How Can We Stop Future Stolen Elections?

[Missouri_Mike]

This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

If we don’t stop this one we will never get it done.

I'm sure you're like doing shit and stuff.

I notice you aren’t defending your votes. Why would you not want to prove your win through verification?

The win was proven. I fully accept that Joe Biden received more of the popular vote as well as won the electoral college and they voted and that number came out to 306 - 232, which technically was better than Trump in 2016.

Now, am I interested in convincing you? No, there isn't any reason or incentive to do so.

Wasn’t proven at all. As a matter of fact every time you block an inquiry. You prove you didn’t win.

Nobody with a functioning brain thinks bidumb won the most votes in history. You don’t think that either.

Read the last sentence of my previous post.

I'm sure though that whining on USMB will make all the difference in the world, crybaby.

Nothing in your post was worth a fuck. First to last.

 

[ThisIsMe]

This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

National voter registry & national voter id card. Both must be renewed on a regular basis. All registrations must be compared to deaths and incarcerations every year.
Once that card is used in an election as required that person can not vote again until the next election.

That would solve 90% or more of our problems.

But we don’t have a problem with dead people voting or people voting twice.

Have any republicans got away with it?

You guys want voter ids so poor people won’t get them and vote. I say mail in votes are the way in the future. If it was good enough for trump then it’s good enough for the rest of us.

How does requiring an ID disenfrancise anyone? If they are provided free of charge, and you have like 2 more years before the mid terms, plenty of time to get it done. If it is a way to ensure better vote security, how is that a bad thing?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

National voter registry & national voter id card. Both must be renewed on a regular basis. All registrations must be compared to deaths and incarcerations every year.
Once that card is used in an election as required that person can not vote again until the next election.

That would solve 90% or more of our problems.

But we don’t have a problem with dead people voting or people voting twice.

Have any republicans got away with it?

You guys want voter ids so poor people won’t get them and vote. I say mail in votes are the way in the future. If it was good enough for trump then it’s good enough for the rest of us.

How does requiring an ID disenfrancise anyone? If they are provided free of charge, and you have like 2 more years before the mid terms, plenty of time to get it done. If it is a way to ensure better vote security, how is that a bad thing?

Liberal racism. They think minorities are TOO STUPID to find a way down to the dmv in a two year period.

 

[DrLove]

Did their signature match the one on my driver's license? HELL no!!

It doesn't matter. My father went to the polls one year to vote, and because of his arm surgery, he couldn't sign his name the way he usually did, so they stopped him. He showed them the surgery scar on his right arm, he presented two valid forms of ID, and all he was allowed to do is fill out a provisional ballot.

I myself went a few election periods to vote, and was turned away because I wasn't in the system they claimed. So I had my voter registration card, but lost it prior, and figured oh well all I have to do is show my driver's license. Nope they said, otherwise they said that if my voter card wasn't renewed I couldn't vote. Huh ?

What state? I think they may have pulled a fast one unless they made it crystal clear you must register for each year in the beginning or lose your right to vote.

Yep, they pulled a fast one, and I must say I fell for it.

So now you kids wanna make everyone register to vote every year?

 

[DrLove]

There you go! It sounds like it's impossible to vote for someone else.

Not impossible, but improbable. Voting in person is the most secure way to vote.

Simply not true ^ The five states with all mail-in have had less fraud.
Choose your source

the five states with all mail in voting have found less fraud

You can't prove fraud until you find it. From what I understand, the Governor of Michigan had all machines locked down where nobody could get to them.

^ Reminds me of “can’t prove Bigfoot doesn’t exist until ya find him. Every time someone’s about to take a picture, he darts into the bushes!”

Ray, just stop it. All of you stop it! We’re screwed as a country if ya don’t.

 

[Christ_on_a_croissant]

Mass mail in voting was an unfortunate one-off and shall never be repeated.

You better talk to the GOP. They’ve been pushing mail in voting for years

 

[XponentialChaos]

The system is fine. People just don't know how to lose.

