How Can You Be A Socialist….

[Rustic]

I'm against socialism for a fairly simple reason: I prefer low taxes and a minimum of government bureaucracy in my life. Believe it or not, I'm a big boy who doesn't need any government to babysit me.

Will you always be a big boy and never need help? The problem is people change, and someday you may be just another old sick boy. But not only do people change but economies change. A number of all those proud big boys in 1929 ended up in a bread line, scared and hungry.

1. "Will you always be a big boy and never need help?"

Do you have life insurance?

Savings?

2. "A number of all those proud big boys in 1929 ended up in a bread line,..."

Are you referring to the economic downturn that Franklin Roosevelt engineered into a depression, one that lasted five times longer than any other such downturn in American history?

Downturn? You have no idea of that period, or what happened do you? Why didn't Hoover stop the downturn he had ample time if it was only a downturn. And what of the Republicans plan to end the downturn. Does America even know what the Republican plan was, and did the Republican plan work? The only plan I know they might have had, was "balance the budget."

1. "A number of all those proud big boys in 1929 ended up in a bread line,..."

Let's start here:

Are you referring to the economic downturn that Franklin Roosevelt engineered into a depression, one that lasted five times longer than any other such downturn in American history?

Is this true or not????


Let me help, you dunce:

2. Roosevelt took a recession and expanded it into a decade long Depression.


3. For comparison:

a. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."

Know how many there were?

Over thirty. And the average length was a year or so.

List of recessions in the United States - List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia


b. "The Great Depression (1929-39) was the deepest and longest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..."The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com


How ya' like dat, boyyyyeeeeeee?????

I like it, because you say Hoover had plenty if time to end the depression before FDR ever took office. In fact, is it possible that Hoover screwed up the depression so badly that only an FDR could get the nation back on track, That certainly explains the historians rating FDR as America's best president and the people electing FDR four times,
Now I suppose you believe that since Hoover extended the depression until FDR arrived in office he should get some kind of award?

FDR was a fucking control freak

 

[regent]

Will you always be a big boy and never need help? The problem is people change, and someday you may be just another old sick boy. But not only do people change but economies change. A number of all those proud big boys in 1929 ended up in a bread line, scared and hungry.

1. "Will you always be a big boy and never need help?"

Do you have life insurance?

Savings?

2. "A number of all those proud big boys in 1929 ended up in a bread line,..."

Are you referring to the economic downturn that Franklin Roosevelt engineered into a depression, one that lasted five times longer than any other such downturn in American history?

Downturn? You have no idea of that period, or what happened do you? Why didn't Hoover stop the downturn he had ample time if it was only a downturn. And what of the Republicans plan to end the downturn. Does America even know what the Republican plan was, and did the Republican plan work? The only plan I know they might have had, was "balance the budget."

1. "A number of all those proud big boys in 1929 ended up in a bread line,..."

Let's start here:

Are you referring to the economic downturn that Franklin Roosevelt engineered into a depression, one that lasted five times longer than any other such downturn in American history?

Is this true or not????


Let me help, you dunce:

2. Roosevelt took a recession and expanded it into a decade long Depression.


3. For comparison:

a. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."

Know how many there were?

Over thirty. And the average length was a year or so.

List of recessions in the United States - List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia


b. "The Great Depression (1929-39) was the deepest and longest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..."The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com


How ya' like dat, boyyyyeeeeeee?????

I like it, because you say Hoover had plenty if time to end the depression before FDR ever took office. In fact, is it possible that Hoover screwed up the depression so badly that only an FDR could get the nation back on track, That certainly explains the historians rating FDR as America's best president and the people electing FDR four times,
Now I suppose you believe that since Hoover extended the depression until FDR arrived in office he should get some kind of award?

FDR was a fucking control freak

Yes indeedy, FDR controlled the presidency as few other presidents. So how's Trump doing? Think Trump will replace FDR as America's best president?

 

[Rustic]

1. "Will you always be a big boy and never need help?"

Do you have life insurance?

Savings?

2. "A number of all those proud big boys in 1929 ended up in a bread line,..."

Are you referring to the economic downturn that Franklin Roosevelt engineered into a depression, one that lasted five times longer than any other such downturn in American history?

Downturn? You have no idea of that period, or what happened do you? Why didn't Hoover stop the downturn he had ample time if it was only a downturn. And what of the Republicans plan to end the downturn. Does America even know what the Republican plan was, and did the Republican plan work? The only plan I know they might have had, was "balance the budget."

1. "A number of all those proud big boys in 1929 ended up in a bread line,..."

Let's start here:

Are you referring to the economic downturn that Franklin Roosevelt engineered into a depression, one that lasted five times longer than any other such downturn in American history?

Is this true or not????


Let me help, you dunce:

2. Roosevelt took a recession and expanded it into a decade long Depression.


3. For comparison:

a. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."

Know how many there were?

Over thirty. And the average length was a year or so.

List of recessions in the United States - List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia


b. "The Great Depression (1929-39) was the deepest and longest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..."The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com


How ya' like dat, boyyyyeeeeeee?????

