Hydroxychloroquine as treatment for COVID-19 shows no benefit and more deaths in VA study

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I still love the idea that anyone should overdose any drug and not expect problems.

Cool! So, professor...what dosage of chloroquine is the correct dosage?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

am allergic to it. If it is administered to me, I could get hurt, maybe even die.

Stupid comparison.

 

[joaquinmiller]

Must be another

Seriously, Gipper, supporters of the guy who inherited a big real estate company getting worked up over an expensive freezer and some ice cream? And you deflected from discussion of the VA study to bring it up.

Excuses. Excuses. Excuses.

Excuses? I don't need excuses. I'm a partisan and don't deny it. You must be another of those fierce independents who kick left and kiss right. How else was Nancy's ice cream relevant?

Partisans are dumb. Why admit to being dumb?

Your premise is flawed. Not all partisans are alike. Why pretend I admitted to something I didn't? Aren't you smarter than that?

True, but they’re all dumb.

That's just saying stupid stuff.

 

[Godboy]

I should begin this thread by anticipating what lies Trumpette's will say about it. I can hear them now. "You are glad it didn't work." Just as they lie when saying, "you want the economy to crash." It's the kind of thing they do when their most Excellent, Infallible and Omnipotent Leader proves himself to be a modern day Elmer Gantry.

Trump-Boosted Malaria Drug Showed No Benefit In Study At Veterans Hospitals

Trump-Boosted Malaria Drug Showed No Benefit In Study At Veterans Hospitals

A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those…

talkingpointsmemo.com

"A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care, researchers reported.

The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment. But with 368 patients, it’s the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without the antibiotic azithromycin for COVID-19, which has killed more than 171,000 people as of Tuesday.

The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has been submitted to the New England Journal of Medicine, but has not been reviewed by other scientists. Grants from the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia paid for the work.

Researchers did not track side effects, but noted hints that hydroxychloroquine might have damaged other organs. The drug has long been known to have potentially serious side effects, including altering the heartbeat in a way that could lead to sudden death.

Earlier this month, scientists in Brazil stopped part of a hydroxychloroquine study after heart rhythm problems developed in one-quarter of people given the higher of two doses being tested."
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We critics of Trump said at the outset the issue was there was no scientific evidence on which to promote the drug's efficacy in treating the virus. That concern has turned out to be correct. However, there was evidence it could be harmful.

Ultimately, the questions are these. Will the Conman-in-Chief be held responsible by Trumptards for recklessly pushing the use of this drug before it was shown to be effective? Will they acknowledge it was wrong for him to have done so? The answer............have popes covered up for child molesters.

There were more deaths among those who used that drug because, the people who used that drug were the worst case scenarios and already dying.

You don't know that.

Yes i do. They werent just handing it out willy nilly to anyone who asked for it.

How do you know it? Link?

Where is your link that they gave it to anyone who wanted it?

 

[Muhammed]

am allergic to it. If it is administered to me, I could get hurt, maybe even die.

Stupid comparison.

...says the TDS afflicted moron who stupidly compared hydroxychloroquine to cyanide in another thread.

 

[joaquinmiller]

I should begin this thread by anticipating what lies Trumpette's will say about it. I can hear them now. "You are glad it didn't work." Just as they lie when saying, "you want the economy to crash." It's the kind of thing they do when their most Excellent, Infallible and Omnipotent Leader proves himself to be a modern day Elmer Gantry.

Trump-Boosted Malaria Drug Showed No Benefit In Study At Veterans Hospitals

Trump-Boosted Malaria Drug Showed No Benefit In Study At Veterans Hospitals

A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those…

talkingpointsmemo.com

"A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care, researchers reported.

The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment. But with 368 patients, it’s the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without the antibiotic azithromycin for COVID-19, which has killed more than 171,000 people as of Tuesday.

The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has been submitted to the New England Journal of Medicine, but has not been reviewed by other scientists. Grants from the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia paid for the work.

Researchers did not track side effects, but noted hints that hydroxychloroquine might have damaged other organs. The drug has long been known to have potentially serious side effects, including altering the heartbeat in a way that could lead to sudden death.

Earlier this month, scientists in Brazil stopped part of a hydroxychloroquine study after heart rhythm problems developed in one-quarter of people given the higher of two doses being tested."
............................................................................................................................................
We critics of Trump said at the outset the issue was there was no scientific evidence on which to promote the drug's efficacy in treating the virus. That concern has turned out to be correct. However, there was evidence it could be harmful.

Ultimately, the questions are these. Will the Conman-in-Chief be held responsible by Trumptards for recklessly pushing the use of this drug before it was shown to be effective? Will they acknowledge it was wrong for him to have done so? The answer............have popes covered up for child molesters.

