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When you have to redefine something to get your way, your not on the right side of history. You're just a petulant 3 year old throwing a tantrum.Same sex couples cannot procreate is the intelligent design of anti-gay marriage arguments.
You're on the wrong side o' history, Mal.
I almost feel bad for people like you.
When you have to redefine something to get your way, your not on the right side of history. You're just a petulant 3 year old throwing a tantrum.
More projection from the losing side of this issue.
Sucks to be you guys.
Because the Court may agree with you... And the Media says that what happened in California when Obama was Elected wasn't Real...
Doesn't mean you are Right.
The Majority of Americans agreed with the Court in Dred Scott.
Didn't make it Right.
This is where you and yours are ***** A15...
I have been FOR Civil Unions and Denying NONE of the Benefits and Privileges to Homosexuals for 20 years.
Feel sorry for this you Dishonest Twat.
Fucking Liberals are the Worst when they have already Assumed Victory.
If the Court Rules Against them, wait and watch for the Meltdown.
If the Court Rules Absurdly that Homosexual Coupling and Heterosexual Coupling are Equal I will move on with my Life.
peace...
Your argument is that procreation is the basis for marriage. If homosexuals can't marry because they are unable to procreate, why should heterosexuals who are also unable to procreate be allowed to marry?
The Possibily ONLY Exists with Heterosexuals.
It NEVER Exists with Homosexuals and they are Designed and Equipped to do it.
Their Defiance of it is NOT Society's Burden.
Nor should those who are not Deliberately Defying it be Punished for the Potential of not being Fertile or even Trying to have Kids simply because Homosexuals are Butthurt about not getting a False Validation from a Society that won't Embrace them.
Petulant Brats you Activists are.
Seriously... The Closer you Feel you are to Victory for this Absurdity the more and more you are Acting like Children.
peace...
I asked a simple question and you mostly ranted.
Cutting through your rant, your answer appears to be that the possibility exists only for heterosexuals. That is simply not true for all heterosexuals. Women of a certain age are unable to procreate. Some men are sterile. My mother is a twin. Because of the way the embryo separated at birth, she was physically unable to procreate, so my parents adopted.
So if procreation is the basis of marriage as you claim, our marriage laws discriminate against some people and not others.
A Black Woman and White Man have always been able Create Life...
Same Sex Couples?... Never.
Stop Molesting an Honest Civil Rights Movement and find your own Validation.
peace...
Your argument is that procreation is the basis for marriage. If homosexuals can't marry because they are unable to procreate, why should heterosexuals who are also unable to procreate be allowed to marry?
The Possibily ONLY Exists with Heterosexuals.
It NEVER Exists with Homosexuals and they are Designed and Equipped to do it.
Their Defiance of it is NOT Society's Burden.
Nor should those who are not Deliberately Defying it be Punished for the Potential of not being Fertile or even Trying to have Kids simply because Homosexuals are Butthurt about not getting a False Validation from a Society that won't Embrace them.
Petulant Brats you Activists are.
Seriously... The Closer you Feel you are to Victory for this Absurdity the more and more you are Acting like Children.
peace...
More projection from the losing side of this issue.
Sucks to be you guys.
Because the Court may agree with you... And the Media says that what happened in California when Obama was Elected wasn't Real...
Doesn't mean you are Right.
The Majority of Americans agreed with the Court in Dred Scott.
Didn't make it Right.
This is where you and yours are ***** A15...
I have been FOR Civil Unions and Denying NONE of the Benefits and Privileges to Homosexuals for 20 years.
Feel sorry for this you Dishonest Twat.
Fucking Liberals are the Worst when they have already Assumed Victory.
If the Court Rules Against them, wait and watch for the Meltdown.
If the Court Rules Absurdly that Homosexual Coupling and Heterosexual Coupling are Equal I will move on with my Life.
peace...
Your position can be summed up in a much more tidy manner: Separate but equal
Your argument is that procreation is the basis for marriage. If homosexuals can't marry because they are unable to procreate, why should heterosexuals who are also unable to procreate be allowed to marry?
The Possibily ONLY Exists with Heterosexuals.
It NEVER Exists with Homosexuals and they are Designed and Equipped to do it.
Their Defiance of it is NOT Society's Burden.
Nor should those who are not Deliberately Defying it be Punished for the Potential of not being Fertile or even Trying to have Kids simply because Homosexuals are Butthurt about not getting a False Validation from a Society that won't Embrace them.
