalition got their foot in the door. The Democrats are worse so what options do we really have?

Well, no disrespect meant to you or anyone else, but when you vote it's kind of like choosing a banker. You don't want the one in sneakers, spitting tobacco out the window, to be holding your money. Usually, anyway.
Meant as constructive feedback, sans the kid gloves.

When the choice is between the epitome of political corruption and a rich idiot, what do you suggest? Stay home? Hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils? Sorry, I've tried both and neither work.

The epitome of corruption only in Dupeworld, duhhhh. All investigated and nothing...

Sad for you that the Troll party will never amount to more than a mutual masturbation meeting.

 

[francoHFW]

There has been a surge of violence, all perpetrated by you Nazi scum on behalf of your Fuhrer. Your Fuhrer Soros is an evil fucker ruling over the most evil party since the Khmer Rouge.

He's a rich old man who gives his $$$ to charity. Unlike your rich old man who uses his to hoodwink people and get as many dollars from them as he can.

No. Soro's makes his money shorting currencies and bringing down Nations. I urge you to look up Fabian Socialism. That's what he is.

A VERY successful hedge fund manager and a huge believer in truth and democracy, dupe. Which makes him very unpopular with your lying, cheating billionaire GOP heroes...

Nope dupe, he makes his money bringing Nations down. Had you been a Jew in the 30's he'd have turned you in. If you want some of my money come get it. Otherwise shut the fuck up.

George Soros was born in 1930. He was 15 years old when WWII ended. I've seen posters on this board claim that he was was behind Hitler's rise to power even though Hitler took power in 1933 when Soros was a toddler. If Soros turned in Jews in the 30's, who would have believed a small boy?

It's also been said that he's a major shareholder in Monsanto. Their shareholder records are public and neither Sotos nor his investment fund are listed as shareholders.

Soros is like some sort of bogey man to the right. He donated to a lot of left wing causes so he gets blamed for everything. Every demonstration against Trump was purportedly financed by Soros. It's laughable.

The hateful bs that so many dupes believe about Dems is ridiculous...

 

[francoHFW]

Thanks to you and TN, I started looking into this Libertarian Party prior to their convention. I looked at articles and write ups on the candidates, and I read your posts and I STILL got more and more confused about what it would look like. Then I watched the televised portion of the convention and it was obvious that the Party has not yet found its professional footing. I've seen town meetings a lot more together than that was. You folks don't have to be slick and shiny and bullshit driven but you do need to have your act together. I'd welcome it; at least knowing what a Libertarian government would look like would be a help. Be ready to answer those questions next time, is my advice. And if an attention whore gets on stage, don't let him strip for five minutes before anyone gets their finger out of their butt and does something about it.

LOL. Yes, the Libertarian party has a long ways to go before they catch up the "professionalism" of the DNC and RNC. That said, I are one. I was a Republican for well over 30 years, but it's been changing for the worse since the Christian Coalition got their foot in the door. The Democrats are worse so what options do we really have?

Well, no disrespect meant to you or anyone else, but when you vote it's kind of like choosing a banker. You don't want the one in sneakers, spitting tobacco out the window, to be holding your money. Usually, anyway.
Meant as constructive feedback, sans the kid gloves.

When the choice is between the epitome of political corruption and a rich idiot, what do you suggest? Stay home? Hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils? Sorry, I've tried both and neither work.

The epitome of corruption only in Dupeworld, duhhhh. All investigated and nothing...

Sad for you that the Troll party will never amount to more than a mutual masturbation meeting.

So what evidence is there against Hillary that gets into the real world? Hint: NOTHING. Got anything? LOL

 

[Markle]

Agree with some disagree with others. The right has its own long history of violence. The kkk is one example, but also the collaboration of law enforcement in covering up and even engaging in violence and murder during the civil rights era.

What I meant is violence IS free speech, but like slander or libel it's an example of where we put limits on it. It's not an unlimited right.

As you know, when the Ku Klux Klan was violent they were Democrats.

Care to try again?

 

[francoHFW]

Thanks to you and TN, I started looking into this Libertarian Party prior to their convention. I looked at articles and write ups on the candidates, and I read your posts and I STILL got more and more confused about what it would look like. Then I watched the televised portion of the convention and it was obvious that the Party has not yet found its professional footing. I've seen town meetings a lot more together than that was. You folks don't have to be slick and shiny and bullshit driven but you do need to have your act together. I'd welcome it; at least knowing what a Libertarian government would look like would be a help. Be ready to answer those questions next time, is my advice. And if an attention whore gets on stage, don't let him strip for five minutes before anyone gets their finger out of their butt and does something about it.

