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Adolph Hitler would be so proud the way you pass judgements on whether entire societies deserve to survive.The south created a nation whose sole purpose was to preserve slaveryYeah, I get it, the actual historical documents..have no credence with idiots..ROTFLMFAO!Your sources aren't worth the bandwidth used to post them.Indeed..shameless douche bag!Making stuff up doesn't help your case. It only proves that you're a shameless douchebag.
Remeber this/ You said Lincoln wrote this..but you're a liar..he did not.
Abraham Lincoln quarterly. [Vol. 6, no. 3]
How come Lincoln got away with shutting down hundreds of newspapers and jailed journalists
How come Lincoln got away with shutting down hundreds of newspapers and jailed journalists
As i said before..you are a liar and a fatmouth..who won't even apologize for his idiocy and inaccuracy..loser.
You're still a liar...and markedly unintelligent, to boot. I get differing opinions..but different facts? Quotes attributed falsely?
The South was not a victim..but the perpetrator of our national tragedy. Their leadership brought that bloody war about for one reason..they felt that their stranglehold on US politics was about to end..that despite a Constitutional 'false equity', counting slaves to make a false representation of their population and garner representation they were not entitled to...they could no longer be the tail that wagged the dog...so they cut and ran. We, the United States of America, decided differently..and on the battlefield, where ultimately such cases are decided..the South was crushed and the Jeffersonian political philosophy was rejected by our country.
All the whining in the world will not change this..all the historical revisions and false equivalencies will not change this. War is horrible..and Civil War the worst! But...The South could have cowed down to the rule of law..accepted that the days of slavery were numbered--made the best deal possible--and perhaps, just perhaps--the Jeffersonian ideal of sovereign individual states might have survived, in some form, at least.
The fact that it bugs you...is just an added little cherry on my Sunday...LOL!
What historical documents? You haven't posted anything from any "historical documents." You've posted the opinion of some humbug government subsidized historian.
The South was obviously the victim. Lincoln invaded the South and ended up slaughtering 850,000 people. Lincoln is the sole cause of the war. He gave the order to invade Virginia. That fact is irrefutable. Your post is nothing but an attempt to spin the facts. The 3/5 clause in the Constitution is irreleant.
You're arguing that might makes right, just as any douchebag Stalinist would.
What Lincoln did is the exact opposite of the rule of law. No law gave Lincoln the authority to invade Virginia. That's the bottom line.
You're trying to justify mass murder.
They deserved to be destroyed
How many times do you have to be told that has no legal force?Desperate times call for desperate measures
Lincoln did what was necessary to preserve the Union
By far, our greatest president
Who decided "saving the union" takes precedence over following the Constitution? The answer is that a gang of servile Stalinist todies decided that. All you Lincoln cult members are like abusive husbands who believe you're justified in beating your wives because they made you mad.
The Constitution aimed to make “a more perfect union”. That union was being broken
Lincoln saved us
The preamble has no legal force, moron.
It states the purpose of our Constitution
The Confederacy was a nation morally equivalent to Nazi GermanyAdolph Hitler would be so proud the way you pass judgements on whether entire societies deserve to survive.The south created a nation whose sole purpose was to preserve slaveryYeah, I get it, the actual historical documents..have no credence with idiots..ROTFLMFAO!Your sources aren't worth the bandwidth used to post them.Indeed..shameless douche bag!
Remeber this/ You said Lincoln wrote this..but you're a liar..he did not.
Abraham Lincoln quarterly. [Vol. 6, no. 3]
How come Lincoln got away with shutting down hundreds of newspapers and jailed journalists
How come Lincoln got away with shutting down hundreds of newspapers and jailed journalists
As i said before..you are a liar and a fatmouth..who won't even apologize for his idiocy and inaccuracy..loser.
You're still a liar...and markedly unintelligent, to boot. I get differing opinions..but different facts? Quotes attributed falsely?
The South was not a victim..but the perpetrator of our national tragedy. Their leadership brought that bloody war about for one reason..they felt that their stranglehold on US politics was about to end..that despite a Constitutional 'false equity', counting slaves to make a false representation of their population and garner representation they were not entitled to...they could no longer be the tail that wagged the dog...so they cut and ran. We, the United States of America, decided differently..and on the battlefield, where ultimately such cases are decided..the South was crushed and the Jeffersonian political philosophy was rejected by our country.
All the whining in the world will not change this..all the historical revisions and false equivalencies will not change this. War is horrible..and Civil War the worst! But...The South could have cowed down to the rule of law..accepted that the days of slavery were numbered--made the best deal possible--and perhaps, just perhaps--the Jeffersonian ideal of sovereign individual states might have survived, in some form, at least.
