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Oh, its pandering now? Lemmie guess, all the other communist/socialist dictatorships were pandering as well? Forget it. Socialism/Communism all eventually end up as dictatorships for the same reasons inherent in their flaws.
Cripes, you are new to this, aren't you?
Yes, political propaganda is pandering. Any political propaganda. You've just made the argument that "here's proof of what they were because they said it about themselves". Hey, what could possibly be more honest than the propaganda put out by an upstart political party looking for popular support? And besides, what would the Nazis know about the art of propaganda anyway?
(You do know what "sarcasm" is I hope?)
Say what you will about Hitler, he accomplished most, if not all, of his program; leading to disaster of course. Not bad for a panderer! The worst thing about the rise of Hitler is that he told us exactly what he was going to do. And the left loved him for it to the point to praising him in the 1930's.
No amount of smilies in the world can give you the artificial self comfort to overcome the inherent truth. That why I love a good smilie icon. They are used for the comfort of the poster in their moments of self doubt. Laughing when you are not, clapping when you are not, and all the rest, are just a means of diplaying an emotion of which is absent of the poster as if those emotions add credence to their argument. Imagine a guy giving you a false laugh while debating you as to shake off the facts. The same applies here.
Yet more LEFT WINGERS!
Cripes, you are new to this, aren't you?
Yes, political propaganda is pandering. Any political propaganda. You've just made the argument that "here's proof of what they were because they said it about themselves". Hey, what could possibly be more honest than the propaganda put out by an upstart political party looking for popular support? And besides, what would the Nazis know about the art of propaganda anyway?
(You do know what "sarcasm" is I hope?)
Say what you will about Hitler, he accomplished most, if not all, of his program; leading to disaster of course. Not bad for a panderer! The worst thing about the rise of Hitler is that he told us exactly what he was going to do. And the left loved him for it to the point to praising him in the 1930's.
No amount of smilies in the world can give you the artificial self comfort to overcome the inherent truth. That why I love a good smilie icon. They are used for the comfort of the poster in their moments of self doubt. Laughing when you are not, clapping when you are not, and all the rest, are just a means of diplaying an emotion of which is absent of the poster as if those emotions add credence to their argument. Imagine a guy giving you a false laugh while debating you as to shake off the facts. The same applies here.
That post isn't about Hitler. It's about your logical failure. I see you'd now like to talk about internet emoticons rather than that logical failure.
All the emoticons do is illustrate how much of a failure it was. You're right, there weren't enough of them.
So.... you're saying... "Esmerelda = Hitler".
Thanks for playing, and be sure to play the Great Gobs of Godwin Game at home. It's a great game; you win when you can prove that everybody is Hitler but yourself.
I think you'll do well.
You got that out of his comments? Wow! I thought you were smarter than that.
OK, let's watch it again in slow motion...
Hitler was an authoritarian opposed to individual liberty.
Obama is an authoritarian opposed to individual liberty.
You are an authoritarian opposed to individual liberty.
"Hitler = Obama = Esmerelda". Hence "Hitler = Esmerelda".
Diga me, what else can you possibly get out of that?? Ain't rocket surgery.
That's not a rhetorical question; I expect an answer, and something more substantive than a gaping disbelief in the absence of an alternative. Or a wanker ad hominem.
Differences in degree do not polar opposites make, numbnutz.Yet more LEFT WINGERS!
You idiots have clearly allowed some maniac to write on your small blank slates one of the stupidest memes ever invented and there is no more room left.
My time is valuable. Spending any more of it on morons is like giving you free money.
Is that supposed to be a concession speech?
ROFL
I shouldn't laugh at retards, but dude, you're so fucking funny...
Well let's see... Papageorgio at least figured out how to turn tail and run when confronted to cut his losses. You on the other hand doubled down on your own fallacious logic with the "urine" thing.
You tell me which one is more funny, in a pathos-riddled way...
More LEFT WINGERS!!!
Take it, kids!
-- just to fuck with the simpletons' minds. Let 'em chew on that a while
-- just to fuck with the simpletons' minds. Let 'em chew on that a while
Wow. You have your blinders on really, really tight, eh?
You seriously believe a redneck confederate Nazi is a left winger?
Folks, I'm afraid we are looking at genuine mental retardation here.
Cripes, you are new to this, aren't you?
Yes, political propaganda is pandering. Any political propaganda. You've just made the argument that "here's proof of what they were because they said it about themselves". Hey, what could possibly be more honest than the propaganda put out by an upstart political party looking for popular support? And besides, what would the Nazis know about the art of propaganda anyway?
(You do know what "sarcasm" is I hope?)
Poster comparisons? That's all you have?
You fools seem to think it is impossible for their to be right wing totalitarianism. What a bunch of maroons!
My challenge is serious. Spend time on Stormfront. Engage the Nazis in conversation. See how long your idiocy persists.
They will be happy to explain the errors of your ways. And they will be happy to explain what national socialism actually is.
Then tell them that they remind you of Dianne Feinstein. That would be SO priceless!
More LEFT WINGERS!!!
