I miss Trump

[Bobob]

At least he answered questions. Biden just hit us with a stupid partisan stimulus bill. You can see here why its stupid and none of the leftists here have been able to argue the counterpoint.

Stupidity of the Democrats and their $1.927 Trillion Bill

You cannot get any dumber. Honestly...approx 300mil people will receive $1,400 but will owe $5,839 for the $1,400....LOL Math is as follows: $422bil of the stimulus is the $1,400 per person so that results in ~301.5 mil people getting it. Now the entire Bill is $1.927Trn...divide that by the...

www.usmessageboard.com

But why won't Biden take tough questions on both the stimulus and the crisis at the border?

Love or hate Trump or tolerate only, Trump always took questions. Combative? Yes. Answered them? Yes.

Biden not yet holding a formal news conference raises accountability questions

The White House still hasn't set a date for President Joe Biden to hold his first news conference.

abcnews.go.com

Combative, yes. Answered questions? Kind of in a way but usually not accurately
and walked off or insulted the questioner and then left. Nah

 

[22lcidw]

At least he answered questions. Biden just hit us with a stupid partisan stimulus bill. You can see here why its stupid and none of the leftists here have been able to argue the counterpoint.

Stupidity of the Democrats and their $1.927 Trillion Bill

You cannot get any dumber. Honestly...approx 300mil people will receive $1,400 but will owe $5,839 for the $1,400....LOL Math is as follows: $422bil of the stimulus is the $1,400 per person so that results in ~301.5 mil people getting it. Now the entire Bill is $1.927Trn...divide that by the...

www.usmessageboard.com

But why won't Biden take tough questions on both the stimulus and the crisis at the border?

Love or hate Trump or tolerate only, Trump always took questions. Combative? Yes. Answered them? Yes.

Biden not yet holding a formal news conference raises accountability questions

The White House still hasn't set a date for President Joe Biden to hold his first news conference.

abcnews.go.com

I will argue a counterpoint if you’d like... you are implying that a new tax will be applied and taken from tax payers to fund the stimulus bill... but that is not the case, unless you have info that says otherwise... do you?

What new tax? Has zero to do with this thread or the link to the stimulus bill. The argument was to just give all the money to the people. Not $1,400.

You linked to an argument saying that Dems voted for a bill that gives them $1400 but makes them owe $5800 and were looking for a counter argument. Or did I read that wrong??

There is no counter arguments that is fact. Unless you presume we never pay back the debt.

Yes that would be my presumption... well not in the direct traditional sense that you’ve implied.

And you would be wrong. My kids will be responsible for this debt. As will yours. It doesn’t just magically disappear. We need fiscal responsibility. So my point was if I am responsible for this debt then give me the full amount of the monies. Not me precisely since I did not qualify but if I had...

Your presumption of we don’t have to pay this debt back is not only dangerous but borderline infuriating.

The debt would exist while our children are alive yes, just as the debt has existed throughout your entire life... how has it impacted you? How do you think it will impact them and why do you think it will be different?

It has only been this high for 13 years? It has impacted all of us. Instead of building high speed rails and other infrastructure improvements we spent monies on useless wars and paying for bad decisions. Our infrastructure sucks. Go to an airport in Dubai and compare it Logan or LAX. It’s a fucking joke. China is coming for us. 13 years is a tiny timeframe mind you. It will impact them in that taxes will have to be raised and expenses reduced as in they may lose SS or have it significantly reduced. They and their spouses will both have to work vs having one home to raise the kids. Because we let our schools go to shit they will likely have to send their kids to private school.

So yes it has impacted me. And you. But you don’t see it. It will certainly impact them.

13 years? No dude the debt has been like this for decades. Those things you listed were not effected by the debt, they were just policy decisions. As we have seen with the pandemic, we can pump out trillions at the drop of a hat. The ability to build has always been there. Congress just hasn’t decided to do it

Nope 13 years has it gone off the rails

You should check your stats. If you are using different criteria than percentage increase then let me know what it is

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I am using absolute dollars. $2 to $4 is a 100% increase but still only $4. Do you have any finance acumen? Chart absolute dollars under Obama and Trump. This is a fairly recent spending spree.