I like it, because you say Hoover had plenty if time to end the depression before FDR ever took office. In fact, is it possible that Hoover screwed up the depression so badly that only an FDR could get the nation back on track, That certainly explains the historians rating FDR as America's best president and the people electing FDR four times,
Now I suppose you believe that since Hoover extended the depression until FDR arrived in office he should get some kind of award?

FDR was a fucking control freak

Yes indeedy, FDR controlled the presidency as few other presidents. So how's Trump doing? Think Trump will replace FDR as America's best president?

FDR was just a dictator​

 

[regent]

Downturn? You have no idea of that period, or what happened do you? Why didn't Hoover stop the downturn he had ample time if it was only a downturn. And what of the Republicans plan to end the downturn. Does America even know what the Republican plan was, and did the Republican plan work? The only plan I know they might have had, was "balance the budget."

1. "A number of all those proud big boys in 1929 ended up in a bread line,..."

Let's start here:

Are you referring to the economic downturn that Franklin Roosevelt engineered into a depression, one that lasted five times longer than any other such downturn in American history?

Is this true or not????


Let me help, you dunce:

2. Roosevelt took a recession and expanded it into a decade long Depression.


3. For comparison:

a. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."

Know how many there were?

Over thirty. And the average length was a year or so.

List of recessions in the United States - List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia


b. "The Great Depression (1929-39) was the deepest and longest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..."The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com


How ya' like dat, boyyyyeeeeeee?????

I like it, because you say Hoover had plenty if time to end the depression before FDR ever took office. In fact, is it possible that Hoover screwed up the depression so badly that only an FDR could get the nation back on track, That certainly explains the historians rating FDR as America's best president and the people electing FDR four times,
Now I suppose you believe that since Hoover extended the depression until FDR arrived in office he should get some kind of award?

FDR was a fucking control freak

Yes indeedy, FDR controlled the presidency as few other presidents. So how's Trump doing? Think Trump will replace FDR as America's best president?

FDR was just a dictator​

Downturn? You have no idea of that period, or what happened do you? Why didn't Hoover stop the downturn he had ample time if it was only a downturn. And what of the Republicans plan to end the downturn. Does America even know what the Republican plan was, and did the Republican plan work? The only plan I know they might have had, was "balance the budget."

1. "A number of all those proud big boys in 1929 ended up in a bread line,..."

Let's start here:

Are you referring to the economic downturn that Franklin Roosevelt engineered into a depression, one that lasted five times longer than any other such downturn in American history?

Is this true or not????


Let me help, you dunce:

2. Roosevelt took a recession and expanded it into a decade long Depression.


3. For comparison:

a. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."

Know how many there were?

Over thirty. And the average length was a year or so.

List of recessions in the United States - List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia


b. "The Great Depression (1929-39) was the deepest and longest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..."The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com


How ya' like dat, boyyyyeeeeeee?????

I like it, because you say Hoover had plenty if time to end the depression before FDR ever took office. In fact, is it possible that Hoover screwed up the depression so badly that only an FDR could get the nation back on track, That certainly explains the historians rating FDR as America's best president and the people electing FDR four times,
Now I suppose you believe that since Hoover extended the depression until FDR arrived in office he should get some kind of award?

FDR was a fucking control freak

Yes indeedy, FDR controlled the presidency as few other presidents. So how's Trump doing? Think Trump will replace FDR as America's best president?

FDR was just a dictator​

A few presidents were popular enough that they could have become dictators and FDR Is probably one that might have made it along with Washington and a few others, but at the end of FDR's life and four elections the nation resumed its normal course.

 

[Bush92]

...and have any self respect?
After all, if your worth is due to that which is taken from someone else, someone who earned it....your value is nothing more than the vote you offer up to your patron, big government.

In full disclosure, the title of the thread is just as cogent if other terms are substituted for 'socialist,' terms such as communist, fascist, Progressive, Nazi or modern Liberal.

1. "Socialism is the end of all invention; it is the happy face of slavery. Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems good to themselves than by compelling each to live as seems good to the rest" - J.S. Mill




2. " Capitalism is the only moral system because it requires human beings to deal with one another as traders–that is, as free moral agents trading and selling goods and services on the basis of mutual consent.

Capitalism is the only just system because the sole criterion that determines the value of thing exchanged is the free, voluntary, universal judgement of the consumer. Coercion and fraud are anathema to the free-market system.

It is both moral and just because the degree to which man rises or falls in society is determined by the degree to which he uses his mind. Capitalism is the only social system that rewards merit, ability and achievement, regardless of one’s birth or station in life."

The requirements for success in a free society demand that ordinary citizens order their lives in accordance with certain virtues–namely, rationality, independence, industriousness, prudence, frugality, etc. In a free capitalist society individuals must choose for themselves how they will order their lives and the values they will pursue. Under socialism, most of life’s decisions are made for you.




3. Under socialism a ruling class of intellectuals, bureaucrats and social planners decide what people want or what is good for society and then use the coercive power of the State to regulate, tax, and redistribute the wealth of those who work for a living. In other words, socialism is a form of legalized theft.

The morality of socialism can be summed-up in two words: envy and self-sacrifice.
Envy is the desire to not only possess another’s wealth but also the desire to see another’s wealth lowered to the level of one’s own.

Socialism’s teaching on self-sacrifice was nicely summarized by two of its greatest defenders, Hermann Goering and Bennito Mussolini.