There were more deaths among those who used that drug because, the people who used that drug were the worst case scenarios and already dying.

You don't know that.

Yes i do. They werent just handing it out willy nilly to anyone who asked for it.

How do you know it? Link?

Where is your link that they gave it to anyone who wanted it?

I make so such claim. You said this: "There were more deaths among those who used that drug because, the people who used that drug were the worst case scenarios and already dying."

Can you provide a link that supports that? You insisted you know that's the case.

 

[Muhammed]

Wakes up and immediately starts another day of bombing the boards with fear mongering and TDS.

Must really suck to not have a life and let one man consume your every waking thought.

Wakes up and immediately notes that Donald Trump was WRONG again. Trump spent millions of taxpayer dollars cornering the market on this drug and told everyone to try it, and God help them they did.

Why are you spreading disinformation, you stupid kunt?

Trump did not tell everyone to try it, you lying scumbag.

Do you think disseminating that kind of disinformation is funny? What is your motivation for disseminating dangerous disinformation?

Fuck you. You're despicable.

We have the tape.

You're so stupid that you probably believe that.

Fact: Trump has repeatedly advised Americans to make the decision in consultation with their doctor.


If you were intelligent, you would ask yourself why so many doctors are taking hydroxychloroquine, then research it's mechanism of action.

 

[Ame®icano]

About 28% who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11% of those getting routine care alone. About 22% of those getting the drug plus azithromycin died, too, but the difference between that group and those receiving usual care was not considered large enough to rule out other factors that could have affected survival.
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Researchers did not track side effects but noted hints that hydroxychloroquine might have damaged other organs. The drug has long been known to have potentially serious side effects, including altering the heartbeat in a way that could lead to sudden death.

Hydroxychloroquine as treatment for COVID-19 shows no benefit and more deaths in VA study

President Trump has frequently touted the malaria drug as a potential breakthrough in the ongoing coronavirus fight.

www.marketwatch.com

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But its not peer reviewed. Facts are facts, tramp should of never recommended it for days and days endless times, he quit talking about it a few days ago, I wonder why??

You found article on marketwatch and you think you're smartest person alive. Before you start screaming "REEEEE, so stoopid, malaria is bacteria, COVID-19 is virus, anti-bacteria drug no work on virus!" somebody need to tell you that drug doesn't need to directly act on the pathogen to be effective.

The effects of hydroxychloroquine are not on virus itself, but on blood that carries oxygen throughout the body. Without oxygen, organs are shutting down, and what hydroxychloroquine is doing is protecting hemoglobin in red blood cells, just as is doing against malaria that is bacteria whose food source is hemoglobin in the blood.

 

[Rambunctious]

All loyal tea bagger trumpoholics must support Donald Trump no matter how many times he is wrong or how often he gets caught promoting misinformation or even lying. Tea bagging and trumpoholicism are more than a lifestyle, it's equal to religion.

Whoa...another one is off the rails....Buuuaaahahhahahahaha

Tea bagging and trumpoholicism are realities you can't escape by denial. Reality indicates people with these afflictions or emotional and psychological disturbances are the only Americans left supporting a damaged Donald Trump. Republicans are now running ads for Joe Biden. Lots of them. Check youtube for Lincoln Project ads. Tea bagger trumpoholics live in a fantasy world.

How does it feel to learn that the Tea Party kicked your ass and exposed you progs for the human scum that you are?....

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

am allergic to it. If it is administered to me, I could get hurt, maybe even die.

Stupid comparison.

...says the TDS afflicted moron who stupidly compared hydroxychloroquine to cyanide in another thread.

Oh look, tantrum time again.

You have progressed to the second stage of realizing you have been fooled: anger.

3rd stage is acceptance. Give it a week or two.

 

[Camp]

All loyal tea bagger trumpoholics must support Donald Trump no matter how many times he is wrong or how often he gets caught promoting misinformation or even lying. Tea bagging and trumpoholicism are more than a lifestyle, it's equal to religion.

Whoa...another one is off the rails....Buuuaaahahhahahahaha

Tea bagging and trumpoholicism are realities you can't escape by denial. Reality indicates people with these afflictions or emotional and psychological disturbances are the only Americans left supporting a damaged Donald Trump. Republicans are now running ads for Joe Biden. Lots of them. Check youtube for Lincoln Project ads. Tea bagger trumpoholics live in a fantasy world.

How does it feel to learn that the Tea Party kicked your ass and exposed you progs for the human scum that you are?....

You are delusional. The last national election was in 2018. How well did your tea bagger party do? Appears the Dems skimmed 41 of the pond scum losers away in 2018.

