How do you fell about a Space Force?

[edward37]

I'm all for space travel


Standi

 

[rightwinger]

I’m sure that keeps him awake nights

It should. Because his job and country depend on protecting that valuable infrastructure in space. If even SOME of the TV/Commercial satellites were taken out, there would be rationing and govt intervention to protect VITAL comm links And Jimmy Kimmel is NOT on the "life-threatening" list. Would be months to YEARS to replace the capacity.

Who would take them out and why?
China?
Russia?

Our retaliation would be vicious

Retaliation would be GROSSLY inhibited if they knew what they were doing. They could take out a spy satellite that we don't even acknowledge we have and we would lose "all eyes" on ground and sea movements or have to chase to reposition the remaining assets from one side of the world to the other.

Or just periodically jam comm links at the most ackward times. Like when the Russians or Chinese "faint" an encounter at sea or on the ground and we can't accurately assess the situation. You're not gonna commit to a nuclear retaliation against a critical one or two hours of jamming. Not for awhile anyway. Might not even tell the public about it.

Best you understand the stakes before you ridicule the idea as Kimmel did.

USSR/Russia has had the ability to take out satellites for 50 years and has never tried. We have the same capability.

What is a Space Force going to do?

Satellite jamming is always possible. Any countermeasures are a function of the satellite, not some space cadet

Really? We HAVE the capability to "take out" satellites? Russia does also? Not really. Not without exploding nuclear weapons in space which is restricted by Treaty right now.

You folks killed Star Wars SDI plan. Now we have to hit ICBMs with a ROCK before they reach Philly...

Jamming from the ground doesn't work well at all. Not on uplinks. And downlinks are the least important part.

Sure we do
We fly up to satellites all the time
Nothing to stop you

I agree...this is as stupid as Star Wars
It will meet the same fate

 

[Siete]

in the works -

U.S. rushes to add laser-armed drones to missile defense network

 

[Siete]

and

Defensive Weapons

 

[Markle]

NASA put us on the Moon, moron, in case you forgot.
Put them back in the business if anyone seriously thinks we need to have military in space.

When did NASA put us on the moon?

Failed former President Barack Hussein Obama stripped NASA of its intended purpose and had them start studying the environment and acting as an outreach program to Muslims.

Do you NOT believe that we need a military presence in space to protect our satellite networks for weather, air control, energy grids, navigation and the list goes on?

 

[Markle]

in the works -

U.S. rushes to add laser-armed drones to missile defense network

Yes, in an effort to catch up.

 

[rightwinger]

NASA put us on the Moon, moron, in case you forgot.
Put them back in the business if anyone seriously thinks we need to have military in space.

When did NASA put us on the moon?

Failed former President Barack Hussein Obama stripped NASA of its intended purpose and had them start studying the environment and acting as an outreach program to Muslims.

Do you NOT believe that we need a military presence in space to protect our satellite networks for weather, air control, energy grids, navigation and the list goes on?

The Great Obama had NASA exploring the far reaches of space and the surface of Mars

Nobody needs an army in space

 

[Siete]

in the works -

U.S. rushes to add laser-armed drones to missile defense network

Yes, in an effort to catch up.

AND 43 CUT SPACE SPENDING long before Obama got elected ........

 

[flacaltenn]

It should. Because his job and country depend on protecting that valuable infrastructure in space. If even SOME of the TV/Commercial satellites were taken out, there would be rationing and govt intervention to protect VITAL comm links And Jimmy Kimmel is NOT on the "life-threatening" list. Would be months to YEARS to replace the capacity.

Who would take them out and why?
China?
Russia?

Our retaliation would be vicious

Retaliation would be GROSSLY inhibited if they knew what they were doing. They could take out a spy satellite that we don't even acknowledge we have and we would lose "all eyes" on ground and sea movements or have to chase to reposition the remaining assets from one side of the world to the other.

Or just periodically jam comm links at the most ackward times. Like when the Russians or Chinese "faint" an encounter at sea or on the ground and we can't accurately assess the situation. You're not gonna commit to a nuclear retaliation against a critical one or two hours of jamming. Not for awhile anyway. Might not even tell the public about it.

Best you understand the stakes before you ridicule the idea as Kimmel did.

USSR/Russia has had the ability to take out satellites for 50 years and has never tried. We have the same capability.

What is a Space Force going to do?

Satellite jamming is always possible. Any countermeasures are a function of the satellite, not some space cadet

Really? We HAVE the capability to "take out" satellites? Russia does also? Not really. Not without exploding nuclear weapons in space which is restricted by Treaty right now.

You folks killed Star Wars SDI plan. Now we have to hit ICBMs with a ROCK before they reach Philly...