The highest principle of Nazism (National Socialism), said Goering, is: “Common good comes before private good.”

Fascism, said Mussolini, is ” a life in which the individual, through the sacrifice of his own private interests…realizes that completely spiritual existence in which his value as a man lies.



4. Sadly, America is no longer a capitalist nation. We live under what is more properly called a mixed economy–that is, an economic system that permits private property, but only at the discretion of government planners. A little bit of capitalism and a little bit of socialism.

When government redistributes wealth through taxation, when it attempts to control and regulate business production and trade, who are the winners and losers? Under this kind of economy the winners and losers are reversed: the winners are those who scream the loudest for a handout and the losers are those quiet citizens who work hard and pay their taxes." Socialism vs. Capitalism: Which is the Moral System | Ashbrook



Nazi...national socialism....based on nationalism and/or race...
Communism....international socialism.

1.) Go to American public school.
2.) Go to college in America,
3.) Live in Hollywood
4.) Have a mental illness.

 

[regent]

...and have any self respect?
After all, if your worth is due to that which is taken from someone else, someone who earned it....your value is nothing more than the vote you offer up to your patron, big government.

In full disclosure, the title of the thread is just as cogent if other terms are substituted for 'socialist,' terms such as communist, fascist, Progressive, Nazi or modern Liberal.

1. "Socialism is the end of all invention; it is the happy face of slavery. Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems good to themselves than by compelling each to live as seems good to the rest" - J.S. Mill




2. " Capitalism is the only moral system because it requires human beings to deal with one another as traders–that is, as free moral agents trading and selling goods and services on the basis of mutual consent.

Capitalism is the only just system because the sole criterion that determines the value of thing exchanged is the free, voluntary, universal judgement of the consumer. Coercion and fraud are anathema to the free-market system.

It is both moral and just because the degree to which man rises or falls in society is determined by the degree to which he uses his mind. Capitalism is the only social system that rewards merit, ability and achievement, regardless of one’s birth or station in life."

The requirements for success in a free society demand that ordinary citizens order their lives in accordance with certain virtues–namely, rationality, independence, industriousness, prudence, frugality, etc. In a free capitalist society individuals must choose for themselves how they will order their lives and the values they will pursue. Under socialism, most of life’s decisions are made for you.




3. Under socialism a ruling class of intellectuals, bureaucrats and social planners decide what people want or what is good for society and then use the coercive power of the State to regulate, tax, and redistribute the wealth of those who work for a living. In other words, socialism is a form of legalized theft.

The morality of socialism can be summed-up in two words: envy and self-sacrifice.
Envy is the desire to not only possess another’s wealth but also the desire to see another’s wealth lowered to the level of one’s own.

Socialism’s teaching on self-sacrifice was nicely summarized by two of its greatest defenders, Hermann Goering and Bennito Mussolini.

The highest principle of Nazism (National Socialism), said Goering, is: “Common good comes before private good.”

Fascism, said Mussolini, is ” a life in which the individual, through the sacrifice of his own private interests…realizes that completely spiritual existence in which his value as a man lies.



4. Sadly, America is no longer a capitalist nation. We live under what is more properly called a mixed economy–that is, an economic system that permits private property, but only at the discretion of government planners. A little bit of capitalism and a little bit of socialism.

When government redistributes wealth through taxation, when it attempts to control and regulate business production and trade, who are the winners and losers? Under this kind of economy the winners and losers are reversed: the winners are those who scream the loudest for a handout and the losers are those quiet citizens who work hard and pay their taxes." Socialism vs. Capitalism: Which is the Moral System | Ashbrook



Nazi...national socialism....based on nationalism and/or race...
Communism....international socialism.

1.) Go to American public school.
2.) Go to college in America,
3.) Live in Hollywood
4.) Have a mental illness.

 

[regent]

'when has the USA not been under a mixed economy?

 

[bripat9643]

1. "A number of all those proud big boys in 1929 ended up in a bread line,..."

Let's start here:

Are you referring to the economic downturn that Franklin Roosevelt engineered into a depression, one that lasted five times longer than any other such downturn in American history?

Is this true or not????


Let me help, you dunce:

2. Roosevelt took a recession and expanded it into a decade long Depression.


3. For comparison:

a. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."

Know how many there were?

Over thirty. And the average length was a year or so.

List of recessions in the United States - List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia


b. "The Great Depression (1929-39) was the deepest and longest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..."The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com


How ya' like dat, boyyyyeeeeeee?????

I like it, because you say Hoover had plenty if time to end the depression before FDR ever took office. In fact, is it possible that Hoover screwed up the depression so badly that only an FDR could get the nation back on track, That certainly explains the historians rating FDR as America's best president and the people electing FDR four times,
Now I suppose you believe that since Hoover extended the depression until FDR arrived in office he should get some kind of award?

FDR was a fucking control freak

Yes indeedy, FDR controlled the presidency as few other presidents. So how's Trump doing? Think Trump will replace FDR as America's best president?

FDR was just a dictator​

1. "A number of all those proud big boys in 1929 ended up in a bread line,..."

Let's start here:

Are you referring to the economic downturn that Franklin Roosevelt engineered into a depression, one that lasted five times longer than any other such downturn in American history?

