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His full statement is on his Facebook page. Don’t know how to link it. Sorry
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Hussein set to release statement on trump’s bold and brave move today
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His full statement is on his Facebook page. Don’t know how to link it. Sorry
Ten years is ten years. That means ten years to negotiate and make a new deal. Now, Iran can have an operational nuke created by N. Korea or Pakistan loaded unto a suicide bomber next weak. Heck, the deal might already be made.The Liar in Chief trump is making two new nuke powers. Both Iran and N. Korea will be nuclear powers before the end of trump's romp as the worst President in American history.
This is a laughable assertion as it was your hero the obummer who inked a deal with iran that GRANTED them a nuke in 10 years. Pull your head out of your ass someday.
Luddly Neddite
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The Liar in Chief trump is making two new nuke powers. Both Iran and N. Korea will be nuclear powers before the end of trump's romp as the worst President in American history.
They already have the raw material and now they have a green light from trump.
He has weakened the US, undercuts the US, endangers the US.
He said he "loves war", "loves debt", wants to use nukes. He loves chaos and wants to destabilize the region. He's dangerous. He lied today and Netanyahu lied with his show and tell.
All we can do is hope cooler heads prevail.
Pogo
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incoming
Soooooooooooo.... no link, no quote, no video, no story, no nothing.
Thanks. 3.6 seconds I'll never get back.
His full statement is on his Facebook page. Don’t know how to link it. Sorry
Then go find a copy somewhere. This is your thread, that makes it your responsibility to make it one. Not mine. And I don't do Fecesbook anyway.
This may come as a shock but posting the word "Incoming" makes no point about anything.
fncceo
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The Liar in Chief trump is making two new nuke powers. Both Iran and N. Korea will be nuclear powers before the end of trump's romp as the worst President in American history.
It was actually Bill Clinton that made North Korea a nuclear power.
TheMoreYouKnow
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Obama Admin holds more power and much longer than the beloved but Wretched Confederate State.
OldLady
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Barack Obama
1 hr ·
There are few issues more important to the security of the United States than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for even more destructive war in the Middle East. That’s why the United States negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the first place.
The reality is clear. The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S. Secretary of Defense. The JCPOA is in America’s interest – it has significantly rolled back Iran’s nuclear program. And the JCPOA is a model for what diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is precisely what the United States should be working to put in place with North Korea. Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for diplomacy with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks losing a deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are pursuing with the North Koreans.
That is why today’s announcement is so misguided. Walking away from the JCPOA turns our back on America’s closest allies, and an agreement that our country’s leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence professionals negotiated. In a democracy, there will always be changes in policies and priorities from one Administration to the next. But the consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks eroding America’s credibility, and puts us at odds with the world’s major powers.
Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially debates that have proven to be divisive. So it’s important to review several facts about the JCPOA.
First, the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration and the Iranian government. After years of building an international coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached the JCPOA together with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the European Union, Russia, China, and Iran. It is a multilateral arms control deal, unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution.
Second, the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran’s nuclear program. For decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching the point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to build a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on that breakout capacity. Since the JCPOA was implemented, Iran has destroyed the core of a reactor that could have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international monitoring; and eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure, the JCPOA has imposed strict limitations on Iran's nuclear program and achieved real results.
Third, the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in an arms control deal. Iran’s nuclear facilities are strictly monitored. International monitors also have access to Iran’s entire nuclear supply chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA, this monitoring and inspections regime would go away.
Fourth, Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the view of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the deal, and has reported as much to Congress. So have our closest allies, and the international agency responsible for verifying Iranian compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire. The prohibition on Iran ever obtaining a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and intrusive inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the provisions in the JCPOA do become less strict with time, this won’t happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the deal, so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.
Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior – including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its neighbors. But that’s precisely why it was so important that we prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian behavior that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran’s destabilizing behavior – and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened with the JCPOA, and weakened without it.
Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA at risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake. Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East. We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. It could embolden an already dangerous regime; threaten our friends with destruction; pose unacceptable dangers to America’s own security; and trigger an arms race in the world’s most dangerous region. If the constraints on Iran’s nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we could be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.
In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong, principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our diplomats, many members of Congress, and our allies. Going forward, I hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can best secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe.
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Barack Obama
1 hr ·
There are few issues more important to the security of the United States than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for even more destructive war in the Middle East. That’s why the United States negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the first place.
The reality is clear. The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S. Secretary of Defense. The JCPOA is in America’s interest – it has significantly rolled back Iran’s nuclear program. And the JCPOA is a model for what diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is precisely what the United States should be working to put in place with North Korea. Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for diplomacy with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks losing a deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are pursuing with the North Koreans.
That is why today’s announcement is so misguided. Walking away from the JCPOA turns our back on America’s closest allies, and an agreement that our country’s leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence professionals negotiated. In a democracy, there will always be changes in policies and priorities from one Administration to the next. But the consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks eroding America’s credibility, and puts us at odds with the world’s major powers.
Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially debates that have proven to be divisive. So it’s important to review several facts about the JCPOA.
First, the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration and the Iranian government. After years of building an international coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached the JCPOA together with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the European Union, Russia, China, and Iran. It is a multilateral arms control deal, unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution.
