Hunger Strikes Escalate 12 Detainees On Hunger Strike

[irosie91]

People who screamed "MURDER" should be jailed for
incitement

The PA Autopsy concludes he was tortured to death.

try again----the PA report stood by as an observer and noted
"BRUISING" I will help you out here-----a "bruise" is nothing
more than a collection of blood it can be noted on the surface
of the body when it exists ----in the subcutaneum Since
the terrorist pig was found DEAD in his cell-----he could simply have
POOLING of blood under the skin in dependent parts of his body--
In a RESUSCITION an AIRWAY must be established ---by
"INTUBATION" that involves shoving a metal contraption into
the mouth and YANKING things apart inorder to insert a tube------
a secondary method if AIRWAY THRU THE NOSE----often both
are attempted in the course of the procedure I LOST A TOOTH
that way----it happens. bruising and bleeding is very commonly
associated with these procedures chest compression can cause
rib fracture -----the idiot doctor who claims "torture" did not even
describe the KINDS of fractures of the neck bones---so I cannot comment
cervicle spine fractures are DESCRIBED by real docs as to anatomy---
which is the CLUE to the etiology. SOME are actually fatal (if they
cause compression of the brain stem or cord)-----some are trivial

furthermore----the diagnosis of your idiot does not exist
----the man did not DIE OF BRUISING or fractured ribs

He did not describe FATAL INJURIES He made up
a diagnosis "he got nervous during torture so dropped dead"
LOL he should re read his pathology text book

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Excerpts From Preliminary Autopsy Report of Arafat Jaradat

"Injuries
 Presence of excoriation (when part of the skin is removed) with recent bruising on the lower lip
 Presence of strong and excessive bruising on the upper right of the back
 Presence of circular bruises on bottom left of the breast on the front side of the chest
 Presence of bruise on the left elbow, back of the arm
 Presence of bruise mid-backside of the right upper arm
 Presence of bruises 9X4 cm on the top of the left shoulder. The bruises are under the skin inside the muscle and along the spine at the bottom of the neck deep inside the tissue.
 Presence of bruises 10x4 cm on the right side of the chest under the skin inside the muscles 27cm away from the middle line of the back and 53cm from the top of the head
 Presence of fracture in the second and third ribs on the front left side of the chest with the presence of fresh bruises around the fracture.
 Presence of a fracture in the second rib on the front right side of the chest.
o All bruises (injuries) are very recent and strong resulting from direct intensive torture"


"Results
 Corpse is male, 33 years old. The corpse had good muscle structure during life.
 The autopsy showed that the heart is perfectly sound and free of signs of clots (heart attacks) It showed the presence of several injuries described above and all of them are recent and fresh, resulting from extensive direct torture. As shown through the undigested contents of the
[Disclaimer: This is an unofficial translation by Addameer and Al Haq and provided for
reference only]
stomach (food waste of rice and green beans) which proves that the death occurred after the meal of lunch by 1 or 2 hours.
 There are no apparent signs of disease in all internal parts of the heart.
 Samples were taken from bodily fluids and tissue to be examined in Israeli labs, and therefore the Israeli Medical Committee refused to announce the reason of death until the results from the Israeli labs were issued.
 In light of forensic evidence and scientific forensic explanations, it is the opinion of the technician, as a Palestinian forensic doctor and as an expert in the field of forensic medicine, that:-
 THE REASON OF DEATH: nervous shock as a result of extreme pain from the intensity of the injuries described."

Preliminary Arafat Jaradat autopsy report: 'Reason of Death: nervous shock as a result of extreme pain from the intensity of the injuries described above, which resulted from multiple direct and extensive acts of torture'

Sherri

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Excerpts From Preliminary Autopsy Report of Arafat Jaradat