 

[Rambunctious]

All loyal tea bagger trumpoholics must support Donald Trump no matter how many times he is wrong or how often he gets caught promoting misinformation or even lying. Tea bagging and trumpoholicism are more than a lifestyle, it's equal to religion.

Whoa...another one is off the rails....Buuuaaahahhahahahaha

Tea bagging and trumpoholicism are realities you can't escape by denial. Reality indicates people with these afflictions or emotional and psychological disturbances are the only Americans left supporting a damaged Donald Trump. Republicans are now running ads for Joe Biden. Lots of them. Check youtube for Lincoln Project ads. Tea bagger trumpoholics live in a fantasy world.

How does it feel to learn that the Tea Party kicked your ass and exposed you progs for the human scum that you are?....

You are delusional. The last national election was in 2018. How well did your tea bagger party do? Appears the Dems skimmed 41 of the pond scum losers away in 2018.

The dems stole that election the proof is all over the place....they stole Orange county in CA....this time the feds are watching....

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Oh i see, because China let the Wuhan Virus out, it is President Trumps fault for trying to save those in dire need with a medical treatment that is 72% effective.

In this case, it is shown that the treatment of hydroxychloroquine had negative effects.

People without medical expertise shouldn't be giving medical advice.

COVID-19 treatment hydroxychloroquine showed no benefit, more deaths in VA virus study

Malaria drug hydroxychloroquine showed no benefit in a large study of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals, researchers say.

www.foxnews.com

That is right, 28% who were on their death beds took it and died, the other 72% who took it got better. Maybe when you are on your deathbed, you will make that choice, i hope you dont try it...

 

[wamose]

If I get the virus, hydroxychloroquine is the first thing I'll ask for.

And odds are your doctor will tell you, "No, sorry, i make the decisions here, not Donnie Dotard."

I don't use Democrat doctors who base their treatments on politics so that isn't likely.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

All loyal tea bagger trumpoholics must support Donald Trump no matter how many times he is wrong or how often he gets caught promoting misinformation or even lying. Tea bagging and trumpoholicism are more than a lifestyle, it's equal to religion.

Whoa...another one is off the rails....Buuuaaahahhahahahaha

Tea bagging and trumpoholicism are realities you can't escape by denial. Reality indicates people with these afflictions or emotional and psychological disturbances are the only Americans left supporting a damaged Donald Trump. Republicans are now running ads for Joe Biden. Lots of them. Check youtube for Lincoln Project ads. Tea bagger trumpoholics live in a fantasy world.

How does it feel to learn that the Tea Party kicked your ass and exposed you progs for the human scum that you are?....

You are delusional. The last national election was in 2018. How well did your tea bagger party do? Appears the Dems skimmed 41 of the pond scum losers away in 2018.

yeah, the Democrats all ran on working with the President to make life better for all US citizens. What a bold face lie from those Demoncraps...Oh yea, how many states had to recount over and over? How many establishment Republicrats retired from the swamp, because no one was going to elect them anyway? Scum? Thy name is liberal...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

About 28% who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11% of those getting routine care alone. About 22% of those getting the drug plus azithromycin died, too, but the difference between that group and those receiving usual care was not considered large enough to rule out other factors that could have affected survival.
snip
Researchers did not track side effects but noted hints that hydroxychloroquine might have damaged other organs. The drug has long been known to have potentially serious side effects, including altering the heartbeat in a way that could lead to sudden death.

Hydroxychloroquine as treatment for COVID-19 shows no benefit and more deaths in VA study

President Trump has frequently touted the malaria drug as a potential breakthrough in the ongoing coronavirus fight.

www.marketwatch.com

------------------------------------------------

But its not peer reviewed. Facts are facts, tramp should of never recommended it for days and days endless times, he quit talking about it a few days ago, I wonder why??

wow 28% died...So 72% of the rest lived. Maybe those 28% were so wasted away, due to Dope smoking, Vape smoking, TB(thank Mexico for bringing that back) or just lack of hygiene that we know many on the left doesnt follow. I find it amazing that a liberal, who is such a worthless piece of excrement will always blow out of proportions a good thing, all in the name of propaganda to bring this president down.

You are a full blown idiot and obviously didn't read the OP's article, because if you had, you would have seen that these trials were taking place at VA hospitals, for VETERANS who have served this country and are now eligible for care via the VA. Nice demagogue though. There wasn't a single fact, just a whole bunch of false assumptions in your post.

And yeah, when the government wants to test things on people, one of the first groups they go to is the military or the VA.

Ah yeah, the VA, what a nice organization for the care of Veterans, as we saw during the brown turd Oblummers terms..I wish everyone who got the virus would get better, i wish those who are on their death beds try the medicine that "might" make them better. Unfortunately my wishes dont all come true. Especially when i wish a drunk illegal would T-bone your sorry ass.

