How Much Prison Time Should You Get For Having An Abortion?

[Vastator]

Birth control pills are optional. They are an elective.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Soo...you agree....forced sterilization was carried out by Liberals, Progressives, Democrats....not conservatives.
Excellent.

Want me to smash another custard pie in your kisser, and prove that the unborn is not a part of the mother's body????


Or....would that embarrass you too much?

We’re not talking about forced sterilization 90 years ago. We’re talking about what’s going on today.

People aren’t being sterilized today because they are intellectually handicapped.

They’re being denied birth control because they’re poor. They’re being denied birth control because right wingers don’t believe in it. They’re being denied birth control and sex education because rightbwingers believe that it promotes promiscuity.

Right wingers want to control women’s bodies. One way or another.

People are too lazy to buy rubbers and BC pills and expect me to work for less money in order to provide them with a way to get laid without fear of creating an even worse version of themselves!

Bullshit. They expect the medical insurance that they receive through their employers to pay for it. But instead, their employers are being allowed to determine whether or not birth control is included.

It’s the employee’s coverage. Shouldn’t the employee get to determine what’s covered?

Medical insurance pays for condoms?

Why should medical insurance pay for BC pills that cost like $4.00 a month?

The pills cost at least $15 a month and as much as $50. But that’s not the only costs. To get a prescription for pills, you have to have a doctor’s appointment annually and a number of expensive tests. That can add another $300 to the cost.

If my heath insurance costs $12,000, it damn well better cover birth control. If it’s part of my compensation package, it better be covered. It’s MY coverage, not my employer’s.

I think you are bitching to the wrong people about your health insurance and you need to get your prescriptions filled at WalMart and not at Nieman Marcus.

BTW, aren't you a Canuck anyway?

 

[Slyhunter]

It's a baby that the mother doesn't want to be responsible for and take care of. With an abortion, there should be mandatory sterilization. (in most cases)

Conservatives do really love the idea of forced sterilizations- and controlling women's bodies.

".. and controlling women's bodies."

How many times must the biology be explained to you??

How many times must I have to respond to your usual idiocy.

Conservatives do really love the idea of forced sterilizations- and controlling women's bodies.

Everyone should be sterilized at birth. If they can afford to reverse the procedure then that's proof they can afford to have a kid.

Conservatives do really love the idea of forced sterilizations- and controlling women's bodies.

Actually Conservatives hate my idea. I'm not really a Conservative.

 

[Syriusly]

Conservatives do really love the idea of forced sterilizations- and controlling women's bodies.

".. and controlling women's bodies."

How many times must the biology be explained to you??

How many times must I have to respond to your usual idiocy.

Conservatives do really love the idea of forced sterilizations- and controlling women's bodies.

Everyone should be sterilized at birth. If they can afford to reverse the procedure then that's proof they can afford to have a kid.

Conservatives do really love the idea of forced sterilizations- and controlling women's bodies.

Actually Conservatives hate my idea. I'm not really a Conservative.

Oh you are certainly a Conservative- and yes- you represent so many of your fellow travellors

 

[there4eyeM]

Those of us who do not regard this isolated issue, abortion, as a religious matter, see it rather in a larger scope. We wonder at the spectacle of so much "to do" over it. Looking at the political landscape of America and the world, there are so many much more important and dangerous matters that demand our attention. This is why we cannot understand the fascination with what's happening inside a woman's body when our own body politic is being eaten up by various, treatable cancers. We wonder how those who are so religious seem incapable of applying their concern to the greater causes that affect such things as abortion. After all, many, perhaps the majority, of the pregnancy terminations are the result of poor choices that proper education and social opportunities would obviate.
Merely punishing women and the babies they would be forced to bear to term seems to us unimaginative at least, unintelligent at worst. Meanwhile, other and greater causes of suffering and death are glossed over. This is why we see it as hypocrisy to want the state to impose a choice on women for their very special problem while at the same time that state collects money to buy bombs that indiscriminately kill innocent civilians in so many areas of our planet.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Jailed for ending a pregnancy: how prosecutors get inventive on abortion

Once Roe v Wade is ultimately struck down as Trump predicted -- since Trump promised to appoint judges who will overturn the 1973 SC decision; how much time should women and abortionists get for having an abortion?? If you knowingly drive a woman to get an abortion, should you also be charged?