Is this true or not????


Let me help, you dunce:

2. Roosevelt took a recession and expanded it into a decade long Depression.


3. For comparison:

a. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."

Know how many there were?

Over thirty. And the average length was a year or so.

List of recessions in the United States - List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia


b. "The Great Depression (1929-39) was the deepest and longest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..."The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com


How ya' like dat, boyyyyeeeeeee?????

I like it, because you say Hoover had plenty if time to end the depression before FDR ever took office. In fact, is it possible that Hoover screwed up the depression so badly that only an FDR could get the nation back on track, That certainly explains the historians rating FDR as America's best president and the people electing FDR four times,
Now I suppose you believe that since Hoover extended the depression until FDR arrived in office he should get some kind of award?

FDR was a fucking control freak

Yes indeedy, FDR controlled the presidency as few other presidents. So how's Trump doing? Think Trump will replace FDR as America's best president?

FDR was just a dictator​

A few presidents were popular enough that they could have become dictators and FDR Is probably one that might have made it along with Washington and a few others, but at the end of FDR's life and four elections the nation resumed its normal course.

Actually , FDR drastically altered the country for the worst. Prior to his reign, the welfare state didn't exist. I don't know how anyone can claim that the nation was the same after FDR.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So what does America use today on Republican downturns in the economy, spending ala FDR, or balancing the budget ala Republicans.

So you agree with every charge I have leveled at Roosevelt....but continue to carry his water....

Exactly as I described you.

 

[bripat9643]

Will you always be a big boy and never need help? The problem is people change, and someday you may be just another old sick boy. But not only do people change but economies change. A number of all those proud big boys in 1929 ended up in a bread line, scared and hungry.

1. "Will you always be a big boy and never need help?"

Do you have life insurance?

Savings?

2. "A number of all those proud big boys in 1929 ended up in a bread line,..."

Are you referring to the economic downturn that Franklin Roosevelt engineered into a depression, one that lasted five times longer than any other such downturn in American history?

Downturn? You have no idea of that period, or what happened do you? Why didn't Hoover stop the downturn he had ample time if it was only a downturn. And what of the Republicans plan to end the downturn. Does America even know what the Republican plan was, and did the Republican plan work? The only plan I know they might have had, was "balance the budget."

1. "A number of all those proud big boys in 1929 ended up in a bread line,..."

Let's start here:

Are you referring to the economic downturn that Franklin Roosevelt engineered into a depression, one that lasted five times longer than any other such downturn in American history?

Is this true or not????


Let me help, you dunce:

2. Roosevelt took a recession and expanded it into a decade long Depression.


3. For comparison:

a. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."

Know how many there were?

Over thirty. And the average length was a year or so.

List of recessions in the United States - List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia


b. "The Great Depression (1929-39) was the deepest and longest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..."The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com


How ya' like dat, boyyyyeeeeeee?????

I like it, because you say Hoover had plenty if time to end the depression before FDR ever took office. In fact, is it possible that Hoover screwed up the depression so badly that only an FDR could get the nation back on track, That certainly explains the historians rating FDR as America's best president and the people electing FDR four times,
Now I suppose you believe that since Hoover extended the depression until FDR arrived in office he should get some kind of award?

FDR was a fucking control freak

He was a leftwinger, in other words.

 

[regent]

So what does America use today on Republican downturns in the economy, spending ala FDR, or balancing the budget ala Republicans.

So you agree with every charge I have leveled at Roosevelt....but continue to carry his water....

Exactly as I described you.

Can you answer the question or not?

I like it, because you say Hoover had plenty if time to end the depression before FDR ever took office. In fact, is it possible that Hoover screwed up the depression so badly that only an FDR could get the nation back on track, That certainly explains the historians rating FDR as America's best president and the people electing FDR four times,
Now I suppose you believe that since Hoover extended the depression until FDR arrived in office he should get some kind of award?

FDR was a fucking control freak

Yes indeedy, FDR controlled the presidency as few other presidents. So how's Trump doing? Think Trump will replace FDR as America's best president?

FDR was just a dictator​

I like it, because you say Hoover had plenty if time to end the depression before FDR ever took office. In fact, is it possible that Hoover screwed up the depression so badly that only an FDR could get the nation back on track, That certainly explains the historians rating FDR as America's best president and the people electing FDR four times,
Now I suppose you believe that since Hoover extended the depression until FDR arrived in office he should get some kind of award?

FDR was a fucking control freak

Yes indeedy, FDR controlled the presidency as few other presidents. So how's Trump doing? Think Trump will replace FDR as America's best president?

FDR was just a dictator​

A few presidents were popular enough that they could have become dictators and FDR Is probably one that might have made it along with Washington and a few others, but at the end of FDR's life and four elections the nation resumed its normal course.

Actually , FDR drastically altered the country for the worst. Prior to his reign, the welfare state didn't exist. I don't know how anyone can claim that the nation was the same after FDR.

The nation was not the same after FDR. That is why the American voted for FDR four times, a record of how the people felt about his presidency. Seems the historians have rated him "best president," what more evidence is needed. Maybe if you call FDR a dictator the historians will see how wrong they were.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So what does America use today on Republican downturns in the economy, spending ala FDR, or balancing the budget ala Republicans.

