How many posters here are smarter than all the world's scientists?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Only GHGs in the lower half of the atmosphere are raising temperatures ... the GHGs in the upper half of the atmosphere work to keep solar longwave off Earth's surface, reducing temperatures ... this fact mitigates much of the man-made global warming due to carbon dioxide ...

Are you suggesting that the Earth and the Sun have similar radiative spectrums? It seems to me that there's a pretty significant temperature difference between the two and thus a pretty significant difference in their spectrums. While a few meters of CO2 at 400 ppm in our atmosphere is sufficient to absorb 100% of the IR radiated by the surface, while 22.5% of the incoming radiation from the Sun makes it through the complete thickness of our atmosphere, including reflective and opaque clouds. CO2 in the Stratosphere is not mitigating ANY significant amount of global warming

400PPM absorbs 100% IR? Are you insane?

Today I learned CO2 absorbs infrared completely in one direction, but only about 3/4 of it in the other direction.

Obviously, to save us all from global warming climate change the horrors of American coal and SUVs, we need to turn all the CO2 molecules upside down.

That, and world socialism, of course.

Today I learned CO2 absorbs infrared completely in one direction, but only about 3/4 of it in the other direction.

I don't think you did.

That's what Crick said.

"While a few meters of CO2 at 400 ppm in our atmosphere is sufficient to absorb 100% of the IR radiated by the surface, while 22.5% of the incoming radiation from the Sun makes it through the complete thickness of our atmosphere..."

While a few meters of CO2 at 400 ppm in our atmosphere is sufficient to absorb 100% of the IR radiated by the surface,

All the outgoing radiation from the Earth's surface is IR.

22.5% of the incoming radiation from the Sun

The incoming radiation from the Sun includes more than IR.

Then we're comparing how CO2 absorbs infrared to how the entire atmosphere absorbs all solar radiation.

Bad comparison is bad.

Then we're comparing how CO2 absorbs infrared to how the entire atmosphere absorbs all solar radiation.

We're not comparing anything. Just helping clarify what Crick posted.

Apples and oranges, all designed to elicit an emotional response. It's crap.

I agree, he's full of it.
We still need to be precise when we respond to his posts.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Generally speaking, "matter" doesn't radiate anything anywhere in particular.

Matter sure as hell does ... all Light Matter interacts with electromagnetic radiation ... you may be confusing this with the mythological substance called Dark Matter, which doesn't interact with electromagnetic radiation, which is why it's dark ... all atoms can absorb photons, thus all atoms can radiate photons ... why else would the Sun shine? ...

400PPM absorbs 100% IR? Are you insane?

The mean free path for IR in Earth's lower atmosphere is around 27 m ... almost 100 feet ... that's the average distance an IR photon will travel near Earth's surface ... maximum absorption for solar IR is above 99% of the atmosphere, and it's all gone by the time the solar IR passes through the top 18% of the atmosphere ... only visual light and radio waves can pass through the atmosphere unencumbered ... this is why IR telescopes have to be in orbit above the Earth's atmosphere, they'd get nothing (or fogged out by back radiation) from the Earth's surface, even atop Mt Everest ...

The main culprit here is water vapor ... carbon dioxide only reacts to IR in a few narrow bands where water doesn't, notably around 15 µm ... so, yeah, even 180 ppm is enough to keep almost all the IR photons from Earth's surface from directly reaching outer space ... which is why the Earth's surface is 30-40ºC warmer than expected without an atmosphere ...

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.

You should avoid gambling at all costs.

 

[Crick]

The reason more IR from the sun makes it to the Earth's surface than gets directly to space from the surface emission is its frequency. Most of the incoming IR is outside the CO2 absorption band.

 

[ReinyDays]

Generally speaking, "matter" doesn't radiate anything anywhere in particular.

Matter sure as hell does ... all Light Matter interacts with electromagnetic radiation ... you may be confusing this with the mythological substance called Dark Matter, which doesn't interact with electromagnetic radiation, which is why it's dark ... all atoms can absorb photons, thus all atoms can radiate photons ... why else would the Sun shine? ...

400PPM absorbs 100% IR? Are you insane?