Let me give you another tid bit for you to think about in regards to your argument in the OP. You clamed that people were getting paid $1400 in exchange for owing $5800, right? Well my first point is that they won't need to ever pay the $5800 directly unless of course the bill has a tax applied to fund the intitiative which this one does not. But secondly lets look at the $1400 they got paid.... You need to track that money to understand that it is not a sunk cost but rather revenue producing.

Lets say Joe gets the $1400 stimulus check and uses it to build a new deck so he spends it at the local lumber store. The owner of the lumber store pays sales tax on the purchase and then uses the money to pay his employee where he pays employment tax and then the employee who gets the payment pays income tax. That employee decides to fix his HVAC with that money so it then goes to the HVAC repair guy... Sales tax, employment tax and income tax is applied... Are you getting the picture on how that $1400 pays for itself plus more as it is USED to flow throughout the economy?? Its how trickle up works. It stagnates when somebody gives it to their hedge fund and it sits accruing interest in an investment account for decades which is where much of the wealth that the top earners collect goes. Hopefully some of it comes back to create jobs and business expansion but we can clearly see that greater sums of wealth is being collected by the top dogs than is coming back.

So why not give everyone $10k? It pays for itself?

You tell me. I was hoping you'd actually put some thought into what I said.

I have. You tell me. You say all the money comes back anyway. So let's give EVERYONE $10k...hell make it $100k.

You have put zero thought into it. What if that $1,400 goes into buying drugs. Zero taxes. The drug dealer, takes it and burns it while doing smack....I mean you are just making stuff up now.

You are the one who presented the $1400 as a sunk cost and the $5800 as an owed debt both of which are not accurate presentations. I explained why. We dive into plans and budgets and policy suggestions on the best course of action and talk about those factors you just brought up, however, you challenged us idiot lefties to try and provide a counterpoint to your statement I that's what I did. You weren't accurate in your breakdown of the stimulus. It sounds like you might have a better understanding now so you're welcome. I know you won't admit any of this but I know that you know that I know that you know.

You're being a dink. I understand it very well as I do this for a living. We paid $6k each to give some people $1,400. That is pretty stupid. Why not just give everyone eligible $6k and have them follow your guide and circulate the monies in the economy? Sounds like you still refused to answer that question. We are going in circles. My guess is that your start-ups failed as you have zero financial acumen.

No we didn't pay $6K to get $1400... Jesus, did you not absorb anything I said?!?! The $1400 comes back as revenue every time it is transferred to somebody else. So that deducts from the $6K... Not to mention much of that $6K are investments similar to the $1400 that flow throughout the economy. Is all this going over your head because you are presenting very skewed versions of reality. Are you being argumentative or do you not understand how this works?

He doesn't understanhd.

He being Slate. I'll ask you since you cannot spell understand and he won't answer. If money is free and helps the economy why not just issue $10k to every eligible American vs. $1.4k?

Thank you

What is this free money thing that you think is real. Do you not understand our finance system?

Do you? I understand it very well. Eventually the debt has to be paid back.

So where’s the “free money”?

You are a phukn joke! Give all people who save at a bank 3 to 4 percent interest without penalties to start. Like the old days when it was guaranteed. No charges for any banking ways also. This to start.

 

[jknowgood]

At least he answered questions. Biden just hit us with a stupid partisan stimulus bill. You can see here why its stupid and none of the leftists here have been able to argue the counterpoint.

Stupidity of the Democrats and their $1.927 Trillion Bill

You cannot get any dumber. Honestly...approx 300mil people will receive $1,400 but will owe $5,839 for the $1,400....LOL Math is as follows: $422bil of the stimulus is the $1,400 per person so that results in ~301.5 mil people getting it. Now the entire Bill is $1.927Trn...divide that by the...

www.usmessageboard.com

But why won't Biden take tough questions on both the stimulus and the crisis at the border?

Love or hate Trump or tolerate only, Trump always took questions. Combative? Yes. Answered them? Yes.

