How will this year rank globally?

[ScienceRocks]

How will this year rank globally? I'll say third as the second half of the year appears to be a good amount cooler then the first part.

My reasoning was 2015 had a very strong nino with a giss final temp of .87c for the year. We're about to lose our second place and I can't see how we can get it back.

.75 for 2014 should be more then beatable...I'll say .82c for the final for 2017.

https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt

 

[flacaltenn]

Does ONE year matter? The July Satellite result is available from UAH. Anomalies last 2 months are back into the range of The Pause. 0.21degC June, 0.28degC July.. Here''s the part that REALLY REALLY matters.

From Dr. Roy's site

The linear temperature trend of the global average lower tropospheric temperature anomalies from January 1979 through July 2017 is now +0.13 C/decade.

That's a real snooze if this is the apocalyptic end of the planet --- isn't it? ENTIRE SAT history is 1.3degC/Century.. So much wasted "Environmentalism".. We should get BACK to making the planet cleaner and preserving life..

 

[Kosh]

Let us put it all in perspective:

 

[ScienceRocks]

Does ONE year matter? The July Satellite result is available from UAH. Anomalies last 2 months are back into the range of The Pause. 0.21degC June, 0.28degC July.. Here''s the part that REALLY REALLY matters.

From Dr. Roy's site

The linear temperature trend of the global average lower tropospheric temperature anomalies from January 1979 through July 2017 is now +0.13 C/decade.

That's a real snooze if this is the apocalyptic end of the planet --- isn't it? ENTIRE SAT history is 1.3degC/Century.. So much wasted "Environmentalism".. We should get BACK to making the planet cleaner and preserving life..

This is why I believe we'll see about another 1c by 2100! Now this if you believe in mann or Hansen would be the warmest temperatures in 125 thousand years. So we have some serious sea level change in the tap.

 

[Old Rocks]

Dumb fuck, that is totally silly. Humans, Homo Sap, have only been around for a bit over 200,000 years. And the temperature you graph predicts for 2100 is about the same as that of about 15 million years ago. There were no ice caps at either pole at that time. You find that just fine?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Let us put it all in perspective:

We had no ice on the planet 40 million years ago and sea level raised by hundreds of feet. This isn't something we should wish for.

 

[Old Rocks]

Does ONE year matter? The July Satellite result is available from UAH. Anomalies last 2 months are back into the range of The Pause. 0.21degC June, 0.28degC July.. Here''s the part that REALLY REALLY matters.

From Dr. Roy's site

The linear temperature trend of the global average lower tropospheric temperature anomalies from January 1979 through July 2017 is now +0.13 C/decade.

That's a real snooze if this is the apocalyptic end of the planet --- isn't it? ENTIRE SAT history is 1.3degC/Century.. So much wasted "Environmentalism".. We should get BACK to making the planet cleaner and preserving life..

This is why I believe we'll see about another 1c by 2100! Now this if you believe in mann or Hansen would be the warmest temperatures in 125 thousand years. So we have some serious sea level change in the tap.

I wish I could be that optimistic. I think that we will see from 2 C to 4 C by 2100.

 

[Old Rocks]

http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_July_2017_v6.jpg

From Dr. Roy Spencer. And we are in a neutral ENSO.

 

[ScienceRocks]

http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_July_2017_v6.jpg

From Dr. Roy Spencer. And we are in a neutral ENSO.

Would the black line I placed on this chart be a good estimate of the rate of warming.

 

[Kat]

How about a total eclipse??

 

[ScienceRocks]

How about a total eclipse??

The eclipse later this month? That will have no effect on the global temperature as it will only effect a very small area and for a very short time.

 

[Chuz Life]

How will this year rank globally? I'll say third as the second half of the year appears to be a good amount cooler then the first part.

My reasoning was 2015 had a very strong nino with a giss final temp of .87c for the year. We're about to lose our second place and I can't see how we can get it back.