The mean free path for IR in Earth's lower atmosphere is around 27 m ... almost 100 feet ... that's the average distance an IR photon will travel near Earth's surface ... maximum absorption for solar IR is above 99% of the atmosphere, and it's all gone by the time the solar IR passes through the top 18% of the atmosphere ... only visual light and radio waves can pass through the atmosphere unencumbered ... this is why IR telescopes have to be in orbit above the Earth's atmosphere, they'd get nothing (or fogged out by back radiation) from the Earth's surface, even atop Mt Everest ...

The main culprit here is water vapor ... carbon dioxide only reacts to IR in a few narrow bands where water doesn't, notably around 15 µm ... so, yeah, even 180 ppm is enough to keep almost all the IR photons from Earth's surface from directly reaching outer space ... which is why the Earth's surface is 30-40ºC warmer than expected without an atmosphere ...

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.

You should avoid gambling at all costs.

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.
You should avoid gambling at all costs.

Apparently you don't gamble yourself ... if a $180 bet wins $1,000,000, then that's even money (on average) ... yes, I'll always toss a buck on the Fire Bet every chance I can, with every expectation of tipping the dealers more ... but most (if not all) casinos will only pay $980,000 on that $180 bet ... 2% house take ... you should avoid banking a casino at all costs ...

Your phrasing is difficult ... should be "approaches 100%" ... certainty can only be established after-the-fact ... so in the real world we'll only see 99.999999999999999999999% ... perhaps higher, but still ≠ 100% ... thus my words "almost all the IR" ... if you try to take a course in chemistry at your local community college, likely they'll also make you take an English class, something to improve your reading skills ... this might surprise you, but "almost all" ≠ "certainty" ...

Perhaps you have a different explanation for the temperature maxima at 8 mb elevation? ... one that also explains the temperature maxima as we approach 0 mb ... (see how I used the word "approach"?) ... In science, it's never enough to say some theory is wrong, one must also state which theory is correct ... I'm sorry, photons don't come with return addresses, nor do molecules have the intelligence to decide which photons to accept and which to let pass by ... SSDD lead you astray ...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Generally speaking, "matter" doesn't radiate anything anywhere in particular.

Matter sure as hell does ... all Light Matter interacts with electromagnetic radiation ... you may be confusing this with the mythological substance called Dark Matter, which doesn't interact with electromagnetic radiation, which is why it's dark ... all atoms can absorb photons, thus all atoms can radiate photons ... why else would the Sun shine? ...

400PPM absorbs 100% IR? Are you insane?

The mean free path for IR in Earth's lower atmosphere is around 27 m ... almost 100 feet ... that's the average distance an IR photon will travel near Earth's surface ... maximum absorption for solar IR is above 99% of the atmosphere, and it's all gone by the time the solar IR passes through the top 18% of the atmosphere ... only visual light and radio waves can pass through the atmosphere unencumbered ... this is why IR telescopes have to be in orbit above the Earth's atmosphere, they'd get nothing (or fogged out by back radiation) from the Earth's surface, even atop Mt Everest ...

The main culprit here is water vapor ... carbon dioxide only reacts to IR in a few narrow bands where water doesn't, notably around 15 µm ... so, yeah, even 180 ppm is enough to keep almost all the IR photons from Earth's surface from directly reaching outer space ... which is why the Earth's surface is 30-40ºC warmer than expected without an atmosphere ...

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.

You should avoid gambling at all costs.

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.
You should avoid gambling at all costs.

Apparently you don't gamble yourself ... if a $180 bet wins $1,000,000, then that's even money (on average) ... yes, I'll always toss a buck on the Fire Bet every chance I can, with every expectation of tipping the dealers more ... but most (if not all) casinos will only pay $980,000 on that $180 bet ... 2% house take ... you should avoid banking a casino at all costs ...

Your phrasing is difficult ... should be "approaches 100%" ... certainty can only be established after-the-fact ... so in the real world we'll only see 99.999999999999999999999% ... perhaps higher, but still ≠ 100% ... thus my words "almost all the IR" ... if you try to take a course in chemistry at your local community college, likely they'll also make you take an English class, something to improve your reading skills ... this might surprise you, but "almost all" ≠ "certainty" ...

Perhaps you have a different explanation for the temperature maxima at 8 mb elevation? ... one that also explains the temperature maxima as we approach 0 mb ... (see how I used the word "approach"?) ... In science, it's never enough to say some theory is wrong, one must also state which theory is correct ... I'm sorry, photons don't come with return addresses, nor do molecules have the intelligence to decide which photons to accept and which to let pass by ... SSDD lead you astray ...