Now I highly doubt we are going to insist that women get the death penalty for having an illegal abortion, but they have to be punished somehow -- Also, would killing an abortion doctor then be considered justified?

You have a serious problem with your analogy. Niel Gorsuch is a Trump SCOTUS appointee and during confimation hearings he stated that Roe V Wade is precedent in the U.S. Constitution meaning "set in stone to you."
Gorsuch to Feinstein: Abortion ruling is 'precedent'

In fact Democrats really like Niel Gorsuch. They voted for him as a G.W. Bush appointee to the Federal Appeals court in 2006, and at a time when they could have easily rejected him, as they were the majority in the Senate at that time. Here is a list of who approved of Niel Gorsuch in 2006. You"ll note that both Barack Obama & Hillary Clinton both voted for Niel Gorsuch's confirmation.

The only reason Democrats tried to block him this time around, is because they were pissed that Republicans didn't give Obama's last nominee, Merrick Garland an up or down vote. The only reason Republicans refused to give Merrick Garland and up or down vote is so they could campaign on the SCOTUS and fool dumbass's like you into believing that Trump's pick would overturn Roe V Wade.

As far as pissing off women, Republicans have done a great job of that already.

The 2nd annual womens march, January 20, 2018

More Than 4,000 Women Say They Want to Run for Office Since Trump's Election

1st woman's march held the day after Trump was inaugurated, January 20, 2017

For many more pictures go to this link on this board, and scroll through the many pages, you'll probably find your home state there---
Woman's march pictures

If they're willing to freeze their behinds off in January, they'll probably have no problem voting this coming November. "A sleeping giant has awoken."

For more on the Blue Wave coming this November to a Republican seat near you. Go to this link on this board.
Blue wave coming this November 2018

35 house Republicans don't announce their early retirements for no reason--
Blue wave coming this November 2018


That thread was done before the NEWS on separating children from their parents at the border. But don't worry, I think Trey Gowdy (before he retires this November) is going to do a 10th investigation into Benghazi---to get the base stirred into action.

Laura Bush blasts Trump migrant policy as 'cruel' and 'immoral'
Laura Bush says Trump's immigrant children policy is "cruel"

Trump: If Dems win in 2018 midterms, they'll impeach me
Republicans warn Trump could be impeached if Democrats win the midterm elections

There's nothiing like admitting guilt in those statements..

Go to this link on this board, you can read one article, watch 2 FOX NEWS video's and another video of Trump admitting to Obstruction of Justice on National T.V.

Go to this link, then scroll down to post # 56.
It’s Russia, Russia, Russia

After you're done with that a great book to read that will prepare you for the open public hearings and testimony. Then the impeachment proceedings will begin.

Mueller has accumulated 19 Federal Grand Jury indictments, 5 guilty plea's and another 90 + Federal Grand Jury criminal charges that are certain to produce more.

"Meet the New Democratic Socialists, Same as the Old Democratic Socialists!

...a message to the Democratic Establishment that the base of the party is moving decidedly more towards “Democratic socialism.” The only problem is that it seems nobody can get any specific answers on what this new “Democratic Socialism” actually is and how it differs from plain, run of the mill, failed socialism. Not even liberals can decide.

Abolish profit

Abolish prisons

Abolish cash bail

Abolish borders"
Meet the New Democratic Socialists, Same as the Old Democratic Socialists!




This is what you stand for when you vote Democrat.
Americans don't vote for this.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Everyone should be sterilized at birth. If they can afford to reverse



the procedure then that's proof they can afford to have a kid.

Conservatives do really love the idea of forced sterilizations- and controlling women's bodies.

"Conservatives do really love the idea of forced sterilizations"

What????


You require another spanking????

Please stop sharing your sexual fantasies with us.

