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Are you dizzy yet TK? Because your OP is kinda hypocritical here...admit it, it's a fail - you apply different standards to each.
Give it up!
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Are you dizzy yet TK? Because your OP is kinda hypocritical here...admit it, it's a fail - you apply different standards to each.
Give it up!
Nah. You also apply different standards to both. Don't insult my intelligence by lecturing me about hypocrisy.
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Are you dizzy yet TK? Because your OP is kinda hypocritical here...admit it, it's a fail - you apply different standards to each.
Give it up!
Nah. You also apply different standards to both. Don't insult my intelligence by lecturing me about hypocrisy.
You blew it TK. In this thread, I’m applying the same standard. You are not. Just admit it. You are incensed at Biden for not doing something that Trump also did not do.
That is BS, since according to the police both sides instigated violence. Now you are flailing and trying reach outside this thread, you’re better than this.Spin spin spin
Are you dizzy yet TK? Because your OP is kinda hypocritical here...admit it, it's a fail - you apply different standards to each.
Give it up!
Nah. You also apply different standards to both. Don't insult my intelligence by lecturing me about hypocrisy.
You blew it TK. In this thread, I’m applying the same standard. You are not. Just admit it. You are incensed at Biden for not doing something that Trump also did not do.
Look who's moving the goalposts.
Also, I can easily search your comment archive and show examples where you clearly did not apply any standards to Biden whatsoever. Spare me the false righteousness.
"You are incensed at Biden for not doing something that Trump also did not do"
Ah, so you are admitting Biden didn't condemn the violence at the rally. Okay. That's all I need from this exchange.
In this situation, Trump had the moral high ground. He didn't need to condemn the violence being incited by the counterprotesters but he did. There was rare, if any violence being incited by the participants at the rally. Tell me, in the videos, I posted in this thread, which of those being attack instigated it? To my knowledge, maybe one. And even then the evidence of that is inconclusive.
So, why is the onus on Trump to condemn violence when it was being majorly targeted at his supporters?
That is BS, since according to the police both sides instigated violence. Now you are flailing and trying to reach outside this thread, you’re better than this.
Biden condemned all violence at this event through his spokesman.
(Trump was silent.)
You moved the goalposts. Not good enough has to be his own words.
You stated Trump didn’t have to say anything about this event because he had previously condemned the violence.
Biden had also previously condemned violence.
Now we are back to...but Trump doesn’t have to because all the violence was from the other side.
Except the police say differently.
I was glued to Twitter last night. Why? Not because of some cat videos or hilarious fails, no, but because of all the violence I saw in DC last night. I saw almost every video that was posted, whether of couples and parents with children or of minorities and the elderly being attacked by Joe Biden's supporters. All innocent people who came to protest a seemingly stolen election. I watched as nobody on the left condemned this behavior. I watched as law enforcement did literally nothing to stop the violence, instead, Muriel Bowser let our nation's capital become a hellhole.
So I came to one conclusion:
Trump should not cede this country over to people who stand by and allow this kind of violence to continue against innocent people with different viewpoints. If that sentiment scares you, sorry. This may amount to calling for a coup, but I know of no other peaceful way to solve America's issues (if you have any peaceful ways to bridge our seemingly hopeless divide, I'm all ears). The time for being nice and diplomatic has passed. If people like me, who believe what we believe, are going to be engaged in this kind of violent manner, then we should respond in kind. Words have failed. Actions have consequences. These are the sort of things that drive good men to do bad things.
I was an extremist ten years ago. A hard right-wing extremist. I strove to get away from the vile hatred that extremism brought, I wanted to be tolerant and understanding, yes, I have tried my damndest to remain neutral and dispassionate wherever possible. But I cannot stand idly by any longer. I cannot watch as people who hold one particular point of view are attacked and mercilessly destroyed for doing exactly that. No matter how vehemently I try to stand back and turn the other cheek, the words "fight back" and "resist" come to the surface. Those acts of violence posted on Twitter I mentioned earlier? They make my blood boil.
I don't want to be your enemy. But if you insist on treating me as one, I will be the worst enemy you can possibly imagine. I come from an era where respect is earned, not given. Don't mistake my reticence for weakness. It is for your protection. I don't care about your feelings or emotions, I have enough trouble dealing with mine. I am not incapable of exercising empathy, but I am also capable of being colder than the vacuum of space. Do not try me. Do not give me an excuse to be.
I am happy to be your friend. But I will not be disrespected or maligned. My ideas and opinions are my own. I have a right to believe what I believe. But know this: my empathy for you will stop the moment you attempt to deprive me of those things, or if you try to dehumanize me for having them. My faith in humanity at this point is gone. Gone. Don't give me another reason to justify that sentiment.