LOL. Yes, the Libertarian party has a long ways to go before they catch up the "professionalism" of the DNC and RNC. That said, I are one. I was a Republican for well over 30 years, but it's been changing for the worse since the Christian Coalition got their foot in the door. The Democrats are worse so what options do we really have?

Well, no disrespect meant to you or anyone else, but when you vote it's kind of like choosing a banker. You don't want the one in sneakers, spitting tobacco out the window, to be holding your money. Usually, anyway.
Meant as constructive feedback, sans the kid gloves.

When the choice is between the epitome of political corruption and a rich idiot, what do you suggest? Stay home? Hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils? Sorry, I've tried both and neither work.

The epitome of corruption only in Dupeworld, duhhhh. All investigated and nothing...

Sad for you that the Troll party will never amount to more than a mutual masturbation meeting.

I'm a Dem, full of info-see sig, hardly a troll- my experience is that only ingnorant dupes are trolls... You want elections where voters list all their choices in order, and I am masturbating? LOL

 

[francoHFW]

Agree with some disagree with others. The right has its own long history of violence. The kkk is one example, but also the collaboration of law enforcement in covering up and even engaging in violence and murder during the civil rights era.

What I meant is violence IS free speech, but like slander or libel it's an example of where we put limits on it. It's not an unlimited right.

As you know, when the Ku Klux Klan was violent they were Democrats.

Care to try again?

Your misunderstanding of history is total. Yes regressive Southern conservatives are violent regressive a-holes, but now they're GOP duh.surge in attacks on gays, blacks, jews etc since Trump. - Google Search

 

[Divine Wind]

I'm a Dem, full of info-see sig, hardly a troll- my experience is that only ingnorant dupes are trolls... You want elections where voters list all their choices in order, and I am masturbating? LOL

So the comments about Democrats being authoritarian assholes is true?

 

[Markle]

It's not his nature, unfortunately, to cooperate with the competition.

Why should he reach out to California?

Maxine Waters Attacks Trump And The Patriotism Of Those Who Support Him
"I'm out to get him."By Jack Davis
on March 28, 2017 at 12:34pm

WATCH: Dem Stands Up On House Floor, Unleashes Shock New Attack On Trump That'll Stun Both Sides

 

[Pogo]

To POGO -- Yes "you guys" --- the severed head, the repeated killing of the President in Central Park, the attempted MASS assassination of Congress people (ESPECIALLY THE BOOING AND JEERING OF THE PREZ at the BBall game) --- IS the predictable acceleration of this "street theatre" and farce. And here "you guys" are -- trying to justify all the lying, scheming, hissy fit driven political tantrums that are turning ugly --- with events from 30 years ago and mostly UNORGANIZED and UNSUPPORTABLE acts from history.

You need to see the trajectory and the acceleration and the monumental SIZE of this tantrum to understand the dangers. Especially with the MainStream Press INVENTING and SPINNING the crap that is needed to SUSTAIN the anger and violence and opposition.

NNnnnooo, actually you need to demonstrate where I --- or OldLady, or whichever of us you're talking about --- have anything whatsoever to do with "the severed head, the repeated killing of the President in Central Park, the attempted MASS assassination of Congress people (ESPECIALLY THE BOOING AND JEERING OF THE PREZ at the BBall game)". Speaking for myself I can honestly say (1) I would never have even seen the severed head if not for reading USMB, (2) ditto for whatever this play thing is, I haven't even looked into it, and (3) though I wasn't at the baseball game I was watching it on stream and this is the first I've even heard of it.

You seem to be dropping into the same Borg Fallacy. These events have nothing to do with any "you guys". One was (apparently) a comedian (who I never eve heard of before a month ago), the second was (apparently) a play somebody's putting on, and the third --- That calculates out to a "her", a "troupe" and an unknown event. None of which are part of a "you guys" I have any association with ---- unless you're actually trying to impugn baseball fans, which I find even more bizarro.

Do you actually not understand the difference between various diverse individuals, and a cohesive collective?

 

[Markle]

I saw hundreds of conservatives take up arms and aim them at gov't employees when Cliven Bundy refused to comply with grazing regulations for his cattle, and again for his stupid son in Oregon at the Malheur NWR.

Who was shot and killed at the Bundy Ranch or beaten for that matter?

How about the Black Lives Matter demonstrations?

 

[flacaltenn]

"It" won't stop. Pelosi did not last 24 hours. The radical anti-American board marxist are already leaking back to normal, despite pleading "this has to stop". They want violence in the streets. They will not stop until they get it. They will have to be obliged.