I am pointing out the numerous times in this thread that you contards have proposed forced sterlizations and controlling women's bodies.

I didnt' even bring up about how you contards also tried to prevent women from access to birth control.

Soo...you agree....forced sterilization was carried out by Liberals, Progressives, Democrats....not conservatives.
Excellent.

Want me to smash another custard pie in your kisser, and prove that the unborn is not a part of the mother's body????


Or....would that embarrass you too much?

We’re not talking about forced sterilization 90 years ago. We’re talking about what’s going on today.

People aren’t being sterilized today because they are intellectually handicapped.

They’re being denied birth control because they’re poor. They’re being denied birth control because right wingers don’t believe in it. They’re being denied birth control and sex education because rightbwingers believe that it promotes promiscuity.

Right wingers want to control women’s bodies. One way or another.

Biology Bulletin:


The unborn human being inside of her is not part of the mother's body.


The unborn human receiving sustenance from its mother, is, nonetheless, a separate and distinct human being.

There are a number of clear biological facts, and all sorts of legal precedents, that easily refute the claim that the embryo or fetus is simply part of the mother's body.

1. An individual's body parts all share the same genetic code. If the unborn child were actually a part of the mother's body, the unborn's cells would have the same genetic code as the cells of the mother. This is not the case. Every cell of the unborn's body is genetically distinct from every cell in the mother's body.
2. In many cases, the blood type of the unborn child is different than the blood type of the mother. Since one body cannot function with two different blood types, this is clearly not the mother's blood.
3. In half of all pregnancies, the unborn child is a male, meaning that even the sex of the child is different from the mother.
4. As Randy Alcorn states in his book Pro-Life Answers to Pro-Choice Arguments, "A Chinese zygote implanted in a Swedish woman will always be Chinese, not Swedish, because his identity is based on his genetic code, not on that of the body in which he resides."1
5. It is possible for a fetus to die while the mother lives, and it is possible for the mother to die while the fetus lives. This could not be true if the mother and child were simply one person.
6. When the embryo implants in the lining of the uterus, it emits chemical substances which weaken the woman's immune system within the uterus so that this tiny "foreign" body is not rejected by the woman's body. Were this tiny embryo simply "part of the woman's body" there would be no need to locally disable the woman's immunities.
7. It is illegal to execute a pregnant woman on death row because the fetus living inside her is a distinct human being who cannot be executed for the crimes of the mother (International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights: Article 6.5).
8. When Scott Peterson killed his pregnant wife, Laci, he was convicted on two counts of murder.
9. Sir Albert Liley (the "Father of Fetology") made this observation in a 1970 speech entitled, "The Termination of Pregnancy or the Extermination of the Fetus?"

Physiologically, we must accept that the conceptus is, in a very large measure, in charge of the pregnancy.... Biologically, at no stage can we subscribe to the view that the fetus is a mere appendage of the mother.2

1. The late Christopher Hitchens, a prominent public intellectual, atheist, and abortion advocate wrote the following in his book, God is Not Great:

As a materialist, I think it has been demonstrated that an embryo is a separate body and entity, and not merely (as some really did used to argue) a growth on or in the female body. There used to be feminists who would say that it was more like an appendix or even—this was seriously maintained—a tumor. That nonsense seems to have stopped… Embryology confirms morality. The words “unborn child,” even when used in a politicized manner, describe a material reality.3

Hitchens had other reasons for supporting legal abortion, but he recognized the absurdity of claiming that unborn children are simply part of the mother's body.

11. No matter how you spin it, women don't have four arms and four legs when they're pregnant. Those extra appendages belong to the tiny human being(s) living inside of them. At no point in pregnancy is the developing embryo or fetus simply a part of the mother's body.

Footnotes

1. Randy Alcorn, Pro-Life Answers to Pro-Choice Arguments (Multnomah Publishers, 2000) p. 57.
2. Sir William Albert Liley,“The Termination of Pregnancy or the Extermination of the Fetus?” cited by Randy Alcorn, Pro-Life Answers to Pro-Choice Arguments, 58.
3. Christopher Hitchens, God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything (Hachette Book Group. Kindle Edition, 2009), 378-379.