Jamming from the ground doesn't work well at all. Not on uplinks. And downlinks are the least important part.

Sure we do
We fly up to satellites all the time
Nothing to stop you

I agree...this is as stupid as Star Wars
It will meet the same fate

What "weapons" or ability to intervene do these satellites in you head have? They gonna poke em with a stick or sumthin? The Shuttle had the ability to capture and remove errant satellites or satellites that might be designed to jam or interfere with others. Right now --- we have NO capablility to do that. NONE. Just like we have virtually no ability to stop ANY ICBM heading for Boulder Colorado.

You folks are all jazzed about China/Russian hacking our surface networks. Why is it you reflexively opposed the ability to defend our space-based GPS, Spy, EarthResource, commercial, military communication and information links? This is what you folks do. Refuse to strategically look at threats until it's too late and then TRY to reason with lunatics like North Korea and Iran..

I think just like Reagan's SDI plan, it's REALLY all about who's proposing it. YOU would rather ignore the whole deal EVEN IF -- it's a very likely threat in the near future.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Eh, a Space Force is inevitable and now Democrats are stuck with trying to take credit from Trump for promoting it..

Trump Science wins ... Democrats head back to their caves and under rocks.

 

[rightwinger]

Who would take them out and why?
China?
Russia?

Our retaliation would be vicious

Retaliation would be GROSSLY inhibited if they knew what they were doing. They could take out a spy satellite that we don't even acknowledge we have and we would lose "all eyes" on ground and sea movements or have to chase to reposition the remaining assets from one side of the world to the other.

Or just periodically jam comm links at the most ackward times. Like when the Russians or Chinese "faint" an encounter at sea or on the ground and we can't accurately assess the situation. You're not gonna commit to a nuclear retaliation against a critical one or two hours of jamming. Not for awhile anyway. Might not even tell the public about it.

Best you understand the stakes before you ridicule the idea as Kimmel did.

USSR/Russia has had the ability to take out satellites for 50 years and has never tried. We have the same capability.

What is a Space Force going to do?

Satellite jamming is always possible. Any countermeasures are a function of the satellite, not some space cadet

Really? We HAVE the capability to "take out" satellites? Russia does also? Not really. Not without exploding nuclear weapons in space which is restricted by Treaty right now.

You folks killed Star Wars SDI plan. Now we have to hit ICBMs with a ROCK before they reach Philly...

Jamming from the ground doesn't work well at all. Not on uplinks. And downlinks are the least important part.

Sure we do
We fly up to satellites all the time
Nothing to stop you

I agree...this is as stupid as Star Wars
It will meet the same fate

What "weapons" or ability to intervene do these satellites in you head have? They gonna poke em with a stick or sumthin? The Shuttle had the ability to capture and remove errant satellites or satellites that might be designed to jam or interfere with others. Right now --- we have NO capablility to do that. NONE. Just like we have virtually no ability to stop ANY ICBM heading for Boulder Colorado.

You folks are all jazzed about China/Russian hacking our surface networks. Why is it you reflexively opposed the ability to defend our space-based GPS, Spy, EarthResource, commercial, military communication and information links? This is what you folks do. Refuse to strategically look at threats until it's too late and then TRY to reason with lunatics like North Korea and Iran..

I think just like Reagan's SDI plan, it's REALLY all about who's proposing it. YOU would rather ignore the whole deal EVEN IF -- it's a very likely threat in the near future.

ICBMs have been a threat for over 50 years
We live with it as something that will probably never happen

Same goes for Space Wars

 

[rightwinger]

Eh, a Space Force is inevitable and now Democrats are stuck with trying to take credit from Trump for promoting it..

Trump Science wins ... Democrats head back to their caves and under rocks.

Congress has no enthusiasm for Space Force
It will go down as Trumps Folly

 

[Hiryuu]

It's only a combination and re-designation of exist components that already exist in the Air Force and NASA. Those components won't necessarily change jobs, but instead be under a different command structure with alternative goals. Having a problem with the Space Force because they put things that belong together under the same command, would be the same as having a problem with the Coast Guard because they aren't the Navy anymore.

 

[flacaltenn]

Retaliation would be GROSSLY inhibited if they knew what they were doing. They could take out a spy satellite that we don't even acknowledge we have and we would lose "all eyes" on ground and sea movements or have to chase to reposition the remaining assets from one side of the world to the other.

Or just periodically jam comm links at the most ackward times. Like when the Russians or Chinese "faint" an encounter at sea or on the ground and we can't accurately assess the situation. You're not gonna commit to a nuclear retaliation against a critical one or two hours of jamming. Not for awhile anyway. Might not even tell the public about it.

Best you understand the stakes before you ridicule the idea as Kimmel did.

