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I certainly appreciate the work teachers do, and I have no problems with giving teachers protections against rash terminations, but I'm not sure how teacher tenure and seniority rules help kids.
They don't help the kids; they help the teachers' unions.
It's not a coincidence that as the unions have gained power and money, that the quality of education has declined.
No, the quality of teaching has not declined.
You are delusional.
You have evidence? You have stats? Or are you just opining?
From the US Department of Education: 19% of High School Graduates Can't Read. That is an appalling statistic - and evidence of the warehousing of students without regard for their learning experience.
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What year is that? How many of that 19% are learning disabled or have cognitive disabilities?
Hey, how about this information on stats:
http://nces.ed.gov/NAAL/faq.asp
It's a study from 2013, as it clearly says. If you want to know what ratio of high school students are learning disabled or have cognitive abilities, go look it up your self. I'm not your internet research assistant.
I'm suspect of such definitions given how special ed is abused these days...
It's a study from 2013, as it clearly says. If you want to know what ratio of high school students are learning disabled or have cognitive abilities, go look it up your self. I'm not your internet research assistant.
I'm suspect of such definitions given how special ed is abused these days...
It's a more-than-appropriate question, since students with disabilities are now mainstreamed, they might be lumped into the study.
A California court struck down teacher tenure and seniority provisions. The unions, as expected, are protesting.
Teachers unions are fighting back against a California ruling that gutted two things they hold sacred: tenure laws and seniority provisions. But they face an uphill battle to reshape their image as opponents—and even some allies—say they are standing in the way of needed improvements in education. ...
Teachers union critics say the tenure and seniority laws that were hobbled by the June ruling protect longtime educators who are ineffective while more proficient ones with less experience face layoffs first. ...
The developments have left the nation's two largest teachers unions in a quandary: how to alter the perception that they are obstacles to change while holding on to principles such as tenure that their members demand.
The unions used their recent national conventions to respond and have notched up the rhetoric. The National Education Association, the largest teachers union at about three million members, elected a new president who called certain teacher-performance metrics such as test scores "the mark of the devil."
The American Federation of Teachers, the second-biggest union at about 1.6 million members, backs a new group, Democrats for Public Education, which advocates for the union's causes. "Sadly, what has changed is that rather than helping teachers help kids, some…are suing to take away the voices of teachers," said AFT President Randi Weingarten. ...
In the California case, a state judge in June struck down certain protections for teachers, including tenure after about two years on the job and seniority protections in layoffs. He found in the case, Vergara v. California, that the measures can entrench unqualified teachers, preventing minority and low-income students from receiving the equitable public education required by the state's constitution.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/teachers-unions-under-fire-1409874404?mod=WSJ_hp_RightTopStories
I certainly appreciate the work teachers do, and I have no problems with giving teachers protections against rash terminations, but I'm not sure how teacher tenure and seniority rules help kids.
I'm not sure it helps them either. Unions have one job, to protect their members. Everything else is secondary.
It's a study from 2013, as it clearly says. If you want to know what ratio of high school students are learning disabled or have cognitive abilities, go look it up your self. I'm not your internet research assistant.
I'm suspect of such definitions given how special ed is abused these days...
It's a more-than-appropriate question, since students with disabilities are now mainstreamed, they might be lumped into the study.
Then look it up yourself. This is a DOE study. Given the government bias to promote education, I would find it highly unlikely that they oversampled kids with learning disabilities in order to make functional illiteracy look worse than it is.
What is the illiteracy rate among U.S. adults?Hey, how about this information on stats:
http://nces.ed.gov/NAAL/faq.asp
What about it? Did you even bother to read any of it before you jumped on the link?
It's a study from 2013, as it clearly says. If you want to know what ratio of high school students are learning disabled or have cognitive abilities, go look it up your self. I'm not your internet research assistant.
I'm suspect of such definitions given how special ed is abused these days...
It's a more-than-appropriate question, since students with disabilities are now mainstreamed, they might be lumped into the study.
Then look it up yourself. This is a DOE study. Given the government bias to promote education, I would find it highly unlikely that they oversampled kids with learning disabilities in order to make functional illiteracy look worse than it is.
I just gave you the link with the last tests done.
It's a study from 2013, as it clearly says. If you want to know what ratio of high school students are learning disabled or have cognitive abilities, go look it up your self. I'm not your internet research assistant.
I'm suspect of such definitions given how special ed is abused these days...
It's a more-than-appropriate question, since students with disabilities are now mainstreamed, they might be lumped into the study.
Then look it up yourself. This is a DOE study. Given the government bias to promote education, I would find it highly unlikely that they oversampled kids with learning disabilities in order to make functional illiteracy look worse than it is.
What good are CEO's to the public they serve if they have a commodity that is to be used by the public?