No, really. Stay away from gambling and anything to do with math. You don't have the first idea.

Avoid bets where your odds are 180 out of 1,000,000.

 

[ReinyDays]

Generally speaking, "matter" doesn't radiate anything anywhere in particular.

Matter sure as hell does ... all Light Matter interacts with electromagnetic radiation ... you may be confusing this with the mythological substance called Dark Matter, which doesn't interact with electromagnetic radiation, which is why it's dark ... all atoms can absorb photons, thus all atoms can radiate photons ... why else would the Sun shine? ...

400PPM absorbs 100% IR? Are you insane?

The mean free path for IR in Earth's lower atmosphere is around 27 m ... almost 100 feet ... that's the average distance an IR photon will travel near Earth's surface ... maximum absorption for solar IR is above 99% of the atmosphere, and it's all gone by the time the solar IR passes through the top 18% of the atmosphere ... only visual light and radio waves can pass through the atmosphere unencumbered ... this is why IR telescopes have to be in orbit above the Earth's atmosphere, they'd get nothing (or fogged out by back radiation) from the Earth's surface, even atop Mt Everest ...

The main culprit here is water vapor ... carbon dioxide only reacts to IR in a few narrow bands where water doesn't, notably around 15 µm ... so, yeah, even 180 ppm is enough to keep almost all the IR photons from Earth's surface from directly reaching outer space ... which is why the Earth's surface is 30-40ºC warmer than expected without an atmosphere ...

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.

You should avoid gambling at all costs.

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.
You should avoid gambling at all costs.

Apparently you don't gamble yourself ... if a $180 bet wins $1,000,000, then that's even money (on average) ... yes, I'll always toss a buck on the Fire Bet every chance I can, with every expectation of tipping the dealers more ... but most (if not all) casinos will only pay $980,000 on that $180 bet ... 2% house take ... you should avoid banking a casino at all costs ...

Your phrasing is difficult ... should be "approaches 100%" ... certainty can only be established after-the-fact ... so in the real world we'll only see 99.999999999999999999999% ... perhaps higher, but still ≠ 100% ... thus my words "almost all the IR" ... if you try to take a course in chemistry at your local community college, likely they'll also make you take an English class, something to improve your reading skills ... this might surprise you, but "almost all" ≠ "certainty" ...

Perhaps you have a different explanation for the temperature maxima at 8 mb elevation? ... one that also explains the temperature maxima as we approach 0 mb ... (see how I used the word "approach"?) ... In science, it's never enough to say some theory is wrong, one must also state which theory is correct ... I'm sorry, photons don't come with return addresses, nor do molecules have the intelligence to decide which photons to accept and which to let pass by ... SSDD lead you astray ...

No, really. Stay away from gambling and anything to do with math. You don't have the first idea.

Avoid bets where your odds are 180 out of 1,000,000.

Let's see your math ... $180 bet wins $1,000,000 ... what's my take after a 180 trillion rounds? ...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Generally speaking, "matter" doesn't radiate anything anywhere in particular.

Matter sure as hell does ... all Light Matter interacts with electromagnetic radiation ... you may be confusing this with the mythological substance called Dark Matter, which doesn't interact with electromagnetic radiation, which is why it's dark ... all atoms can absorb photons, thus all atoms can radiate photons ... why else would the Sun shine? ...

400PPM absorbs 100% IR? Are you insane?

The mean free path for IR in Earth's lower atmosphere is around 27 m ... almost 100 feet ... that's the average distance an IR photon will travel near Earth's surface ... maximum absorption for solar IR is above 99% of the atmosphere, and it's all gone by the time the solar IR passes through the top 18% of the atmosphere ... only visual light and radio waves can pass through the atmosphere unencumbered ... this is why IR telescopes have to be in orbit above the Earth's atmosphere, they'd get nothing (or fogged out by back radiation) from the Earth's surface, even atop Mt Everest ...

The main culprit here is water vapor ... carbon dioxide only reacts to IR in a few narrow bands where water doesn't, notably around 15 µm ... so, yeah, even 180 ppm is enough to keep almost all the IR photons from Earth's surface from directly reaching outer space ... which is why the Earth's surface is 30-40ºC warmer than expected without an atmosphere ...