Part of the Mother’s Body?


Is there any argument for the "right" of a woman to authorize the killing of her unborn baby that would not apply to her authorizing the similar slaughter of a year old that she was breastfeeding?




Say 'thank you,' you dunce.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Those of us who do not regard this isolated issue, abortion, as a religious matter, see it rather in a larger scope. We wonder at the spectacle of so much "to do" over it. Looking at the political landscape of America and the world, there are so many much more important and dangerous matters that demand our attention. This is why we cannot understand the fascination with what's happening inside a woman's body when our own body politic is being eaten up by various, treatable cancers. We wonder how those who are so religious seem incapable of applying their concern to the greater causes that affect such things as abortion. After all, many, perhaps the majority, of the pregnancy terminations are the result of poor choices that proper education and social opportunities would obviate.
Merely punishing women and the babies they would be forced to bear to term seems to us unimaginative at least, unintelligent at worst. Meanwhile, other and greater causes of suffering and death are glossed over. This is why we see it as hypocrisy to want the state to impose a choice on women for their very special problem while at the same time that state collects money to buy bombs that indiscriminately kill innocent civilians in so many areas of our planet.

Normal people see it as murder.

 

[strollingbones]

the majority of americans didnt vote for trump...now did they?

 

[Vastator]

the majority of americans didnt vote for trump...now did they?

Without voter ID laws... Who will ever know...?

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,

1. Murdering babies never helps a society.
2. Giving a woman the choice to murder is sub-human.
3. The female person, has a wonderful gift or capability, she can create life inside her body.
4. Giving her the power to murder or kill life that is within her body is tantamount to surrendering leadership of humanity, to females, and in so doing the human race becomes animals, not humans.
5. To do so is to usurp God, and that leads to all other kinds of usurpation.
6. Rainbow fags, they using the rainbow as a symbol of their homosexuality is an affront to God, that's God's symbol to never destroy humanity again with a flood, but there are countless other ways humanity can bring in destruction upon itself, and maybe God won't stand in the way and stop it, or God my pull the plug himself, can't say one way or the other.
6. (a) The Rainbow Flag used by homosexuals is a crime against God, and that alone won't stand much longer, because I pointed it out just now.
7. I can assure you God doesn't like or approve of abortions, and wrapping yourself in a Rainbow flag won't hide what you did.
8. Best thing that can happen is you die in birth, or suicide for lack of desiring the baby its own life.
9. The baby isn't yours to kill, isn't something or some one who can be just cast aside.
10. Live and let you die if you must, but protect that life within, protect the; *BABY*.
11. The baby is innocent, you are not.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,

1. *ALL* good girls seek a good man to marry and have children, if you are not a woman as such you are a affront to God.
2. You seek the wind, and will reap the whirlwind.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,

1. *ANY* judge who judges to give the women the right to murder carries a portion of those murders.
2. Judges are not above the moral law of God.
3. "Thou shall not kill."
4. Let me remind you.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[PoliticalChic]

the majority of americans didnt vote for trump...now did they?

Actually, they did.


We don't count the illegal aliens who Obama told to go out and vote.


Didn't you know that?

 

[strollingbones]

"we dont count' you dont count anything now do you?

 

[there4eyeM]

the majority of americans didnt vote for trump...now did they?

True. Even if half of those who voted did so for the 'Republican' candidate, almost half all eligible voters didn't participate. Thus, a majority did not vote for the candidate that 'won'.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"we dont count' you dont count anything now do you?

I count the votes of American citizens.

How about you?



illegals get driver's licenses that say no voting.....

Really?

I say Democrat's who work the polls ignore that blue bar and simply look at the name on the driver's license.

And guess what?

"It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California
If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes.
.... if you look at every other measure, Trump was the clear and decisive winner in this election."
It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California


Think California is loaded with illegal alien voters??????

You betcha'!!!!





