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I never said you did.I never once said that the same does not apply to you.The same applies to me......if you and your ilk don't like when I trample your gibberish, that is your problem. But, thankfully, the Constitution is on our side (my ilk)....all you have are a bunch of dowdy old white men trying to make archaic rules that concern women and go against their wishes and a bunch of moronic women going along with them.To me, the Lord is who will have the final word no matter what "laws" are passed down here.
No, murder is wrong. Killing is allowed if justified, and God allowed killing. Moses killed a person and was not held accountable. David killed a person and was not held accountable. When men go to war, they kill and they're not held accountable. Only the woman and God knows if her reasons are justified, you don't. And, since the fetus is not a "person" - there is no person being killed.Abortion is a form of killing and since the Lord's word says that killing is wrong, that makes abortion wrong no matter how y'all try to white wash it.
To me, if a person's religious beliefs are not going to be respected, people shouldn't expect any respect out of that person in return.I am so not surprised that a religious fanatic won't perform her job due to 'religious' reasons. She needs to be reassigned or fired, because she cannot stay in the job she was hired to do, but refuses to perform. She can thumb her nose, but she can also do it to her own peril, & she will deserve her 'termination'. Let her God pay her bills.
To me, the Lord is who will have the final word no matter what "laws" are passed down here.
A lot you know about the Lord. God spoke to the Israelites, gave Moses the ten Commandments and never mentioned that abortion was a no-no, especially in the first trimester. Jews (Israelites) don't consider a fetus a person until they are born....seems to me that God would have told them not so, if he wanted the fetus to be considered a person. And, yes, God will have the last word and will probably wonder or ask you who gave you and your ilk authority to make rules he didn't ask you all to.
When a women gets pregnant, it's no longer just "her" body. If a woman does not want to have a baby, there are solutions other than getting an abortion. But that would require taking some responsibility.
Not always. Just because the girl give up the child to the state does not mean the child can be adopted.
Just giving birth and give the child away does not mean the victim or the child cannot still be held hostage.
There are ALWAYS alternatives to abortion. Stop making excuses.
Yeah....that don't involve carrying it to term and delivering? In what planet do you live?
Where did I suggest it didn't involve carrying the baby to term and delivering? I live on a planet that is infested with stupid people like you.
You're the stupid one. You say there are alternatives to abortion........if the woman doesn't want to be pregnant, there really are no alternatives, idiot.
Sad situation when a person feels that killing an innocent life is the answer.
Can you imagine that the girl in Paraguay might in ten years from now be face to face with her rapist demanding his rights to the child or being forced to marry him and share a life with her rapist?
I don't know paraguay law, but in the US it could happen. You really think a victim should be faced with that in her future? No way to get her rapist out of her life?
It is one thing to be a rape victim of some random attack and another to know your rapist. A child raped for months or years having to be anywhere near the rapist ever again? To see the rapist in the face of the child? To be forced to share custody even while he is in jail? To be obligated by the court to take the child to see the rapist?
OMG! A swear the intelligence and the knowledge about women who have been victims of rape is next to nil, at least it seem that way judging by some of the posters.
No victim of rape wants to be reminded over and over of the rape. A girl or woman has be free to heal and move beyond and pick up the pieces of her life. Not nine month later or nineteen years later. The idea of being connected to the rapist is disgusting. I would have run in front of a bus. To meet him again, even the chance, to awaken the horrors all over again and be terrified and traumatized like it was just yesterday. That is insane.
Anyone that thinks a rape victim can wait nine month and just get beyond the rape is down right bonkers.
No rape victim should have to give birth and legally she is given the option of an abortion. No woman should ever have to live through a rape and she certainly should not have to be reminded over and over of what she experienced.
Most rape is by a man she or the family knows not some stranger. I'd shoot the man if I could and plead insanity. The though of seeing the man again would send chills down my spine. In some case where the girl might know the person, not report it and chance to meet the man in a social setting and not able to scream or attack him? In some places there is statute of limitation to report or charge the man.