USSR/Russia has had the ability to take out satellites for 50 years and has never tried. We have the same capability.

What is a Space Force going to do?

Satellite jamming is always possible. Any countermeasures are a function of the satellite, not some space cadet

Really? We HAVE the capability to "take out" satellites? Russia does also? Not really. Not without exploding nuclear weapons in space which is restricted by Treaty right now.

You folks killed Star Wars SDI plan. Now we have to hit ICBMs with a ROCK before they reach Philly...

Jamming from the ground doesn't work well at all. Not on uplinks. And downlinks are the least important part.

Sure we do
We fly up to satellites all the time
Nothing to stop you

I agree...this is as stupid as Star Wars
It will meet the same fate

What "weapons" or ability to intervene do these satellites in you head have? They gonna poke em with a stick or sumthin? The Shuttle had the ability to capture and remove errant satellites or satellites that might be designed to jam or interfere with others. Right now --- we have NO capablility to do that. NONE. Just like we have virtually no ability to stop ANY ICBM heading for Boulder Colorado.

You folks are all jazzed about China/Russian hacking our surface networks. Why is it you reflexively opposed the ability to defend our space-based GPS, Spy, EarthResource, commercial, military communication and information links? This is what you folks do. Refuse to strategically look at threats until it's too late and then TRY to reason with lunatics like North Korea and Iran..

I think just like Reagan's SDI plan, it's REALLY all about who's proposing it. YOU would rather ignore the whole deal EVEN IF -- it's a very likely threat in the near future.

ICBMs have been a threat for over 50 years
We live with it as something that will probably never happen

Same goes for Space Wars

We live with it as something that will probably never happen

That's stupid and insane. Only reason we're clashing over Iran and NKorea is that it's the WHACKOS that pose the ICBM threat. Not Russia/China. That'll be your position until L'il Kim Chee splashes one near LA and we gotta go tact nuke his country back into wasteland.

It sucks to be you. Really... You're FAR more interested in political power than you are in actual issues and defending this country from LIKELY threats.

 

[regent]

What channel and time?

 

[Lumpy 1]

Eh, a Space Force is inevitable and now Democrats are stuck with trying to take credit from Trump for promoting it..

Trump Science wins ... Democrats head back to their caves and under rocks.

Congress has no enthusiasm for Space Force
It will go down as Trumps Folly

Well, keep your fingers crossed but don't let your emotional instability cloud your judgement .. good luck...

 

[Markle]

I have a question about space force
When will Puerto Rico have electricity?

As you know, the electrical grid in Puerto Rico was rudimentary at best and was totally destroyed. Many parts of the island remained inaccessible for months much less being accessible for an entirely new electric system.

Here's the answer you requested. Puerto Rico was crippled with debt before the storm as well as being rife with corruption.

July 5, 2018, 11:36 AM
Puerto Rico mayor, two others arrested on corruption charges
Last Updated Jul 5, 2018 4:28 PM EDT

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico -- A mayor and two former government officials in Puerto Rico face public corruption charges in separate cases that involve a total of $8 million in federal and local funds, authorities said Thursday. The suspects are the mayor of the southwest town of Sabana Grande and the former directors of finance for the northern town of Toa Baja, which has struggled to pay its employees amid an 11-year recession.

[...]

Puerto Rico mayor, two others arrested on corruption charges

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CBS NEWS August 10, 2018, 11:19 PM
Donations sent to Puerto Rico were found rotting in parking lot

Donated food sent to Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria were left to rot in a parking lot of a government facility, CBS News corresondent David Begnaud reported Friday. Additionally, about 10 containers filled with non-perishable supplies sat at the government facility for 11 months.

[...]

Donations sent to Puerto Rico were found rotting in parking lot

News › World › Americas
Puerto Rico energy company says all its customers have electricity nearly one year after Hurricane Maria

But announcement may not reflect reality for everyone on the island

• Kimberley Richards New York
• 3 hours ago [08/15/2018]

Electricity restored to Puerto Rico homes 11 months after Hurricane Maria hit

 

[Markle]

Actually, it's a legitimate question. Trump has already cut taxes, meaning less money is coming into the government. With less money coming into the government, how are we going to pay for it? It costs roughly 10,000/lb to put stuff into orbit.

Lower taxes do not mean lower revenues. Have you ever heard of the Laffer Curve?

 

[Markle]

If free for all healthcare, and school for all is unaffordable, how can you afford to put an entire military force into space?

In order to protect your liberty, freedom and to make this post.

 

[Markle]

We already have a space command, it does not need to be an additional branch.

Air Force Space Command > Home

As a new branch it has it own bureaucracy and extra layers of command which all cost extra money.

Simple, shut down the Department of Education. Problem solved.