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.

You should avoid gambling at all costs.

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.
You should avoid gambling at all costs.

Apparently you don't gamble yourself ... if a $180 bet wins $1,000,000, then that's even money (on average) ... yes, I'll always toss a buck on the Fire Bet every chance I can, with every expectation of tipping the dealers more ... but most (if not all) casinos will only pay $980,000 on that $180 bet ... 2% house take ... you should avoid banking a casino at all costs ...

Your phrasing is difficult ... should be "approaches 100%" ... certainty can only be established after-the-fact ... so in the real world we'll only see 99.999999999999999999999% ... perhaps higher, but still ≠ 100% ... thus my words "almost all the IR" ... if you try to take a course in chemistry at your local community college, likely they'll also make you take an English class, something to improve your reading skills ... this might surprise you, but "almost all" ≠ "certainty" ...

Perhaps you have a different explanation for the temperature maxima at 8 mb elevation? ... one that also explains the temperature maxima as we approach 0 mb ... (see how I used the word "approach"?) ... In science, it's never enough to say some theory is wrong, one must also state which theory is correct ... I'm sorry, photons don't come with return addresses, nor do molecules have the intelligence to decide which photons to accept and which to let pass by ... SSDD lead you astray ...

No, really. Stay away from gambling and anything to do with math. You don't have the first idea.

Avoid bets where your odds are 180 out of 1,000,000.

Let's see your math ... $180 bet wins $1,000,000 ... what's my take after a 180 trillion rounds? ...

Nothing Honey Boo Boo.

Nothing

You lose

The odds are 180 out of 1,000,000

Poker Percentage Odds Chart | Percentage Odds

Outs	1 Card To Come (flop)	1 Card To Come (turn)	2 Cards To Come (flop)
1	2.1%	2.2%	4.3%

Your odds are so much worse!

2.1% would be a dream come true for you!!

 

[ReinyDays]

Generally speaking, "matter" doesn't radiate anything anywhere in particular.

Matter sure as hell does ... all Light Matter interacts with electromagnetic radiation ... you may be confusing this with the mythological substance called Dark Matter, which doesn't interact with electromagnetic radiation, which is why it's dark ... all atoms can absorb photons, thus all atoms can radiate photons ... why else would the Sun shine? ...

400PPM absorbs 100% IR? Are you insane?

The mean free path for IR in Earth's lower atmosphere is around 27 m ... almost 100 feet ... that's the average distance an IR photon will travel near Earth's surface ... maximum absorption for solar IR is above 99% of the atmosphere, and it's all gone by the time the solar IR passes through the top 18% of the atmosphere ... only visual light and radio waves can pass through the atmosphere unencumbered ... this is why IR telescopes have to be in orbit above the Earth's atmosphere, they'd get nothing (or fogged out by back radiation) from the Earth's surface, even atop Mt Everest ...

The main culprit here is water vapor ... carbon dioxide only reacts to IR in a few narrow bands where water doesn't, notably around 15 µm ... so, yeah, even 180 ppm is enough to keep almost all the IR photons from Earth's surface from directly reaching outer space ... which is why the Earth's surface is 30-40ºC warmer than expected without an atmosphere ...

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.

You should avoid gambling at all costs.

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.
You should avoid gambling at all costs.

Apparently you don't gamble yourself ... if a $180 bet wins $1,000,000, then that's even money (on average) ... yes, I'll always toss a buck on the Fire Bet every chance I can, with every expectation of tipping the dealers more ... but most (if not all) casinos will only pay $980,000 on that $180 bet ... 2% house take ... you should avoid banking a casino at all costs ...

Your phrasing is difficult ... should be "approaches 100%" ... certainty can only be established after-the-fact ... so in the real world we'll only see 99.999999999999999999999% ... perhaps higher, but still ≠ 100% ... thus my words "almost all the IR" ... if you try to take a course in chemistry at your local community college, likely they'll also make you take an English class, something to improve your reading skills ... this might surprise you, but "almost all" ≠ "certainty" ...