My perception has changed. I will not acknowledge Biden as our president, not because I think he stole the election, but because he will allow the same behavior we saw last night in Washington DC to spread throughout this country, while he eschews empty calls for "unity" and "healing." His condemnations of the violence will ultimately be hollow and empty.
I am not fooled. I will defy this trend. I will stand up for what I believe in.
So what exactly is it you won’t stand idly for? A principle that is not internally consistent.
Trump supporters attacked and viciously assaulted while trying to leave DC rally.
VIDEO: Trump supporters attacked while leaving rally in DC
Social media lit up on Saturday with videos from the pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies in Washington, D. C. The violence was caught on camera as supporters were trying to leave their respective rallies. Caution, this video may disturb some viewers. Viewer discretion is advised. The video shows...abc3340.com
Fans of corrupt Joe Biden joke about the innocent people being beaten to the ground and then stomped.
Any DC police there to stop the mayhem? Apparently none that would bother to stop the violence.
I thought this stuff only happened in dysfunctional third world places.
Welcome to the third world way of life brought to you by Biden, Antifa and the leftist cowards
that make light of this all.
I used to think talk of a Civil War was all hyperbole. Now I'm not so sure.
So what exactly is it you won’t stand idly for? A principle that is not internally consistent.
Don't psychoanalyze me, Coyote. You haven't the right.
I won't stand idly by while people supporting ideas and opinions contrary to a liberal mindset are assaulted and accosted for doing those things.
So brave.
I was glued to Twitter last night. Why? Not because of some cat videos or hilarious fails, no, but because of all the violence I saw in DC last night. I saw almost every video that was posted, whether of couples and parents with children or of minorities and the elderly being attacked by Joe Biden's supporters. All innocent people who came to protest a seemingly stolen election. I watched as nobody on the left condemned this behavior. I watched as law enforcement did literally nothing to stop the violence, instead, Muriel Bowser let our nation's capital become a hellhole.
So I came to one conclusion:
Trump should not cede this country over to people who stand by and allow this kind of violence to continue against innocent people with different viewpoints. If that sentiment scares you, sorry. This may amount to calling for a coup, but I know of no other peaceful way to solve America's issues (if you have any peaceful ways to bridge our seemingly hopeless divide, I'm all ears). The time for being nice and diplomatic has passed. If people like me, who believe what we believe, are going to be engaged in this kind of violent manner, then we should respond in kind. Words have failed. Actions have consequences. These are the sort of things that drive good men to do bad things.
I was an extremist ten years ago. A hard right-wing extremist. I strove to get away from the vile hatred that extremism brought, I wanted to be tolerant and understanding, yes, I have tried my damndest to remain neutral and dispassionate wherever possible. But I cannot stand idly by any longer. I cannot watch as people who hold one particular point of view are attacked and mercilessly destroyed for doing exactly that. No matter how vehemently I try to stand back and turn the other cheek, the words "fight back" and "resist" come to the surface. Those acts of violence posted on Twitter I mentioned earlier? They make my blood boil.
I don't want to be your enemy. But if you insist on treating me as one, I will be the worst enemy you can possibly imagine. I come from an era where respect is earned, not given. Don't mistake my reticence for weakness. It is for your protection. I don't care about your feelings or emotions, I have enough trouble dealing with mine. I am not incapable of exercising empathy, but I am also capable of being colder than the vacuum of space. Do not try me. Do not give me an excuse to be.
I am happy to be your friend. But I will not be disrespected or maligned. My ideas and opinions are my own. I have a right to believe what I believe. But know this: my empathy for you will stop the moment you attempt to deprive me of those things, or if you try to dehumanize me for having them. My faith in humanity at this point is gone. Gone. Don't give me another reason to justify that sentiment.
My perception has changed. I will not acknowledge Biden as our president, not because I think he stole the election, but because he will allow the same behavior we saw last night in Washington DC to spread throughout this country, while he eschews empty calls for "unity" and "healing." His condemnations of the violence will ultimately be hollow and empty.
I am not fooled. I will defy this trend. I will stand up for what I believe in.
So you're insisting that Trump should commit a coup. That he should simply seize power.
I’m not psychanalyzing anything. I am pointing out that if you are outraged at Biden, you ought to be at Trump as well.So what exactly is it you won’t stand idly for? A principle that is not internally consistent.
Don't psychoanalyze me, Coyote. You haven't the right.
I won't stand idly by while people supporting ideas and opinions contrary to a liberal mindset are assaulted and accosted for doing those things.
I was glued to Twitter last night. Why? Not because of some cat videos or hilarious fails, no, but because of all the violence I saw in DC last night. I saw almost every video that was posted, whether of couples and parents with children or of minorities and the elderly being attacked by Joe Biden's supporters. All innocent people who came to protest a seemingly stolen election. I watched as nobody on the left condemned this behavior. I watched as law enforcement did literally nothing to stop the violence, instead, Muriel Bowser let our nation's capital become a hellhole.