So you agree with every charge I have leveled at Roosevelt....but continue to carry his water....

Exactly as I described you.

Can you answer the question or not?

FDR was a fucking control freak

Yes indeedy, FDR controlled the presidency as few other presidents. So how's Trump doing? Think Trump will replace FDR as America's best president?

FDR was just a dictator​

FDR was a fucking control freak

Yes indeedy, FDR controlled the presidency as few other presidents. So how's Trump doing? Think Trump will replace FDR as America's best president?

FDR was just a dictator​

A few presidents were popular enough that they could have become dictators and FDR Is probably one that might have made it along with Washington and a few others, but at the end of FDR's life and four elections the nation resumed its normal course.

Actually , FDR drastically altered the country for the worst. Prior to his reign, the welfare state didn't exist. I don't know how anyone can claim that the nation was the same after FDR.

The nation was not the same after FDR. That is why the American voted for FDR four times, a record of how the people felt about his presidency. Seems the historians have rated him "best president," what more evidence is needed. Maybe if you call FDR a dictator the historians will see how wrong they were.

"Can you answer the question or not?"

Of course I can...after all I am an expert on Roosevelt.

FDR was a lying windbag who extended the recession into a decade long depression.
He did the same for WWII, costing untold American blood and treasure.

He did this with intent to obviate the Constitution and to ingratiate himself with Joseph 'Koba' Stalin, the world's worst homicidal dictator.


Now...a query for you.
Since you have been unable to deny any of the facts.....FACTS...that I have reported about Roosevelt, why do you continue to pretend that he be exempt from the contumely he deserves???

 

[regent]

So what does America use today on Republican downturns in the economy, spending ala FDR, or balancing the budget ala Republicans.

So you agree with every charge I have leveled at Roosevelt....but continue to carry his water....

Exactly as I described you.

Can you answer the question or not?

Yes indeedy, FDR controlled the presidency as few other presidents. So how's Trump doing? Think Trump will replace FDR as America's best president?

FDR was just a dictator​

Yes indeedy, FDR controlled the presidency as few other presidents. So how's Trump doing? Think Trump will replace FDR as America's best president?

FDR was just a dictator​

A few presidents were popular enough that they could have become dictators and FDR Is probably one that might have made it along with Washington and a few others, but at the end of FDR's life and four elections the nation resumed its normal course.

Actually , FDR drastically altered the country for the worst. Prior to his reign, the welfare state didn't exist. I don't know how anyone can claim that the nation was the same after FDR.

The nation was not the same after FDR. That is why the American voted for FDR four times, a record of how the people felt about his presidency. Seems the historians have rated him "best president," what more evidence is needed. Maybe if you call FDR a dictator the historians will see how wrong they were.

"Can you answer the question or not?"

Of course I can...after all I am an expert on Roosevelt.

FDR was a lying windbag who extended the recession into a decade long depression.
He did the same for WWII, costing untold American blood and treasure.

He did this with intent to obviate the Constitution and to ingratiate himself with Joseph 'Koba' Stalin, the world's worst homicidal dictator.


Now...a query for you.
Since you have been unable to deny any of the facts.....FACTS...that I have reported about Roosevelt, why do you continue to pretend that he be exempt from the contumely he deserves???

Your facts are your opinions dressed in hatred and ignorance. Is it a fact that FDR was a lying windbag who extended the recession into a decade long depression or just your opinion? How does one prove a fact such as a lying windbag? Do you believe that Trump lies?
You still haven't answered the question:
What policy does America use on recessions today, FDR's or the Republican method?

 

[PoliticalChic]

So what does America use today on Republican downturns in the economy, spending ala FDR, or balancing the budget ala Republicans.

So you agree with every charge I have leveled at Roosevelt....but continue to carry his water....

Exactly as I described you.

Can you answer the question or not?

FDR was just a dictator​

FDR was just a dictator​

A few presidents were popular enough that they could have become dictators and FDR Is probably one that might have made it along with Washington and a few others, but at the end of FDR's life and four elections the nation resumed its normal course.

Actually , FDR drastically altered the country for the worst. Prior to his reign, the welfare state didn't exist. I don't know how anyone can claim that the nation was the same after FDR.

The nation was not the same after FDR. That is why the American voted for FDR four times, a record of how the people felt about his presidency. Seems the historians have rated him "best president," what more evidence is needed. Maybe if you call FDR a dictator the historians will see how wrong they were.

"Can you answer the question or not?"

Of course I can...after all I am an expert on Roosevelt.

FDR was a lying windbag who extended the recession into a decade long depression.
He did the same for WWII, costing untold American blood and treasure.

He did this with intent to obviate the Constitution and to ingratiate himself with Joseph 'Koba' Stalin, the world's worst homicidal dictator.


Now...a query for you.
Since you have been unable to deny any of the facts.....FACTS...that I have reported about Roosevelt, why do you continue to pretend that he be exempt from the contumely he deserves???

Your facts are your opinions dressed in hatred and ignorance. Is it a fact that FDR was a lying windbag who extended the recession into a decade long depression or just your opinion? How does one prove a fact such as a lying windbag? Do you believe that Trump lies?
You still haven't answered the question:
What policy does America use on recessions today, FDR's or the Republican method?