The fact that it bugs you...is just an added little cherry on my Sunday...LOL!
What historical documents? You haven't posted anything from any "historical documents." You've posted the opinion of some humbug government subsidized historian.
The South was obviously the victim. Lincoln invaded the South and ended up slaughtering 850,000 people. Lincoln is the sole cause of the war. He gave the order to invade Virginia. That fact is irrefutable. Your post is nothing but an attempt to spin the facts. The 3/5 clause in the Constitution is irreleant.
You're arguing that might makes right, just as any douchebag Stalinist would.
What Lincoln did is the exact opposite of the rule of law. No law gave Lincoln the authority to invade Virginia. That's the bottom line.
You're trying to justify mass murder.
They deserved to be destroyed
The bottom line is that everything Loncoln did was a violation of the Constitution. If anyone deserved to hang, it was Lincoln.
Ummmm......the Constitution HAD legal force in 1861How many times do you have to be told that has no legal force?Desperate times call for desperate measures
Lincoln did what was necessary to preserve the Union
By far, our greatest president
Who decided "saving the union" takes precedence over following the Constitution? The answer is that a gang of servile Stalinist todies decided that. All you Lincoln cult members are like abusive husbands who believe you're justified in beating your wives because they made you mad.
The Constitution aimed to make “a more perfect union”. That union was being broken
Lincoln saved us
The preamble has no legal force, moron.
It states the purpose of our Constitution
You are truly a moron. If the Confederacy was morally equivalent to Nazi Germany, then so was the union, since it had 4 slave states and most of the northern states had slavery right up the eve of the Civil war. The American flag flew over slavery far longer than than the Confederate flag did. Slavery was common all over the world, so it's not like the Confederacy violated some longstading society norm.The Confederacy was a nation morally equivalent to Nazi GermanyAdolph Hitler would be so proud the way you pass judgements on whether entire societies deserve to survive.The south created a nation whose sole purpose was to preserve slaveryYeah, I get it, the actual historical documents..have no credence with idiots..ROTFLMFAO!Your sources aren't worth the bandwidth used to post them.
You're still a liar...and markedly unintelligent, to boot. I get differing opinions..but different facts? Quotes attributed falsely?
The South was not a victim..but the perpetrator of our national tragedy. Their leadership brought that bloody war about for one reason..they felt that their stranglehold on US politics was about to end..that despite a Constitutional 'false equity', counting slaves to make a false representation of their population and garner representation they were not entitled to...they could no longer be the tail that wagged the dog...so they cut and ran. We, the United States of America, decided differently..and on the battlefield, where ultimately such cases are decided..the South was crushed and the Jeffersonian political philosophy was rejected by our country.
All the whining in the world will not change this..all the historical revisions and false equivalencies will not change this. War is horrible..and Civil War the worst! But...The South could have cowed down to the rule of law..accepted that the days of slavery were numbered--made the best deal possible--and perhaps, just perhaps--the Jeffersonian ideal of sovereign individual states might have survived, in some form, at least.
The fact that it bugs you...is just an added little cherry on my Sunday...LOL!
What historical documents? You haven't posted anything from any "historical documents." You've posted the opinion of some humbug government subsidized historian.
The South was obviously the victim. Lincoln invaded the South and ended up slaughtering 850,000 people. Lincoln is the sole cause of the war. He gave the order to invade Virginia. That fact is irrefutable. Your post is nothing but an attempt to spin the facts. The 3/5 clause in the Constitution is irreleant.
You're arguing that might makes right, just as any douchebag Stalinist would.
What Lincoln did is the exact opposite of the rule of law. No law gave Lincoln the authority to invade Virginia. That's the bottom line.
You're trying to justify mass murder.
They deserved to be destroyed
The bottom line is that everything Loncoln did was a violation of the Constitution. If anyone deserved to hang, it was Lincoln.
Not the preamble, you fucking moron.Ummmm......the Constitution HAD legal force in 1861How many times do you have to be told that has no legal force?Who decided "saving the union" takes precedence over following the Constitution? The answer is that a gang of servile Stalinist todies decided that. All you Lincoln cult members are like abusive husbands who believe you're justified in beating your wives because they made you mad.
The Constitution aimed to make “a more perfect union”. That union was being broken
Lincoln saved us
The preamble has no legal force, moron.