"Injuries
 Presence of excoriation (when part of the skin is removed) with recent bruising on the lower lip
 Presence of strong and excessive bruising on the upper right of the back
 Presence of circular bruises on bottom left of the breast on the front side of the chest
 Presence of bruise on the left elbow, back of the arm
 Presence of bruise mid-backside of the right upper arm
 Presence of bruises 9X4 cm on the top of the left shoulder. The bruises are under the skin inside the muscle and along the spine at the bottom of the neck deep inside the tissue.
 Presence of bruises 10x4 cm on the right side of the chest under the skin inside the muscles 27cm away from the middle line of the back and 53cm from the top of the head
 Presence of fracture in the second and third ribs on the front left side of the chest with the presence of fresh bruises around the fracture.
 Presence of a fracture in the second rib on the front right side of the chest.
o All bruises (injuries) are very recent and strong resulting from direct intensive torture"


"Results
 Corpse is male, 33 years old. The corpse had good muscle structure during life.
 The autopsy showed that the heart is perfectly sound and free of signs of clots (heart attacks) It showed the presence of several injuries described above and all of them are recent and fresh, resulting from extensive direct torture. As shown through the undigested contents of the
[Disclaimer: This is an unofficial translation by Addameer and Al Haq and provided for
reference only]
stomach (food waste of rice and green beans) which proves that the death occurred after the meal of lunch by 1 or 2 hours.
 There are no apparent signs of disease in all internal parts of the heart.
 Samples were taken from bodily fluids and tissue to be examined in Israeli labs, and therefore the Israeli Medical Committee refused to announce the reason of death until the results from the Israeli labs were issued.
 In light of forensic evidence and scientific forensic explanations, it is the opinion of the technician, as a Palestinian forensic doctor and as an expert in the field of forensic medicine, that:-
 THE REASON OF DEATH: nervous shock as a result of extreme pain from the intensity of the injuries described."

Preliminary Arafat Jaradat autopsy report: 'Reason of Death: nervous shock as a result of extreme pain from the intensity of the injuries described above, which resulted from multiple direct and extensive acts of torture'

Sherri

And this is the response of Palestinian organizations:

"The Palestinian Human Rights Organisations Council (PHROC), along with Adalah, Public Committee Against Torture in Israel and Physicians for Human Rights-Israel, express their outrage at the death of Arafat Jaradat, 30, which, according to the autopsy report of Dr Saber al-‘Aloul, Director of the Palestinian Medico-legal Institute, was caused by torture and ill-treatment inflicted while in Israeli custody. The preliminary autopsy, to which there are links below, found that Arafat displayed severe bruising on his upper back, deep bruising along the spine, and significant bruising on both sides of the chest. The postmortem also discovered bruising on both arms and inside the mouth, blood around the nose and three fractured ribs. In addition, the examination discounted the claim by the Israeli authorities that Arafat died of a heart attack. His heart was completely healthy and there was no evidence of damage or weakness of any kind. The report concludes that all injuries were the result of very recent, severe and direct torture. The undersigned organisations reiterate the demands made by UN representatives for an immediate international investigation into the death of Arafat Jaradat with a view to holding those responsible for his death accountable."

Preliminary Arafat Jaradat autopsy report: 'Reason of Death: nervous shock as a result of extreme pain from the intensity of the injuries described above, which resulted from multiple direct and extensive acts of torture'

 

[irosie91]

there is no DIAGNOSIS "death from nervous shock due to
extreme pain" all of the injuries described can be attributed to a RESUCITATION effort upon a ---dead body.
The bruising of the mouth is from INTUBATION The neck fractures from FORCED EXTENSION OF THE NECK for the
facilitation of INTUBATION (try extending the neck of
a corpse in RIGOR MORTIS ) The fractures ribs from CHEST COMPRESSION (to get the heart pumping) in a corpse in
rigor mortis Keep in mind that the resuscitation was
initiated by emergency techs -----the idiot meccan pathologist
stated that the guy must have been dead since the DAY BEFORE LUNCH -----a resusciation on a person dead for HOURS ---is quite a dreadful experience ---
--NOTHING WORKS ---everything is STIFF ---non compliant---almost impossible to COMPRESS THE CHEST or move anything as needed for the procedure ------and there was
probably no one there yet to say "YUP ---GIVE UP ---HE's DEAD" they need doctors to pronounce a corpse a corpse
---so " GIVE UP RESUSCITATION EFFORTS" did not happen
for quite awhile

"I LOOKED AT THE HEART AND IT LOOKED OK" is not an
autopsy------microscopics are required for a real autopsy---
autopsy of the brain has to wait for FIXATION----that takes---
--(I forgot---something like two weeks)

in sum and substance----the autopsy is not complete ---
so far there is no cause of death---and the dx
NERVOUS SHOCK FROM PAIN is----nonsense
does this jerk have EVIDENCE of this unheard of diagnosis?

