How the liberal wish list could bite Democrats

[Mac1958]

I've seen on the "news" that Democrats are hanging their hats on health care going into the mid terms. Seems like a smart strategy.

The irony here is that CNN and MSNBC are still just spending all the energy pounding away on Trump and not really covering this issue much.

I've seen very little about health care.
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[rightwinger]

Dems need to stand for something, they can sell the voters on that list

Trump rage will only get you so far

Sure, higher taxes, MS13 at your door (and additional support coming), free rent and a monthly income. Sounds like a winning strategy, good luck.

OH........Nose!!!!!,

MS13 is gunna kill us if we vote for Dems

I’m Skeered

Great....you don't know any better.

Republicans live on fear
Illegal immigrants murdering and raping
Muslim Terrorists
MS-13 killing you in your sleep

Republicans only solution is to stop all immigration

Illegal immigrants murdering and raping - from Democrats
Muslim Terrorists - from Democrats
MS-13 killing you in your sleep - from Democrats

Yeah, run on that.​

Illegal immigrants perform menial labor to feed their families
Muslim Americans are highly educated and hard working
MS-13 mostly kills their own

That is what Republicans want you to fear

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

These editorials, your opinions and especially the opinions from JoeB131 have ZERO merit to any good, sane, real American.
You people fuck yourselves harder and lose credibility each time you stage a pow-wow to discuss spending cuts, tax increases and the high cost of healthcare without mentioning cutting benefits to wetbacks, shutting down the border and eradicating the blood sucking human cockroaches from American soil...Sorry peeps, but until you can start kicking off your “beg for shit” discussions by mentioning wetbacks as a paramount problem good people will just point at you and laugh at your retarded misguided opinions.

Guy, the only bloodsuckers are the One Percent who have half the wealth and begrudge you the pittance you still have. You clowns keep voting to screw yourselves... because you hate the darkies so much.

Nobody “has” half the wealth. They earned half the wealth.


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[BrokeLoser]

These editorials, your opinions and especially the opinions from JoeB131 have ZERO merit to any good, sane, real American.
You people fuck yourselves harder and lose credibility each time you stage a pow-wow to discuss spending cuts, tax increases and the high cost of healthcare without mentioning cutting benefits to wetbacks, shutting down the border and eradicating the blood sucking human cockroaches from American soil...Sorry peeps, but until you can start kicking off your “beg for shit” discussions by mentioning wetbacks as a paramount problem good people will just point at you and laugh at your retarded misguided opinions.

Guy, the only bloodsuckers are the One Percent who have half the wealth and begrudge you the pittance you still have. You clowns keep voting to screw yourselves... because you hate the darkies so much.

Do you ever listen to yourself bud...The 1%’ers, those “bloodsuckers” pay your way...this isn’t an opinion, they pay for your freeloading ass. You can’t spin that shit no matter how hard your desperate ass tries. If you want to be taken serious around here you really need to start making sense.

LefTard Logic:
“That rich asshole only paid my car payment this month, the damn leech should have paid my mortgage as well...fuck him.”

 

[Silhouette]

I fear that single payer will lead to stagnation in the medical research and development fields....

Mark

As opposed to corruption & fraud already present in the “medical research field”?

The universal healthcare system will continue to spawn actual research that actually saves lives instead of freaking people out just to get them hooked on unnecessary or damaging drugs for profit.

 

[Thinker101]

Sure, higher taxes, MS13 at your door (and additional support coming), free rent and a monthly income. Sounds like a winning strategy, good luck.

OH........Nose!!!!!,

MS13 is gunna kill us if we vote for Dems

I’m Skeered

Great....you don't know any better.

Republicans live on fear
Illegal immigrants murdering and raping
Muslim Terrorists
MS-13 killing you in your sleep

Republicans only solution is to stop all immigration

Illegal immigrants murdering and raping - from Democrats
Muslim Terrorists - from Democrats
MS-13 killing you in your sleep - from Democrats

Yeah, run on that.​

Illegal immigrants perform menial labor to feed their families
Muslim Americans are highly educated and hard working
MS-13 mostly kills their own

That is what Republicans want you to fear

No kidding, you really are that stupid.

 

[danielpalos]

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage so Labor can help pay taxes and get the right wing, off their back on that front.

 

[hadit]

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage so Labor can help pay taxes and get the right wing, off their back on that front.

Be honest, you don't want a minimum wage, you want a universal income.

 

[danielpalos]

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage so Labor can help pay taxes and get the right wing, off their back on that front.

Be honest, you don't want a minimum wage, you want a universal income.

Applied capitalism is more market friendly. Compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is a cost effective social safety net.