Biden not yet holding a formal news conference raises accountability questions

The White House still hasn't set a date for President Joe Biden to hold his first news conference.

abcnews.go.com

LOL, Trump didn't answer questions, he dodged every question from the MSM, he ignored the journalists, insulted them and went ahead and praised himself for things others have done. Why do you lie?

Trump answered the questions, quit lying.

Trump and lying goes together like peanut butter and jelly...

Trump kept almost all of his campaign promises. Biden has broke almost all of his. I'll stick with Trump.

And the result was: huge deficits, giant bailouts, riots, recession, most pandemic deaths, couldn’t hit 3% gdp growth, failed tariffs....

Biden will soon outspend Trump. Recession was because of the lockdowns, and most of the deaths came from liberal run shitholes like new york.

Biden has a giant mess to clean up.

Yes he does, the border crisis he created is going to be a rough one. The gas prices going up is also on him.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

At least he answered questions. Biden just hit us with a stupid partisan stimulus bill. You can see here why its stupid and none of the leftists here have been able to argue the counterpoint.

Stupidity of the Democrats and their $1.927 Trillion Bill

You cannot get any dumber. Honestly...approx 300mil people will receive $1,400 but will owe $5,839 for the $1,400....LOL Math is as follows: $422bil of the stimulus is the $1,400 per person so that results in ~301.5 mil people getting it. Now the entire Bill is $1.927Trn...divide that by the...

www.usmessageboard.com

But why won't Biden take tough questions on both the stimulus and the crisis at the border?

Love or hate Trump or tolerate only, Trump always took questions. Combative? Yes. Answered them? Yes.

Biden not yet holding a formal news conference raises accountability questions

The White House still hasn't set a date for President Joe Biden to hold his first news conference.

abcnews.go.com

I will argue a counterpoint if you’d like... you are implying that a new tax will be applied and taken from tax payers to fund the stimulus bill... but that is not the case, unless you have info that says otherwise... do you?

What new tax? Has zero to do with this thread or the link to the stimulus bill. The argument was to just give all the money to the people. Not $1,400.

You linked to an argument saying that Dems voted for a bill that gives them $1400 but makes them owe $5800 and were looking for a counter argument. Or did I read that wrong??

There is no counter arguments that is fact. Unless you presume we never pay back the debt.

Yes that would be my presumption... well not in the direct traditional sense that you’ve implied.

And you would be wrong. My kids will be responsible for this debt. As will yours. It doesn’t just magically disappear. We need fiscal responsibility. So my point was if I am responsible for this debt then give me the full amount of the monies. Not me precisely since I did not qualify but if I had...

Your presumption of we don’t have to pay this debt back is not only dangerous but borderline infuriating.

The debt would exist while our children are alive yes, just as the debt has existed throughout your entire life... how has it impacted you? How do you think it will impact them and why do you think it will be different?

It has only been this high for 13 years? It has impacted all of us. Instead of building high speed rails and other infrastructure improvements we spent monies on useless wars and paying for bad decisions. Our infrastructure sucks. Go to an airport in Dubai and compare it Logan or LAX. It’s a fucking joke. China is coming for us. 13 years is a tiny timeframe mind you. It will impact them in that taxes will have to be raised and expenses reduced as in they may lose SS or have it significantly reduced. They and their spouses will both have to work vs having one home to raise the kids. Because we let our schools go to shit they will likely have to send their kids to private school.

So yes it has impacted me. And you. But you don’t see it. It will certainly impact them.

13 years? No dude the debt has been like this for decades. Those things you listed were not effected by the debt, they were just policy decisions. As we have seen with the pandemic, we can pump out trillions at the drop of a hat. The ability to build has always been there. Congress just hasn’t decided to do it

Nope 13 years has it gone off the rails

You should check your stats. If you are using different criteria than percentage increase then let me know what it is

View attachment 468130

I am using absolute dollars. $2 to $4 is a 100% increase but still only $4. Do you have any finance acumen? Chart absolute dollars under Obama and Trump. This is a fairly recent spending spree.

Let me give you another tid bit for you to think about in regards to your argument in the OP. You clamed that people were getting paid $1400 in exchange for owing $5800, right? Well my first point is that they won't need to ever pay the $5800 directly unless of course the bill has a tax applied to fund the intitiative which this one does not. But secondly lets look at the $1400 they got paid.... You need to track that money to understand that it is not a sunk cost but rather revenue producing.

