I have experiences leading me to believe there is a God

[K9Buck]

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Because science isn't pretending to believe in an invisible superbeing that lives in another dimension that no one has ever seen?

The science points to a creator. Feel free to show us how everything came from nothing.

Never said everything came from nothing....[/QUOTE]

No, you don't say anything. You just troll with idiotic remarks.

 

[Mudda]

Where's your "proof" that everything came from nothing? Cue the **** act.

The point here seems to be there are two sides.

One says "we don't know what happened, there are many possibilities" and the other says "God made it".

OK, were did GOD come from, then? That would tidy up the issue.

Will it? I doubt that.

God was designed by an intelligent being.

Who, and who created the creator of God?

It was my idea, so ME!!!

 

[Mudda]

Where's your "proof" that everything came from nothing? Cue the **** act.

The point here seems to be there are two sides.

One says "we don't know what happened, there are many possibilities" and the other says "God made it".

OK, were did GOD come from, then? That would tidy up the issue.

Here's one.

For years, I had been suffering deep, dark, depression, a total sense of hopelessness that made me want to die. I wouldn't kill myself, but I desperately wanted to die.

One day, after I had lost a job, I got down on my knees and desperately prayed to God to release me of my depression. It wasn't like a casual prayer, it was a total prayer, from deep in my soul, a prayer of total desperation because I had reached the end of my rope.

At the next moment, the depression was lifted, and I felt my soul liberated in a way I had never felt before.

Since that day, I have had problems, but I have never suffered the kind of deep depression and hopelessness that I had felt before.

If you look on YouTube you can also find many people sharing their "near-death" experiences wherein they claim to have been to the other side.

The brain doesn't die immediately when the heart stops pumping, otherwise people could never get revived. People could be simply dreaming.

I have been personally acquainted with two people who both claimed to have died, visited the other side and returned. One was woman who, as a girl, nearly died. She said she could see the surgeon operating on her and that he said "I've never lost a child before and I'm not going to start today!" She then said she met Jesus and was told she would be ok. She fully recovered. I said to her "It must have really strengthened your faith". She responded "It's not faith, it's FACT!".

I knew another woman, a low-key accountant that kept mostly to herself. In the course of conversation I learned that she nearly died during childbirth. I asked her if she had an NDE. She said she did. She said she knew she was "dead" but had total peace and was ok with it until she thought that her baby would grow up without a mother and then she was revived.

There are countless others, certainly way too many to discount as a lie, dream, etc.

Nothing of what you described points to a creator. The brain is a powerful thing, like I said, it could be your brain releasing compounds to relax you...

 

[Mudda]

The brain doesn't die immediately when the heart stops pumping, otherwise people could never get revived. People could be simply dreaming.

Could be. However, dreams generally fade over time. Near Death Experiences seem to do the opposite. Dreams seem less real than actual life; Near Death Experiences seem to be more real than life. Dreams seldom educate, yet Near Death Experiences usually do.

Is it usual for dying organisms to become stronger than they ever were?

You'll need some proper links to back up what appears to be nonsense.

 

[K9Buck]

The point here seems to be there are two sides.

One says "we don't know what happened, there are many possibilities" and the other says "God made it".

OK, were did GOD come from, then? That would tidy up the issue.

Here's one.

For years, I had been suffering deep, dark, depression, a total sense of hopelessness that made me want to die. I wouldn't kill myself, but I desperately wanted to die.

One day, after I had lost a job, I got down on my knees and desperately prayed to God to release me of my depression. It wasn't like a casual prayer, it was a total prayer, from deep in my soul, a prayer of total desperation because I had reached the end of my rope.

At the next moment, the depression was lifted, and I felt my soul liberated in a way I had never felt before.

Since that day, I have had problems, but I have never suffered the kind of deep depression and hopelessness that I had felt before.

If you look on YouTube you can also find many people sharing their "near-death" experiences wherein they claim to have been to the other side.

The brain doesn't die immediately when the heart stops pumping, otherwise people could never get revived. People could be simply dreaming.

I have been personally acquainted with two people who both claimed to have died, visited the other side and returned. One was woman who, as a girl, nearly died. She said she could see the surgeon operating on her and that he said "I've never lost a child before and I'm not going to start today!" She then said she met Jesus and was told she would be ok. She fully recovered. I said to her "It must have really strengthened your faith". She responded "It's not faith, it's FACT!".

I knew another woman, a low-key accountant that kept mostly to herself. In the course of conversation I learned that she nearly died during childbirth. I asked her if she had an NDE. She said she did. She said she knew she was "dead" but had total peace and was ok with it until she thought that her baby would grow up without a mother and then she was revived.