Everything I've posted is, as you have found, correct and accurate.


"Is it a fact that FDR was a lying windbag who extended the recession into a decade long depression or just your opinion?"


1. Did he lie when he ran for office thus:
Roosevelt's plan, the one he ran on.

The basis of FDR's 1932 campaign to win the presidency from Herbert Hoover was his emphatic promise to the suffering American people, that he would balance the budget. Of course, he also promised that he would use the government to create jobs, and that they "had a right to a comfortable living."
American Founders | The Heritage Foundation


Roosevelt went further! The cause: "It arises from one cause only and that is the unbalanced budget at he continued failure of this administration to take effective steps to balance it!

If that budget had been fully and honestly balanced in 1930, some of the 1931 troubles would have been avoided. Even if it had been balanced in 1931, much of the extreme dip in 1932 would have been obviated. Every financial man in the country knows why this is true." Franklin D. Roosevelt: Campaign Address on the Federal Budget at Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania


a. And this: "... carrying out the plain precept of our Party, which is to reduce the cost of current Federal Government operations by 25 percent." Ibid.


FDR's promises!!!




2. What did he do for the economy as compared to previous downturns?

2. Roosevelt took a recession and expanded it into a decade long Depression.


3. For comparison:

a. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."

Know how many there were?

Over thirty. And the average length was a year or so.

List of recessions in the United States - List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia


b. "The Great Depression (1929-39) was the deepest and longest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..."The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com




Any disagreement?

NO?

Excellent.



BTW.....did he turn over half of Europe to his BFF, Stalin?

Yes or no?

 

[regent]

So what does America use today on Republican downturns in the economy, spending ala FDR, or balancing the budget ala Republicans.

So you agree with every charge I have leveled at Roosevelt....but continue to carry his water....

Exactly as I described you.

Can you answer the question or not?

A few presidents were popular enough that they could have become dictators and FDR Is probably one that might have made it along with Washington and a few others, but at the end of FDR's life and four elections the nation resumed its normal course.

Actually , FDR drastically altered the country for the worst. Prior to his reign, the welfare state didn't exist. I don't know how anyone can claim that the nation was the same after FDR.

The nation was not the same after FDR. That is why the American voted for FDR four times, a record of how the people felt about his presidency. Seems the historians have rated him "best president," what more evidence is needed. Maybe if you call FDR a dictator the historians will see how wrong they were.

"Can you answer the question or not?"

Of course I can...after all I am an expert on Roosevelt.

FDR was a lying windbag who extended the recession into a decade long depression.
He did the same for WWII, costing untold American blood and treasure.

He did this with intent to obviate the Constitution and to ingratiate himself with Joseph 'Koba' Stalin, the world's worst homicidal dictator.


Now...a query for you.
Since you have been unable to deny any of the facts.....FACTS...that I have reported about Roosevelt, why do you continue to pretend that he be exempt from the contumely he deserves???

Your facts are your opinions dressed in hatred and ignorance. Is it a fact that FDR was a lying windbag who extended the recession into a decade long depression or just your opinion? How does one prove a fact such as a lying windbag? Do you believe that Trump lies?
You still haven't answered the question:
What policy does America use on recessions today, FDR's or the Republican method?

Everything I've posted is, as you have found, correct and accurate.


"Is it a fact that FDR was a lying windbag who extended the recession into a decade long depression or just your opinion?"


1. Did he lie when he ran for office thus:
Roosevelt's plan, the one he ran on.

The basis of FDR's 1932 campaign to win the presidency from Herbert Hoover was his emphatic promise to the suffering American people, that he would balance the budget. Of course, he also promised that he would use the government to create jobs, and that they "had a right to a comfortable living."
American Founders | The Heritage Foundation


Roosevelt went further! The cause: "It arises from one cause only and that is the unbalanced budget at he continued failure of this administration to take effective steps to balance it!

If that budget had been fully and honestly balanced in 1930, some of the 1931 troubles would have been avoided. Even if it had been balanced in 1931, much of the extreme dip in 1932 would have been obviated. Every financial man in the country knows why this is true." Franklin D. Roosevelt: Campaign Address on the Federal Budget at Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania


a. And this: "... carrying out the plain precept of our Party, which is to reduce the cost of current Federal Government operations by 25 percent." Ibid.


FDR's promises!!!




2. What did he do for the economy as compared to previous downturns?

2. Roosevelt took a recession and expanded it into a decade long Depression.


3. For comparison:

a. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."

Know how many there were?

Over thirty. And the average length was a year or so.

List of recessions in the United States - List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia


b. "The Great Depression (1929-39) was the deepest and longest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..."The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com




Any disagreement?

NO?

Excellent.



BTW.....did he turn over half of Europe to his BFF, Stalin?

Yes or no?

Boy when those Republican create a depression it's a gargantuan one. As usual after the depression/recession begins the people vote in the Democrats to fix, and that is why Roosevelt had to find the means to combat a depression. When was the last recession and what party was in power?
If Trump is not impeached or doesn't resign we should be getting ready for a doozzie.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So you agree with every charge I have leveled at Roosevelt....but continue to carry his water....

Exactly as I described you.

Can you answer the question or not?