.75 for 2014 should be more then beatable...I'll say .82c for the final for 2017.

https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt

THEN?

 

[Kat]

How about a total eclipse??

The eclipse later this month? That will have no effect on the global temperature as it will only effect a very small area and for a very short time.

Yeah, I know. It's on the 21st. I always find it interesting though. I am sorry, I did not mean to hijack your thread.

 

[Kosh]

Let us put it all in perspective:

We had no ice on the planet 40 million years ago and sea level raised by hundreds of feet. This isn't something we should wish for.

Yes perspective is a foreign concept to those peddling a religion and not real science..

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Yes perspective is a foreign concept to those peddling a religion and not real science..

Leaked government document 'directly contradicts' Trump on climate change
AUG. 7, 2017
WASHINGTON — The average temperature in the United States has risen rapidly and drastically since 1980, and recent decades have been the warmest of the past 1,500 years, according to a sweeping federal climate change report awaiting approval by the Trump administration.

The draft report by scientists from 13 federal agencies, which has not yet been made public, concludes that Americans are feeling the effects of climate change right now. It directly contradicts claims by President Trump and members of his cabinet who say that the human contribution to climate change is uncertain, and that the ability to predict the effects is limited.

“Evidence for a changing climate abounds, from the top of the atmosphere to the depths of the oceans,” a draft of the report states. A copy of it was obtained by The New York Times.

Government Report Finds Drastic Impact of Climate Change on U.S.

Read the Draft of the Climate Change Report

 

[flacaltenn]

Does ONE year matter? The July Satellite result is available from UAH. Anomalies last 2 months are back into the range of The Pause. 0.21degC June, 0.28degC July.. Here''s the part that REALLY REALLY matters.

From Dr. Roy's site

The linear temperature trend of the global average lower tropospheric temperature anomalies from January 1979 through July 2017 is now +0.13 C/decade.

That's a real snooze if this is the apocalyptic end of the planet --- isn't it? ENTIRE SAT history is 1.3degC/Century.. So much wasted "Environmentalism".. We should get BACK to making the planet cleaner and preserving life..

This is why I believe we'll see about another 1c by 2100! Now this if you believe in mann or Hansen would be the warmest temperatures in 125 thousand years. So we have some serious sea level change in the tap.

If the Earth is literally destroy itself because of an AVERAGE ANNUAL change of 1degC by 2100, we bought a Junker of a Planet to live on. And 1DEG is NOTHING like the original predictions of 6 or 8degC by 2100 that Hansen was scaring folks with in the 1980s. So why would I care if Hansen wants to lie and misrepresent what all those historical proxy tree thermometers can REALLY tell us about the natural range of Temperature variability on Earth?

 

[Weatherman2020]

The only thing consistent in the universe is change.

So embrace it.

Only the unscientific spewers of twaddle preach today's climate is optimum.

 

[flacaltenn]

http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_July_2017_v6.jpg

From Dr. Roy Spencer. And we are in a neutral ENSO.

Would the black line I placed on this chart be a good estimate of the rate of warming.
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UAH HAS a version with a trend line that GIVES the numerically proper 0.13degC/decade. If you WANTED to waste time over that --- Go plot the data that UAH gives you in Excel and have EXCEL calculate the trendline. It will be 0.13degC/decade.

EDITED --- I THINK --- that MIGHT BE the UAH trendline. And if so -- it's about 0.13degC/decade.

 

[flacaltenn]

How about a total eclipse??

Got to be related somehow to the 1deg change in average temperature. Watch this forum. There will be an article from somewhere whining about how GW caused the clouds to obscure the Total Eclipse --- or something.

 

[flacaltenn]

How about a total eclipse??

The eclipse later this month? That will have no effect on the global temperature as it will only effect a very small area and for a very short time.

For a MONTHLY average -- that shadow IS very close to being measured in the 0.05degC range. Depends on when Time of Day is taken from the instruments. But just that one day change in Solar irradiation will probably show up in the second digit to the right of the decimal for the month..