The details and ifs and ors of every case should not be hashed out. This is not a law class.
No one should take the access of abortions away from the woman.
Yea I see that happening. SMH
You clearly must have been raped before and felt compelled to kill the baby.
If you are a man, you have no right to even be giving your damn opinion. When you are able to get pregnant then you can insert your 2 cents.
If you were a man, you'd still act like a little girl.
And you'd still be a moron.
^^^ I don't believe that abortion is justified when being pregnant at all is never once meant to be a threat on those who are pregnant. If a rapist wanted to get rid of their victim, a baby would be so far down their list of murder weapons that they would never get to it.
To me, if a person's religious beliefs are not going to be respected, people shouldn't expect any respect out of that person in return.I am so not surprised that a religious fanatic won't perform her job due to 'religious' reasons. She needs to be reassigned or fired, because she cannot stay in the job she was hired to do, but refuses to perform. She can thumb her nose, but she can also do it to her own peril, & she will deserve her 'termination'. Let her God pay her bills.
God bless you always!!!
Holly
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To me, the Lord is who will have the final word no matter what "laws" are passed down here.
Well I don't believe that it is up to you what happens to her. That is reality.She needs to go. She obviously doesn't respect the Constitution which in a government job, towers above personal religious belief. That's reality.^^^ I don't believe that abortion is justified when being pregnant at all is never once meant to be a threat on those who are pregnant. If a rapist wanted to get rid of their victim, a baby would be so far down their list of murder weapons that they would never get to it.
To me, if a person's religious beliefs are not going to be respected, people shouldn't expect any respect out of that person in return.I am so not surprised that a religious fanatic won't perform her job due to 'religious' reasons. She needs to be reassigned or fired, because she cannot stay in the job she was hired to do, but refuses to perform. She can thumb her nose, but she can also do it to her own peril, & she will deserve her 'termination'. Let her God pay her bills.
God bless you always!!!
Holly
Do having a vagina is all you need to freely kill innocent defenseless babies?Sure there are. And the pregnant woman gets to decide which one she wants.When a women gets pregnant, it's no longer just "her" body. If a woman does not want to have a baby, there are solutions other than getting an abortion. But that would require taking some responsibility.
Not always. Just because the girl give up the child to the state does not mean the child can be adopted.
Just giving birth and give the child away does not mean the victim or the child cannot still be held hostage.
There are ALWAYS alternatives to abortion. Stop making excuses.
Why only women? They didn't get pregnant by themselves.
Because there can only be one final decision. The one with the uterus.
^^^ If homosexuals didn't force their lifestyles down the throats of everyone else, they wouldn't have to worry so much about the same thing being done to them by other people and their beliefs. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Well I don't believe that it is up to you what happens to her. That is reality.She needs to go. She obviously doesn't respect the Constitution which in a government job, towers above personal religious belief. That's reality.^^^ I don't believe that abortion is justified when being pregnant at all is never once meant to be a threat on those who are pregnant. If a rapist wanted to get rid of their victim, a baby would be so far down their list of murder weapons that they would never get to it.
To me, if a person's religious beliefs are not going to be respected, people shouldn't expect any respect out of that person in return.I am so not surprised that a religious fanatic won't perform her job due to 'religious' reasons. She needs to be reassigned or fired, because she cannot stay in the job she was hired to do, but refuses to perform. She can thumb her nose, but she can also do it to her own peril, & she will deserve her 'termination'. Let her God pay her bills.
God bless you always!!!
Holly
God bless you two and the woman always!!!
Holly
Do having a vagina is all you need to freely kill innocent defenseless babies?
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I never said you did.I never once said that the same does not apply to you.The same applies to me......if you and your ilk don't like when I trample your gibberish, that is your problem. But, thankfully, the Constitution is on our side (my ilk)....all you have are a bunch of dowdy old white men trying to make archaic rules that concern women and go against their wishes and a bunch of moronic women going along with them.To me, the Lord is who will have the final word no matter what "laws" are passed down here.