California has the largest number of illegal immigrants in the United States, with an estimated 2.4 million unauthorized immigrants making up about 6.3 percent of the state's total population, according to the Pew Research Center.Sep 14, 2015

Illegal Immigration Statistics in California - Newsmax.com
www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/illegal-immigration-California/2015/09/14/.../691462/



Looking for the biggest Cinco de Mayo celebration in the world? Look no further than Fiesta Broadway in Los Angeles, where hundreds of thousands of people come out for food, music and crafts in a celebration of Hispanic heritage.

Which country has the tallest men in the world?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

That whole “responsibility” thing really pisses you selfish abortionists off doesn’t it?

So the message to the single Mom with an unplanned pregnancy because you cut funding to Planned Parenthood is:

It is your RESPONSIBILITY to have that baby - But not mine to feed it with government cheese even though you are working two jobs and daycare eats up half your income.

Check

No. Why is she behaving irresponsibly by having children that she can't afford?

Better question - Why was she not given better sex ed and access to birth control?

Probably due to our worthless govt schools.

 

[Slyhunter]

Those of us who do not regard this isolated issue, abortion, as a religious matter, see it rather in a larger scope. We wonder at the spectacle of so much "to do" over it. Looking at the political landscape of America and the world, there are so many much more important and dangerous matters that demand our attention. This is why we cannot understand the fascination with what's happening inside a woman's body when our own body politic is being eaten up by various, treatable cancers. We wonder how those who are so religious seem incapable of applying their concern to the greater causes that affect such things as abortion. After all, many, perhaps the majority, of the pregnancy terminations are the result of poor choices that proper education and social opportunities would obviate.
Merely punishing women and the babies they would be forced to bear to term seems to us unimaginative at least, unintelligent at worst. Meanwhile, other and greater causes of suffering and death are glossed over. This is why we see it as hypocrisy to want the state to impose a choice on women for their very special problem while at the same time that state collects money to buy bombs that indiscriminately kill innocent civilians in so many areas of our planet.

Normal people see it as murder.

no, Normal people don't care.
Where do we draw the line as to what life to protect as sacrosanct vs which one is not worthy of protection? Opening the door for unborn fetuses as being highly regarded for protection as intelligent life is not necessarily a good thing. Next they'll want to protect Porpoises. Then Monkeys. Then any animal that might someday become intelligent if humans don't get in their way of doing so. It's a slippery slope, much like the acceptance of Gays is.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Those of us who do not regard this isolated issue, abortion, as a religious matter, see it rather in a larger scope. We wonder at the spectacle of so much "to do" over it. Looking at the political landscape of America and the world, there are so many much more important and dangerous matters that demand our attention. This is why we cannot understand the fascination with what's happening inside a woman's body when our own body politic is being eaten up by various, treatable cancers. We wonder how those who are so religious seem incapable of applying their concern to the greater causes that affect such things as abortion. After all, many, perhaps the majority, of the pregnancy terminations are the result of poor choices that proper education and social opportunities would obviate.
Merely punishing women and the babies they would be forced to bear to term seems to us unimaginative at least, unintelligent at worst. Meanwhile, other and greater causes of suffering and death are glossed over. This is why we see it as hypocrisy to want the state to impose a choice on women for their very special problem while at the same time that state collects money to buy bombs that indiscriminately kill innocent civilians in so many areas of our planet.

Normal people see it as murder.

no, Normal people don't care.
Where do we draw the line as to what life to protect as sacrosanct vs which one is not worthy of protection? Opening the door for unborn fetuses as being highly regarded for protection as intelligent life is not necessarily a good thing. Next they'll want to protect Porpoises. Then Monkeys. Then any animal that might someday become intelligent if humans don't get in their way of doing so. It's a slippery slope, much like the acceptance of Gays is.

"Opening the door for unborn fetuses as being highly regarded for protection as intelligent life is not necessarily a good thing."


WHAT?????

It's this simple: ALL lives of innocents are worthy of being protected, most especially if the excuse for murder is 'convenience.'

Get it?????