Hospital removing transplant patients for being unvaxxed

[Slade3200]

So you didn’t read the Yahoo! story

I guess not. I read a fox story and a couple local articles about it. What am I missing?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

What's correct?

That the media is behind the vaccine shaming and our CDC refuses to differentiate between those who had the virus and survived vs those who never had it. I had to spell it out for you?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I guess not. I read a fox story and a couple local articles about it. What am I missing?

You’re missing that they aren’t sure if the vaccines cause heart issues in kids. I posted the link. Guess you ignored it.

 

[Slade3200]

That the media is behind the vaccine shaming and our CDC refuses to differentiate between those who had the virus and survived vs those who never had it. I had to spell it out for you?

Yes you did... and thank you for that. I think the CDC and the media are staying on the side of caution and trying to message that way. I have no problem with you waiting for a booster if you currently have antibodies and are working with your doctor, taking his advice. I don't know many that would have a problem with that. Meanwhile we have a large chunk of people in this country spreading misinformation spreading fear and doubt about the vaccine, downplaying the seriousness of COVID and as a result the virus is mutating and spreading and now we are in a situation where hospitals are being overwhelmed and care is impacted for entire communities.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Yes you did... and thank you for that. I think the CDC and the media are staying on the side of caution and trying to message that way. I have no problem with you waiting for a booster if you currently have antibodies and are working with your doctor, taking his advice. I don't know many that would have a problem with that. Meanwhile we have a large chunk of people in this country spreading misinformation spreading fear and doubt about the vaccine, downplaying the seriousness of COVID and as a result the virus is mutating and spreading and now we are in a situation where hospitals are being overwhelmed and care is impacted for entire communities.

Caution? Why don’t they differentiate? You don’t have a problem but many still do.

 

[Slade3200]

You’re missing that they aren’t sure if the vaccines cause heart issues in kids. I posted the link. Guess you ignored it.

If you're doctor thinks your kid is at risk then follow your doctors advice. Some kids probably shouldn’t be taking the vaccine if they have a health risk. It's pretty simple.

 

[Slade3200]

Caution? Why don’t they differentiate? You don’t have a problem but many still do.

How do you want them to differentiate? What are you looking for?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

If you're doctor thinks your kid is at risk then follow your doctors advice. Some kids probably should be taking the vaccine if they have a health risk. It's pretty simple.

They don’t have enough data to truly opine.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

How do you want them to differentiate? What are you looking for?

To state publicly that those who had the virus and recovered are not at the same level of risk as those who never had it. Pretty simple. Instead they only differentiate between those who got the vaccine and those who didn’t. I really Have to spell that out too?

 

[Slade3200]

They don’t have enough data to truly opine.

Is that what your doctor told you or is that something you read on Yahoo?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Is that what your doctor told you or is that something you read on Yahoo?

That’s what their doctor told me. We don’t have the same doctor.

 

[Slade3200]

To state publicly that those who had the virus and recovered are not at the same level of risk as those who never had it. Pretty simple. Instead they only differentiate between those who got the vaccine and those who didn’t. I really Have to spell that out too?

Yes you do, thats how communication works!

Now per your issue. The CDC found that of those who have had COVID, people who get the vaccine are twice as likely to not catch it again vs. those who have not been vaccinated. This is why they still recommend people who have had COVID get vaccinated.

Coronavirus Disease 2019

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Slade3200]

That’s what their doctor told me. We don’t have the same doctor.

So their doctor told you there there are heart risks to your kids and did not recommend them get the vax? is that correct?

 

[Slade3200]

To state publicly that those who had the virus and recovered are not at the same level of risk as those who never had it. Pretty simple. Instead they only differentiate between those who got the vaccine and those who didn’t. I really Have to spell that out too?

Here is the first thing to pop up on Google when searching for "how safe are those who have antibodies from catching covid"

Isn't this exactly what you are complaining about nobody saying?

How Long Does Immunity Last After COVID-19? What We Know

Here’s what we currently know about how long people may be immune after they recover from COVID-19 or get the vaccine.

www.healthline.com

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Yes you do, thats how communication works!

Now per your issue. The CDC found that of those who have had COVID, people who get the vaccine are twice as likely to not catch it again vs. those who have not been vaccinated. This is why they still recommend people who have had COVID get vaccinated.

Coronavirus Disease 2019

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

You’re moving the goal posts. People who had COVID are basically immune if they really had it per the Cleveland Clinic study and again are they safer than those who never had COVID19? Yes or no? Why are you bringing vaccines into this? You have two groups, one had COVID and one never did. Which is safer?

No point vaccinating those who’ve had COVID-19: Cleveland Clinic study suggests

The study findings reveal that individuals with previous SARS-CoV-2 infection do not get additional benefits from vaccination, indicating that COVID-19 vaccines should be prioritized to individuals without prior infection. The study is currently available on the medRxiv* preprint server.

www.google.com

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So their doctor told you there there are heart risks to your kids and did not recommend them get the vax? is that correct?

Learn to read. Their doctor said there is not enough data but some kids have had issues.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Here is the first thing to pop up on Google when searching for "how safe are those who have antibodies from catching covid"

Isn't this exactly what you are complaining about nobody saying?

How Long Does Immunity Last After COVID-19? What We Know

Here’s what we currently know about how long people may be immune after they recover from COVID-19 or get the vaccine.

www.healthline.com

I am case in point. My immunity has lasted since last April. How do you explain that?

 

[Slade3200]

To state publicly that those who had the virus and recovered are not at the same level of risk as those who never had it. Pretty simple. Instead they only differentiate between those who got the vaccine and those who didn’t. I really Have to spell that out too?

Here is another study on natural antibodies. When did you catch COVID? How bad were your symptoms?

Antibody Responses 8 Months after Asymptomatic or Mild SARS-CoV-2 Infection

Antibody Responses after SARS-CoV-2 Infection

wwwnc.cdc.gov

 

[Slade3200]

Learn to read. Their doctor said there is not enough data but some kids have had issues.

Ok, so what did their doctor recommend you do? Give them the shot or not?

 

[Slade3200]

I am case in point. My immunity has lasted since last April. How do you explain that?

I explain it easily and with science. The CDC ran studies on this and found that natural immunity lasts about 7 months. People who experience more sever COVID symptoms will have stronger and longer lasting antibodies. Of those who have natural antibodies, they would receive 2x the protection if they get vaccinated on top of the natural antibodies. I've provided links for all I just posted.