There are countless others, certainly way too many to discount as a lie, dream, etc.

Nothing of what you described points to a creator. The brain is a powerful thing, like I said, it could be your brain releasing compounds to relax you...

It seems that you cling to the ABG theory.

 

[Mudda]

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Learning is cool, but I never needed an invisible friend to learn.

Obviously, you do.

Why? Will my invisible friend help me see my invisible friend?

You're ignorant and act like a twat.[/QUOTE]
I'm ignorant? Says the guy would has no proof of what he says. ZERO.

 

[Mudda]

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Because science isn't pretending to believe in an invisible superbeing that lives in another dimension that no one has ever seen?

The science points to a creator. Feel free to show us how everything came from nothing.

Never said everything came from nothing....

No, you don't say anything. You just troll with idiotic remarks.[/QUOTE]
Science is still searching for answers. Maybe they should come to you, since you pretend to know everything about the universe.

 

[Mudda]

OK, were did GOD come from, then? That would tidy up the issue.

Here's one.

For years, I had been suffering deep, dark, depression, a total sense of hopelessness that made me want to die. I wouldn't kill myself, but I desperately wanted to die.

One day, after I had lost a job, I got down on my knees and desperately prayed to God to release me of my depression. It wasn't like a casual prayer, it was a total prayer, from deep in my soul, a prayer of total desperation because I had reached the end of my rope.

At the next moment, the depression was lifted, and I felt my soul liberated in a way I had never felt before.

Since that day, I have had problems, but I have never suffered the kind of deep depression and hopelessness that I had felt before.

If you look on YouTube you can also find many people sharing their "near-death" experiences wherein they claim to have been to the other side.

The brain doesn't die immediately when the heart stops pumping, otherwise people could never get revived. People could be simply dreaming.

I have been personally acquainted with two people who both claimed to have died, visited the other side and returned. One was woman who, as a girl, nearly died. She said she could see the surgeon operating on her and that he said "I've never lost a child before and I'm not going to start today!" She then said she met Jesus and was told she would be ok. She fully recovered. I said to her "It must have really strengthened your faith". She responded "It's not faith, it's FACT!".

I knew another woman, a low-key accountant that kept mostly to herself. In the course of conversation I learned that she nearly died during childbirth. I asked her if she had an NDE. She said she did. She said she knew she was "dead" but had total peace and was ok with it until she thought that her baby would grow up without a mother and then she was revived.

There are countless others, certainly way too many to discount as a lie, dream, etc.

Nothing of what you described points to a creator. The brain is a powerful thing, like I said, it could be your brain releasing compounds to relax you...

It seems that you cling to the ABG theory.

What's that?

 

[K9Buck]

If you look on YouTube you can also find many people sharing their "near-death" experiences wherein they claim to have been to the other side.

The brain doesn't die immediately when the heart stops pumping, otherwise people could never get revived. People could be simply dreaming.

I have been personally acquainted with two people who both claimed to have died, visited the other side and returned. One was woman who, as a girl, nearly died. She said she could see the surgeon operating on her and that he said "I've never lost a child before and I'm not going to start today!" She then said she met Jesus and was told she would be ok. She fully recovered. I said to her "It must have really strengthened your faith". She responded "It's not faith, it's FACT!".

I knew another woman, a low-key accountant that kept mostly to herself. In the course of conversation I learned that she nearly died during childbirth. I asked her if she had an NDE. She said she did. She said she knew she was "dead" but had total peace and was ok with it until she thought that her baby would grow up without a mother and then she was revived.

There are countless others, certainly way too many to discount as a lie, dream, etc.

Nothing of what you described points to a creator. The brain is a powerful thing, like I said, it could be your brain releasing compounds to relax you...

It seems that you cling to the ABG theory.

What's that?

Anything But God.

 

[K9Buck]

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Because science isn't pretending to believe in an invisible superbeing that lives in another dimension that no one has ever seen?

The science points to a creator. Feel free to show us how everything came from nothing.

Never said everything came from nothing....

No, you don't say anything. You just troll with idiotic remarks.

Science is still searching for answers. Maybe they should come to you, since you pretend to know everything about the universe.[/QUOTE]

I obviously know more than you, but that's not saying much. There's no sense in arguing with a fool. Good bye.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The point here seems to be there are two sides.

One says "we don't know what happened, there are many possibilities" and the other says "God made it".

OK, were did GOD come from, then? That would tidy up the issue.

Will it? I doubt that.

God was designed by an intelligent being.

Who, and who created the creator of God?

It was my idea, so ME!!!

So, who created you?

 

[Mudda]

The brain doesn't die immediately when the heart stops pumping, otherwise people could never get revived. People could be simply dreaming.