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

 

[Hossfly]

Excerpts From Preliminary Autopsy Report of Arafat Jaradat

"Injuries
 Presence of excoriation (when part of the skin is removed) with recent bruising on the lower lip
 Presence of strong and excessive bruising on the upper right of the back
 Presence of circular bruises on bottom left of the breast on the front side of the chest
 Presence of bruise on the left elbow, back of the arm
 Presence of bruise mid-backside of the right upper arm
 Presence of bruises 9X4 cm on the top of the left shoulder. The bruises are under the skin inside the muscle and along the spine at the bottom of the neck deep inside the tissue.
 Presence of bruises 10x4 cm on the right side of the chest under the skin inside the muscles 27cm away from the middle line of the back and 53cm from the top of the head
 Presence of fracture in the second and third ribs on the front left side of the chest with the presence of fresh bruises around the fracture.
 Presence of a fracture in the second rib on the front right side of the chest.
o All bruises (injuries) are very recent and strong resulting from direct intensive torture"


"Results
 Corpse is male, 33 years old. The corpse had good muscle structure during life.
 The autopsy showed that the heart is perfectly sound and free of signs of clots (heart attacks) It showed the presence of several injuries described above and all of them are recent and fresh, resulting from extensive direct torture. As shown through the undigested contents of the
[Disclaimer: This is an unofficial translation by Addameer and Al Haq and provided for
reference only]
stomach (food waste of rice and green beans) which proves that the death occurred after the meal of lunch by 1 or 2 hours.
 There are no apparent signs of disease in all internal parts of the heart.
 Samples were taken from bodily fluids and tissue to be examined in Israeli labs, and therefore the Israeli Medical Committee refused to announce the reason of death until the results from the Israeli labs were issued.
 In light of forensic evidence and scientific forensic explanations, it is the opinion of the technician, as a Palestinian forensic doctor and as an expert in the field of forensic medicine, that:-
 THE REASON OF DEATH: nervous shock as a result of extreme pain from the intensity of the injuries described."

Preliminary Arafat Jaradat autopsy report: 'Reason of Death: nervous shock as a result of extreme pain from the intensity of the injuries described above, which resulted from multiple direct and extensive acts of torture'

Sherri

I think most of us will go with the Israeli report since Sherri's source always wants to blame the Jews for something. So pathetic how Frau Sherri is not interested at all with the torture that actually goes on in Muslim prisons, even when it involves her fellow Christians including Pastors. Meanwhile, the report on the Israeli authopsy came from a Christian source based in Israel. Are you trying to tell us, Frau Sherri, that these Christians are trying to put something over on us?

 

[Coyote]

Excerpts From Preliminary Autopsy Report of Arafat Jaradat

"Injuries
 Presence of excoriation (when part of the skin is removed) with recent bruising on the lower lip
 Presence of strong and excessive bruising on the upper right of the back
 Presence of circular bruises on bottom left of the breast on the front side of the chest
 Presence of bruise on the left elbow, back of the arm
 Presence of bruise mid-backside of the right upper arm
 Presence of bruises 9X4 cm on the top of the left shoulder. The bruises are under the skin inside the muscle and along the spine at the bottom of the neck deep inside the tissue.
 Presence of bruises 10x4 cm on the right side of the chest under the skin inside the muscles 27cm away from the middle line of the back and 53cm from the top of the head
 Presence of fracture in the second and third ribs on the front left side of the chest with the presence of fresh bruises around the fracture.
 Presence of a fracture in the second rib on the front right side of the chest.
o All bruises (injuries) are very recent and strong resulting from direct intensive torture"