Actually , FDR drastically altered the country for the worst. Prior to his reign, the welfare state didn't exist. I don't know how anyone can claim that the nation was the same after FDR.

The nation was not the same after FDR. That is why the American voted for FDR four times, a record of how the people felt about his presidency. Seems the historians have rated him "best president," what more evidence is needed. Maybe if you call FDR a dictator the historians will see how wrong they were.

"Can you answer the question or not?"

Of course I can...after all I am an expert on Roosevelt.

FDR was a lying windbag who extended the recession into a decade long depression.
He did the same for WWII, costing untold American blood and treasure.

He did this with intent to obviate the Constitution and to ingratiate himself with Joseph 'Koba' Stalin, the world's worst homicidal dictator.


Now...a query for you.
Since you have been unable to deny any of the facts.....FACTS...that I have reported about Roosevelt, why do you continue to pretend that he be exempt from the contumely he deserves???

Your facts are your opinions dressed in hatred and ignorance. Is it a fact that FDR was a lying windbag who extended the recession into a decade long depression or just your opinion? How does one prove a fact such as a lying windbag? Do you believe that Trump lies?
You still haven't answered the question:
What policy does America use on recessions today, FDR's or the Republican method?

Everything I've posted is, as you have found, correct and accurate.


"Is it a fact that FDR was a lying windbag who extended the recession into a decade long depression or just your opinion?"


1. Did he lie when he ran for office thus:
Roosevelt's plan, the one he ran on.

The basis of FDR's 1932 campaign to win the presidency from Herbert Hoover was his emphatic promise to the suffering American people, that he would balance the budget. Of course, he also promised that he would use the government to create jobs, and that they "had a right to a comfortable living."
American Founders | The Heritage Foundation


Roosevelt went further! The cause: "It arises from one cause only and that is the unbalanced budget at he continued failure of this administration to take effective steps to balance it!

If that budget had been fully and honestly balanced in 1930, some of the 1931 troubles would have been avoided. Even if it had been balanced in 1931, much of the extreme dip in 1932 would have been obviated. Every financial man in the country knows why this is true." Franklin D. Roosevelt: Campaign Address on the Federal Budget at Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania


a. And this: "... carrying out the plain precept of our Party, which is to reduce the cost of current Federal Government operations by 25 percent." Ibid.


FDR's promises!!!




2. What did he do for the economy as compared to previous downturns?

2. Roosevelt took a recession and expanded it into a decade long Depression.


3. For comparison:

a. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."

Know how many there were?

Over thirty. And the average length was a year or so.

List of recessions in the United States - List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia


b. "The Great Depression (1929-39) was the deepest and longest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..."The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com




Any disagreement?

NO?

Excellent.



BTW.....did he turn over half of Europe to his BFF, Stalin?

Yes or no?

Boy when those Republican create a depression it's a gargantuan one. As usual after the depression/recession begins the people vote in the Democrats to fix, and that is why Roosevelt had to find the means to combat a depression. When was the last recession and what party was in power?
If Trump is not impeached or doesn't resign we should be getting ready for a doozzie.

1. "Boy when those Republican (sic) create a depression it's a gargantuan one."

You can run, but you can't hide.
So saith the Brown Bomber.

2. "As usual after the depression/recession begins the people vote in the Democrats to fix,..."
You can lie, and everyone knows it.....ten years of depression under Roosevelt.

3. "Roosevelt had to find the means to combat a depression...."
Yet he never did.
It went on, and on, and.....


4. "If Trump is not impeached or doesn't resign we should be getting ready for a doozzie."

Like this:
"Economist Paul Krugman predicts a 'global recession with no end in sight' if Trump wins
Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman predicts a "global recession with no end in sight" if Donald Trump is elected president..."
Economist Paul Krugman predicts a 'global recession with no end in sight' if Trump wins

Or this?

[Obama guru] "Steven Rattner: If ‘Trump Wins You Will See a Market Crash of Historic Proportions’
Steven Rattner: If ‘Trump Wins You Will See a Market Crash of Historic Proportions’



Or like this?

Makes you look like quite a fool, huh?

 

[danielpalos]

I like it, because you say Hoover had plenty if time to end the depression before FDR ever took office. In fact, is it possible that Hoover screwed up the depression so badly that only an FDR could get the nation back on track, That certainly explains the historians rating FDR as America's best president and the people electing FDR four times,
Now I suppose you believe that since Hoover extended the depression until FDR arrived in office he should get some kind of award?

FDR was a fucking control freak

Yes indeedy, FDR controlled the presidency as few other presidents. So how's Trump doing? Think Trump will replace FDR as America's best president?

FDR was just a dictator​

I like it, because you say Hoover had plenty if time to end the depression before FDR ever took office. In fact, is it possible that Hoover screwed up the depression so badly that only an FDR could get the nation back on track, That certainly explains the historians rating FDR as America's best president and the people electing FDR four times,
Now I suppose you believe that since Hoover extended the depression until FDR arrived in office he should get some kind of award?

FDR was a fucking control freak

Yes indeedy, FDR controlled the presidency as few other presidents. So how's Trump doing? Think Trump will replace FDR as America's best president?

FDR was just a dictator​

A few presidents were popular enough that they could have become dictators and FDR Is probably one that might have made it along with Washington and a few others, but at the end of FDR's life and four elections the nation resumed its normal course.