It states the purpose of our Constitution
The only nation ever formed that had 40 percent of its population in bondageYou are truly a moron. If the Confederacy was morally equivalent to Nazi Germany, then so was the union, since it had 4 slave states and most of the northern states had slavery right up the eve of the Civil war. The American flag flew over slavery far longer than than the Confederate flag did. Slavery was common all over the world, so it's not like the Confederacy violated some longstading society norm.The Confederacy was a nation morally equivalent to Nazi GermanyAdolph Hitler would be so proud the way you pass judgements on whether entire societies deserve to survive.The south created a nation whose sole purpose was to preserve slaveryYeah, I get it, the actual historical documents..have no credence with idiots..ROTFLMFAO!
You're still a liar...and markedly unintelligent, to boot. I get differing opinions..but different facts? Quotes attributed falsely?
The South was not a victim..but the perpetrator of our national tragedy. Their leadership brought that bloody war about for one reason..they felt that their stranglehold on US politics was about to end..that despite a Constitutional 'false equity', counting slaves to make a false representation of their population and garner representation they were not entitled to...they could no longer be the tail that wagged the dog...so they cut and ran. We, the United States of America, decided differently..and on the battlefield, where ultimately such cases are decided..the South was crushed and the Jeffersonian political philosophy was rejected by our country.
All the whining in the world will not change this..all the historical revisions and false equivalencies will not change this. War is horrible..and Civil War the worst! But...The South could have cowed down to the rule of law..accepted that the days of slavery were numbered--made the best deal possible--and perhaps, just perhaps--the Jeffersonian ideal of sovereign individual states might have survived, in some form, at least.
The fact that it bugs you...is just an added little cherry on my Sunday...LOL!
What historical documents? You haven't posted anything from any "historical documents." You've posted the opinion of some humbug government subsidized historian.
The South was obviously the victim. Lincoln invaded the South and ended up slaughtering 850,000 people. Lincoln is the sole cause of the war. He gave the order to invade Virginia. That fact is irrefutable. Your post is nothing but an attempt to spin the facts. The 3/5 clause in the Constitution is irreleant.
You're arguing that might makes right, just as any douchebag Stalinist would.
What Lincoln did is the exact opposite of the rule of law. No law gave Lincoln the authority to invade Virginia. That's the bottom line.
You're trying to justify mass murder.
They deserved to be destroyed
The bottom line is that everything Loncoln did was a violation of the Constitution. If anyone deserved to hang, it was Lincoln.
Your claim couldn't be more absurd. All it proves is that you're a moron and a douchebag. That's all everything you post proves.
You work for a government protected monopoly, don't you?
Joe actually believes that people perform better when you make them unaccountable. It's delusional
I was a consultant working on a project, dumbass. The government hired us even though it has employees that were supposedly competent to do that job, but they would never get it done.
You are truly a moron. If the Confederacy was morally equivalent to Nazi Germany, then so was the union, since it had 4 slave states and most of the northern states had slavery right up the eve of the Civil war. The American flag flew over slavery far longer than than the Confederate flag did. Slavery was common all over the world, so it's not like the Confederacy violated some longstading society norm.
Your claim couldn't be more absurd. All it proves is that you're a moron and a douchebag. That's all everything you post proves.
Joe actually believes that people perform better when you make them unaccountable. It's delusional
No, they work better when they know they will be treated fairly.
I've worked for companies that honestly thought that constantly threatening to fire people was actually a business model. Morale was horrible, people quit at the first opportunity, and we were constantly training new people to replace the ones who quit or got fired
You are truly a moron. If the Confederacy was morally equivalent to Nazi Germany, then so was the union, since it had 4 slave states and most of the northern states had slavery right up the eve of the Civil war. The American flag flew over slavery far longer than than the Confederate flag did. Slavery was common all over the world, so it's not like the Confederacy violated some longstading society norm.
Your claim couldn't be more absurd. All it proves is that you're a moron and a douchebag. That's all everything you post proves.
I love watching "Republicans" defend slavery and denounce Lincoln. It's too funny to watch.
Once again.. He suspended it BEFORE this. 2 years before this Act.Lincoln suspended habeas corpus… Unforgivable...and trump cant whine about fake news without being accused of being a tyrant? Lincoln actually WAS a tyrant.
Geez, americans are so disingenuous
America's Greatest President: Abraham Lincoln
http://ocean.otr.usm.edu/~w304644/ajha/americanjournalism/fall09.pdf
Im not even going to get started on lincoln sending out sherman to rape, murder pillage and kill livestock and all of his other unconstitutional acts
Im very interested. TIA
Take it up with Congress:
Habeas Corpus Suspension Act
Desperate times call for desperate measuresOnce again.. He suspended it BEFORE this. 2 years before this Act.Lincoln suspended habeas corpus… Unforgivable...and trump cant whine about fake news without being accused of being a tyrant? Lincoln actually WAS a tyrant.