Why does the Right Wing have a problem with an increase in the Minimum Wage. Good capitalists don't have a problem with it.

 

[Joann Stubbs]

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A Trump-inspired resurgence on the left has even many centrist Democrats embracing an outspokenly liberal wish list as their party hopes to capture one or both chambers of Congress in November. Just don’t count on any of it happening soon.

Even symbolic votes on the growing roster of progressive expectations could create political headaches for Democrats seeking the White House in 2020. That means "Medicare for all," debt-free college and a $15 minimum wage will remain more the subject of liberal aspirations than represent a real shift in the nation's policies.

President Donald Trump is already trying to tar progressive ideas as ballot-box poison, denouncing single-payer health care as Venezuela-style “socialism” (never mind that he endorsed it in 2000) and saying Democrats who want to abolish the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency must have a “death wish.” Democrats may have trouble uniting even on repeal of Trump’s $1.5 trillion tax cut, which received not a single Democratic vote in either chamber when it passed last year. - Source​

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Here are ten issues the article mentions along with my opinions;

1. Single-payer health care - I support universal health care. It's time is overdue

2. $15 minimum wage - Too much, too little, too late. Such a move will force further mechanization, cause permanent lay offs, close businesses and reward people whose work even now is marginal.

3. Abolishing ICE - Stupid idea. Just because tump is abusing it is no reason to eliminate it.

4. Repealing the tax cuts - I can definitely support this.

5. Debt-free college - Yes. Not Free college but loans without all the high interest rates.

6. Net neutrality - 100% support.

7. A $1 trillion infrastructure plan - It's needed, that's for sure. Working out funding will be difficult.

8. Defense cuts - Definitely. Use the savings for infrastructure.

9. Ending “too big to fail” - Yes....and work out plans to abolish or change the laws that allowed for the "Citizens United" ruling.

10. Climate change - I favor the eventual elimination of fossil fuels to renewable/green energy.

The problem here is that the clintonian democrats will not change a damn thing.
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George Soros is the ultimate boogeyman in conservative politics. Campaign managers use his name in political mailers and ads, even at the local level. I know it happens in my city and it’s effective. His name conjures up the worst thoughts towards liberal politics. His open borders brand of socialism is finally being rejected by voters and Trump rode that wave in 2016. Soros, like many Hillary Clinton voters, is having a hard time accepting our new reality. But, unlike another liberal billionaire, Tom Steyer, Soros doesn’t support Trump’s impeachment. He would only support impeachment if Democrats take back Congress and they could get some Republicans to go along with it.

 

[Joann Stubbs]

I'm not convinced at all that we vote based on issues at this point.
For the hardcore partisan ideologues, they're just going to obediently vote for and support the people and issues their tribes endorse.For many others, they will vote for whom they like the best. Personally. Or dislike the least. Yeah, I think that's as deep as it goes. I think there are many voters who wouldn't be able to tell you where their candidates and the opposition stand on many issues.

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I gave up on the democrats in 2010, due to the heavy Clintonian influence. If the democrats want to get anywhere, they are going to have to listen to their grassroots. They are not interested in impeaching tump or Kavanaugh, these are the issues they talk about, health care being number one. However, the old guard like the Clintons and Pelosi's must go first.

I like Tulsi Gabbard and would consider voting for her - Tulsi Gabbard weighing 2020 presidential bid
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Soros, who said he wants to avoid dividing the party, also refused to pick favorites among the emerging crop of 2020 Democratic presidential contenders. But there is one prospective candidate he said he hopes does not get the nod: Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York.

 

[Joann Stubbs]

I'm not convinced at all that we vote based on issues at this point.
For the hardcore partisan ideologues, they're just going to obediently vote for and support the people and issues their tribes endorse.For many others, they will vote for whom they like the best. Personally. Or dislike the least. Yeah, I think that's as deep as it goes. I think there are many voters who wouldn't be able to tell you where their candidates and the opposition stand on many issues.

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I gave up on the democrats in 2010, due to the heavy Clintonian influence. If the democrats want to get anywhere, they are going to have to listen to their grassroots. They are not interested in impeaching tump or Kavanaugh, these are the issues they talk about, health care being number one. However, the old guard like the Clintons and Pelosi's must go first.

I like Tulsi Gabbard and would consider voting for her - Tulsi Gabbard weighing 2020 presidential bid
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Soros, who said he wants to avoid dividing the party, also refused to pick favorites among the emerging crop of 2020 Democratic presidential contenders. But there is one prospective candidate he said he hopes does not get the nod: Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York.

That is if you can buy into what he said.

 

[danielpalos]

let's raise the minimum wage to raise tax revenue.