Lets say Joe gets the $1400 stimulus check and uses it to build a new deck so he spends it at the local lumber store. The owner of the lumber store pays sales tax on the purchase and then uses the money to pay his employee where he pays employment tax and then the employee who gets the payment pays income tax. That employee decides to fix his HVAC with that money so it then goes to the HVAC repair guy... Sales tax, employment tax and income tax is applied... Are you getting the picture on how that $1400 pays for itself plus more as it is USED to flow throughout the economy?? Its how trickle up works. It stagnates when somebody gives it to their hedge fund and it sits accruing interest in an investment account for decades which is where much of the wealth that the top earners collect goes. Hopefully some of it comes back to create jobs and business expansion but we can clearly see that greater sums of wealth is being collected by the top dogs than is coming back.

So why not give everyone $10k? It pays for itself?

You tell me. I was hoping you'd actually put some thought into what I said.

I have. You tell me. You say all the money comes back anyway. So let's give EVERYONE $10k...hell make it $100k.

You have put zero thought into it. What if that $1,400 goes into buying drugs. Zero taxes. The drug dealer, takes it and burns it while doing smack....I mean you are just making stuff up now.

You are the one who presented the $1400 as a sunk cost and the $5800 as an owed debt both of which are not accurate presentations. I explained why. We dive into plans and budgets and policy suggestions on the best course of action and talk about those factors you just brought up, however, you challenged us idiot lefties to try and provide a counterpoint to your statement I that's what I did. You weren't accurate in your breakdown of the stimulus. It sounds like you might have a better understanding now so you're welcome. I know you won't admit any of this but I know that you know that I know that you know.

You're being a dink. I understand it very well as I do this for a living. We paid $6k each to give some people $1,400. That is pretty stupid. Why not just give everyone eligible $6k and have them follow your guide and circulate the monies in the economy? Sounds like you still refused to answer that question. We are going in circles. My guess is that your start-ups failed as you have zero financial acumen.

No we didn't pay $6K to get $1400... Jesus, did you not absorb anything I said?!?! The $1400 comes back as revenue every time it is transferred to somebody else. So that deducts from the $6K... Not to mention much of that $6K are investments similar to the $1400 that flow throughout the economy. Is all this going over your head because you are presenting very skewed versions of reality. Are you being argumentative or do you not understand how this works?

He doesn't understanhd.

He being Slate. I'll ask you since you cannot spell understand and he won't answer. If money is free and helps the economy why not just issue $10k to every eligible American vs. $1.4k?

Thank you

What is this free money thing that you think is real. Do you not understand our finance system?

Do you? I understand it very well. Eventually the debt has to be paid back.

So where’s the “free money”?

People who will pay it back aren’t the ones who
Are getting it.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I prefer results to talk...

You don't believe Biden should do a presser on:

#1) COVID and Vaccines
#2) Economy
#3) Bombing of Syria
#4) New stimulus bill
#5) Crisis at the Border
#6) Infrastructure Bill
#7) Rise in gas prices

Would be nice to see a Q&A

All I am saying

What would we gain? I don’t trust politicians anyhow.

Perspective

 

[Bobob]

At least he answered questions. Biden just hit us with a stupid partisan stimulus bill. You can see here why its stupid and none of the leftists here have been able to argue the counterpoint.

Stupidity of the Democrats and their $1.927 Trillion Bill

You cannot get any dumber. Honestly...approx 300mil people will receive $1,400 but will owe $5,839 for the $1,400....LOL Math is as follows: $422bil of the stimulus is the $1,400 per person so that results in ~301.5 mil people getting it. Now the entire Bill is $1.927Trn...divide that by the...

www.usmessageboard.com

But why won't Biden take tough questions on both the stimulus and the crisis at the border?

Love or hate Trump or tolerate only, Trump always took questions. Combative? Yes. Answered them? Yes.