We can talk about what ifs!!!! All day!
CEO's aren't any good to the public. The Bush cataclysm should have taught you that.
The Wonder Boys of wallstreet and the auto industry cost this country, trillions.
Then look it up yourself. This is a DOE study. Given the government bias to promote education, I would find it highly unlikely that they oversampled kids with learning disabilities in order to make functional illiteracy look worse than it is.
What good are CEO's to the public they serve if they have a commodity that is to be used by the public?
We can talk about what ifs!!!! All day!
CEO's aren't any good to the public. The Bush cataclysm should have taught you that.
The Wonder Boys of wallstreet and the auto industry cost this country, trillions.
You liberals and your dumbfuck comparisons. Schools dont make money,they take money.
A CEO that doesnt make the company money gets canned.
A teacher with tenure who sucks doesnt.
Same shit as comparing so called corporate welfare vs. lowlife welfare.
One is a money maker the other a money taker.
I certainly appreciate the work teachers do, and I have no problems with giving teachers protections against rash terminations, but I'm not sure how teacher tenure and seniority rules help kids.
They don't help the kids; they help the teachers' unions.
It's not a coincidence that as the unions have gained power and money, that the quality of education has declined.
No, the quality of teaching has not declined.
You are delusional.
You have evidence? You have stats? Or are you just opining?
From the US Department of Education: 19% of High School Graduates Can't Read. That is an appalling statistic - and evidence of the warehousing of students without regard for their learning experience.
View attachment 31612
Illiteracy Statistics Statistic Brain
What year is that? How many of that 19% are learning disabled or have cognitive disabilities?
It's a study from 2013, as it clearly says. If you want to know what ratio of high school students are learning disabled or have cognitive abilities, go look it up your self. I'm not your internet research assistant.
I'm suspect of such definitions given how special ed is abused these days...
It's a more-than-appropriate question, since students with disabilities are now mainstreamed, they might be lumped into the study.
Then look it up yourself. This is a DOE study. Given the government bias to promote education, I would find it highly unlikely that they oversampled kids with learning disabilities in order to make functional illiteracy look worse than it is.
I just gave you the link with the last tests done.
Groovy. Go ahead and read up then.
For my part, a 19% functional illiteracy rate among High School GRADUATES is an Epic Fail.
I certainly appreciate the work teachers do, and I have no problems with giving teachers protections against rash terminations, but I'm not sure how teacher tenure and seniority rules help kids.
They don't help the kids; they help the teachers' unions.
It's not a coincidence that as the unions have gained power and money, that the quality of education has declined.
No, the quality of teaching has not declined.
You are delusional.
You have evidence? You have stats? Or are you just opining?
From the US Department of Education: 19% of High School Graduates Can't Read. That is an appalling statistic - and evidence of the warehousing of students without regard for their learning experience.
View attachment 31612
Illiteracy Statistics Statistic Brain
What year is that? How many of that 19% are learning disabled or have cognitive disabilities?
I believe the study is from 2003. If you want to find out the ratio of disabled/cognitive disabilities, knock yourself out and do your own research.
Have fun!
It's a study from 2013, as it clearly says. If you want to know what ratio of high school students are learning disabled or have cognitive abilities, go look it up your self. I'm not your internet research assistant.
I'm suspect of such definitions given how special ed is abused these days...
It's a more-than-appropriate question, since students with disabilities are now mainstreamed, they might be lumped into the study.
Then look it up yourself. This is a DOE study. Given the government bias to promote education, I would find it highly unlikely that they oversampled kids with learning disabilities in order to make functional illiteracy look worse than it is.
I just gave you the link with the last tests done.
Groovy. Go ahead and read up then.
For my part, a 19% functional illiteracy rate among High School GRADUATES is an Epic Fail.
Wait one cotton picking second there............you don't know when the stats were done, you don't know anything about the sample, you don't know if there were learning disabilities or cognitive abilities. You can't even manage to look up the information. You don't know anything about teaching, the education system, testing, etc. but your damn sure that it's a fail.
Come on now...
No, teachers make money!
So which game are you playing? The one where his/her students go out into the world and do wonderful things and become contributing members of society?
Or are you missing the point entirely?
Because a bad teacher only makes money for herself and is nothing but a drain on society.
What good are CEO's to the public they serve if they have a commodity that is to be used by the public?
We can talk about what ifs!!!! All day!
CEO's aren't any good to the public. The Bush cataclysm should have taught you that.
The Wonder Boys of wallstreet and the auto industry cost this country, trillions.
You liberals and your dumbfuck comparisons. Schools dont make money,they take money.
A CEO that doesnt make the company money gets canned.
A teacher with tenure who sucks doesnt.
Same shit as comparing so called corporate welfare vs. lowlife welfare.
One is a money maker the other a money taker.