"Results
 Corpse is male, 33 years old. The corpse had good muscle structure during life.
 The autopsy showed that the heart is perfectly sound and free of signs of clots (heart attacks) It showed the presence of several injuries described above and all of them are recent and fresh, resulting from extensive direct torture. As shown through the undigested contents of the
[Disclaimer: This is an unofficial translation by Addameer and Al Haq and provided for
reference only]
stomach (food waste of rice and green beans) which proves that the death occurred after the meal of lunch by 1 or 2 hours.
 There are no apparent signs of disease in all internal parts of the heart.
 Samples were taken from bodily fluids and tissue to be examined in Israeli labs, and therefore the Israeli Medical Committee refused to announce the reason of death until the results from the Israeli labs were issued.
 In light of forensic evidence and scientific forensic explanations, it is the opinion of the technician, as a Palestinian forensic doctor and as an expert in the field of forensic medicine, that:-
 THE REASON OF DEATH: nervous shock as a result of extreme pain from the intensity of the injuries described."

Preliminary Arafat Jaradat autopsy report: 'Reason of Death: nervous shock as a result of extreme pain from the intensity of the injuries described above, which resulted from multiple direct and extensive acts of torture'

Sherri

I think most of us will go with the Israeli report since Sherri's source always wants to blame the Jews for something. So pathetic how Frau Sherri is not interested at all with the torture that actually goes on in Muslim prisons, even when it involves her fellow Christians including Pastors. Meanwhile, the report on the Israeli authopsy came from a Christian source based in Israel. Are you trying to tell us, Frau Sherri, that these Christians are trying to put something over on us?

I think most of us, with half a brain, would realize that the Israeli report most likely reflects Israel's own agenda, Herr Hossfart. Meanwhile your pathetic attempts to to try and make this about religion, as opposed to national politics is truly pathetic. Your obsessive attempt to derail threads that have nothing to do with Christianity is duly noted.

 

[Hossfly]

Excerpts From Preliminary Autopsy Report of Arafat Jaradat

"Injuries
 Presence of excoriation (when part of the skin is removed) with recent bruising on the lower lip
 Presence of strong and excessive bruising on the upper right of the back
 Presence of circular bruises on bottom left of the breast on the front side of the chest
 Presence of bruise on the left elbow, back of the arm
 Presence of bruise mid-backside of the right upper arm
 Presence of bruises 9X4 cm on the top of the left shoulder. The bruises are under the skin inside the muscle and along the spine at the bottom of the neck deep inside the tissue.
 Presence of bruises 10x4 cm on the right side of the chest under the skin inside the muscles 27cm away from the middle line of the back and 53cm from the top of the head
 Presence of fracture in the second and third ribs on the front left side of the chest with the presence of fresh bruises around the fracture.
 Presence of a fracture in the second rib on the front right side of the chest.
o All bruises (injuries) are very recent and strong resulting from direct intensive torture"


"Results
 Corpse is male, 33 years old. The corpse had good muscle structure during life.
 The autopsy showed that the heart is perfectly sound and free of signs of clots (heart attacks) It showed the presence of several injuries described above and all of them are recent and fresh, resulting from extensive direct torture. As shown through the undigested contents of the
[Disclaimer: This is an unofficial translation by Addameer and Al Haq and provided for
reference only]
stomach (food waste of rice and green beans) which proves that the death occurred after the meal of lunch by 1 or 2 hours.
 There are no apparent signs of disease in all internal parts of the heart.
 Samples were taken from bodily fluids and tissue to be examined in Israeli labs, and therefore the Israeli Medical Committee refused to announce the reason of death until the results from the Israeli labs were issued.
 In light of forensic evidence and scientific forensic explanations, it is the opinion of the technician, as a Palestinian forensic doctor and as an expert in the field of forensic medicine, that:-
 THE REASON OF DEATH: nervous shock as a result of extreme pain from the intensity of the injuries described."

Preliminary Arafat Jaradat autopsy report: 'Reason of Death: nervous shock as a result of extreme pain from the intensity of the injuries described above, which resulted from multiple direct and extensive acts of torture'

Sherri

I think most of us will go with the Israeli report since Sherri's source always wants to blame the Jews for something. So pathetic how Frau Sherri is not interested at all with the torture that actually goes on in Muslim prisons, even when it involves her fellow Christians including Pastors. Meanwhile, the report on the Israeli authopsy came from a Christian source based in Israel. Are you trying to tell us, Frau Sherri, that these Christians are trying to put something over on us?