Say what you will about Hitler, he accomplished most, if not all, of his program; leading to disaster of course. Not bad for a panderer! The worst thing about the rise of Hitler is that he told us exactly what he was going to do. And the left loved him for it to the point to praising him in the 1930's.
No amount of smilies in the world can give you the artificial self comfort to overcome the inherent truth. That why I love a good smilie icon. They are used for the comfort of the poster in their moments of self doubt. Laughing when you are not, clapping when you are not, and all the rest, are just a means of diplaying an emotion of which is absent of the poster as if those emotions add credence to their argument. Imagine a guy giving you a false laugh while debating you as to shake off the facts. The same applies here.
That post isn't about Hitler. It's about your logical failure. I see you'd now like to talk about internet emoticons rather than that logical failure.
All the emoticons do is illustrate how much of a failure it was. You're right, there weren't enough of them.
I see you haven't distinguished between contradiction and argument yet. Simply saying that it isnt so, or, that it is something else is not an argument. My emoticon assessment is, and will always be, spot on. This video should help.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y]Argument Clinic - YouTube[/ame]
You got that out of his comments? Wow! I thought you were smarter than that.
OK, let's watch it again in slow motion...
Hitler was an authoritarian opposed to individual liberty.
Obama is an authoritarian opposed to individual liberty.
You are an authoritarian opposed to individual liberty.
"Hitler = Obama = Esmerelda". Hence "Hitler = Esmerelda".
Diga me, what else can you possibly get out of that?? Ain't rocket surgery.
That's not a rhetorical question; I expect an answer, and something more substantive than a gaping disbelief in the absence of an alternative. Or a wanker ad hominem.
They all have differing degrees, unless you are a moronic absolutist. As you say it isn't rocket science. So spare me your moronic stupidity.
Expect an answer? Lol! The only reason to answer you is to expose your illogical deductions.
Cripes, you are new to this, aren't you?
Yes, political propaganda is pandering. Any political propaganda. You've just made the argument that "here's proof of what they were because they said it about themselves". Hey, what could possibly be more honest than the propaganda put out by an upstart political party looking for popular support? And besides, what would the Nazis know about the art of propaganda anyway?
(You do know what "sarcasm" is I hope?)
According to that theory we can call Lenin a capitalist because all his talk about socialism was just propaganda, wasn't it?
That post isn't about Hitler. It's about your logical failure. I see you'd now like to talk about internet emoticons rather than that logical failure.
All the emoticons do is illustrate how much of a failure it was. You're right, there weren't enough of them.
I see you haven't distinguished between contradiction and argument yet. Simply saying that it isn’t so, or, that it is something else is not an argument. My emoticon assessment is, and will always be, spot on. This video should help.
Oh please. You wanna quote Monty Python to me of all people? What a rookie.
No rookie, posting a Monty Python video neither makes nor refutes an argument. What I did, I'll explain yet again, was to point out that what you're using as a basis is a bullshit propaganda piece put out by an organization that specialized in bullshit propaganda. It has no more value as a basis of argument than pointing at the word "socialist" in the name of the NSDAP. Even less actually. You're asking us to believe what the Nazis used to sell themselves is gospel truth. God only knows what that means we should believe about, say, Jews.
In short, your basis is utter worthless bullshit. I don't know how I can reduce it to anything simpler.
See, the problem with this entire thread is that many of you people seem to be under the impression that there have been only two philosophies in the entire history of the planet.
Everything to some of you folks MUST be assigned to either left or right.
Nazi's were FASCISTS. They weren't "Leftists" and they weren't "Rightists", they were Authoritarians.
They didn't just want control over the means of production like left-wingers, or just control over morality, like right-wingers. They didn't want to spread the wealth evenly like communists.
They wanted control over EVERYTHING.
Who do you think you're fooling?
Cripes, you are new to this, aren't you?
Yes, political propaganda is pandering. Any political propaganda. You've just made the argument that "here's proof of what they were because they said it about themselves". Hey, what could possibly be more honest than the propaganda put out by an upstart political party looking for popular support? And besides, what would the Nazis know about the art of propaganda anyway?
(You do know what "sarcasm" is I hope?)
According to that theory we can call Lenin a capitalist because all his talk about socialism was just propaganda, wasn't it?
So you're saying -- what? That Nazi propaganda is plausible enough to hang your hat on?
Okay...
See, the problem with this entire thread is that many of you people seem to be under the impression that there have been only two philosophies in the entire history of the planet.
Everything to some of you folks MUST be assigned to either left or right.
Nazi's were FASCISTS. They weren't "Leftists" and they weren't "Rightists", they were Authoritarians.
They didn't just want control over the means of production like left-wingers, or just control over morality, like right-wingers. They didn't want to spread the wealth evenly like communists.
They wanted control over EVERYTHING.
Yep, the dichotomy-labelers. Not only must everything be assigned to a red or blue team, but those teams have been exactly the same throughout all of history, which means in their minds a Democrat of the South of a hundred years ago is exactly the same thing as Barack Obama, while David Duke is exactly the same thing as Abraham Lincoln.
Because obviously if you're so narrowminded that the world can be conveniently divided into black and white, then that black and white has always been exactly the same black and white as it is now.
