How the liberal wish list could bite Democrats

[kyzr]

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A Trump-inspired resurgence on the left has even many centrist Democrats embracing an outspokenly liberal wish list as their party hopes to capture one or both chambers of Congress in November. Just don’t count on any of it happening soon.

Even symbolic votes on the growing roster of progressive expectations could create political headaches for Democrats seeking the White House in 2020. That means "Medicare for all," debt-free college and a $15 minimum wage will remain more the subject of liberal aspirations than represent a real shift in the nation's policies.

President Donald Trump is already trying to tar progressive ideas as ballot-box poison, denouncing single-payer health care as Venezuela-style “socialism” (never mind that he endorsed it in 2000) and saying Democrats who want to abolish the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency must have a “death wish.” Democrats may have trouble uniting even on repeal of Trump’s $1.5 trillion tax cut, which received not a single Democratic vote in either chamber when it passed last year. - Source​

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Here are ten issues the article mentions along with my opinions;

1. Single-payer health care - I support universal health care. It's time is overdue

2. $15 minimum wage - Too much, too little, too late. Such a move will force further mechanization, cause permanent lay offs, close businesses and reward people whose work even now is marginal.

3. Abolishing ICE - Stupid idea. Just because tump is abusing it is no reason to eliminate it.

4. Repealing the tax cuts - I can definitely support this.

5. Debt-free college - Yes. Not Free college but loans without all the high interest rates.

6. Net neutrality - 100% support.

7. A $1 trillion infrastructure plan - It's needed, that's for sure. Working out funding will be difficult.

8. Defense cuts - Definitely. Use the savings for infrastructure.

9. Ending “too big to fail” - Yes....and work out plans to abolish or change the laws that allowed for the "Citizens United" ruling.

10. Climate change - I favor the eventual elimination of fossil fuels to renewable/green energy.

The problem here is that the clintonian democrats will not change a damn thing.
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Good list. I would stand behind it.

Here are a few more dem "wish list" items that most voters consider non-starters.
1. Open borders
2. Sanctuary cities
3. Free college
4. Free Healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE
6. Promote Globalism
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and delivery systems
11. Tax corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
16. No new pipelines
17. No offshore drilling
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism
19. Colleges deny any speakers except liberals and indoctrinate kids to be lifelong liberals or flunk out
20. The dems allow only super-delegates to vote and deny regular people to vote in primaries (slight exaggeration)
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and published the phony Steele Dossier
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger. Stop and frisk saved lives, democrat Chicago is a war zone
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates.
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud.

 

[Coyote]

The interesting thing about minimum wage increases is it seems the states are taking it on. Maybe no need for a federal hike.

 

[BrokeLoser]

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A Trump-inspired resurgence on the left has even many centrist Democrats embracing an outspokenly liberal wish list as their party hopes to capture one or both chambers of Congress in November. Just don’t count on any of it happening soon.

Even symbolic votes on the growing roster of progressive expectations could create political headaches for Democrats seeking the White House in 2020. That means "Medicare for all," debt-free college and a $15 minimum wage will remain more the subject of liberal aspirations than represent a real shift in the nation's policies.

President Donald Trump is already trying to tar progressive ideas as ballot-box poison, denouncing single-payer health care as Venezuela-style “socialism” (never mind that he endorsed it in 2000) and saying Democrats who want to abolish the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency must have a “death wish.” Democrats may have trouble uniting even on repeal of Trump’s $1.5 trillion tax cut, which received not a single Democratic vote in either chamber when it passed last year. - Source​

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Here are ten issues the article mentions along with my opinions;

1. Single-payer health care - I support universal health care. It's time is overdue

2. $15 minimum wage - Too much, too little, too late. Such a move will force further mechanization, cause permanent lay offs, close businesses and reward people whose work even now is marginal.

3. Abolishing ICE - Stupid idea. Just because tump is abusing it is no reason to eliminate it.

4. Repealing the tax cuts - I can definitely support this.

5. Debt-free college - Yes. Not Free college but loans without all the high interest rates.

6. Net neutrality - 100% support.

7. A $1 trillion infrastructure plan - It's needed, that's for sure. Working out funding will be difficult.

8. Defense cuts - Definitely. Use the savings for infrastructure.

9. Ending “too big to fail” - Yes....and work out plans to abolish or change the laws that allowed for the "Citizens United" ruling.