Petulant Brats you Activists are.
Seriously... The Closer you Feel you are to Victory for this Absurdity the more and more you are Acting like Children.
peace...
Nowhere in any US law at any level of government is there a marriage law that requires the couple to possess the 'possibility' of having children in order to qualify for a legal marriage.
That is a concept invented out of thin air by people like youself.
The Possibily ONLY Exists with Heterosexuals.
It NEVER Exists with Homosexuals and they are Designed and Equipped to do it.
Their Defiance of it is NOT Society's Burden.
Nor should those who are not Deliberately Defying it be Punished for the Potential of not being Fertile or even Trying to have Kids simply because Homosexuals are Butthurt about not getting a False Validation from a Society that won't Embrace them.
Petulant Brats you Activists are.
Seriously... The Closer you Feel you are to Victory for this Absurdity the more and more you are Acting like Children.
peace...
I asked a simple question and you mostly ranted.
Cutting through your rant, your answer appears to be that the possibility exists only for heterosexuals. That is simply not true for all heterosexuals. Women of a certain age are unable to procreate. Some men are sterile. My mother is a twin. Because of the way the embryo separated at birth, she was physically unable to procreate, so my parents adopted.
So if procreation is the basis of marriage as you claim, our marriage laws discriminate against some people and not others.
It only EVER Exists with Heterosexuals... Homosexuals are ALL Designed and Equipped to Couple with the Opposite Sex barring Physical Defect...
Their Defiance is NOT Society's Burden it is Inherently, Naturally, Physically, Biologically and Facutally Unequal to that which Created them
This information I am giving you is not up for Debate.
Petulant Babies you Activist are Acting when you get this way.
peace...
I have Advocated for Civil Unions for 20 years...
And here's a reality, Liberal California Voted AGAINST Gay Marriage at the same time they Voted FOR Obama... Not a Generation has gone by, not even close, and suddenly Liberal California and the rest of the Country is Pro-Gay Marriage?... I don't think so.
This is an Activist Network doing this... From ABC, MSNBC, CBS, NPR, the NYT Pop Culture and number of other people including Academics and they do NOT Represent America...
I will give this up... The Christian Right is Responsible for this... Had they not Fought Civil Unions they would not be faced with Gay Marriage right now... That was REALLY stupid and I told them as much over the years.
Marriage is Unique and by it's very Existence is a reflection of what has Created all of us...
One Man and One Woman.
And EVERY single Human is Designed by Nature and Equipped for this Purpose.
Why a small percentage Defy that Design and Equipment is Irrelevant until it becomes a Burden on Society.
But this is a Fact... Individuals, Gay, Straight or Bisexual, have ALL of the same Individual Rights...
But when they come together in Pairs or any other number, they do not.
One Union... One Coupling is Distinct... One Man and One Woman is why we are ALL here it and it has taken and will always take One Man and One Woman for us to continue to be here.
In that the Unions are Inherently and Naturally NOT Equal... Doesn't mean that one is better than the other, but the differences are so Fundamentally Distinct that to deny them is to deny Reality.
I Support Civil Unions for all other than One Man and One Woman.
Thank you for your time.
peace...
The Possibily ONLY Exists with Heterosexuals.
It NEVER Exists with Homosexuals and they are Designed and Equipped to do it.
Their Defiance of it is NOT Society's Burden.
Nor should those who are not Deliberately Defying it be Punished for the Potential of not being Fertile or even Trying to have Kids simply because Homosexuals are Butthurt about not getting a False Validation from a Society that won't Embrace them.
Petulant Brats you Activists are.
Seriously... The Closer you Feel you are to Victory for this Absurdity the more and more you are Acting like Children.
peace...
Nowhere in any US law at any level of government is there a marriage law that requires the couple to possess the 'possibility' of having children in order to qualify for a legal marriage.
That is a concept invented out of thin air by people like youself.
And you are Advocating for Siblings to Marry... Thanks.
peace...
Because the Court may agree with you... And the Media says that what happened in California when Obama was Elected wasn't Real...
Doesn't mean you are Right.
The Majority of Americans agreed with the Court in Dred Scott.
Didn't make it Right.
This is where you and yours are ***** A15...
I have been FOR Civil Unions and Denying NONE of the Benefits and Privileges to Homosexuals for 20 years.
