How is investigating Burisma investigating Joe Biden and interfering in the 2020 election?

Is investigating Burisma, investigating Joe Biden, and therefore interfering in the 2020 election?

  • Yes, Joe Biden is Burisma

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • No, Joe Biden is NOT Burisma

    Votes: 17 94.4%

  • Total voters
    18
The democrats are accusing Trump of soliciting "foreign interference" in the 2020 election by asking the Ukraine to investigate Burisma. How is investigating Burisma the same as investigating Joe Biden? I'm not seeing the connection. No wonder the voters are rejecting the democrat's inane coup plot, and as Professor Turley explained, it is the democrats in the House that are abusing their power, not Trump.

House Democrats' impeachment report accuses Trump of obstruction, other misconduct
Democrats on Tuesday publicly released a new report accusing President Donald Trump of soliciting Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election for his benefit and obstructing the impeachment inquiry in the House of Representatives.

The 300-page report alleges a quid pro quo scheme in which Trump “conditioned official acts on a public announcement by the new Ukrainian President, Volodymyr Zelensky, of politically-motivated investigations” into former Vice President Joe Biden — a top Democratic presidential candidate — and his son Hunter.

“In pressuring President Zelensky to carry out his demand, President Trump withheld a White House meeting desperately sought by the Ukrainian President, and critical U.S. military assistance to fight Russian aggression in eastern Ukraine,” the report says.

Here's another article with the same accusation:
House Democrats conclude Trump solicited foreign interference in 2020
WASHINGTON – Three House committees investigating the potential impeachment of President Donald Trump uncovered a months-long effort "to use the powers of his office to solicit foreign interference on his behalf in the 2020 election," according to their draft report released Tuesday.

Let's take a poll....

Well that is what is interesting to me.... is that the response from this has been so vile and intense, that it really has made me wonder if Joe Biden has more connections to this whole Hunter Burisma thing, than what we knew. I didn't actually believe that to start with.... but it seemed as though the response is out of proportion to the story.

What 'response'?
There is no evidence that Joe Biden did anything other than work to implement U.S. policy.

There is evidence that Trump pressured the government for his own political benefit and not as part of any U.S. policy.
 
Unless he has something to hide...
Clearly the crime Trump is guilty of is investigating Democrats that have committed criminal acts.

What criminal acts did the Biden's commit? Specifically?

Because so far there is not a single bit of evidence of any crime.
Why was the son of the American VP on a Ukranian board of a power company getting paid over $50,000 a month?

What criminal acts did the Biden's commit? Specifically?

Because so far there is not a single bit of evidence of any crime
 
The democrats are accusing Trump of soliciting "foreign interference" in the 2020 election by asking the Ukraine to investigate Burisma. How is investigating Burisma the same as investigating Joe Biden? I'm not seeing the connection. No wonder the voters are rejecting the democrat's inane coup plot, and as Professor Turley explained, it is the democrats in the House that are abusing their power, not Trump.

House Democrats' impeachment report accuses Trump of obstruction, other misconduct
Democrats on Tuesday publicly released a new report accusing President Donald Trump of soliciting Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election for his benefit and obstructing the impeachment inquiry in the House of Representatives.

The 300-page report alleges a quid pro quo scheme in which Trump “conditioned official acts on a public announcement by the new Ukrainian President, Volodymyr Zelensky, of politically-motivated investigations” into former Vice President Joe Biden — a top Democratic presidential candidate — and his son Hunter.

“In pressuring President Zelensky to carry out his demand, President Trump withheld a White House meeting desperately sought by the Ukrainian President, and critical U.S. military assistance to fight Russian aggression in eastern Ukraine,” the report says.

Here's another article with the same accusation:
House Democrats conclude Trump solicited foreign interference in 2020
WASHINGTON – Three House committees investigating the potential impeachment of President Donald Trump uncovered a months-long effort "to use the powers of his office to solicit foreign interference on his behalf in the 2020 election," according to their draft report released Tuesday.

