How About We Elect Our Presidents By Popular Vote?

[progressive hunter]

You know I’m right.

not so far,,

 

[BS Filter]

As a nation of States with the Presidency being the only office all the States vote for, bad idea. Our founders were brilliant.

 

[BS Filter]

The fascist minority -- the Republicans -- knows they'll never win the popular vote again. Hence they won't accept any reform.

Are you a member of antifa?

 

[struth]

As a nation of States with the Presidency being the only office all the States vote for, bad idea. Our founders were brilliant.

right?? we could be far less democratic and be like Europe that allows the legislative vote to elect the head of the executive…look at UK, Germany etc that do that to elect their Prime Minister

 

[Crepitus]

You just contradicted your dumbass self.

Only of you're too stupid to understand what I said.

 

[BS Filter]

right?? we could be far less democratic and be like Europe that allows the legislative vote to elect the head of the executive…look at UK, Germany etc that do that to elect their Prime Minister

The EC is a combination, popular vote to win the State, then a combination of House and Senators for the EC.

 

[struth]

The EC is a combination, popular vote to win the State, then a combination of House and Senators for the EC.

correct each state has the number of electors as the combination of their representatives in Congress, the larger the population the bigger the number

most states have a winner take all system where whoever wins the popular vote in the state gets all the electors

 

[BS Filter]

correct each state has the number of electors as the combination of their representatives in Congress, the larger the population the bigger the number

most states have a winner take all system where whoever wins the popular vote in the state gets all the electors

Correct. I think Maine and Nebraska are the exception. I could be wrong.

 

[struth]

Correct. I think Maine and Nebraska are the exception. I could be wrong.

there are a few left wing control states that have passed laws that ignore the will of the people of their states and require the electors to vote for whomever wins the national popular vote regardless of how the people vote

 

[Lastamender]

Only of you're too stupid to understand what I said.

I am not the one who said something was made up and then give an example of it happening.

 

[Crepitus]

I am not the one who said something was made up and then give an example of it happening.

Proof accepted. Thanks.

 

[Grumblenuts]

there are a few left wing control states that have passed laws that ignore the will of the people of their states and require the electors to vote for whomever wins the national popular vote regardless of how the people vote

Only "a few left wing states", eh? LOL

As of April 26, 2021, the bill has been enacted into law in 16 jurisdictions possessing 195 electoral votes, including 4 small states (Delaware, Hawaii, Rhode Island, Vermont), 8 medium-sized states (Colorado, Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Washington), 3 big states (California, Illinois, New York), and the District of Columbia.

The bill will take effect when enacted by states possessing an additional 75 electoral votes.

Like it or not.. it's coming.. so eat your Wheaties!

 

[sparky]

Only "a few left wing states", eh? LOL

Like it or not.. it's coming.. so eat your Wheaties!

good one Grumbly one

~S~

 

[candycorn]

Whatever system we have is going to have to be good for every situation. The straight popular vote is bad because if you have 3 or 4 viable candidates where one gets 31% and the other three all get 23%, the winner gets less than a third of the votes cast.

 

[Grumblenuts]

The founding fathers thought that only the white male landed gentry should have the right to vote as well. Times have changed. In a popular vote scenario, every vote weighs the same. Isn’t that the way it should be?

Hell, as a registered independent I can't even vote in my State's presidential primaries. This probably won't even affect that.

Dirty Harry: You've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel equally empowered while voting for President? Well, do ya, punk?

 

[Grumblenuts]

Whatever system we have is going to have to be good for every situation. The straight popular vote is bad because if you have 3 or 4 viable candidates where one gets 31% and the other three all get 23%, the winner gets less than a third of the votes cast.

Where's the problem? The winner is seldom elected by more than a plurality as it is. More choices would be wonderful.

 

[Lastamender]

Only "a few left wing states", eh? LOL

Like it or not.. it's coming.. so eat your Wheaties!

The bill please.

 

[MinTrut]

Not talking about eliminating the Electoral College here necessarily. Just bypassing it for the Presidential races. This is an initiative that's proven popular and non-partisan. Why do we still tolerate them only having to campaign in a few "swing" states?

Agreement Among the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote

One-page explanation (PDF) The National Popular Vote law will guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. It will apply the one-person-one-vote principle to presidential elections, and make every vote equal. Why a...

www.nationalpopularvote.com

Listen to a great discussion by clicking the play button at the bottom here:

Why Do We Still Have The Electoral College?

Ralph welcomes Harvard history professor, Alex Keyssar, scholar of voting rights and author of “Why Do We Still Have The Electoral College?” to discuss the battle over the Electoral College and the role white supremacy played in conceiving and perpetuating it. Then, we welcome back Steve Silberstein

www.ralphnaderradiohour.com

I'm sorry - this is the most ill-informed OP I've yet to see here, and when one considers the competition...

 

[MinTrut]

Adios.

Just too dumb to have an adult conversation

Just spectacularly idiotic.

 

[struth]

Only "a few left wing states", eh? LOL

Like it or not.. it's coming.. so eat your Wheaties!

yeah a few leftist states