Who here wants violence?

Last civil war took 600,000 lives. It's unconscionable that we could go that route again. Besides, there's no Mason-Dixon line in the sand. What would happen? Instead of Sherman burning Atlanta we would have rednecks burning L.A.?

We won't have a civil war for one major reason: too many Americans are spineless shits more concerned about their iPhones and Beemers to pick up a weapon.

A few riots and a few mass shootings do not a Civil War make.

Well for starters, speech and expression are gonna get shut down. Town Halls??? Impossible.. Political figures giving graduation speeches? Not gonna happen. Folks are gonna turn off the annoying noise and make their own.

The NEW Social Media is gonna be "filtered" for news and hate speech. Creating further polarization and isolation. And with no 3rd estate having any credibility left --- the polarization is just gonna broach violence. There's nothing to moderate the anger and frustration over political POWER.

This ain't about policy. It ain't about solving problems. It's ALL about struggle to CONTROL the power that the Feds TAKEN from the Constitution to micromanage EVERY ASPECT of people's lives. Nothing to do with money. Because 1/2 the lobbyists in D.C. would pack up and leave tomorrow if every congress critter didn't TAKE the power to make SOME companies win and others lose. Lobbying is a defensive art. Not an offensive art. You take away the ability to favor ONE company over ANOTHER and the money and the power and the LOBBYISTS -- simply disappear.... Neither party Dem or Rep will do that. Because that's the PRIZE for "WINNING"...

 

[Pogo]

I said the KKK started in the racist south which was the hotbed of American conservatism, known as the Bible Belt. I said nothing of anyone's political party, you did.

Bingo!!! Thank you for amditting it!

And your dumb ass is too ignorant of U.S. history to realize that in the 1860's - that was not the "hotbed of American conservatism". That are was the hotbed of American progressivism. You know - you people who hate blacks. There is a reason they were called "the Southern Democrats".

Progressivism didn't even BEGIN until the turn of that century, Stoopid. If you're talking about the South, you're talking conservatism. Rich, old money conservatism that, for one thing, wanted to keep ("conserve") the institution of Slavery even while it was crumbling elsewhere around the world. There was absolutely nothing "progressive" ---- even with a small p, the adjective ---- about it. It had an old model that made profit and desired to KEEP (CONSERVE) that old model despite the changing times.

You have gotta be the most mindless poster since Special Ed. No shit.

Of course there would be a reason to call them Southern Democrats --- they lived in the South.

 

[Coyote]

I saw hundreds of conservatives take up arms and aim them at gov't employees when Cliven Bundy refused to comply with grazing regulations for his cattle, and again for his stupid son in Oregon at the Malheur NWR.

Who was shot and killed at the Bundy Ranch or beaten for that matter?

How about the Black Lives Matter demonstrations?

Property was destroyed.

 

[flacaltenn]

To POGO -- Yes "you guys" --- the severed head, the repeated killing of the President in Central Park, the attempted MASS assassination of Congress people (ESPECIALLY THE BOOING AND JEERING OF THE PREZ at the BBall game) --- IS the predictable acceleration of this "street theatre" and farce. And here "you guys" are -- trying to justify all the lying, scheming, hissy fit driven political tantrums that are turning ugly --- with events from 30 years ago and mostly UNORGANIZED and UNSUPPORTABLE acts from history.

You need to see the trajectory and the acceleration and the monumental SIZE of this tantrum to understand the dangers. Especially with the MainStream Press INVENTING and SPINNING the crap that is needed to SUSTAIN the anger and violence and opposition.

NNnnnooo, actually you need to demonstrate where I --- or OldLady, or whichever of us you're talking about --- have anything whatsoever to do with "the severed head, the repeated killing of the President in Central Park, the attempted MASS assassination of Congress people (ESPECIALLY THE BOOING AND JEERING OF THE PREZ at the BBall game)". Speaking for myself I can honestly say (1) I would never have even seen the severed head if not for reading USMB, (2) ditto for whatever this play thing is, I haven't even looked into it, and (3) though I wasn't at the baseball game I was watching it on stream and this is the first I've even heard of it.

You seem to be dropping into the same Borg Fallacy. These events have nothing to do with any "you guys". One was (apparently) a comedian (who I never eve heard of before a month ago), the second was (apparently) a play somebody's putting on, and the third --- That calculates out to a "her", a "troupe" and an unknown event. None of which are part of a "you guys" I have any association with ---- unless you're actually trying to impugn baseball fans, which I find even more bizarro.