Let's take a poll....
Political dirt you idiot.
If Biden did nothing wrong, then what political dirt are they worried about?
I never said Biden was worried about anything. That's not the issue. The issue is that Trump committed a conspiracy to defraud the US from a free and fair election.

1. Please provide a link that agrees with your point, like the Federal Election Commission, because I call bullshit..

Please provide a link where Trump asked Ukraine to investigate Burisma.
That's not going to happen. It didn't happen in 2017, and it sure didn't happen now. Trump got caught.
 
Unless he has something to hide...
Clearly the crime Trump is guilty of is investigating Democrats that have committed criminal acts.

What criminal acts did the Biden's commit? Specifically?

Because so far there is not a single bit of evidence of any crime.
Why was the son of the American VP on a Ukranian board of a power company getting paid over $50,000 a month?

What criminal acts did the Biden's commit? Specifically?

Because so far there is not a single bit of evidence of any crime
They don't know and there is no crime. You won't get an answer.
 
Your point is pointless, because Biden and burisma were brought up in the sworn testimony from a dozen or so witnesses, plus three legal scholars cementing the validity of the crimes as pointed out by the witnesses.

And none of them, including the radical scholars, would admit that a crime had been committed.
Negative! The witnesses did testify under sworn testimony that crimes were committed. It wasn't the job of the scholars to decide. They just confirmed that what the witnesses said are confirmed, they were all impeachable offenses. There is zero defense. Stop being so pitifully desperate.

You've got one typo that is a mistake.

They just confirmed that what the witnesses said "were" confirmed, they were all impeachable offenses.

That's the issue. What the witnesses said was not confirmed or proven.
What the witnesses confirmed aligns with the physical evidence of Trumps own big mouth.

You've been voted down by the Dem party. They aren't going anywhere near the Ukraine for impeachment
purposes.

They have zero proof/evidence of a quid pro quo
It's already been proven. A conspiracy to defraud the US to have a free and fair election has already been revealed. It's too late for Trump.
 
The democrats are accusing Trump of soliciting "foreign interference" in the 2020 election by asking the Ukraine to investigate Burisma. How is investigating Burisma the same as investigating Joe Biden? I'm not seeing the connection. No wonder the voters are rejecting the democrat's inane coup plot, and as Professor Turley explained, it is the democrats in the House that are abusing their power, not Trump.

House Democrats' impeachment report accuses Trump of obstruction, other misconduct
Democrats on Tuesday publicly released a new report accusing President Donald Trump of soliciting Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election for his benefit and obstructing the impeachment inquiry in the House of Representatives.

The 300-page report alleges a quid pro quo scheme in which Trump “conditioned official acts on a public announcement by the new Ukrainian President, Volodymyr Zelensky, of politically-motivated investigations” into former Vice President Joe Biden — a top Democratic presidential candidate — and his son Hunter.

“In pressuring President Zelensky to carry out his demand, President Trump withheld a White House meeting desperately sought by the Ukrainian President, and critical U.S. military assistance to fight Russian aggression in eastern Ukraine,” the report says.

Here's another article with the same accusation:
House Democrats conclude Trump solicited foreign interference in 2020
WASHINGTON – Three House committees investigating the potential impeachment of President Donald Trump uncovered a months-long effort "to use the powers of his office to solicit foreign interference on his behalf in the 2020 election," according to their draft report released Tuesday.

Let's take a poll....

Well that is what is interesting to me.... is that the response from this has been so vile and intense, that it really has made me wonder if Joe Biden has more connections to this whole Hunter Burisma thing, than what we knew. I didn't actually believe that to start with.... but it seemed as though the response is out of proportion to the story.

What 'response'?
There is no evidence that Joe Biden did anything other than work to implement U.S. policy.

There is evidence that Trump pressured the government for his own political benefit and not as part of any U.S. policy.

There you go right there. That's what I'm talking about.
 
The democrats are accusing Trump of soliciting "foreign interference" in the 2020 election by asking the Ukraine to investigate Burisma. How is investigating Burisma the same as investigating Joe Biden? I'm not seeing the connection. No wonder the voters are rejecting the democrat's inane coup plot, and as Professor Turley explained, it is the democrats in the House that are abusing their power, not Trump.