Feel sorry for this you Dishonest Twat.
Fucking Liberals are the Worst when they have already Assumed Victory.
If the Court Rules Against them, wait and watch for the Meltdown.
If the Court Rules Absurdly that Homosexual Coupling and Heterosexual Coupling are Equal I will move on with my Life.
peace...
Your position can be summed up in a much more tidy manner: Separate but equal
Individuals are Equal.
Homosexual Coupling and Heterosexual Coupling... Not Equal.
This if Fact not Fiction.
One Creates Life... The other does not... All are Designed and Equipped for it.
The Defiance is not Society's Burden.
peace...
The concern is that redefining marriage as a genderless institution will sever its abiding connection to its historic traditional procreative purposes, and it will refocus the purpose of marriage and the definition of marriage away from the raising of children and to the emotional needs and desires of adults," Cooper said.
Justice Elena Kagan, an appointee of President Barack Obama, pressed Cooper on that argument, asking him why then the government could not bar couples who are both over the age of 55 from marrying, on the assumption that they are infertile.
Cooper replied that it would violate the Constitution to ban older people from marrying.
"Your Honor, even with respect to couples over the age of 55, it is very rare that both couplesboth parties to the couple are infertile," Cooper began, before he was interrupted by the audience in the courtroom erupting into laughter.
"I can just assure you, if both the woman and the man are over the age of 55, there are not a lot of children coming out of that marriage," Kagan retorted, provoking more laughter.
Justice Antonin Scalia jumped into the fray, joking that "Strom Thurmond was not the chairman of the Senate committee when Justice Kagan was confirmed."
Thurmond, the late South Carolina Republican senator, fathered children well into his 70s with his decades-younger wife. Kagan pointed out that in her hypothetical, both members of the couple would be over 55, not just the man.
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg also cast doubt on the procreation aspect of Cooper's argument, reminding him that the Supreme Court has ruled in the past that prisoners have a right to marry even if they are locked up and unable to procreate with their new spouse. Cooper replied that even in that case, the prison was a co-ed facility and it's possible the prisoner would have had children.
Quit whining, asshole.When you have to redefine something to get your way, your not on the right side of history. You're just a petulant 3 year old throwing a tantrum.Same sex couples cannot procreate is the intelligent design of anti-gay marriage arguments.
You're on the wrong side o' history, Mal.
I almost feel bad for people like you.
More projection from the losing side of this issue.
Sucks to be you guys.
Nowhere in any US law at any level of government is there a marriage law that requires the couple to possess the 'possibility' of having children in order to qualify for a legal marriage.
That is a concept invented out of thin air by people like youself.
And you are Advocating for Siblings to Marry... Thanks.
peace...
Where did that come from? Oh right, that came from someone who didn't have an intelligent response.
Show us in the law where the ability to reproduce is a requirement for legal opposite sex marriage.
SHOW US ONE LAW IN THE U.S.
If under the law,
civil opposite sex marriage and civil same sex unions are the same,
only an irrational person would demand that they have two different names.
The rational solution is to either call all of them marriages or call all of them civil unions;
if the latter, then let the marriages be a non-governmental arrangement done in churches or wherever.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I've got no problem with Civil Unions...if it is what everyone gets, gay or straight. Seems an awfully inefficient way to grant gays and lesbians the same rights, but at least you aren't filling in the pool completely.
And you are Advocating for Siblings to Marry... Thanks.
peace...
Where did that come from? Oh right, that came from someone who didn't have an intelligent response.
Show us in the law where the ability to reproduce is a requirement for legal opposite sex marriage.
SHOW US ONE LAW IN THE U.S.
No offense, but who the hell cares what you think or what the government thinks about matters of sex?
Why are you people so fixated on giving certain "rights" to people who engage in certain kinds of sex and not to others who don't fit your utopian ideal or who may wish to remain celebate?
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I've got no problem with Civil Unions...if it is what everyone gets, gay or straight. Seems an awfully inefficient way to grant gays and lesbians the same rights, but at least you aren't filling in the pool completely.
The anti-gay bigots who want to cling to the word 'marriage' as their own, and deny it to gays, are doing so for the sake of symbolism;
they believe that the same sex union is inferior to the opposite sex union, and therefore only the latter has the right to the 'sacred' word,
marriage. By denying the use of the word to gays, they can symbolically perpetuate that belief.