Perhaps you have a different explanation for the temperature maxima at 8 mb elevation? ... one that also explains the temperature maxima as we approach 0 mb ... (see how I used the word "approach"?) ... In science, it's never enough to say some theory is wrong, one must also state which theory is correct ... I'm sorry, photons don't come with return addresses, nor do molecules have the intelligence to decide which photons to accept and which to let pass by ... SSDD lead you astray ...

No, really. Stay away from gambling and anything to do with math. You don't have the first idea.

Avoid bets where your odds are 180 out of 1,000,000.

Let's see your math ... $180 bet wins $1,000,000 ... what's my take after a 180 trillion rounds? ...

Nothing Honey Boo Boo.

Nothing

You lose

The odds are 180 out of 1,000,000

Poker Percentage Odds Chart | Percentage Odds

Outs	1 Card To Come (flop)	1 Card To Come (turn)	2 Cards To Come (flop)
1	2.1%	2.2%	4.3%

Your odds are so much worse!

2.1% would be a dream come true for you!!

What kind of poker game allows a $180 buy-in to a $1,000,000 dollar pot? ...

 

[jc456]

Generally speaking, "matter" doesn't radiate anything anywhere in particular.

Matter sure as hell does ... all Light Matter interacts with electromagnetic radiation ... you may be confusing this with the mythological substance called Dark Matter, which doesn't interact with electromagnetic radiation, which is why it's dark ... all atoms can absorb photons, thus all atoms can radiate photons ... why else would the Sun shine? ...

400PPM absorbs 100% IR? Are you insane?

The mean free path for IR in Earth's lower atmosphere is around 27 m ... almost 100 feet ... that's the average distance an IR photon will travel near Earth's surface ... maximum absorption for solar IR is above 99% of the atmosphere, and it's all gone by the time the solar IR passes through the top 18% of the atmosphere ... only visual light and radio waves can pass through the atmosphere unencumbered ... this is why IR telescopes have to be in orbit above the Earth's atmosphere, they'd get nothing (or fogged out by back radiation) from the Earth's surface, even atop Mt Everest ...

The main culprit here is water vapor ... carbon dioxide only reacts to IR in a few narrow bands where water doesn't, notably around 15 µm ... so, yeah, even 180 ppm is enough to keep almost all the IR photons from Earth's surface from directly reaching outer space ... which is why the Earth's surface is 30-40ºC warmer than expected without an atmosphere ...

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.

You should avoid gambling at all costs.

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.
You should avoid gambling at all costs.

Apparently you don't gamble yourself ... if a $180 bet wins $1,000,000, then that's even money (on average) ... yes, I'll always toss a buck on the Fire Bet every chance I can, with every expectation of tipping the dealers more ... but most (if not all) casinos will only pay $980,000 on that $180 bet ... 2% house take ... you should avoid banking a casino at all costs ...

Your phrasing is difficult ... should be "approaches 100%" ... certainty can only be established after-the-fact ... so in the real world we'll only see 99.999999999999999999999% ... perhaps higher, but still ≠ 100% ... thus my words "almost all the IR" ... if you try to take a course in chemistry at your local community college, likely they'll also make you take an English class, something to improve your reading skills ... this might surprise you, but "almost all" ≠ "certainty" ...

Perhaps you have a different explanation for the temperature maxima at 8 mb elevation? ... one that also explains the temperature maxima as we approach 0 mb ... (see how I used the word "approach"?) ... In science, it's never enough to say some theory is wrong, one must also state which theory is correct ... I'm sorry, photons don't come with return addresses, nor do molecules have the intelligence to decide which photons to accept and which to let pass by ... SSDD lead you astray ...

No, really. Stay away from gambling and anything to do with math. You don't have the first idea.

Avoid bets where your odds are 180 out of 1,000,000.

Let's see your math ... $180 bet wins $1,000,000 ... what's my take after a 180 trillion rounds? ...

Nothing Honey Boo Boo.

Nothing

You lose

The odds are 180 out of 1,000,000

Poker Percentage Odds Chart | Percentage Odds

Outs	1 Card To Come (flop)	1 Card To Come (turn)	2 Cards To Come (flop)
1	2.1%	2.2%	4.3%

Your odds are so much worse!

2.1% would be a dream come true for you!!

What kind of poker game allows a $180 buy-in to a $1,000,000 dollar pot? ...

Not what he said, but when one can’t read, I suppose there is that.

look up odds

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Generally speaking, "matter" doesn't radiate anything anywhere in particular.