I have been personally acquainted with two people who both claimed to have died, visited the other side and returned. One was woman who, as a girl, nearly died. She said she could see the surgeon operating on her and that he said "I've never lost a child before and I'm not going to start today!" She then said she met Jesus and was told she would be ok. She fully recovered. I said to her "It must have really strengthened your faith". She responded "It's not faith, it's FACT!".

I knew another woman, a low-key accountant that kept mostly to herself. In the course of conversation I learned that she nearly died during childbirth. I asked her if she had an NDE. She said she did. She said she knew she was "dead" but had total peace and was ok with it until she thought that her baby would grow up without a mother and then she was revived.

There are countless others, certainly way too many to discount as a lie, dream, etc.

Nothing of what you described points to a creator. The brain is a powerful thing, like I said, it could be your brain releasing compounds to relax you...

It seems that you cling to the ABG theory.

What's that?

Anything But God.

No, read my signature.

 

[Mudda]

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Because science isn't pretending to believe in an invisible superbeing that lives in another dimension that no one has ever seen?

The science points to a creator. Feel free to show us how everything came from nothing.

Never said everything came from nothing....

No, you don't say anything. You just troll with idiotic remarks.

Science is still searching for answers. Maybe they should come to you, since you pretend to know everything about the universe.

I obviously know more than you, but that's not saying much. There's no sense in arguing with a fool. Good bye.[/QUOTE]
If you ever get any real proof of what you're proposing, I'll be here waiting.

 

[Mudda]

OK, were did GOD come from, then? That would tidy up the issue.

Will it? I doubt that.

God was designed by an intelligent being.

Who, and who created the creator of God?

It was my idea, so ME!!!

So, who created you?

 

[Meriweather]

You'll need some proper links to back up what appears to be nonsense.

NDE links have already been provided. I was responding to your thought NDE's are perhaps dreams. I was noting differences between dreams and NDE's.

 

[Mudda]

You'll need some proper links to back up what appears to be nonsense.

NDE links have already been provided. I was responding to your thought NDE's are perhaps dreams. I was noting differences between dreams and NDE's.

So provide the links or you have nothing.

 

[BreezeWood]

Since everything that became the universe has always existed in one state or another, given enough time, do you think it is possible for some force throughout the universe to have become self aware, a living being whose existence is both absolute and intrinsic to reality and the only source of all life in the universe?

At some point, something HAD to create physical nature because it exists and it hasn't always existed.

I agree with hobe till Boss is able to make something physical no longer to exist in any form ...

do you think it is possible for some force throughout the universe to have become self aware, a living being whose existence is both absolute and intrinsic to reality and the only source of all life in the universe?

why make the "force" into a living being why not from the force a Spirit evolves and is given a physiology for it to evolve further or parish. and why not other forces than a single source of "all" life as other forms of life may also exist.

 

[BreezeWood]

The brain doesn't die immediately when the heart stops pumping, otherwise people could never get revived. People could be simply dreaming.

Could be. However, dreams generally fade over time. Near Death Experiences seem to do the opposite. Dreams seem less real than actual life; Near Death Experiences seem to be more real than life. Dreams seldom educate, yet Near Death Experiences usually do.

Is it usual for dying organisms to become stronger than they ever were?

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Dreams seem less real than actual life; Near Death Experiences seem to be more real than life.

I have some occasionally that are disturbingly real life experiences, not sure what makes the difference but that may be the same they experience at NDE - somehow there is a different involvement. again if it is not audible by all participants it is not real.

 

[BreezeWood]

I hate it when idiots say we reject god. No we don't. He would have to exist and I would have to then reject him. I simply reject your stories. No God to reject.

Like everything in the universe, the universe itself had a beginning. Prior to the universe there was NO universe nor was there such a thing as time. Something or, someone outside of the universe had to get it all started. That would be our creator. Perhaps you subscribe to the belief that everything came from nothing. I'd like to believe that too, I just don't have the faith.

Time didnt exist before our universe? Are you sure? Wow! You're the smartest person on the planet then.

Then god didn't exist before our universe.

Actually we are only about a million years old so god was born when humans invented him probably 500,000 years ago in a cave

Did the universe have a beginning? Time began at the moment of the "Big Bang". Feel free to offer a counter-argument.

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Did the universe have a beginning? Time began at the moment of the "Big Bang". Feel free to offer a counter-argument.

BB is cyclical ...

 

[Meriweather]

So provide the links or you have nothing.

You observed Near Death Experiences were like dreams. I observed three ways where they seem to differ from dreams. Do you need a link back to the post where I made these observations?