10. Climate change - I favor the eventual elimination of fossil fuels to renewable/green energy.

The problem here is that the clintonian democrats will not change a damn thing.
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Good list. I would stand behind it.

Here are a few more dem "wish list" items that most voters consider non-starters.
1. Open borders
2. Sanctuary cities
3. Free college
4. Free Healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE
6. Promote Globalism
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and delivery systems
11. Tax corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
16. No new pipelines
17. No offshore drilling
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism
19. Colleges deny any speakers except liberals and indoctrinate kids to be lifelong liberals or flunk out
20. The dems allow only super-delegates to vote and deny regular people to vote in primaries (slight exaggeration)
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and published the phony Steele Dossier
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger. Stop and frisk saved lives, democrat Chicago is a war zone
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates.
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud.

Haha...you nailed it.
Your list is a far more accurate description of the pressing issues at the top of the DNC’s ‘to do’ list.

 

[Coyote]

I guess now a days, they call Independent/third party as "swing voters", not sure though. Time to get more youth involved in politics.

Not really. Youth don't really understand how the real world works....

Now funny thing, when I was in college, I voted Republican. And I did for years. Some times that made sense, like the 11 years I was in the military, they kept the money spigot on. Sometimes I voted for emotion, like when I thought Bill Clinton was a complete sleeze even though I did kind of okay when he was in charge.

That mightbe true but youth are often the catslyst for change. They have the passion and refuse to be held back by the way the real world is. Look at the civil and voting rights movement in the south.

 

[Coyote]

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A Trump-inspired resurgence on the left has even many centrist Democrats embracing an outspokenly liberal wish list as their party hopes to capture one or both chambers of Congress in November. Just don’t count on any of it happening soon.

Even symbolic votes on the growing roster of progressive expectations could create political headaches for Democrats seeking the White House in 2020. That means "Medicare for all," debt-free college and a $15 minimum wage will remain more the subject of liberal aspirations than represent a real shift in the nation's policies.

President Donald Trump is already trying to tar progressive ideas as ballot-box poison, denouncing single-payer health care as Venezuela-style “socialism” (never mind that he endorsed it in 2000) and saying Democrats who want to abolish the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency must have a “death wish.” Democrats may have trouble uniting even on repeal of Trump’s $1.5 trillion tax cut, which received not a single Democratic vote in either chamber when it passed last year. - Source​

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Here are ten issues the article mentions along with my opinions;

1. Single-payer health care - I support universal health care. It's time is overdue

2. $15 minimum wage - Too much, too little, too late. Such a move will force further mechanization, cause permanent lay offs, close businesses and reward people whose work even now is marginal.

3. Abolishing ICE - Stupid idea. Just because tump is abusing it is no reason to eliminate it.

4. Repealing the tax cuts - I can definitely support this.

5. Debt-free college - Yes. Not Free college but loans without all the high interest rates.

6. Net neutrality - 100% support.

7. A $1 trillion infrastructure plan - It's needed, that's for sure. Working out funding will be difficult.

8. Defense cuts - Definitely. Use the savings for infrastructure.

9. Ending “too big to fail” - Yes....and work out plans to abolish or change the laws that allowed for the "Citizens United" ruling.

10. Climate change - I favor the eventual elimination of fossil fuels to renewable/green energy.

The problem here is that the clintonian democrats will not change a damn thing.
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Good list. I would stand behind it.

Here are a few more dem "wish list" items that most voters consider non-starters.
1. Open borders
2. Sanctuary cities
3. Free college
4. Free Healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE
6. Promote Globalism
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and delivery systems
11. Tax corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
16. No new pipelines
17. No offshore drilling
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism
19. Colleges deny any speakers except liberals and indoctrinate kids to be lifelong liberals or flunk out
20. The dems allow only super-delegates to vote and deny regular people to vote in primaries (slight exaggeration)
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and published the phony Steele Dossier
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger. Stop and frisk saved lives, democrat Chicago is a war zone
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates.
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud.

that looks more like the fictional rightwing bogeyman list than reality.

 

[Natural Citizen]

The interesting thing about minimum wage increases is it seems the states are taking it on. Maybe no need for a federal hike.

By default, a minimum wage rate above the market wage rate will create a surplus wedge between the supply of labor and the demand for labor. This will create an increase in unemployment.