Matter sure as hell does ... all Light Matter interacts with electromagnetic radiation ... you may be confusing this with the mythological substance called Dark Matter, which doesn't interact with electromagnetic radiation, which is why it's dark ... all atoms can absorb photons, thus all atoms can radiate photons ... why else would the Sun shine? ...

400PPM absorbs 100% IR? Are you insane?

The mean free path for IR in Earth's lower atmosphere is around 27 m ... almost 100 feet ... that's the average distance an IR photon will travel near Earth's surface ... maximum absorption for solar IR is above 99% of the atmosphere, and it's all gone by the time the solar IR passes through the top 18% of the atmosphere ... only visual light and radio waves can pass through the atmosphere unencumbered ... this is why IR telescopes have to be in orbit above the Earth's atmosphere, they'd get nothing (or fogged out by back radiation) from the Earth's surface, even atop Mt Everest ...

The main culprit here is water vapor ... carbon dioxide only reacts to IR in a few narrow bands where water doesn't, notably around 15 µm ... so, yeah, even 180 ppm is enough to keep almost all the IR photons from Earth's surface from directly reaching outer space ... which is why the Earth's surface is 30-40ºC warmer than expected without an atmosphere ...

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.

You should avoid gambling at all costs.

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.
You should avoid gambling at all costs.

Apparently you don't gamble yourself ... if a $180 bet wins $1,000,000, then that's even money (on average) ... yes, I'll always toss a buck on the Fire Bet every chance I can, with every expectation of tipping the dealers more ... but most (if not all) casinos will only pay $980,000 on that $180 bet ... 2% house take ... you should avoid banking a casino at all costs ...

Your phrasing is difficult ... should be "approaches 100%" ... certainty can only be established after-the-fact ... so in the real world we'll only see 99.999999999999999999999% ... perhaps higher, but still ≠ 100% ... thus my words "almost all the IR" ... if you try to take a course in chemistry at your local community college, likely they'll also make you take an English class, something to improve your reading skills ... this might surprise you, but "almost all" ≠ "certainty" ...

Perhaps you have a different explanation for the temperature maxima at 8 mb elevation? ... one that also explains the temperature maxima as we approach 0 mb ... (see how I used the word "approach"?) ... In science, it's never enough to say some theory is wrong, one must also state which theory is correct ... I'm sorry, photons don't come with return addresses, nor do molecules have the intelligence to decide which photons to accept and which to let pass by ... SSDD lead you astray ...

No, really. Stay away from gambling and anything to do with math. You don't have the first idea.

Avoid bets where your odds are 180 out of 1,000,000.

Let's see your math ... $180 bet wins $1,000,000 ... what's my take after a 180 trillion rounds? ...

Nothing Honey Boo Boo.

Nothing

You lose

The odds are 180 out of 1,000,000

Poker Percentage Odds Chart | Percentage Odds

Outs	1 Card To Come (flop)	1 Card To Come (turn)	2 Cards To Come (flop)
1	2.1%	2.2%	4.3%

Your odds are so much worse!

2.1% would be a dream come true for you!!

What kind of poker game allows a $180 buy-in to a $1,000,000 dollar pot? ...

How do you not get it????

 

[ReinyDays]

Generally speaking, "matter" doesn't radiate anything anywhere in particular.

Matter sure as hell does ... all Light Matter interacts with electromagnetic radiation ... you may be confusing this with the mythological substance called Dark Matter, which doesn't interact with electromagnetic radiation, which is why it's dark ... all atoms can absorb photons, thus all atoms can radiate photons ... why else would the Sun shine? ...

400PPM absorbs 100% IR? Are you insane?

The mean free path for IR in Earth's lower atmosphere is around 27 m ... almost 100 feet ... that's the average distance an IR photon will travel near Earth's surface ... maximum absorption for solar IR is above 99% of the atmosphere, and it's all gone by the time the solar IR passes through the top 18% of the atmosphere ... only visual light and radio waves can pass through the atmosphere unencumbered ... this is why IR telescopes have to be in orbit above the Earth's atmosphere, they'd get nothing (or fogged out by back radiation) from the Earth's surface, even atop Mt Everest ...