No, murder is wrong. Killing is allowed if justified, and God allowed killing. Moses killed a person and was not held accountable. David killed a person and was not held accountable. When men go to war, they kill and they're not held accountable. Only the woman and God knows if her reasons are justified, you don't. And, since the fetus is not a "person" - there is no person being killed.Abortion is a form of killing and since the Lord's word says that killing is wrong, that makes abortion wrong no matter how y'all try to white wash it.
Oh well. There is nothing that you can say to me that will make me change where it is that I stand on this issue.Ah, so you are a homophobe too. Gays aren't doing anything except wanting the same rights as anybody else... it's called equal protection under the law. People like you thought marriage between races was unGodly too. That bitch in Kentucky, has no idea if a hetero couple coming in for a marriage license has been divorced before- which is suppose to be against strict Christian belief, but that's A-OK, because well their naughty parts are polar opposites. Please, what hypocrisy. And no, it's not up to me... but it is up to the judge & she will not go unscathed.^^^ If homosexuals didn't force their lifestyles down the throats of everyone else, they wouldn't have to worry so much about the same thing being done to them by other people and their beliefs. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Well I don't believe that it is up to you what happens to her. That is reality.She needs to go. She obviously doesn't respect the Constitution which in a government job, towers above personal religious belief. That's reality.^^^ I don't believe that abortion is justified when being pregnant at all is never once meant to be a threat on those who are pregnant. If a rapist wanted to get rid of their victim, a baby would be so far down their list of murder weapons that they would never get to it.
To me, if a person's religious beliefs are not going to be respected, people shouldn't expect any respect out of that person in return.I am so not surprised that a religious fanatic won't perform her job due to 'religious' reasons. She needs to be reassigned or fired, because she cannot stay in the job she was hired to do, but refuses to perform. She can thumb her nose, but she can also do it to her own peril, & she will deserve her 'termination'. Let her God pay her bills.
God bless you always!!!
Holly
God bless you two and the woman always!!!
Holly
If she had not had a c-section a few weeks before term they both would have died. She was too small to give birth naturally.
Two lives would have been lost instead of just the fetus with an abortion, and the girl would still have had her childhood and time to grow to womanhood before having children.
Now there is a child raising a child, without the support of parents.
Where is the logic?
The logic is there are too many "if's".
The mother nor the baby died.
Are you certain that no one is there to help the take care of the newborn?
It's amazing the lengths one goes to, to justify the taking of an innocent life.
Step father is in jail and now that she has given birth, so is her mother.
>>Erika Guevara, Americas director at Amnesty International, said in a statement that Mainumby was “lucky to be alive”, adding that “only time will tell the true extent of the physical and psychological consequences of her tragic ordeal”.
“The fact that Mainumby did not die does not excuse the human rights violations she suffered at the hands of the Paraguayan authorities, who decided to gamble with her health, life and integrity despite overwhelming evidence that this pregnancy was extremely risky,” she said.<<
Now the girls lawyer wants to place both girls back into the care of the mother who let the girl be abused by the step-father.
600 girls under the age of 14 give birth each year in Paraguay. How is this moral?
Human rights organization, including UN, officials spoke out for the right of the girl to have an abortion.
There was nothing good that came from this. So many lives in turmoil just to deny a child her childhood after being raped.
No rape victim should be denied the option of an abortion. No child not conceived in love should be forced on a woman/girl.
Sad situation when a person feels that killing an innocent life is the answer.
Can you imagine that the girl in Paraguay might in ten years from now be face to face with her rapist demanding his rights to the child or being forced to marry him and share a life with her rapist?
I don't know paraguay law, but in the US it could happen. You really think a victim should be faced with that in her future? No way to get her rapist out of her life?
It is one thing to be a rape victim of some random attack and another to know your rapist. A child raped for months or years having to be anywhere near the rapist ever again? To see the rapist in the face of the child? To be forced to share custody even while he is in jail? To be obligated by the court to take the child to see the rapist?