House Democrats' impeachment report accuses Trump of obstruction, other misconduct
Democrats on Tuesday publicly released a new report accusing President Donald Trump of soliciting Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election for his benefit and obstructing the impeachment inquiry in the House of Representatives.

The 300-page report alleges a quid pro quo scheme in which Trump “conditioned official acts on a public announcement by the new Ukrainian President, Volodymyr Zelensky, of politically-motivated investigations” into former Vice President Joe Biden — a top Democratic presidential candidate — and his son Hunter.

“In pressuring President Zelensky to carry out his demand, President Trump withheld a White House meeting desperately sought by the Ukrainian President, and critical U.S. military assistance to fight Russian aggression in eastern Ukraine,” the report says.

Here's another article with the same accusation:
House Democrats conclude Trump solicited foreign interference in 2020
WASHINGTON – Three House committees investigating the potential impeachment of President Donald Trump uncovered a months-long effort "to use the powers of his office to solicit foreign interference on his behalf in the 2020 election," according to their draft report released Tuesday.

Let's take a poll....

He was not asking for a investigation of Burisma. He wanted a investigation of Biden. Neither the DOJ or *Ukraine have any probable cause to open a investigation of Biden. The pressure campaign was being run by Trump and executed by Giuliani. Giuliani has been pretty open about it.
 
Unless he has something to hide...
Clearly the crime Trump is guilty of is investigating Democrats that have committed criminal acts.

Exactly the point I'm trying to make in the OP.
There is no connection between Biden and Burisma, unless there is a crime involved.
Your point is pointless, because Biden and Burisma were brought up in the sworn testimony from a dozen or so witnesses, plus three legal scholars cementing the validity of the crimes as pointed out by the witnesses.

What will be "cemented" for 2020 voters is that Trump will be acquitted in the senate, and the democrat's coup plots exposed.
The dems will not be able to prove any crime. All the dems have is hearsay and presumptions, and you apparently can't name any crime either.

What will be cemented is that Trump is a crook. Voters agree that what Trump did was wrong. What they are unsure of is the penalty.
 
The democrats are accusing Trump of soliciting "foreign interference" in the 2020 election by asking the Ukraine to investigate Burisma. How is investigating Burisma the same as investigating Joe Biden? I'm not seeing the connection. No wonder the voters are rejecting the democrat's inane coup plot, and as Professor Turley explained, it is the democrats in the House that are abusing their power, not Trump.

House Democrats' impeachment report accuses Trump of obstruction, other misconduct
Democrats on Tuesday publicly released a new report accusing President Donald Trump of soliciting Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election for his benefit and obstructing the impeachment inquiry in the House of Representatives.

The 300-page report alleges a quid pro quo scheme in which Trump “conditioned official acts on a public announcement by the new Ukrainian President, Volodymyr Zelensky, of politically-motivated investigations” into former Vice President Joe Biden — a top Democratic presidential candidate — and his son Hunter.

“In pressuring President Zelensky to carry out his demand, President Trump withheld a White House meeting desperately sought by the Ukrainian President, and critical U.S. military assistance to fight Russian aggression in eastern Ukraine,” the report says.

Here's another article with the same accusation:
House Democrats conclude Trump solicited foreign interference in 2020
WASHINGTON – Three House committees investigating the potential impeachment of President Donald Trump uncovered a months-long effort "to use the powers of his office to solicit foreign interference on his behalf in the 2020 election," according to their draft report released Tuesday.

Let's take a poll....
Were you hit on the head or something?

Trump specifically connected Biden to Burisma in his phone call!

Jesus, you people are getting more desperate every day.

Sorry, Trump's legacy is set for all time. He will go down in history as the third president to ever be impeached.

A hundred years from now, the only thing Americans will know about Donald J. Trump is that he was a crooked game show host who was elected by Putin and tried to rig the 2020 election.

The end.
 
Unless he has something to hide...
Clearly the crime Trump is guilty of is investigating Democrats that have committed criminal acts.

What criminal acts did the Biden's commit? Specifically?

