House to vote on Consumption Tax and abolish the IRS

[Orangecat]

The GOP had two years with Trump as the POTUS and control of both the House and the Senate....why did they not do this back then?

Too many RINOs and too few Dr. Pauls.

 

[Orangecat]

Interesting. If the population is 330mm, that means each person would have to pay $14.3K in sales taxes on average a year.

Massive spending cuts would bring that number down massively.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The GOP had two years with Trump as the POTUS and control of both the House and the Senate....why did they not do this back then?

Because it is all show.
And the republicans certainly hold no corner market on showmanship faux bills. Democrats are especially egregious at bullshit, meaningless bills that don't actually do anything but they name it something that looks like it does.

 

[notmyfault2020]

And let the show begin!.... marching bands... circus clowns... come one come all and watch the show!!

This has about as much chance as getting anywhere as a vote to cut their own salaries.
It might get 100 votes overall.

House Republicans to vote on bill abolishing IRS, eliminating income tax

Rep. Buddy Carter, R-Ga., is reintroducing a bill with several colleagues that aims to repeal the national income tax, implement a national consumption tax and abolish the IRS.

www.foxnews.com

It should get all the R votes and all the sane Dimrat votes... (meaning zero dimrat votes)

 

[martybegan]

It will get a lot more votes than you think.

This will get the libs on the record against progress.

The problem is it will give ideas to progressives to pass a national consumption tax WHILE keeping the income tax.

 

[HeyNorm]

2020 spending was $6.6TR. Lets exclude SS and Medicare. That Leaves $4.731TR.

Interesting. If the population is 330mm, that means each person would have to pay $14.3K in sales taxes on average a year.

4,731,000,000,000

330,000,000

14,336

If this a accurate, it should be seen by every American.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Massive spending cuts would bring that number down massively.

Cool., Which ones?

note i am not disagreeing.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The same could be said for the dems over the past two years, no sense in being partisan about it.

I agree, except the Dems are not brining it up now when they know there is no chance for it to pass.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Massive spending cuts would bring that number down massively.

Who is the last person you voted for that cut spending in the Fed Govt?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Apologies I did not include the cite:

The Federal Budget in Fiscal Year 2020: An Infographic | Congressional Budget Office

The federal deficit in 2020 was $3.1 trillion, equal to 14.9 percent of gross domestic product.

www.cbo.gov

 

[Orangecat]

Cool., Which ones?

Which ones of what?

 

[Orangecat]

Who is the last person you voted for that cut spending in the Fed Govt?

My voting history is neither the subject of this thread nor any of your business.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

You would think Democrats would leap and jump for joy and can't wait to vote yes.
Why? Because the bottom 55% of the population pay no income tax at all. In fact, then have a negative liability. They get more back then they pay in.
So the government coffer would immediately start getting money from people they actually pay money to now

 

[Lakhota]

 

[Harpy Eagle]

My voting history is neither the subject of this thread nor any of your business.

How are we going to achieve these massive spending cuts you speak of if you and those like you refuse to vote for someone willing to cut spending?

 

[LeftofLeft]

You would think Democrats would leap and jump for joy and can't wait to vote yes.
Why? Because the bottom 55% of the population pay no income tax at all. In fact, then have a negative liability. They get more back then they pay in.
So the government coffer would immediately start getting money from people they actually pay money to now

All the more reason Democrats would fight tooth and nail to maintain Income Tax…. It is a constant vehicle for which they can push class warfare. Case in point. When there is a tax cut and the upper and middle class are happy, Democrats immediately cry that the poor are not getting any cuts yet they leave out that the poor are not even paying income tax.

 

[Independent thinker]

And let the show begin!.... marching bands... circus clowns... come one come all and watch the show!!

This has about as much chance as getting anywhere as a vote to cut their own salaries.
It might get 100 votes overall.

House Republicans to vote on bill abolishing IRS, eliminating income tax

Rep. Buddy Carter, R-Ga., is reintroducing a bill with several colleagues that aims to repeal the national income tax, implement a national consumption tax and abolish the IRS.

www.foxnews.com

Actually not a bad idea. The left are always bitching about the rich avoiding taxes through tax loopholes, etc. This would pretty much eliminate tax cheating of all kinds from all walks of life and tax loopholes. We wouldn't need extra money to revamp the IRS and add more agents and no one would have to do federal income taxes every year.

 

[Lakhota]

 

[Independent thinker]

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See: House Republicans to vote on bill abolishing IRS, eliminating income tax

"As a former small business owner, I understand the unnecessary burden our failing income tax system has on Americans. The Fair Tax Act eliminates the tax code, replaces the income tax with a sales tax, and abolishes the abusive Internal Revenue Service. If enacted, this will invigorate the American taxpayer and help more Americans achieve the American Dream," Rep. Jeff Duncan, R-S.C., said."

First of all, and with regard to the selling point that the Fair Tax “… abolishes the abusive Internal Revenue Service …”, in its place Duncan’s proposal creates two new tax collecting agencies, an “Excise Tax Bureau” and the “Sales Tax Bureau", in addition to keeping the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms alive which will also be collecting taxes.

Also, the alleged “Fair Tax”, if adopted, does not abolish federal taxes calculated from various types of “incomes” as suggested. Congress will still maintain the power to lay and collect “excise taxes” calculated from profits and gains, such as the Corporate Excise tax of 1909. So, right from the beginning, Rep. Duncan is suggesting something that is not true. The same IRS abuses now suffered under income taxation will continue under the fraudulent and deceptive Fair Tax, carried out under its “Excise Tax Bureau”.

And if you think businesses and individuals subject to the Fair Tax are free from filling out annual tax returns, the shocking truth is, they will have to start filling out and filing Fair Tax returns, under the penalty of perjury, every month ___ that’s twelve frickin times a year! Additionally, even ordinary working people, who sell the property each has in their own labor, and work odd jobs, such as baby sitting, handyman jobs etc., to meet today’s high cost of living, not only will they have to file Fair Tax returns twelve times a year, but will have to register with the federal government to exercise their inalienable right to sell their labor.

If the above is not enough to make one recoil from the notoriously evil and deceptive Fair Tax proposal, the Fair Tax would also create another entitlement called the “family consumption allowance”, which is a monthly government check sent to every household in America which allows the purchase of a rationed supply of tax-free necessities of life, and puts our entire population on the public dole!

If Rep. Duncan has one ounce of honesty in him, he would reject the alleged Fait Tax and promote the Fair Share Balance Budget Amendment which actually would abolish all federal taxes calculated from lawfully earned profits, gains, wages, etc. and end the miseries suffered under the evil tax on incomes.

JWK

When Federal Reserve Notes were made a legal tender in violation of our Constitution, and a direct un-apportioned tax was imposed upon the people without their consent, America’s free enterprise, free market system was subjugated, and the tools of oppression were made available to some very immoral and nefariously evil people.
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It is fair because there are no loopholes and almost no way to cheat, things the left always accuse the rich of, using loopholes and cheating. This should be the holy grail for the left. Everyone will pay their fair share.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Which ones of what?

Which ones would you cut?