OMG! A swear the intelligence and the knowledge about women who have been victims of rape is next to nil, at least it seem that way judging by some of the posters.
No victim of rape wants to be reminded over and over of the rape. A girl or woman has be free to heal and move beyond and pick up the pieces of her life. Not nine month later or nineteen years later. The idea of being connected to the rapist is disgusting. I would have run in front of a bus. To meet him again, even the chance, to awaken the horrors all over again and be terrified and traumatized like it was just yesterday. That is insane.
Anyone that thinks a rape victim can wait nine month and just get beyond the rape is down right bonkers.
No rape victim should have to give birth and legally she is given the option of an abortion. No woman should ever have to live through a rape and she certainly should not have to be reminded over and over of what she experienced.
Most rape is by a man she or the family knows not some stranger. I'd shoot the man if I could and plead insanity. The though of seeing the man again would send chills down my spine. In some case where the girl might know the person, not report it and chance to meet the man in a social setting and not able to scream or attack him? In some places there is statute of limitation to report or charge the man.
The details and ifs and ors of every case should not be hashed out. This is not a law class.
No one should take the access of abortions away from the woman.
Yea I see that happening. SMH
You clearly must have been raped before and felt compelled to kill the baby.
Only God can forgive an abortion.I never said you did.I never once said that the same does not apply to you.The same applies to me......if you and your ilk don't like when I trample your gibberish, that is your problem. But, thankfully, the Constitution is on our side (my ilk)....all you have are a bunch of dowdy old white men trying to make archaic rules that concern women and go against their wishes and a bunch of moronic women going along with them.To me, the Lord is who will have the final word no matter what "laws" are passed down here.
No, murder is wrong. Killing is allowed if justified, and God allowed killing. Moses killed a person and was not held accountable. David killed a person and was not held accountable. When men go to war, they kill and they're not held accountable. Only the woman and God knows if her reasons are justified, you don't. And, since the fetus is not a "person" - there is no person being killed.Abortion is a form of killing and since the Lord's word says that killing is wrong, that makes abortion wrong no matter how y'all try to white wash it.
.............and the pope forgives abortions
Only God can forgive an abortion.I never said you did.I never once said that the same does not apply to you.The same applies to me......if you and your ilk don't like when I trample your gibberish, that is your problem. But, thankfully, the Constitution is on our side (my ilk)....all you have are a bunch of dowdy old white men trying to make archaic rules that concern women and go against their wishes and a bunch of moronic women going along with them.To me, the Lord is who will have the final word no matter what "laws" are passed down here.
No, murder is wrong. Killing is allowed if justified, and God allowed killing. Moses killed a person and was not held accountable. David killed a person and was not held accountable. When men go to war, they kill and they're not held accountable. Only the woman and God knows if her reasons are justified, you don't. And, since the fetus is not a "person" - there is no person being killed.Abortion is a form of killing and since the Lord's word says that killing is wrong, that makes abortion wrong no matter how y'all try to white wash it.
.............and the pope forgives abortions
Because it's their body.Sure there are. And the pregnant woman gets to decide which one she wants.We decided that being together was better than one raising our children alone. I lost one early and nearly died from our second. As much as I love my children, I would have chosen life and adoption.
Our instructions were made clear to my doctors and family.
We each did what we feel is best, not because someone forced us to. We had that choice. Why should anyone take that from other women or victims of rape?
They have the right to choose, just as you and your wife did.
Each woman has to make the decision that is best for her, not because others force her one way or the other.
When a women gets pregnant, it's no longer just "her" body. If a woman does not want to have a baby, there are solutions other than getting an abortion. But that would require taking some responsibility.
Not always. Just because the girl give up the child to the state does not mean the child can be adopted.
Just giving birth and give the child away does not mean the victim or the child cannot still be held hostage.
There are ALWAYS alternatives to abortion. Stop making excuses.
Why only women? They didn't get pregnant by themselves.
Both men and women know what choices are available to them before they ever have sex.Step father is in jail and now that she has given birth, so is her mother.