The main culprit here is water vapor ... carbon dioxide only reacts to IR in a few narrow bands where water doesn't, notably around 15 µm ... so, yeah, even 180 ppm is enough to keep almost all the IR photons from Earth's surface from directly reaching outer space ... which is why the Earth's surface is 30-40ºC warmer than expected without an atmosphere ...

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.

You should avoid gambling at all costs.

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.
You should avoid gambling at all costs.

Apparently you don't gamble yourself ... if a $180 bet wins $1,000,000, then that's even money (on average) ... yes, I'll always toss a buck on the Fire Bet every chance I can, with every expectation of tipping the dealers more ... but most (if not all) casinos will only pay $980,000 on that $180 bet ... 2% house take ... you should avoid banking a casino at all costs ...

Your phrasing is difficult ... should be "approaches 100%" ... certainty can only be established after-the-fact ... so in the real world we'll only see 99.999999999999999999999% ... perhaps higher, but still ≠ 100% ... thus my words "almost all the IR" ... if you try to take a course in chemistry at your local community college, likely they'll also make you take an English class, something to improve your reading skills ... this might surprise you, but "almost all" ≠ "certainty" ...

Perhaps you have a different explanation for the temperature maxima at 8 mb elevation? ... one that also explains the temperature maxima as we approach 0 mb ... (see how I used the word "approach"?) ... In science, it's never enough to say some theory is wrong, one must also state which theory is correct ... I'm sorry, photons don't come with return addresses, nor do molecules have the intelligence to decide which photons to accept and which to let pass by ... SSDD lead you astray ...

No, really. Stay away from gambling and anything to do with math. You don't have the first idea.

Avoid bets where your odds are 180 out of 1,000,000.

Let's see your math ... $180 bet wins $1,000,000 ... what's my take after a 180 trillion rounds? ...

Nothing Honey Boo Boo.

Nothing

You lose

The odds are 180 out of 1,000,000

Poker Percentage Odds Chart | Percentage Odds

Outs	1 Card To Come (flop)	1 Card To Come (turn)	2 Cards To Come (flop)
1	2.1%	2.2%	4.3%

Your odds are so much worse!

2.1% would be a dream come true for you!!

What kind of poker game allows a $180 buy-in to a $1,000,000 dollar pot? ...

How do you not get it????

How do you not get it????

Answer the question, fool ...
What kind of poker game allows a $180 buy-in to a $1,000,000 pot? ...

Gambling isn't only about odds, it's about pay-out as well ... stupid ...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Generally speaking, "matter" doesn't radiate anything anywhere in particular.

Matter sure as hell does ... all Light Matter interacts with electromagnetic radiation ... you may be confusing this with the mythological substance called Dark Matter, which doesn't interact with electromagnetic radiation, which is why it's dark ... all atoms can absorb photons, thus all atoms can radiate photons ... why else would the Sun shine? ...

400PPM absorbs 100% IR? Are you insane?

The mean free path for IR in Earth's lower atmosphere is around 27 m ... almost 100 feet ... that's the average distance an IR photon will travel near Earth's surface ... maximum absorption for solar IR is above 99% of the atmosphere, and it's all gone by the time the solar IR passes through the top 18% of the atmosphere ... only visual light and radio waves can pass through the atmosphere unencumbered ... this is why IR telescopes have to be in orbit above the Earth's atmosphere, they'd get nothing (or fogged out by back radiation) from the Earth's surface, even atop Mt Everest ...

The main culprit here is water vapor ... carbon dioxide only reacts to IR in a few narrow bands where water doesn't, notably around 15 µm ... so, yeah, even 180 ppm is enough to keep almost all the IR photons from Earth's surface from directly reaching outer space ... which is why the Earth's surface is 30-40ºC warmer than expected without an atmosphere ...

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.

You should avoid gambling at all costs.

The odds of 180/1,000,000 trapping 100% are clearly not in your favor.
You should avoid gambling at all costs.

Apparently you don't gamble yourself ... if a $180 bet wins $1,000,000, then that's even money (on average) ... yes, I'll always toss a buck on the Fire Bet every chance I can, with every expectation of tipping the dealers more ... but most (if not all) casinos will only pay $980,000 on that $180 bet ... 2% house take ... you should avoid banking a casino at all costs ...