Do you actually not understand the difference between various diverse individuals, and a cohesive collective?

And yet youre here multiple hours of every day always dependably defending the Blue Team and taking shots at the Other Ones. Did you REWARD these bad actors with votes? If so -- enjoy your meal. It's about to be served.

 

[Divine Wind]

"It" won't stop. Pelosi did not last 24 hours. The radical anti-American board marxist are already leaking back to normal, despite pleading "this has to stop". They want violence in the streets. They will not stop until they get it. They will have to be obliged.

Who here wants violence?

Last civil war took 600,000 lives. It's unconscionable that we could go that route again. Besides, there's no Mason-Dixon line in the sand. What would happen? Instead of Sherman burning Atlanta we would have rednecks burning L.A.?

We won't have a civil war for one major reason: too many Americans are spineless shits more concerned about their iPhones and Beemers to pick up a weapon.

A few riots and a few mass shootings do not a Civil War make.

Well for starters, speech and expression are gonna get shut down. Town Halls??? Impossible.. Political figures giving graduation speeches? Not gonna happen. Folks are gonna turn off the annoying noise and make their own.

The NEW Social Media is gonna be "filtered" for news and hate speech. Creating further polarization and isolation. And with no 3rd estate having any credibility left --- the polarization is just gonna broach violence. There's nothing to moderate the anger and frustration over political POWER.

This ain't about policy. It ain't about solving problems. It's ALL about struggle to CONTROL the power that the Feds TAKEN from the Constitution to micromanage EVERY ASPECT of people's lives. Nothing to do with money. Because 1/2 the lobbyists in D.C. would pack up and leave tomorrow if every congress critter didn't TAKE the power to make SOME companies win and others lose. Lobbying is a defensive art. Not an offensive art. You take away the ability to favor ONE company over ANOTHER and the money and the power and the LOBBYISTS -- simply disappear.... Neither party Dem or Rep will do that. Because that's the PRIZE for "WINNING"...

When that happens, maybe more people will talk less and act more.

 

[Pogo]

Of course it's changed ... the south is now mostly Republican.

Notice how Faun can't get his story straight? In post #1214 he claims that the KKK wasn't created by Dumbocrats because it was (and I quote) "in the Bible Belt" and yet he states in post #1211 that (and I quote again) "it's changed...the south is now mostly Republican". That admission acknowledges that he realizes that the south wasn't Republican at all during the time the KKK was created.

First Pogo and now Faun. The Dumbocrats dimwits are having one hell of a time keeping their stories straight this evening. That's what happens with liars.

Poor, demented, Buttplug. I never said, "the KKK wasn't created by Dumbocrats, " as you falsely ascribed to me. See that? Your illiteracy once again causes you to fail.

I dunno if Buttsoiler is actually so stupid he can actually go to the trouble of changing poster's names and yet STILL not remember who's who, but I'm the one who posted that the Klan wasn't founded by Democrats, or rather refuted Buttsoiler's (and somebody else's --- Markle?) claim that it was, and I proved it. I've been doing it here for literally years, which says much about the level of self-delusion around here.

 

[Pogo]

To POGO -- Yes "you guys" --- the severed head, the repeated killing of the President in Central Park, the attempted MASS assassination of Congress people (ESPECIALLY THE BOOING AND JEERING OF THE PREZ at the BBall game) --- IS the predictable acceleration of this "street theatre" and farce. And here "you guys" are -- trying to justify all the lying, scheming, hissy fit driven political tantrums that are turning ugly --- with events from 30 years ago and mostly UNORGANIZED and UNSUPPORTABLE acts from history.

You need to see the trajectory and the acceleration and the monumental SIZE of this tantrum to understand the dangers. Especially with the MainStream Press INVENTING and SPINNING the crap that is needed to SUSTAIN the anger and violence and opposition.

NNnnnooo, actually you need to demonstrate where I --- or OldLady, or whichever of us you're talking about --- have anything whatsoever to do with "the severed head, the repeated killing of the President in Central Park, the attempted MASS assassination of Congress people (ESPECIALLY THE BOOING AND JEERING OF THE PREZ at the BBall game)". Speaking for myself I can honestly say (1) I would never have even seen the severed head if not for reading USMB, (2) ditto for whatever this play thing is, I haven't even looked into it, and (3) though I wasn't at the baseball game I was watching it on stream and this is the first I've even heard of it.