I think most of us, with half a brain, would realize that the Israeli report most likely reflects Israel's own agenda, Herr Hossfart. Meanwhile your pathetic attempts to to try and make this about religion, as opposed to national politics is truly pathetic. Your obsessive attempt to derail threads that have nothing to do with Christianity is duly noted.

My post doesn't have a thing to do with religion. However, all the threads on this forum seem to be about Jews, Muslims and Christians. That means the whole situation in the Mideast is about religion. Where have you been?

 

[Coyote]

I think most of us will go with the Israeli report since Sherri's source always wants to blame the Jews for something. So pathetic how Frau Sherri is not interested at all with the torture that actually goes on in Muslim prisons, even when it involves her fellow Christians including Pastors. Meanwhile, the report on the Israeli authopsy came from a Christian source based in Israel. Are you trying to tell us, Frau Sherri, that these Christians are trying to put something over on us?

I think most of us, with half a brain, would realize that the Israeli report most likely reflects Israel's own agenda, Herr Hossfart. Meanwhile your pathetic attempts to to try and make this about religion, as opposed to national politics is truly pathetic. Your obsessive attempt to derail threads that have nothing to do with Christianity is duly noted.

My post doesn't have a thing to do with religion. However, all the threads on this forum seem to be about Jews, Muslims and Christians. That means the whole situation in the Mideast is about religion. Where have you been?

In this particular thread, it really isn't about religion - it's about ethnic and and national identity.

I'm not sure if you realize it or not but Palestinians come in Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Druze and other assorted flavors as do Israeli's.

And yes, your post DOES have to do with religion because you continually need to point out the religious identities of those you are posting about.

 

[Hossfly]

I think most of us, with half a brain, would realize that the Israeli report most likely reflects Israel's own agenda, Herr Hossfart. Meanwhile your pathetic attempts to to try and make this about religion, as opposed to national politics is truly pathetic. Your obsessive attempt to derail threads that have nothing to do with Christianity is duly noted.

My post doesn't have a thing to do with religion. However, all the threads on this forum seem to be about Jews, Muslims and Christians. That means the whole situation in the Mideast is about religion. Where have you been?

In this particular thread, it really isn't about religion - it's about ethnic and and national identity.

I'm not sure if you realize it or not but Palestinians come in Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Druze and other assorted flavors as do Israeli's.

And yes, your post DOES have to do with religion because you continually need to point out the religious identities of those you are posting about.

I've spent a little time in the Middle East so I know a teensie weensie bit about the different breeds. But how am I supposed to answer Samer's nanny when she says he is like Jesus, is of the image of God and and every other description of Godliness and goodness?

 

[Dot Com]

Excerpts From Preliminary Autopsy Report of Arafat Jaradat

"Injuries
 Presence of excoriation (when part of the skin is removed) with recent bruising on the lower lip
 Presence of strong and excessive bruising on the upper right of the back
 Presence of circular bruises on bottom left of the breast on the front side of the chest
 Presence of bruise on the left elbow, back of the arm
 Presence of bruise mid-backside of the right upper arm
 Presence of bruises 9X4 cm on the top of the left shoulder. The bruises are under the skin inside the muscle and along the spine at the bottom of the neck deep inside the tissue.
 Presence of bruises 10x4 cm on the right side of the chest under the skin inside the muscles 27cm away from the middle line of the back and 53cm from the top of the head
 Presence of fracture in the second and third ribs on the front left side of the chest with the presence of fresh bruises around the fracture.
 Presence of a fracture in the second rib on the front right side of the chest.
o All bruises (injuries) are very recent and strong resulting from direct intensive torture"