 

[Penelope]

Wakes up and immediately starts another day of bombing the boards with fear mongering and TDS.

Must really suck to not have a life and let one man consume your every waking thought.

Wakes up and immediately notes that Donald Trump was WRONG again. Trump spent millions of taxpayer dollars cornering the market on this drug and told everyone to try it, and God help them they did.

Why are you spreading disinformation, you stupid kunt?

Trump did not tell everyone to try it, you lying scumbag.

Do you think disseminating that kind of disinformation is funny? What is your motivation for disseminating dangerous disinformation?

Fuck you. You're despicable.

We have the tape.

You're so stupid that you probably believe that.

Fact: Trump has repeatedly advised Americans to make the decision in consultation with their doctor.


If you were intelligent, you would ask yourself why so many doctors are taking hydroxychloroquine, then research it's mechanism of action.

How many doctors are taking HCQ and supply links?

 

[Camp]

All loyal tea bagger trumpoholics must support Donald Trump no matter how many times he is wrong or how often he gets caught promoting misinformation or even lying. Tea bagging and trumpoholicism are more than a lifestyle, it's equal to religion.

Whoa...another one is off the rails....Buuuaaahahhahahahaha

Tea bagging and trumpoholicism are realities you can't escape by denial. Reality indicates people with these afflictions or emotional and psychological disturbances are the only Americans left supporting a damaged Donald Trump. Republicans are now running ads for Joe Biden. Lots of them. Check youtube for Lincoln Project ads. Tea bagger trumpoholics live in a fantasy world.

How does it feel to learn that the Tea Party kicked your ass and exposed you progs for the human scum that you are?....

You are delusional. The last national election was in 2018. How well did your tea bagger party do? Appears the Dems skimmed 41 of the pond scum losers away in 2018.

yeah, the Democrats all ran on working with the President to make life better for all US citizens. What a bold face lie from those Demoncraps...Oh yea, how many states had to recount over and over? How many establishment Republicrats retired from the swamp, because no one was going to elect them anyway? Scum? Thy name is liberal...

You probably think your post is coherent.

 

[Rambunctious]

All loyal tea bagger trumpoholics must support Donald Trump no matter how many times he is wrong or how often he gets caught promoting misinformation or even lying. Tea bagging and trumpoholicism are more than a lifestyle, it's equal to religion.

Whoa...another one is off the rails....Buuuaaahahhahahahaha

Tea bagging and trumpoholicism are realities you can't escape by denial. Reality indicates people with these afflictions or emotional and psychological disturbances are the only Americans left supporting a damaged Donald Trump. Republicans are now running ads for Joe Biden. Lots of them. Check youtube for Lincoln Project ads. Tea bagger trumpoholics live in a fantasy world.

How does it feel to learn that the Tea Party kicked your ass and exposed you progs for the human scum that you are?....

You are delusional. The last national election was in 2018. How well did your tea bagger party do? Appears the Dems skimmed 41 of the pond scum losers away in 2018.

yeah, the Democrats all ran on working with the President to make life better for all US citizens. What a bold face lie from those Demoncraps...Oh yea, how many states had to recount over and over? How many establishment Republicrats retired from the swamp, because no one was going to elect them anyway? Scum? Thy name is liberal...

You probably think your post is coherent.

You wouldn't know a coherent point if it bit you on your ass...

 

[Camp]

All loyal tea bagger trumpoholics must support Donald Trump no matter how many times he is wrong or how often he gets caught promoting misinformation or even lying. Tea bagging and trumpoholicism are more than a lifestyle, it's equal to religion.

Whoa...another one is off the rails....Buuuaaahahhahahahaha

Tea bagging and trumpoholicism are realities you can't escape by denial. Reality indicates people with these afflictions or emotional and psychological disturbances are the only Americans left supporting a damaged Donald Trump. Republicans are now running ads for Joe Biden. Lots of them. Check youtube for Lincoln Project ads. Tea bagger trumpoholics live in a fantasy world.

How does it feel to learn that the Tea Party kicked your ass and exposed you progs for the human scum that you are?....

You are delusional. The last national election was in 2018. How well did your tea bagger party do? Appears the Dems skimmed 41 of the pond scum losers away in 2018.

The dems stole that election the proof is all over the place....they stole Orange county in CA....this time the feds are watching....

The truth is nowhere but delusions and fantasies of tea bagger trumpoholics. Lets remember, Trump appointed and used government funds with government powers for fully investigating the very claims you are making. It ended with nothing and was disbanded as a complete failure unable to provide a shred of evidence for the lies tea bagger trumpoholics like you continue to promote.