If the minimum wage is the means to prosperity, then, why stop at $15 per hour, why not $50, $75, or $100 per hour? Hm? Why not? Surely, you've considered this question. Right?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Between 1.8 trillion and 2.4 trillion PER YEAR.

I repeat:

PER YEAR.

Wow, awesome...that's a lot less than we are paying now...you do a good job of arguing FOR single payer.

 

[Natural Citizen]

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A Trump-inspired resurgence on the left has even many centrist Democrats embracing an outspokenly liberal wish list as their party hopes to capture one or both chambers of Congress in November. Just don’t count on any of it happening soon.

Even symbolic votes on the growing roster of progressive expectations could create political headaches for Democrats seeking the White House in 2020. That means "Medicare for all," debt-free college and a $15 minimum wage will remain more the subject of liberal aspirations than represent a real shift in the nation's policies.

President Donald Trump is already trying to tar progressive ideas as ballot-box poison, denouncing single-payer health care as Venezuela-style “socialism” (never mind that he endorsed it in 2000) and saying Democrats who want to abolish the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency must have a “death wish.” Democrats may have trouble uniting even on repeal of Trump’s $1.5 trillion tax cut, which received not a single Democratic vote in either chamber when it passed last year. - Source​

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Here are ten issues the article mentions along with my opinions;

1. Single-payer health care - I support universal health care. It's time is overdue

2. $15 minimum wage - Too much, too little, too late. Such a move will force further mechanization, cause permanent lay offs, close businesses and reward people whose work even now is marginal.

3. Abolishing ICE - Stupid idea. Just because tump is abusing it is no reason to eliminate it.

4. Repealing the tax cuts - I can definitely support this.

5. Debt-free college - Yes. Not Free college but loans without all the high interest rates.

6. Net neutrality - 100% support.

7. A $1 trillion infrastructure plan - It's needed, that's for sure. Working out funding will be difficult.

8. Defense cuts - Definitely. Use the savings for infrastructure.

9. Ending “too big to fail” - Yes....and work out plans to abolish or change the laws that allowed for the "Citizens United" ruling.

10. Climate change - I favor the eventual elimination of fossil fuels to renewable/green energy.

The problem here is that the clintonian democrats will not change a damn thing.
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Though well intended, there's quite a bit wrong with this list of thoughts. It's not thought out well.

For instance, a lot of people don't know that military spending and defense spending are two entirely different budgets.

What we need to cut is military spending. All that's doing is enriching the weapons manufacturers and keeping us in perpetual preemptive war.

Defense spending, on the other hand, it can be resolved by bringing our troops home and building more bases here. That's real defense spending and it's constitutional.

The whole list could be picked apart, really, but there's nothing to be had by it. Not really.

As far as the student debt, I'd rather give em tax credits. That's a bit of a deeper economic and policy discussion, though.

 

[Coyote]

The interesting thing about minimum wage increases is it seems the states are taking it on. Maybe no need for a federal hike.

By default, a minimum wage rate above the market wage rate will create a surplus wedge between the supply of labor and the demand for labor. This will create an increase in unemployment.

If the minimum wage is the means to prosperity, then, why stop at $15 per hour, why not $50, $75, or $100 per hour? Hm? Why not? Surely, you've considered this question. Right?

I think a mandated minimum is one way of improving the odds to prosperity. We dont need to go back to the old sweatshop wages.

As to how high? Depends on a lot of factors I would think...what can the market handle, what is the average cost of living etc.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I think a mandated minimum is one way of improving the odds to prosperity. We dont need to go back to the old sweatshop wages.

As to how high? Depends on a lot of factors I would think...what can the market handle, what is the average cost of living etc.

You know, speaking of the standard of living, the GOP adopted chained CPI into their tax bill.

This effectively legalized lying about the effect of inflation on the standard of living. All of my conservative peers keep poppin off about they got a tax cut but in reality we all got a gradual tax increase. When it expires, many in the middle class will be bumped up into higher tax brackets. I loled.

As far as mandates, I don't like them. I'm a goshed darn rebel, coyote. I'm freakin crazy. lol.

 

[Windparadox]

Though well intended, there's quite a bit wrong with this list of thoughts. It's not thought out well.For instance, a lot of peopldonlt know that military spending and defense spending are two entirely different budgets. What we need to cut is military spending. All that's doing is enriching the weapons manufacturers and keeping us in perpetual preemptive war.Defense spending, on the other hand, it can be resolved by briging our troops home and building more bases here. That's real defense spending and it's constitutional. The while list could be picked apart, really, but there's nothing to be had by it. Not really.As far as the student debt, I'd rather give em tax credits. That's a bit of a deeper economic and policy discussion, though.

