Slade3200
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I'm talking about a hypothetical scenario in the OP, in which I created a situation. Please respond to THAT.The cop followed him around the car. He had more than 1/2 a second. He had a few seconds. There a video you can see it for yourself
And the one I created, does correlate with the Jason Bake shooting. Various things can be said about the seconds before Blake reached into his car. That's not the question. My question only pertains to once he DID reach into that car, and his hands disappeared from the cops' view.
This is the same as the Betty Shelby - Terrence Crutcher shooting case. Crutcher ignored directions. He reached into his vehicle. Hands disappeared. Shelby instantly fired, killing Crutcher. Shelby was cleared in Oklahoma court.. Case was "justifiable homicide", based on correct adherence to police procedure.
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Tulsa officer acquitted in fatal shooting of Terence Crutcher
Betty Shelby, the Tulsa police officer who fatally shot an unarmed black man last year, was found not guilty of first-degree manslaughter.www.cnn.com
The words of Betty Shelby told the story clear to the jury (including 3 black people) >>
Crutcher did not comply with her commands to "show me your hands," she testified. She also said he was sweating heavily and smelled of PCP chemicals.
Crutcher ignored orders from Shelby and another officer on the scene, Tyler Turnbough, according to Shelby's testimony. She testified that Crutcher put his hands on the SUV and moved to reach into the vehicle.
Her police training taught her that "if a suspect reaches their hands inside of a car, don't let them pull them out," she testified.
"We're not trained to see what comes out of a car," Shelby said. "We're trained to stop a threat, and by all indications, he was a threat."
At that point, Shelby fired her weapon and Turnbough fired his Taser, she testified.
The critical point in this video is at 1:05, when Crutcher's body shifts, as he reached into the window of his SUV.
I don’t think a guy running away constitutes a threat. Now if he was aggressively charging at the cops and then reaches into his jacket to pull something out then I could see more of a reason to to shoot, but I’d prefer to non lethal for used as much as possible