Your phrasing is difficult ... should be "approaches 100%" ... certainty can only be established after-the-fact ... so in the real world we'll only see 99.999999999999999999999% ... perhaps higher, but still ≠ 100% ... thus my words "almost all the IR" ... if you try to take a course in chemistry at your local community college, likely they'll also make you take an English class, something to improve your reading skills ... this might surprise you, but "almost all" ≠ "certainty" ...

Perhaps you have a different explanation for the temperature maxima at 8 mb elevation? ... one that also explains the temperature maxima as we approach 0 mb ... (see how I used the word "approach"?) ... In science, it's never enough to say some theory is wrong, one must also state which theory is correct ... I'm sorry, photons don't come with return addresses, nor do molecules have the intelligence to decide which photons to accept and which to let pass by ... SSDD lead you astray ...

No, really. Stay away from gambling and anything to do with math. You don't have the first idea.

Avoid bets where your odds are 180 out of 1,000,000.

Let's see your math ... $180 bet wins $1,000,000 ... what's my take after a 180 trillion rounds? ...

Nothing Honey Boo Boo.

Nothing

You lose

The odds are 180 out of 1,000,000

Poker Percentage Odds Chart | Percentage Odds

Outs	1 Card To Come (flop)	1 Card To Come (turn)	2 Cards To Come (flop)
1	2.1%	2.2%	4.3%

Your odds are so much worse!

2.1% would be a dream come true for you!!

What kind of poker game allows a $180 buy-in to a $1,000,000 dollar pot? ...

How do you not get it????

How do you not get it????

Answer the question, fool ...
What kind of poker game allows a $180 buy-in to a $1,000,000 pot? ...

Gambling isn't only about odds, it's about pay-out as well ... stupid ...

You can freeroll into the WSOP Main Event. I think Chris Moneymaker won a $200 Satellite to get the $10K buy in.

Does EVERY $180 buy in win $1,000,000 every time as you suggest?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Real scientists are very smart, climate scientists not so much

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

manmade global warming is a weak hypothesis used to frighten weak minded people

 

[Crick]

Real scientists are very smart, climate scientists not so much

And this opinion is based on YOUR command of science and the scientific method? HAHAHAHAHAAAHAAAHAAaaaa... of for christ's sake Frank, give us a break.

 

[Crick]

manmade global warming is a weak hypothesis used to frighten weak minded people

No. It is an almost universally accepted scientific theory.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Real scientists are very smart, climate scientists not so much

And this opinion is based on YOUR command of science and the scientific method? HAHAHAHAHAAAHAAAHAAaaaa... of for christ's sake Frank, give us a break.

Has Guam tipped over?

Is the Arctic ice free?

Have you chained yourself to the Chinese Embassy to protest their world beating CO2 emissions?

Do you still treat the laboratory like Dracula greeting the sunrise?

How much of a temperature increase, if any, is demonstrated by increasing CO2 from 280 to 400PPM? Zero, right?

“A reliable way to make people believe in falsehoods is frequent repetition, because familiarity is not easily distinguished from truth. Authoritarian institutions and marketers have always known this fact.” ― Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow​

 

[CrusaderFrank]

manmade global warming is a weak hypothesis used to frighten weak minded people

No. It is an almost universally accepted scientific theory.

“A reliable way to make people believe in falsehoods is frequent repetition, because familiarity is not easily distinguished from truth. Authoritarian institutions and marketers have always known this fact.” ― Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow​

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

manmade global warming is a weak hypothesis used to frighten weak minded people

No. It is an almost universally accepted scientific theory.

sheep

 

[Crick]

manmade global warming is a weak hypothesis used to frighten weak minded people

No. It is an almost universally accepted scientific theory.

sheep

Are you a sheep for accepting that drunk driving puts you and others at risk? Are you a sheep for accepting that smoking is bad for your health and those around you? Are you a sheep for accepting that cholesterol and trans fats lead to heart disease? Are you a sheep for accepting that failing to wear a seat belt is a bad idea? Are you a sheep for accepting that children shouldn't run around with scissors in their hands? AGW IS an almost universally accepted scientific theory which you can see for yourself at Wikipedia's article on the Scientific Consensus on Climate Change, a link I have probably put up here at least 20 times. If you think accepting overwhelming, peer-reviewed evidence and the conclusions of tens of thousands of published, degreed scientists makes me a sheep, well then BAA-BAA-BAA motherfucker.