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Actually, it's not my list. I was quoting from an article on Politico, written by Timothy Noah. I like your ideas better.

 

[Natural Citizen]

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Actually, it's not my list. I was quoting from an article on Politico, written by Timothy Noah. I like your ideas better.

Oh, good. Thank You. Now, if I would have said those things to one of my conservative peers, they would have went to war with me about it. This is why I get along better with my leftists peers. It's a sad state of affairs, isn't it?

One definite thing that I agree with him about and he certainly got right, aside from confusing defense spending with military spending, is that all of that money could be put back in people's pockets and they'd be able to afford healthcare, instead of enrichng the politicians, weapons manufacturers and special interests like the oil industry and western agribusiness.

The reason people can't afford healthcare is because they're being forced to empty their pockets to the military contractors. This is trillions of dollars we're talking about.

It's crazy. Trillions of dollars being robbed from Americans in order to fund preemptive war and foreign special interest ventures. And for what? Nobody has done anything to us.

 

[danielpalos]

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A Trump-inspired resurgence on the left has even many centrist Democrats embracing an outspokenly liberal wish list as their party hopes to capture one or both chambers of Congress in November. Just don’t count on any of it happening soon.

Even symbolic votes on the growing roster of progressive expectations could create political headaches for Democrats seeking the White House in 2020. That means "Medicare for all," debt-free college and a $15 minimum wage will remain more the subject of liberal aspirations than represent a real shift in the nation's policies.

President Donald Trump is already trying to tar progressive ideas as ballot-box poison, denouncing single-payer health care as Venezuela-style “socialism” (never mind that he endorsed it in 2000) and saying Democrats who want to abolish the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency must have a “death wish.” Democrats may have trouble uniting even on repeal of Trump’s $1.5 trillion tax cut, which received not a single Democratic vote in either chamber when it passed last year. - Source​

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Here are ten issues the article mentions along with my opinions;

1. Single-payer health care - I support universal health care. It's time is overdue

2. $15 minimum wage - Too much, too little, too late. Such a move will force further mechanization, cause permanent lay offs, close businesses and reward people whose work even now is marginal.

3. Abolishing ICE - Stupid idea. Just because tump is abusing it is no reason to eliminate it.

4. Repealing the tax cuts - I can definitely support this.

5. Debt-free college - Yes. Not Free college but loans without all the high interest rates.

6. Net neutrality - 100% support.

7. A $1 trillion infrastructure plan - It's needed, that's for sure. Working out funding will be difficult.

8. Defense cuts - Definitely. Use the savings for infrastructure.

9. Ending “too big to fail” - Yes....and work out plans to abolish or change the laws that allowed for the "Citizens United" ruling.

10. Climate change - I favor the eventual elimination of fossil fuels to renewable/green energy.

The problem here is that the clintonian democrats will not change a damn thing.
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we could start with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

 

[Silhouette]

One definite thing that I agree with him about and he certainly got right, aside from confusing defense spending with military spending, is that all of that money could be put back in people's pockets and they'd be able to afford healthcare, instead of enrichng the politicians, weapons manufacturers and special interests like the oil industry and western agribusiness.

Universal Healthcare (UH) can be seen as an aside to all that. Freeing up the equivalent of a second mortgage to most homes paying for private insurance would spur our economy like no other. Lifting the burden of private insurance off of employers would free them up to hire almost twice as many people, spurring the new home buyer's market...more economic boon.

UH would also free up $billions spent on platoons of medical insurance billing staff paid and necessary as part of today's hodgepodge and war with insurance claims adjusters. Those people with a spurred economy could seek ample employment elsewhere.

The only people profiting from the current system of guaranteed ER-visit $900 for two tylenols are the tycoons at the top of the insurance industry racket. The country suffers horribly meanwhile; not to mention those hiding their illnesses and wounds for fear of bankruptcy should their high-deductables and "pre-existing condition" penalties tip the family over into immediate destitution...