So I came to one conclusion:
Trump should not cede this country over to people who stand by and allow this kind of violence to continue against innocent people with different viewpoints. If that sentiment scares you, sorry. This may amount to calling for a coup, but I know of no other peaceful way to solve America's issues (if you have any peaceful ways to bridge our seemingly hopeless divide, I'm all ears). The time for being nice and diplomatic has passed. If people like me, who believe what we believe, are going to be engaged in this kind of violent manner, then we should respond in kind. Words have failed. Actions have consequences. These are the sort of things that drive good men to do bad things.
I was an extremist ten years ago. A hard right-wing extremist. I strove to get away from the vile hatred that extremism brought, I wanted to be tolerant and understanding, yes, I have tried my damndest to remain neutral and dispassionate wherever possible. But I cannot stand idly by any longer. I cannot watch as people who hold one particular point of view are attacked and mercilessly destroyed for doing exactly that. No matter how vehemently I try to stand back and turn the other cheek, the words "fight back" and "resist" come to the surface. Those acts of violence posted on Twitter I mentioned earlier? They make my blood boil.
I don't want to be your enemy. But if you insist on treating me as one, I will be the worst enemy you can possibly imagine. I come from an era where respect is earned, not given. Don't mistake my reticence for weakness. It is for your protection. I don't care about your feelings or emotions, I have enough trouble dealing with mine. I am not incapable of exercising empathy, but I am also capable of being colder than the vacuum of space. Do not try me. Do not give me an excuse to be.
I am happy to be your friend. But I will not be disrespected or maligned. My ideas and opinions are my own. I have a right to believe what I believe. But know this: my empathy for you will stop the moment you attempt to deprive me of those things, or if you try to dehumanize me for having them. My faith in humanity at this point is gone. Gone. Don't give me another reason to justify that sentiment.
My perception has changed. I will not acknowledge Biden as our president, not because I think he stole the election, but because he will allow the same behavior we saw last night in Washington DC to spread throughout this country, while he eschews empty calls for "unity" and "healing." His condemnations of the violence will ultimately be hollow and empty.
I am not fooled. I will defy this trend. I will stand up for what I believe in.
So you're insisting that Trump should commit a coup. That he should simply seize power.
Of course. I spent a decade trying to become more moderate, from the neo-conservative I once was. I hoped this day would never come. Never. Ten years I tried to. Because I was enjoying being objective and fair-minded-- because that's what everyone should strive to be. But I have realized that being fair and objective does not win fights. Turning the other cheek does not garner respect. It lets other people step all over you. Playing the same game stops that.
And more to your question:
If you are aiming to fundamentally change the structure of our government... packing the court, for example. They are seeking to silence an entire political faction. I refuse to allow it. If Trump can stop that, so be it. The structure of our government is sacrosanct. Democrats want to radically alter it. If refusing to cede power is what it takes to preserve our sacred institutions, so be it.
If that makes me a pariah, then also, so be it.
I’m not psychoanalyzing anything. I am pointing out that if you are outraged at Biden, you ought to be at Trump as well.
As far as 'packing the court' is concerned, how is that fundamentally different than what happened with Merrick Garland? Republicans used a technically constitutional tool to swing the court the way they wanted. It is a power the Senate possessed by the constitution.
So is changing the number of supreme court justices. If abuse of procedural power is egregious enough to overthrow the government......then republicans would have been at the top of your list since 2016.
As far as 'packing the court' is concerned, how is that fundamentally different than what happened with Merrick Garland? Republicans used a technically constitutional tool to swing the court the way they wanted. It is a power the Senate possessed by the constitution.
Merrick Garland was not an attempt to pack the court. He was an attempt to fill a vacancy. The Senate acted well within its rights. Democrats when or if they take control of the Senate can just as easily engage in the same actions. I won't protest.
So is changing the number of supreme court justices. If abuse of procedural power is egregious enough to overthrow the government......then republicans would have been at the top of your list since 2016.
That statement reeks of personal bias.
Merrick Garland was the partisan senate refusing to vote on a president's pick in order to prevent the president for excercising his consstitutional authority to nominate justices. And it was within the power of the Senate to do so.
Adding more justices to the Supreme court is also within the power to Senate. Even a partisan one. It is explicitly articulated authority of the Senate in the constitution.
Both are constitutional. Why then would one be an egregious abuse of power worthy of a coup and the other something you're apparently fine with?
So is changing the number of supreme court justices. If abuse of procedural power is egregious enough to overthrow the government......then republicans would have been at the top of your list since 2016.
That statement reeks of personal bias.
As does the OP. What's your point?
Notice you don't actually address the point. You merely ignore it. That doesn't speak of any degree of objectivity or impartiality. Merely your own personal biases.
Which is fine, of course. None of are blank canvases.