You seem to be dropping into the same Borg Fallacy. These events have nothing to do with any "you guys". One was (apparently) a comedian (who I never eve heard of before a month ago), the second was (apparently) a play somebody's putting on, and the third --- That calculates out to a "her", a "troupe" and an unknown event. None of which are part of a "you guys" I have any association with ---- unless you're actually trying to impugn baseball fans, which I find even more bizarro.

Do you actually not understand the difference between various diverse individuals, and a cohesive collective?

And yet youre here multiple hours of every day always dependably defending the Blue Team and taking shots at the Other Ones. Did you REWARD these bad actors with votes? If so -- enjoy your meal. It's about to be served.

SMH --- you're as bad as the Composition Fallacies I've been calling out here for as long as I've existed. I thought you were smarter than this. False accusations now, really??

You'll have to show me some evidence, or take the shame as a liar.

I'm also not aware of any venue where you can "vote" for a comedian or a play or a baseball crowd. This is as blatantly dishonest as the Saul Belinsky bullshit.

What the FUCK kind of level have we descended to when you can just hurl accusations at people of being involved in things they never even FUCKING HEARD OF?

YOU need to look up at the title of this thread and do a soul search pal, because you're on very thin ice here.

 

[flacaltenn]

To POGO -- Yes "you guys" --- the severed head, the repeated killing of the President in Central Park, the attempted MASS assassination of Congress people (ESPECIALLY THE BOOING AND JEERING OF THE PREZ at the BBall game) --- IS the predictable acceleration of this "street theatre" and farce. And here "you guys" are -- trying to justify all the lying, scheming, hissy fit driven political tantrums that are turning ugly --- with events from 30 years ago and mostly UNORGANIZED and UNSUPPORTABLE acts from history.

You need to see the trajectory and the acceleration and the monumental SIZE of this tantrum to understand the dangers. Especially with the MainStream Press INVENTING and SPINNING the crap that is needed to SUSTAIN the anger and violence and opposition.

NNnnnooo, actually you need to demonstrate where I --- or OldLady, or whichever of us you're talking about --- have anything whatsoever to do with "the severed head, the repeated killing of the President in Central Park, the attempted MASS assassination of Congress people (ESPECIALLY THE BOOING AND JEERING OF THE PREZ at the BBall game)". Speaking for myself I can honestly say (1) I would never have even seen the severed head if not for reading USMB, (2) ditto for whatever this play thing is, I haven't even looked into it, and (3) though I wasn't at the baseball game I was watching it on stream and this is the first I've even heard of it.

You seem to be dropping into the same Borg Fallacy. These events have nothing to do with any "you guys". One was (apparently) a comedian (who I never eve heard of before a month ago), the second was (apparently) a play somebody's putting on, and the third --- That calculates out to a "her", a "troupe" and an unknown event. None of which are part of a "you guys" I have any association with ---- unless you're actually trying to impugn baseball fans, which I find even more bizarro.

Do you actually not understand the difference between various diverse individuals, and a cohesive collective?

And yet youre here multiple hours of every day always dependably defending the Blue Team and taking shots at the Other Ones. Did you REWARD these bad actors with votes? If so -- enjoy your meal. It's about to be served.

SMH --- you're as bad as the Composition Fallacies I've been calling out here for as long as I've existed. I thought you were smarter than this. False accusations now, really??

You'll have to show me some evidence, or take the shame as a liar.

I'm also not aware of any venue where you can "vote" for a comedian or a play or a baseball crowd. This is as blatantly dishonest as the Saul Belinsky bullshit.

What the FUCK kind of level have we descended to when you can just hurl accusations at people of being involved in things they never even FUCKING HEARD OF?

YOU need to look up at the title of this thread and do a soul search pal, because you're on very thin ice here.

When the last time you picked one of your infamous "fight to the death", "I get the last word" grudge matches against anything leftist? That's what you do --- isn't it? Is it NON-partisan? NOPE. It is not...

You're in this thread trying to pass off the old South as a some kind of "conservative prototype" because slavery is Conservative. That's a fight I'm willing to pass on. But nonetheless, it's partisan based fantasy...

 

[francoHFW]

I'm a Dem, full of info-see sig, hardly a troll- my experience is that only ingnorant dupes are trolls... You want elections where voters list all their choices in order, and I am masturbating? LOL

So the comments about Democrats being authoritarian assholes is true?

So nothing, eh? Of course not. if it were up to us, pot would be legal and taxed, half our prisons would empty, treatment would take its place, Cuba would be open, you'd have a 1 month paid vacation after a year of work etc etc But you dupes have to save the greedy idiot rich...And make no mistake, if you think Hillary is the queen of corruption, you're duped...