Take it from me, a 49er fan - you win some and you lose some. It's that simple.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You better talk to the GOP. They’ve been pushing mail in voting for years

Hmmm. I've been a GOP'r for over 30 years. I don't recall anybody pushing for it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Reminds me of “can’t prove Bigfoot doesn’t exist until ya find him. Every time someone’s about to take a picture, he darts into the bushes!”

Ray, just stop it. All of you stop it! We’re screwed as a country if ya don’t.

We're screwed as a country if we do. You realize of course you put a fragile frail old man with dementia in charge of the most powerful country on earth, don't you?

 

[Lesh]

This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

National voter registry & national voter id card. Both must be renewed on a regular basis. All registrations must be compared to deaths and incarcerations every year.
Once that card is used in an election as required that person can not vote again until the next election.

That would solve 90% or more of our problems.

But we don’t have a problem with dead people voting or people voting twice.

Have any republicans got away with it?

You guys want voter ids so poor people won’t get them and vote. I say mail in votes are the way in the future. If it was good enough for trump then it’s good enough for the rest of us.

How does requiring an ID disenfrancise anyone? If they are provided free of charge, and you have like 2 more years before the mid terms, plenty of time to get it done. If it is a way to ensure better vote security, how is that a bad thing?

Liberal racism. They think minorities are TOO STUPID to find a way down to the dmv in a two year period.

Voter IDs are so yesterday.

Republicans are going for other means of voter disenfranchisement since most people now have picture IDs

 

[candycorn]

The election was not stolen. Those who keep claiming it was should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[candycorn]

Reminds me of “can’t prove Bigfoot doesn’t exist until ya find him. Every time someone’s about to take a picture, he darts into the bushes!”

Ray, just stop it. All of you stop it! We’re screwed as a country if ya don’t.

We're screwed as a country if we do. You realize of course you put a fragile frail old man with dementia in charge of the most powerful country on earth, don't you?

Yeah but he's leaving office on 1/20.

 

[candycorn]

This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

National voter registry & national voter id card. Both must be renewed on a regular basis. All registrations must be compared to deaths and incarcerations every year.
Once that card is used in an election as required that person can not vote again until the next election.

That would solve 90% or more of our problems.

But we don’t have a problem with dead people voting or people voting twice.

Have any republicans got away with it?

You guys want voter ids so poor people won’t get them and vote. I say mail in votes are the way in the future. If it was good enough for trump then it’s good enough for the rest of us.

How does requiring an ID disenfrancise anyone? If they are provided free of charge, and you have like 2 more years before the mid terms, plenty of time to get it done. If it is a way to ensure better vote security, how is that a bad thing?

Liberal racism. They think minorities are TOO STUPID to find a way down to the dmv in a two year period.

Voter IDs are so yesterday.

Republicans are going for other means of voter disenfranchisement since most people now have picture IDs

That is the real reason they're against vote-by-mail... they don't want people voting.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Then don't allow Trump to vote by mail...

Trump did not vote by mail, you incredible partisan dumbass!

Trump, While Attacking Mail Voting, Casts Mail Ballot Again

He voted by mail in Tuesday's Florida primaries but avoided the Postal Service, instead opting to give his ballot to a third party to turn in, a practice Republicans call "ballot harvesting."

www.npr.org

By law, in Florida, he used an absentee ballot that was delivered by a third party. He followed the law, unlike Dems in other states.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

This election was not stolen.

Donald Trump couldn't stand the fact the only reason he is President in the first place is that he got leg up by Putin.

This election was supposed to show Trump could make it on his own, especially with the huge advantage of being the incumbent.

That's why Trump is whining. He knows he does not belong in the office, and never did. His ego is shattered.

One term president. I’ve seen 3 in my lifetime. Two were republicans.

Carter would have been re elected but Reagan’s vp was head of th3 cia and he got Iran to hold onto the hostages until after the election. Then years later the Iran contra affair where bush and Reagan had to reward Iran for their help.

Hey shit for brains! Bush was NOT director of the CIA from 1977 to 1981, Your statement is a bald-faced lie!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

This election was not stolen.

Donald Trump couldn't stand the fact the only reason he is President in the first place is that he got leg up by Putin.

This election was supposed to show Trump could make it on his own, especially with the huge advantage of being the incumbent.

That's why Trump is whining. He knows he does not belong in the office, and never did. His ego is shattered.