Because so far there is not a single bit of evidence of any crime.
Why was the son of the American VP on a Ukranian board of a power company getting paid over $50,000 a month?

What criminal acts did the Biden's commit? Specifically?

Because so far there is not a single bit of evidence of any crime
We're never gonna know. The Democrat chairman wouldn't let Republicans call Hunter Biden for questioning.
 
The democrats are accusing Trump of soliciting "foreign interference" in the 2020 election by asking the Ukraine to investigate Burisma. How is investigating Burisma the same as investigating Joe Biden? I'm not seeing the connection. No wonder the voters are rejecting the democrat's inane coup plot, and as Professor Turley explained, it is the democrats in the House that are abusing their power, not Trump.

House Democrats' impeachment report accuses Trump of obstruction, other misconduct
Democrats on Tuesday publicly released a new report accusing President Donald Trump of soliciting Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election for his benefit and obstructing the impeachment inquiry in the House of Representatives.

The 300-page report alleges a quid pro quo scheme in which Trump “conditioned official acts on a public announcement by the new Ukrainian President, Volodymyr Zelensky, of politically-motivated investigations” into former Vice President Joe Biden — a top Democratic presidential candidate — and his son Hunter.

“In pressuring President Zelensky to carry out his demand, President Trump withheld a White House meeting desperately sought by the Ukrainian President, and critical U.S. military assistance to fight Russian aggression in eastern Ukraine,” the report says.

Here's another article with the same accusation:
House Democrats conclude Trump solicited foreign interference in 2020
WASHINGTON – Three House committees investigating the potential impeachment of President Donald Trump uncovered a months-long effort "to use the powers of his office to solicit foreign interference on his behalf in the 2020 election," according to their draft report released Tuesday.

Let's take a poll....
Were you hit on the head or something?

Trump specifically connected Biden to Burisma in his phone call!

Jesus, you people are getting more desperate every day.

Sorry, Trump's legacy is set for all time. He will go down in history as the third president to ever be impeached.

A hundred years from now, the only thing Americans will know about Donald J. Trump is that he was a crooked game show host who was elected by Putin and tried to rig the 2020 election.

The end.
What a crock. Democrats are gonna be crying at this time next year.
 
You couldn't argue the points of my argument. You're a born loser.

Here's something for ya!

Treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters


Text - Treaty Document 106-16 - Treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters

Read it

Learn something

I'll bbl to quiz you.

Much Love,

William J. Clinton.

This is not a license for Trump to demand a investigation of a political rival. These treaties allow countries to request assistance in a investigation that is opened because of probable cause. There is no probable cause for the DOJ to open a investigation or for Ukraine to open a investigation. This is not Nazi Germany.
 
Here are the Top 10 Recipients of US Foreign Aid in 2018. Most of those countries are more corrupt than Ukraine.

Show me where Trump held up their aid until they agreed to investigate corruption. Hell, he shouldn't have given a penny to Israel since Bibi is crooked as a dog's hind leg! Netanyahu: What are the corruption charges?


Only a thoroughly demented, willfully stupid retard buys Trump's story about Ukraine and his concerns about corruption. The fact is he wanted to slander Biden for his personal political gain.

The end.
 
I hope the senate "rules" for the impeachment trial have the following:
1. No new evidence can be admitted
2. No hearsay evidence is allowed

If those are in effect the dems have no case.

Why would oppose no new evidence be admitted?

The House either has a valid case for impeachment or not, as written.
Its just making the Senate rules favorable to the president, the same way the House made their rules unfair to the president.

What was unfair about the House rules?

1. The GOP couldn't call all the witnesses they wanted, such as Ciaramella, Hunter Biden, Chalupa, etc.
2. The Chair told witnesses not to answer GOP many questions
3. The GOP wasn't allowed to issue subpoenas.
4. The democrats did not follow the same protocols for impeachment that were used previously, such as allowing "hearsay" evidence.

1. Because they were irrelevant.
2. Because they were irrelevant.
3. Because they were irrelevant.
4. The House rules were set up by House Republicans.
 

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