Geez, americans are so disingenuous
America's Greatest President: Abraham Lincoln
http://ocean.otr.usm.edu/~w304644/ajha/americanjournalism/fall09.pdf
Im not even going to get started on lincoln sending out sherman to rape, murder pillage and kill livestock and all of his other unconstitutional acts
Im very interested. TIA
Take it up with Congress:
Habeas Corpus Suspension Act
President Lincoln suspends the writ of habeas corpus during the Civil War - May 25, 1861 - HISTORY.com
Thread is closed idiot.Desperate times call for desperate measuresOnce again.. He suspended it BEFORE this. 2 years before this Act.Lincoln suspended habeas corpus… Unforgivable...and trump cant whine about fake news without being accused of being a tyrant? Lincoln actually WAS a tyrant.
Geez, americans are so disingenuous
America's Greatest President: Abraham Lincoln
http://ocean.otr.usm.edu/~w304644/ajha/americanjournalism/fall09.pdf
Im not even going to get started on lincoln sending out sherman to rape, murder pillage and kill livestock and all of his other unconstitutional acts
Im very interested. TIA
Take it up with Congress:
Habeas Corpus Suspension Act
President Lincoln suspends the writ of habeas corpus during the Civil War - May 25, 1861 - HISTORY.com
To a statist.Desperate times call for desperate measuresOnce again.. He suspended it BEFORE this. 2 years before this Act.Lincoln suspended habeas corpus… Unforgivable...and trump cant whine about fake news without being accused of being a tyrant? Lincoln actually WAS a tyrant.
Geez, americans are so disingenuous
America's Greatest President: Abraham Lincoln
http://ocean.otr.usm.edu/~w304644/ajha/americanjournalism/fall09.pdf
Im not even going to get started on lincoln sending out sherman to rape, murder pillage and kill livestock and all of his other unconstitutional acts
Im very interested. TIA
Take it up with Congress:
Habeas Corpus Suspension Act
President Lincoln suspends the writ of habeas corpus during the Civil War - May 25, 1861 - HISTORY.com
my god the shit you're willing to say.The Confederacy was a nation morally equivalent to Nazi GermanyAdolph Hitler would be so proud the way you pass judgements on whether entire societies deserve to survive.The south created a nation whose sole purpose was to preserve slaveryYeah, I get it, the actual historical documents..have no credence with idiots..ROTFLMFAO!Your sources aren't worth the bandwidth used to post them.
You're still a liar...and markedly unintelligent, to boot. I get differing opinions..but different facts? Quotes attributed falsely?
The South was not a victim..but the perpetrator of our national tragedy. Their leadership brought that bloody war about for one reason..they felt that their stranglehold on US politics was about to end..that despite a Constitutional 'false equity', counting slaves to make a false representation of their population and garner representation they were not entitled to...they could no longer be the tail that wagged the dog...so they cut and ran. We, the United States of America, decided differently..and on the battlefield, where ultimately such cases are decided..the South was crushed and the Jeffersonian political philosophy was rejected by our country.
All the whining in the world will not change this..all the historical revisions and false equivalencies will not change this. War is horrible..and Civil War the worst! But...The South could have cowed down to the rule of law..accepted that the days of slavery were numbered--made the best deal possible--and perhaps, just perhaps--the Jeffersonian ideal of sovereign individual states might have survived, in some form, at least.
The fact that it bugs you...is just an added little cherry on my Sunday...LOL!
What historical documents? You haven't posted anything from any "historical documents." You've posted the opinion of some humbug government subsidized historian.
The South was obviously the victim. Lincoln invaded the South and ended up slaughtering 850,000 people. Lincoln is the sole cause of the war. He gave the order to invade Virginia. That fact is irrefutable. Your post is nothing but an attempt to spin the facts. The 3/5 clause in the Constitution is irreleant.
You're arguing that might makes right, just as any douchebag Stalinist would.
What Lincoln did is the exact opposite of the rule of law. No law gave Lincoln the authority to invade Virginia. That's the bottom line.
You're trying to justify mass murder.
They deserved to be destroyed
The bottom line is that everything Loncoln did was a violation of the Constitution. If anyone deserved to hang, it was Lincoln.
Anything goes. As long as the result is what you want.Desperate times call for desperate measures
We were talking about Dick Cheney? Who knew?Okay. Let’s put this thread to bed and ALL agree that Dishonest Abe was a lying murdering lawless asshole.
Thank you very much.