"Results
 Corpse is male, 33 years old. The corpse had good muscle structure during life.
 The autopsy showed that the heart is perfectly sound and free of signs of clots (heart attacks) It showed the presence of several injuries described above and all of them are recent and fresh, resulting from extensive direct torture. As shown through the undigested contents of the
[Disclaimer: This is an unofficial translation by Addameer and Al Haq and provided for
reference only]
stomach (food waste of rice and green beans) which proves that the death occurred after the meal of lunch by 1 or 2 hours.
 There are no apparent signs of disease in all internal parts of the heart.
 Samples were taken from bodily fluids and tissue to be examined in Israeli labs, and therefore the Israeli Medical Committee refused to announce the reason of death until the results from the Israeli labs were issued.
 In light of forensic evidence and scientific forensic explanations, it is the opinion of the technician, as a Palestinian forensic doctor and as an expert in the field of forensic medicine, that:-
 THE REASON OF DEATH: nervous shock as a result of extreme pain from the intensity of the injuries described."

Preliminary Arafat Jaradat autopsy report: 'Reason of Death: nervous shock as a result of extreme pain from the intensity of the injuries described above, which resulted from multiple direct and extensive acts of torture'

Sherri

I think most of us will go with the Israeli report since Sherri's source always wants to blame the Jews for something. So pathetic how Frau Sherri is not interested at all with the torture that actually goes on in Muslim prisons, even when it involves her fellow Christians including Pastors. Meanwhile, the report on the Israeli authopsy came from a Christian source based in Israel. Are you trying to tell us, Frau Sherri, that these Christians are trying to put something over on us?

I think most of us, with half a brain, would realize that the Israeli report most likely reflects Israel's own agenda, Herr Hossfart. Meanwhile your pathetic attempts to to try and make this about religion, as opposed to national politics is truly pathetic. Your obsessive attempt to derail threads that have nothing to do with Christianity is duly noted.

good post. I noticed that too. One of irosie91's cheerleaders it would seem. He needs to step-up his game or he's going on ignore

 

[Coyote]

My post doesn't have a thing to do with religion. However, all the threads on this forum seem to be about Jews, Muslims and Christians. That means the whole situation in the Mideast is about religion. Where have you been?

In this particular thread, it really isn't about religion - it's about ethnic and and national identity.

I'm not sure if you realize it or not but Palestinians come in Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Druze and other assorted flavors as do Israeli's.

And yes, your post DOES have to do with religion because you continually need to point out the religious identities of those you are posting about.

I've spent a little time in the Middle East so I know a teensie weensie bit about the different breeds. But how am I supposed to answer Samer's nanny when she says he is like Jesus, is of the image of God and and every other description of Godliness and goodness?

Rapture?

 

[Hossfly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqydu3CTrhc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Even if this were true, Frau Sherri, what is worse -- blindfolding some kid or torturing him like they do kids in Muslim prisons? You still haven't told of where the prisons in any Muslim countries allow the prisoners to get college degrees the way Israel allows your Muslim friends to do.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

In this particular thread, it really isn't about religion - it's about ethnic and and national identity.

I'm not sure if you realize it or not but Palestinians come in Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Druze and other assorted flavors as do Israeli's.

And yes, your post DOES have to do with religion because you continually need to point out the religious identities of those you are posting about.

I've spent a little time in the Middle East so I know a teensie weensie bit about the different breeds. But how am I supposed to answer Samer's nanny when she says he is like Jesus, is of the image of God and and every other description of Godliness and goodness?

Rapture?

While he is on his hunger strike, he is all of those things. Do I control his choices tomorrow? No But, today he is these things. And neither of us really knows the extent of his involvement in violence in the past. The fact is Israel punishes all resistance to Occupation, nonviolent and violent, in the same way. They try them in military courts where the conviction rate is 99 percent, they use coerced confessions obtained after torture of detainees, the entire trial process is a farce and devoid of justice.

What does the Rapture have to do with this? I believe that was an invention of misguided men in the 1800s.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqydu3CTrhc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Even if this were true, Frau Sherri, what is worse -- blindfolding some kid or torturing him like they do kids in Muslim prisons? You still haven't told of where the prisons in any Muslim countries allow the prisoners to get college degrees the way Israel allows your Muslim friends to do.