The current system isn't merely sadistic, its' asinine. The numbers can't be justified. So instead you get their paid bloggers showing up to respond to posts like this one hoping to demonize any of its critics and use smokescreen to keep the gravy train in place for that handful of assholes ruining the US economy. One wonders if the ultimate decisions at the top on UH aren't being made by Chinese or Russians? I mean, it's that subversive, the current system.

"Oh my GOD!! How would we PAY for UH!!" Article I, Section 8. Tax junk food, sodas, tobacco & booze at every sale across the US, every day. Then, small co-pays at service to discourage abuse of the system while keeping it within reach for those who would otherwise hide their illness to save money for the family....making the illness worse (and more expensive) ultimately for the system.

The benefits of UH would outweigh any additional costs to maintain it by like 10-1. The overall boost to the economy would be immediately felt and in a tremendous relief. Imagine you, Joe taxpayer, getting basically the same level of healthcare your insurance claims adjusters whittle you down into anyway, only not having to pay for it at all, except small co-pays at time of visit? Imagine what you would do with all that free cash each month?

1. Driving to more events (Hello BigOil)

2. Taking more vacations (Hello struggling vacation industry)

3. Buying more gifts and durable goods (Hello sagging manufacturing)

4. Save up to buy a home and stop renting (Hello endangered housing market/banking/loans).

etc.

BigOil, BigVacation, BigManufacturing & BigRealEstate are not mamby pamby liberal outfits. They are the bedrock of the trickle-up conservative economy. Everyone wins. Yet the system remains beaten down like a rented mule.

 

[danielpalos]

free full body massage with happy ending for right wing women willing to vote blue!

 

[Silhouette]

free full body massage with happy ending for right wing women willing to vote blue!

Their husbands can do that for them danny boy. Gonna need more than that this time.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The interesting thing about minimum wage increases is it seems the states are taking it on. Maybe no need for a federal hike.

There wouldn't be a need for one regardless. You can't just increase minimum wage. All other wages would have to go up with it, and we're having a hard enough time keeping our employers in the country as it is.

When states do it, businesses can leave those states for more business friendly grounds. A national increase would only give them one place to go, and that is anywhere out of this country.

 

[Wyatt earp]

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A Trump-inspired resurgence on the left has even many centrist Democrats embracing an outspokenly liberal wish list as their party hopes to capture one or both chambers of Congress in November. Just don’t count on any of it happening soon.

Even symbolic votes on the growing roster of progressive expectations could create political headaches for Democrats seeking the White House in 2020. That means "Medicare for all," debt-free college and a $15 minimum wage will remain more the subject of liberal aspirations than represent a real shift in the nation's policies.

President Donald Trump is already trying to tar progressive ideas as ballot-box poison, denouncing single-payer health care as Venezuela-style “socialism” (never mind that he endorsed it in 2000) and saying Democrats who want to abolish the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency must have a “death wish.” Democrats may have trouble uniting even on repeal of Trump’s $1.5 trillion tax cut, which received not a single Democratic vote in either chamber when it passed last year. - Source​

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Here are ten issues the article mentions along with my opinions;

1. Single-payer health care - I support universal health care. It's time is overdue

2. $15 minimum wage - Too much, too little, too late. Such a move will force further mechanization, cause permanent lay offs, close businesses and reward people whose work even now is marginal.

3. Abolishing ICE - Stupid idea. Just because tump is abusing it is no reason to eliminate it.

4. Repealing the tax cuts - I can definitely support this.

5. Debt-free college - Yes. Not Free college but loans without all the high interest rates.

6. Net neutrality - 100% support.

7. A $1 trillion infrastructure plan - It's needed, that's for sure. Working out funding will be difficult.

8. Defense cuts - Definitely. Use the savings for infrastructure.

9. Ending “too big to fail” - Yes....and work out plans to abolish or change the laws that allowed for the "Citizens United" ruling.

10. Climate change - I favor the eventual elimination of fossil fuels to renewable/green energy.

The problem here is that the clintonian democrats will not change a damn thing.
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we could start with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

They won't pay you for being unemployed in prision, but you knew that already number 5631


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[kyzr]

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A Trump-inspired resurgence on the left has even many centrist Democrats embracing an outspokenly liberal wish list as their party hopes to capture one or both chambers of Congress in November. Just don’t count on any of it happening soon.

Even symbolic votes on the growing roster of progressive expectations could create political headaches for Democrats seeking the White House in 2020. That means "Medicare for all," debt-free college and a $15 minimum wage will remain more the subject of liberal aspirations than represent a real shift in the nation's policies.