One term president. I’ve seen 3 in my lifetime. Two were republicans.

Carter would have been re elected but Reagan’s vp was head of th3 cia and he got Iran to hold onto the hostages until after the election. Then years later the Iran contra affair where bush and Reagan had to reward Iran for their help.

Conspiracy theories abound.

Carter lost because he sucked.

Bush lost because of Perot. And because of his welching on "read my lips, no new taxes".

Trump lost because of Trump.

I dont know how you can look at all the facts and not believe jeb and Catherine Harris rigged florida.

So fucking obvious. In fact it was so obvious even Fox News called it for gore. Then suddenly, mysteriously Carl rove said wait a minute, as if he knew something was coming.

Hacked diebold voting machines.

For god sakes Catherine Harris changed the paper ballots to a thinner paper knowing it would result in hang8ng chads.

All of you listen. The Supreme Court knew its they looked closer we’d see Florida was stolen. So they stopped the recount and gave it to bush. I truly believe they were deep state republicans. Bush had to win. He had already planned out with panic his invasion of Iraq long before 2000.

They threw away democratic votes and stuffed ballots with dead republican votes.

Republicans are so sure it happened this year because they know they did all these things in 2000. Then ken Blackwell stole Ohio in 2004

You got your facts wrong, moron. For one thing, your sequence of events is wrong. The election was originally called for Bush, an Biden was going to concede. Then some Dim election fraudsters talked him out of it. No Democrats votes were "thrown away."

You account of the events is totally fictional.

Bush and Biden? Man, are you confused!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

People voted by mail and Trump lost so no one gets to vote by mail anymore.

Pretty much the equivalent of taking your ball and going home.

The dead and illegal aliens voted by the millions, and democrats voted multiple times.

This was the most corrupt election in American history. Boss Tweed is rolling in his grave with envy.

9/11 pails in comparison at the degree of unforeseen cooperation in an act that was so covert it was overt and passed by the eyes of millions...

Pails? You dumbass!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

People didn't know that wearing a mask would defeat Covid either

Because it clearly hasn't.

We cannot defeat COVID when the leader of the country has given up on it. He waved the white flag a couple months ago.

WA gov. Jay Inslee has resisted, indeed sued, the Trump administration EVERY time Trump made attempts to help in the state. A hospital ship was sent to Seattle to treat covid patients but Inslee claimed states rights and shipped covid infected patients to long term care facilities with vulnerable population resulting in many deaths. Inslee also shipped covid infected patients 300 miles away to an area that had no cases prior. That is how democrat governors responded nationwide. Let's quarantine infected people with the weak. SMH

There was no hospital ship in Washington. It was in LA!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I used to wonder how that asshole McCain won the primary when he is hated by conservatives. I now know that answer as well.

You mean the American Hero John McCain, who actually served in Vietnam and didn't rely on college deferments and bone spurs that were faked by a Doctor doing a favor for Fred trump? Is that the McCain that you are referring to?

His father was an admiral, so I hardly think dodging the draft would have been an option for him. He was the biggest fuckup who ever got through OCS, He crashed three planes and caused a huge conflagration on the deck of his ship that killed dozens of sailors.

He's hardly a hero.

That's a lie and anyone who ever served....especially those in the Navy....know that to be a lie.

I guess he doesn't know that McCain attended the Naval A

I used to wonder how that asshole McCain won the primary when he is hated by conservatives. I now know that answer as well.

You mean the American Hero John McCain, who actually served in Vietnam and didn't rely on college deferments and bone spurs that were faked by a Doctor doing a favor for Fred trump? Is that the McCain that you are referring to?

His father was an admiral, so I hardly think dodging the draft would have been an option for him. He was the biggest fuckup who ever got through OCS, He crashed three planes and caused a huge conflagration on the deck of his ship that killed dozens of sailors.

He's hardly a hero.

That's a lie and anyone who ever served....especially those in the Navy....know that to be a lie.

I guess he doesn't know that McCain went to the Naval Academy and thus did not go through OCS. The conflagration was caused by a missile fired from an F-4 Phantom II striking the plane next to McCain.

 

[MisterBeale]

This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.