Actually , FDR drastically altered the country for the worst. Prior to his reign, the welfare state didn't exist. I don't know how anyone can claim that the nation was the same after FDR.

dear, it is Because, Capitalism died in 1929. Only the right wing still wonders why.

 

[danielpalos]

So what does America use today on Republican downturns in the economy, spending ala FDR, or balancing the budget ala Republicans.

So you agree with every charge I have leveled at Roosevelt....but continue to carry his water....

Exactly as I described you.

Can you answer the question or not?

Yes indeedy, FDR controlled the presidency as few other presidents. So how's Trump doing? Think Trump will replace FDR as America's best president?

FDR was just a dictator​

Yes indeedy, FDR controlled the presidency as few other presidents. So how's Trump doing? Think Trump will replace FDR as America's best president?

FDR was just a dictator​

A few presidents were popular enough that they could have become dictators and FDR Is probably one that might have made it along with Washington and a few others, but at the end of FDR's life and four elections the nation resumed its normal course.

Actually , FDR drastically altered the country for the worst. Prior to his reign, the welfare state didn't exist. I don't know how anyone can claim that the nation was the same after FDR.

The nation was not the same after FDR. That is why the American voted for FDR four times, a record of how the people felt about his presidency. Seems the historians have rated him "best president," what more evidence is needed. Maybe if you call FDR a dictator the historians will see how wrong they were.

"Can you answer the question or not?"

Of course I can...after all I am an expert on Roosevelt.

FDR was a lying windbag who extended the recession into a decade long depression.
He did the same for WWII, costing untold American blood and treasure.

He did this with intent to obviate the Constitution and to ingratiate himself with Joseph 'Koba' Stalin, the world's worst homicidal dictator.


Now...a query for you.
Since you have been unable to deny any of the facts.....FACTS...that I have reported about Roosevelt, why do you continue to pretend that he be exempt from the contumely he deserves???

FDR's brand of socialism took us from a relative third world economy and propelled us into the first world. Only the right wing, never gets it.

 

[Rustic]

So what does America use today on Republican downturns in the economy, spending ala FDR, or balancing the budget ala Republicans.

So you agree with every charge I have leveled at Roosevelt....but continue to carry his water....

Exactly as I described you.

Can you answer the question or not?

FDR was just a dictator​

FDR was just a dictator​

A few presidents were popular enough that they could have become dictators and FDR Is probably one that might have made it along with Washington and a few others, but at the end of FDR's life and four elections the nation resumed its normal course.

Actually , FDR drastically altered the country for the worst. Prior to his reign, the welfare state didn't exist. I don't know how anyone can claim that the nation was the same after FDR.

The nation was not the same after FDR. That is why the American voted for FDR four times, a record of how the people felt about his presidency. Seems the historians have rated him "best president," what more evidence is needed. Maybe if you call FDR a dictator the historians will see how wrong they were.

"Can you answer the question or not?"

Of course I can...after all I am an expert on Roosevelt.

FDR was a lying windbag who extended the recession into a decade long depression.
He did the same for WWII, costing untold American blood and treasure.

He did this with intent to obviate the Constitution and to ingratiate himself with Joseph 'Koba' Stalin, the world's worst homicidal dictator.


Now...a query for you.
Since you have been unable to deny any of the facts.....FACTS...that I have reported about Roosevelt, why do you continue to pretend that he be exempt from the contumely he deserves???

FDR's brand of socialism took us from a relative third world economy and propelled us into the first world. Only the right wing, never gets it.

Na, Great businessman have more to do with building this country than any career politicians. Fact

 

[danielpalos]

So what does America use today on Republican downturns in the economy, spending ala FDR, or balancing the budget ala Republicans.

So you agree with every charge I have leveled at Roosevelt....but continue to carry his water....

Exactly as I described you.

Can you answer the question or not?

A few presidents were popular enough that they could have become dictators and FDR Is probably one that might have made it along with Washington and a few others, but at the end of FDR's life and four elections the nation resumed its normal course.

Actually , FDR drastically altered the country for the worst. Prior to his reign, the welfare state didn't exist. I don't know how anyone can claim that the nation was the same after FDR.

The nation was not the same after FDR. That is why the American voted for FDR four times, a record of how the people felt about his presidency. Seems the historians have rated him "best president," what more evidence is needed. Maybe if you call FDR a dictator the historians will see how wrong they were.

"Can you answer the question or not?"

Of course I can...after all I am an expert on Roosevelt.

FDR was a lying windbag who extended the recession into a decade long depression.
He did the same for WWII, costing untold American blood and treasure.

He did this with intent to obviate the Constitution and to ingratiate himself with Joseph 'Koba' Stalin, the world's worst homicidal dictator.


Now...a query for you.
Since you have been unable to deny any of the facts.....FACTS...that I have reported about Roosevelt, why do you continue to pretend that he be exempt from the contumely he deserves???

FDR's brand of socialism took us from a relative third world economy and propelled us into the first world. Only the right wing, never gets it.

Na, Great businessman have more to do with building this country than any career politicians. Fact

Socialism took us to the Moon and back, last millennium. Capitalists are still looking for a profit motive.