President Donald Trump is already trying to tar progressive ideas as ballot-box poison, denouncing single-payer health care as Venezuela-style “socialism” (never mind that he endorsed it in 2000) and saying Democrats who want to abolish the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency must have a “death wish.” Democrats may have trouble uniting even on repeal of Trump’s $1.5 trillion tax cut, which received not a single Democratic vote in either chamber when it passed last year. - Source​

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Here are ten issues the article mentions along with my opinions;

1. Single-payer health care - I support universal health care. It's time is overdue

2. $15 minimum wage - Too much, too little, too late. Such a move will force further mechanization, cause permanent lay offs, close businesses and reward people whose work even now is marginal.

3. Abolishing ICE - Stupid idea. Just because tump is abusing it is no reason to eliminate it.

4. Repealing the tax cuts - I can definitely support this.

5. Debt-free college - Yes. Not Free college but loans without all the high interest rates.

6. Net neutrality - 100% support.

7. A $1 trillion infrastructure plan - It's needed, that's for sure. Working out funding will be difficult.

8. Defense cuts - Definitely. Use the savings for infrastructure.

9. Ending “too big to fail” - Yes....and work out plans to abolish or change the laws that allowed for the "Citizens United" ruling.

10. Climate change - I favor the eventual elimination of fossil fuels to renewable/green energy.

The problem here is that the clintonian democrats will not change a damn thing.
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Good list. I would stand behind it.

Here are a few more dem "wish list" items that most voters consider non-starters.
1. Open borders
2. Sanctuary cities
3. Free college
4. Free Healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE
6. Promote Globalism
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and delivery systems
11. Tax corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
16. No new pipelines
17. No offshore drilling
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism
19. Colleges deny any speakers except liberals and indoctrinate kids to be lifelong liberals or flunk out
20. The dems allow only super-delegates to vote and deny regular people to vote in primaries (slight exaggeration)
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and published the phony Steele Dossier
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger. Stop and frisk saved lives, democrat Chicago is a war zone
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates.
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud.

that looks more like the fictional rightwing bogeyman list than reality.

Not fiction, those are all democrat positions. Which do you think are not true? You just can't call bullshit without posting some type of rebuttal.

 

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A Trump-inspired resurgence on the left has even many centrist Democrats embracing an outspokenly liberal wish list as their party hopes to capture one or both chambers of Congress in November. Just don’t count on any of it happening soon.

Even symbolic votes on the growing roster of progressive expectations could create political headaches for Democrats seeking the White House in 2020. That means "Medicare for all," debt-free college and a $15 minimum wage will remain more the subject of liberal aspirations than represent a real shift in the nation's policies.

President Donald Trump is already trying to tar progressive ideas as ballot-box poison, denouncing single-payer health care as Venezuela-style “socialism” (never mind that he endorsed it in 2000) and saying Democrats who want to abolish the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency must have a “death wish.” Democrats may have trouble uniting even on repeal of Trump’s $1.5 trillion tax cut, which received not a single Democratic vote in either chamber when it passed last year. - Source​

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Here are ten issues the article mentions along with my opinions;

1. Single-payer health care - I support universal health care. It's time is overdue

2. $15 minimum wage - Too much, too little, too late. Such a move will force further mechanization, cause permanent lay offs, close businesses and reward people whose work even now is marginal.

3. Abolishing ICE - Stupid idea. Just because tump is abusing it is no reason to eliminate it.

4. Repealing the tax cuts - I can definitely support this.

5. Debt-free college - Yes. Not Free college but loans without all the high interest rates.

6. Net neutrality - 100% support.

7. A $1 trillion infrastructure plan - It's needed, that's for sure. Working out funding will be difficult.

8. Defense cuts - Definitely. Use the savings for infrastructure.

9. Ending “too big to fail” - Yes....and work out plans to abolish or change the laws that allowed for the "Citizens United" ruling.

10. Climate change - I favor the eventual elimination of fossil fuels to renewable/green energy.

The problem here is that the clintonian democrats will not change a damn thing.
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Oh if the Dems were in control they would get rid of Citizens United, stop the deregulations of Trump, go ahead and do universal healthcare, slowly raise the min wage to 15 an hour with yearly increases with inflation, and put the breaks on ICE, their arresting everyone and anyone, strengthen the boarder, etc.

That's what you tell yourself?