>>Erika Guevara, Americas director at Amnesty International, said in a statement that Mainumby was “lucky to be alive”, adding that “only time will tell the true extent of the physical and psychological consequences of her tragic ordeal”.
“The fact that Mainumby did not die does not excuse the human rights violations she suffered at the hands of the Paraguayan authorities, who decided to gamble with her health, life and integrity despite overwhelming evidence that this pregnancy was extremely risky,” she said.<<
Now the girls lawyer wants to place both girls back into the care of the mother who let the girl be abused by the step-father.
600 girls under the age of 14 give birth each year in Paraguay. How is this moral?
Human rights organization, including UN, officials spoke out for the right of the girl to have an abortion.
There was nothing good that came from this. So many lives in turmoil just to deny a child her childhood after being raped.
No rape victim should be denied the option of an abortion. No child not conceived in love should be forced on a woman/girl.
Sad situation when a person feels that killing an innocent life is the answer.
Can you imagine that the girl in Paraguay might in ten years from now be face to face with her rapist demanding his rights to the child or being forced to marry him and share a life with her rapist?
I don't know paraguay law, but in the US it could happen. You really think a victim should be faced with that in her future? No way to get her rapist out of her life?
It is one thing to be a rape victim of some random attack and another to know your rapist. A child raped for months or years having to be anywhere near the rapist ever again? To see the rapist in the face of the child? To be forced to share custody even while he is in jail? To be obligated by the court to take the child to see the rapist?
OMG! A swear the intelligence and the knowledge about women who have been victims of rape is next to nil, at least it seem that way judging by some of the posters.
No victim of rape wants to be reminded over and over of the rape. A girl or woman has be free to heal and move beyond and pick up the pieces of her life. Not nine month later or nineteen years later. The idea of being connected to the rapist is disgusting. I would have run in front of a bus. To meet him again, even the chance, to awaken the horrors all over again and be terrified and traumatized like it was just yesterday. That is insane.
Anyone that thinks a rape victim can wait nine month and just get beyond the rape is down right bonkers.
No rape victim should have to give birth and legally she is given the option of an abortion. No woman should ever have to live through a rape and she certainly should not have to be reminded over and over of what she experienced.
Most rape is by a man she or the family knows not some stranger. I'd shoot the man if I could and plead insanity. The though of seeing the man again would send chills down my spine. In some case where the girl might know the person, not report it and chance to meet the man in a social setting and not able to scream or attack him? In some places there is statute of limitation to report or charge the man.
The details and ifs and ors of every case should not be hashed out. This is not a law class.
No one should take the access of abortions away from the woman.
Yea I see that happening. SMH
You clearly must have been raped before and felt compelled to kill the baby.
If you are a man, you have no right to even be giving your damn opinion. When you are able to get pregnant then you can insert your 2 cents.
Women don't get pregnant by themselves you moron.
If a women decides to have the baby, guess who gets to pay for the child whether he wants to or not, Where is his choice?
WTF?? When did homosexuals force you to be gay?^^^ If homosexuals didn't force their lifestyles down the throats of everyone else, they wouldn't have to worry so much about the same thing being done to them by other people and their beliefs. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Well I don't believe that it is up to you what happens to her. That is reality.She needs to go. She obviously doesn't respect the Constitution which in a government job, towers above personal religious belief. That's reality.^^^ I don't believe that abortion is justified when being pregnant at all is never once meant to be a threat on those who are pregnant. If a rapist wanted to get rid of their victim, a baby would be so far down their list of murder weapons that they would never get to it.
To me, if a person's religious beliefs are not going to be respected, people shouldn't expect any respect out of that person in return.I am so not surprised that a religious fanatic won't perform her job due to 'religious' reasons. She needs to be reassigned or fired, because she cannot stay in the job she was hired to do, but refuses to perform. She can thumb her nose, but she can also do it to her own peril, & she will deserve her 'termination'. Let her God pay her bills.
God bless you always!!!
Holly
God bless you two and the woman always!!!
Holly
