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Europe doesn't have the obesity epidemic which the US and Mexico does.Europe has a lot to offer, including some of the happiest & healthiest people around. I don't mind being happy and healthy.I don't know everything about Europe (e.g., what kind of bail system they use) so I can't say. I can say it does sound like a right wing nightmare rather than anything found in real life.I doubt many progressives want to slide towards China, it is the social democracies of Europe that are the model. It is they that are doing the most for personal online privacy for example.I saw a scene where an actor dissed the idea that America was free, and special because it was free. The argument was that there are a hundred or so free countries, so saying we are free isn't special in any way. Personally, I think America's identity of as a place of personal freedom is different than anywhere else in the world. Our constitution did more than any other document to give the individual control over their own lives. We are the standard bearer for freedom in the world, and if we slide further left, into models where the individual is not valued, and becomes forced into collective ideology, who else is going to fight for the individual. The spectrum is the US on one side, and China on the other. Why the progressives want to slide towards China is beyond me.
Okay, lets say the other side of the scale is Europe. Is post #7 Europe?
So is that an endorsement for the push to become Europe? Are you onboard for this push? I don't know much about Europe either. I do know we pay for their protection and that they have serious limits to free speech. I also know England has a death panel that doesn't allow many surgeries after 75.
So part of it is because people apparently stay healthier, not solely the result of insurance coverages. (Ironically the exception might be smoking, which is supposedly less in America than in Europe).
I'd have to learn more about the intricacies of the European health care systems and their coverage.I think they has serious limits to hate speech. The US has death panels, they are called insurance companies. If they won't pay for your $1,000,000 surgery could you?