How the war started

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Politifact Shoots Down Reich Wing/Pooty Propaganda.

Disinformation claims US-run biolabs in Ukraine

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has brought false claims on social media that Russian President Vladimir Putin is targeting

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There Nre no US-Run Biolabs In Ukraine, Contrary To Social Media Posts​

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has brought false claims on social media that Russian President Vladimir Putin is targeting U.S.-run biological weapons labs in his neighboring country.

False claims from Russia alleging bioweapon use by the U.S. aren’t new, and allegations of a network of such labs along Russia’s border were shared in state-run media in the weeks before the invasion.

A Twitter user by the handle @WarClandestine spread a story on Feb. 24 that Russia was targeting the sites of U.S.-run biolabs when it began invading Ukraine. That account was quickly suspended by Twitter, but others shared the post and began using the hashtag #USbiolabs to spread the false claim.

Our Sources​

Email exchange with Andy Weber, a member of the Arms Control Association Board of Directors and a former assistant secretary of defense for nuclear, chemical, and biological defense programs.

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Department of Defense Defense Threat Reduction Agency, "Fiscal Year (FY) 2021 Budget Estimates Operation and Maintenance, Defense-Wide Cooperative Threat Reduction Program," Feb. 2020

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If so, why are we having hearings on it?

 

[JoeB131]

Oh, yes! Elections purify any crime. After Hitler was elected as a result of democratic elections, all subsequent laws adopted by the Nazis were validated as adopted by the legitimate authorities.

Except not really. Hitler never won a majority.

The thing is, Ukraine's ethnic Russians decided to opt out of Ukrainian politics after the Maidan revolution. Then they whine that they aren't getting their way.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Basically, you're just repeating what you hear from talking heads on the TV.

oh my the Irony,i see you are looking in the mirror,that your glued to the idiot box in the living room and the national newspapers,LA TIMES,ec,ect.

 

[beagle9]

If ya want me to sit thru RT propaganda, I might. But your gonna have to tell me what I'm gonna learn.

As far as the ABC documentary, Ukraine has REAL Russian influence on their elections and political systems. You dont think Putin has just been sitting idle since his LAST Russian stooge was ousted and he took the Crimea do ya?

The opposition leader is STILL in the Ukrainian congress because of the Russian separatist areas to the East. And he IS a genuine STOOGE of Putin -- not like Trump was accused of. Putin is the GODFATHER of one of his kids.

So when ABC tells the story, it seems like tyrannical suppression of democracy. The ONLY DEMOCRATIC institution in Ukraine are the nationalists who DONT WANT TO BE RUSSIAN. So you gotta understand the situation. Putin's not just got a PAW in Ukraine -- he's been farming their political system for decades.

So it's a choice between ACTUAL independence and democracy or allowing Putin to corrupt the INDEPENDENCE and democratic institutions that MOST Ukrainians value. Wasn't working for Putie because Zelensky was more FOCUSED and effective at moving the country further "west"..

This is not like OUR PHONY "Russian election problems".. This is Putin playing for keeps.

Understand the players and prize.

It is exactly why we shouldn't be tempted into injecting ourselves into a civil war between old and new Russian's that have been occupying that territory forever. We can't save the world, and we sure as heck don't need to be playing around in Russia's back yard. What if Russia and China were playing around militarily in close territory that we see as our buffer zones ????? We would be in serious military alertness over such a thing.

 

[Hossfly]

Putin is a murderous KGB thug and is a bad apple.

However, the Ukrainian government with it's puppet Zelensky happen to be the bad guys in this war. Both countries need to rid themselves of their evil leaders.

 

[beagle9]

Putin is a murderous KGB thug and is a bad apple.

However, the Ukrainian government with it's puppet Zelensky happen to be the bad guys in this war. Both countries need to rid themselves of their evil leaders.

And we need to stay out of the affair's of such countries that we don't have an inkling of a cultural domestic identity with ? It's all sovereign territory that if we involve ourselves in, then we end up being the bad guy's just like when the police show up to a domestic dispute between a couple or two drunk friend's threatening to kill each other. One of the most dangerous situation's ever encountered by law men and women on the beat.