 

[rightwinger]

These editorials, your opinions and especially the opinions from JoeB131 have ZERO merit to any good, sane, real American.
You people fuck yourselves harder and lose credibility each time you stage a pow-wow to discuss spending cuts, tax increases and the high cost of healthcare without mentioning cutting benefits to wetbacks, shutting down the border and eradicating the blood sucking human cockroaches from American soil...Sorry peeps, but until you can start kicking off your “beg for shit” discussions by mentioning wetbacks as a paramount problem good people will just point at you and laugh at your retarded misguided opinions.

Guy, the only bloodsuckers are the One Percent who have half the wealth and begrudge you the pittance you still have. You clowns keep voting to screw yourselves... because you hate the darkies so much.

Nobody “has” half the wealth. They earned half the wealth.


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Workers create the wealth. The one percent are in charge of the distribution

 

[rightwinger]

OH........Nose!!!!!,

MS13 is gunna kill us if we vote for Dems

I’m Skeered

Great....you don't know any better.

Republicans live on fear
Illegal immigrants murdering and raping
Muslim Terrorists
MS-13 killing you in your sleep

Republicans only solution is to stop all immigration

Illegal immigrants murdering and raping - from Democrats
Muslim Terrorists - from Democrats
MS-13 killing you in your sleep - from Democrats

Yeah, run on that.​

Illegal immigrants perform menial labor to feed their families
Muslim Americans are highly educated and hard working
MS-13 mostly kills their own

That is what Republicans want you to fear

No kidding, you really are that stupid.

I’m not the one shitting the bed over Muslims and MS 13

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Great....you don't know any better.

Republicans live on fear
Illegal immigrants murdering and raping
Muslim Terrorists
MS-13 killing you in your sleep

Republicans only solution is to stop all immigration

Illegal immigrants murdering and raping - from Democrats
Muslim Terrorists - from Democrats
MS-13 killing you in your sleep - from Democrats

Yeah, run on that.​

Illegal immigrants perform menial labor to feed their families
Muslim Americans are highly educated and hard working
MS-13 mostly kills their own

That is what Republicans want you to fear

No kidding, you really are that stupid.

I’m not the one shitting the bed over Muslims and MS 13

Perhaps not, but you are shitting the bed over President Trump and global warming instead.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

These editorials, your opinions and especially the opinions from JoeB131 have ZERO merit to any good, sane, real American.
You people fuck yourselves harder and lose credibility each time you stage a pow-wow to discuss spending cuts, tax increases and the high cost of healthcare without mentioning cutting benefits to wetbacks, shutting down the border and eradicating the blood sucking human cockroaches from American soil...Sorry peeps, but until you can start kicking off your “beg for shit” discussions by mentioning wetbacks as a paramount problem good people will just point at you and laugh at your retarded misguided opinions.

Guy, the only bloodsuckers are the One Percent who have half the wealth and begrudge you the pittance you still have. You clowns keep voting to screw yourselves... because you hate the darkies so much.

Nobody “has” half the wealth. They earned half the wealth.


Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com

Workers create the wealth. The one percent are in charge of the distribution

No, workers do not create wealth. Workers create work. Wealth is created though investment and risk. Nobody ever became wealthy working a blue-collar job.

 

[Sahba]

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage so Labor can help pay taxes and get the right wing, off their back on that front.

invest in a CliffNotes 101 Micro & Macro Economics pamphlet and upon finishing opine again on how creating an artificial & arbitrary wage is (NOT) deleterious to the exact workers that U are trying to 'prop up'. Then hazard a guess on why there have been a drastic reduction of jobs & why only the overly qualified actually have the handful of jobs out there at $15.00

 

[danielpalos]

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage so Labor can help pay taxes and get the right wing, off their back on that front.

invest in a CliffNotes 101 Micro & Macro Economics pamphlet and upon finishing opine again on how creating an artificial & arbitrary wage is (NOT) deleterious to the exact workers that U are trying to 'prop up'. Then hazard a guess on why there have been a drastic reduction of jobs & why only the overly qualified actually have the handful of jobs out there at $15.00

I understand economics. All you are suggesting is that we keep subsidizing Capitalists with low wage jobs so the right wing can whine about the cost of social services.

 

[80zephyr]

I fear that single payer will lead to stagnation in the medical research and development fields....

Mark

As opposed to corruption & fraud already present in the “medical research field”?

The universal healthcare system will continue to spawn actual research that actually saves lives instead of freaking people out just to get them hooked on unnecessary or damaging drugs for profit.

The evidence shows that the US is far and away the leader in medical research. Without the benefits of a huge payday, research will dry up. If our research budget gets cut, I doubt any other country on earth will pick up the slack.

We have to be careful what we wish for.

Mark