Second, the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran’s nuclear program. For decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching the point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to build a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on that breakout capacity. Since the JCPOA was implemented, Iran has destroyed the core of a reactor that could have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international monitoring; and eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure, the JCPOA has imposed strict limitations on Iran's nuclear program and achieved real results.
Third, the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in an arms control deal. Iran’s nuclear facilities are strictly monitored. International monitors also have access to Iran’s entire nuclear supply chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA, this monitoring and inspections regime would go away.
Fourth, Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the view of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the deal, and has reported as much to Congress. So have our closest allies, and the international agency responsible for verifying Iranian compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire. The prohibition on Iran ever obtaining a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and intrusive inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the provisions in the JCPOA do become less strict with time, this won’t happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the deal, so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.
Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior – including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its neighbors. But that’s precisely why it was so important that we prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian behavior that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran’s destabilizing behavior – and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened with the JCPOA, and weakened without it.
Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA at risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake. Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East. We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. It could embolden an already dangerous regime; threaten our friends with destruction; pose unacceptable dangers to America’s own security; and trigger an arms race in the world’s most dangerous region. If the constraints on Iran’s nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we could be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.
In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong, principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our diplomats, many members of Congress, and our allies. Going forward, I hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can best secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe.
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Barack Obama
Pogo
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I just posted it for ya, Pogoincoming
Soooooooooooo.... no link, no quote, no video, no story, no nothing.
Thanks. 3.6 seconds I'll never get back.
Don't enable him. He'll never learn a damn thing if you let him off the hook.
You're a teacher, you should know that.
I don't get how this thread continues to exist without having an OP.
Remodeling Maidiac
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Unless they lived under the rock with you all they knew it was coming so who cares. Let them deal with it.The real question is what will the other partners to the agreement do.
rightwinger
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Trump has once again destroyed our global reputationTrump screwed the pooch for no reason other than spite
He deserves whatever criticism he receives
Pisses me off that he doesn't care that it will do serious harm to the US.
And saddens me that RWNJs want anything that will do serious harm to the US.
About trump, why did he choose now to heel obey Netanyahu? He's either stupid or he knows what will likely happen. The right loves anything that hurts the US. That sounds so bizarre but there's no other reason for what trump and the rabid right does.
Sick sick sick stuff.
It is obvious we are a nation that does not know what it is doing
rightwinger
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Hey...Trumpites
We warned you
We warned you
Siete
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Trump has once again destroyed our global reputationTrump screwed the pooch for no reason other than spite
He deserves whatever criticism he receives
Pisses me off that he doesn't care that it will do serious harm to the US.
And saddens me that RWNJs want anything that will do serious harm to the US.
About trump, why did he choose now to heel obey Netanyahu? He's either stupid or he knows what will likely happen. The right loves anything that hurts the US. That sounds so bizarre but there's no other reason for what trump and the rabid right does.
Sick sick sick stuff.
It is obvious we are a nation that does not know what it is doing
Russia supports Iran - Trump supports Russia
that old derelict sob knows exactly what he doing
BlindBoo
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so who cares. Let them deal with it.
I'm sure they have already planned for this eventuality
They began development back in the 60's, so you can play that game lots, but here are some undeniable facts. N. Korea didn't test a suspected thermonuclear or hydrogen bomb of 100 to 200 kilotons until it's 6th bomb test on September 3, 2017. Only a few weeks later they tested an intercontinental missile capable of reaching the USA,The Liar in Chief trump is making two new nuke powers. Both Iran and N. Korea will be nuclear powers before the end of trump's romp as the worst President in American history.
It was actually Bill Clinton that made North Korea a nuclear power.
Everything before that last nuke test and ICM test were experiments and classified as research and development. Those last two test were finished products and results.
N. Korea reached the ability to nuke the USA while trump was and is President.
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OldLady
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LOL. I didn't actually do it for him; I had just read it and decided to share it.I just posted it for ya, Pogoincoming
Soooooooooooo.... no link, no quote, no video, no story, no nothing.
Thanks. 3.6 seconds I'll never get back.
Don't enable him. He'll never learn a damn thing if you let him off the hook.
You're a teacher, you should know that.
I don't get how this thread continues to exist without having an OP.
Boy do I miss an articulate, thoughtful President.
imawhosure
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This guy really thinks his opinion matters anymore
He must've woke up form a coma.
He better be careful, because after Kerry gets arrested for the Logan act, if he doesn't watch his mouth, he could be next!
By the way folks----------> write your congress critters------>
1. Prosecute John Kerry for Logan act.
2. Prosecute Rosie O, just like they did Dinesh for the same thing.
Time we make the left deal with their own crap!
And oh yeah, lets hang that District Attorney in New York right next to Harvey Weinstein-)
All Leftists, all need prosecuted, all need to be reported on-)
Luddly Neddite
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The Liar in Chief trump is making two new nuke powers. Both Iran and N. Korea will be nuclear powers before the end of trump's romp as the worst President in American history.
It was actually Bill Clinton that made North Korea a nuclear power.
Nope. Way too simplified.
Viral image blames Clinton for giving North Korea nukes
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