But they do torture the children ,if you actually read the reports and watched the videos, you would know this. In The Guardian article, we find human rights groups documenting a pattern, children would be arrested in the middle of the night, most of the time on the suspicion of throwing stones, they would be shackled, blindfolded, put in solitary confinement, interrogated for 25 days, 6 hours a day, they were verbally abused and physically abused, they were threatened, their familes were threatened, I listened to a boy who was threatened with sodomy with a stick by soldiers, they azare interrogated until they confess to what the soldiers tell them to confess to. And we are talking about children this was done to and is being done to. I have read of reports of children as young as 7 arrested.

 

[Hossfly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqydu3CTrhc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Even if this were true, Frau Sherri, what is worse -- blindfolding some kid or torturing him like they do kids in Muslim prisons? You still haven't told of where the prisons in any Muslim countries allow the prisoners to get college degrees the way Israel allows your Muslim friends to do.

But they do torture the children ,if you actually read the reports and watched the videos, you would know this. In The Guardian article, we find human rights groups documenting a pattern, children would be arrested in the middle of the night, most of the time on the suspicion of throwing stones, they would be shackled, blindfolded, put in solitary confinement, interrogated for 25 days, 6 hours a day, they were verbally abused and physically abused, they were threatened, their familes were threatened, I listened to a boy who was threatened with sodomy with a stick by soldiers, they azare interrogated until they confess to what the soldiers tell them to confess to. And we are talking about children this was done to and is being done to. I have read of reports of children as young as 7 arrested.

Israel doesn't go around as a rule and torture the children in prison no matter how hard you are trying to convince the viewers. However, your Muslim friends certainly do in their prisons. Meanwhile, two young Copts have just been thrown into an Egyptian prison for supposedly committing blasphemy. Why not try to help them out? By the way, I am still waiting for you to give us a list of Muslim prisons where the prisoners are able to get college degrees like they can do in Israeli prisons. Do these prisoners in Israeli jails get tortured if they don't do their homework? After you try to help these Copt children, you can spend some time trying to help these children.
Tortured, traumatised, scarred: the children caught up in Syria's war | World news | The Guardian

 

[Coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqydu3CTrhc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Even if this were true, Frau Sherri, what is worse -- blindfolding some kid or torturing him like they do kids in Muslim prisons? You still haven't told of where the prisons in any Muslim countries allow the prisoners to get college degrees the way Israel allows your Muslim friends to do.

You call them Muslim prisons, but in really, they aren't.

They're
Egyption
Syrian
Iranian
Iraqi
etc.

People who are identified more by ethnic heritage or who's political systems are determined by dictators than by religious heritage.

Are Israeli prisons "Jewish" prisons?

Are American prisons "Christian" prisons?

What are Chinese prisons?

 

[Coyote]

Israel doesn't go around as a rule and torture the children in prison no matter how hard you are trying to convince the viewers. However, your Muslim friends certainly do in their prisons. Meanwhile, two young Copts have just been thrown into an Egyptian prison for supposedly committing blasphemy. Why not try to help them out? By the way, I am still waiting for you to give us a list of Muslim prisons where the prisoners are able to get college degrees like they can do in Israeli prisons. Do these prisoners in Israeli jails get tortured if they don't do their homework? After you try to help these Copt children, you can spend some time trying to help these children.
Tortured, traumatised, scarred: the children caught up in Syria's war | World news | The Guardian

According to http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/13/us-palestinians-children-idUSBRE82C0ZR20120313:

The charity said that since 2000, the Israeli army had detained more than 8,000 Palestinian children in the occupied West Bank and prosecuted children as young as 12 in military courts, most of them suspected of rock-throwing.

Ninety-eight percent of detained children reported being subjected to violence, either physical or verbal, by Israeli soldiers, the charity's program adviser Eyad al-Araj told a news conference in the West Bank, an ordeal that left psychological scars on almost all of them.

Ok....the two young Copts and 8,000 Palestinian children.

Can we not condemn Israel's actions here without resorting to deflecting the topic onto other nation's treatment of children in prisons?

 

[irosie91]

LOL "the prisoners reported......" I got news.....
try asking the same questions of inmates
in US jails -------

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

LOL "the prisoners reported......" I got news.....
try asking the same questions of inmates
in US jails -------

The last post was addressing 8000 children, primarily accused of throwing stones, being tortured. And that is your response?