Biden not yet holding a formal news conference raises accountability questions

The White House still hasn't set a date for President Joe Biden to hold his first news conference.

abcnews.go.com

LOL, Trump didn't answer questions, he dodged every question from the MSM, he ignored the journalists, insulted them and went ahead and praised himself for things others have done. Why do you lie?

the fk he didn't. name one time he said no answer.

All the time. That blogger hit the nail right on the head.

 

[bendog]

At least he answered questions. Biden just hit us with a stupid partisan stimulus bill. You can see here why its stupid and none of the leftists here have been able to argue the counterpoint.

Stupidity of the Democrats and their $1.927 Trillion Bill

You cannot get any dumber. Honestly...approx 300mil people will receive $1,400 but will owe $5,839 for the $1,400....LOL Math is as follows: $422bil of the stimulus is the $1,400 per person so that results in ~301.5 mil people getting it. Now the entire Bill is $1.927Trn...divide that by the...

www.usmessageboard.com

But why won't Biden take tough questions on both the stimulus and the crisis at the border?

Love or hate Trump or tolerate only, Trump always took questions. Combative? Yes. Answered them? Yes.

Biden not yet holding a formal news conference raises accountability questions

The White House still hasn't set a date for President Joe Biden to hold his first news conference.

abcnews.go.com

LOL, Trump didn't answer questions, he dodged every question from the MSM, he ignored the journalists, insulted them and went ahead and praised himself for things others have done. Why do you lie?

Trump answered the questions, quit lying.

Trump and lying goes together like peanut butter and jelly...

Trump kept almost all of his campaign promises. Biden has broke almost all of his. I'll stick with Trump.

And the result was: huge deficits, giant bailouts, riots, recession, most pandemic deaths, couldn’t hit 3% gdp growth, failed tariffs....

Biden will soon outspend Trump. Recession was because of the lockdowns, and most of the deaths came from liberal run shitholes like new york.

Biden has a giant mess to clean up.

I don't know that Trump left all that much of a mess. Obviously covid has been a disaster. Deaths could have been mitigated, but it's not like other democracies weathered it better. Biden is attempting to put the US on as much of a progressive tax course and TrumpMcConnell put us on a regressive course. Whether he succeeds is still a question. I'd say that if he succeeds, overall it will be better for America .. Not because progressivism is better, but because McConnell pretty much stymied Obama, so we had 8 years of McConnell's economics. And the rich did very very well, and workers actually regressed ... even before covid.
But progressives aren't very good at border control. And they seem to think working makes us all happy. And they even think that things like food water and housing are "rights."

 

[jc456]

So where’s the “free money”?

it will be when you get your covid relief money. what was that value? oh yeah, 1.9 trillion. where did it come from if not free?

Same place Trump’s stimulus checks came from. What’s the matter with this one? Not enough giveaways to the Uber rich this time?

i didn't agree with the free checks from trump. is joe signing these? I heard he wasn't. why?

 

[jc456]

At least he answered questions. Biden just hit us with a stupid partisan stimulus bill. You can see here why its stupid and none of the leftists here have been able to argue the counterpoint.

Stupidity of the Democrats and their $1.927 Trillion Bill

You cannot get any dumber. Honestly...approx 300mil people will receive $1,400 but will owe $5,839 for the $1,400....LOL Math is as follows: $422bil of the stimulus is the $1,400 per person so that results in ~301.5 mil people getting it. Now the entire Bill is $1.927Trn...divide that by the...

www.usmessageboard.com

But why won't Biden take tough questions on both the stimulus and the crisis at the border?

Love or hate Trump or tolerate only, Trump always took questions. Combative? Yes. Answered them? Yes.

Biden not yet holding a formal news conference raises accountability questions

The White House still hasn't set a date for President Joe Biden to hold his first news conference.

abcnews.go.com

LOL, Trump didn't answer questions, he dodged every question from the MSM, he ignored the journalists, insulted them and went ahead and praised himself for things others have done. Why do you lie?

the fk he didn't. name one time he said no answer.

All the time. That blogger hit the nail right on the head.

name one fool. you all post this shit and then can't back up your post. I bet you're a loser too.

 

[jc456]

At least he answered questions. Biden just hit us with a stupid partisan stimulus bill. You can see here why its stupid and none of the leftists here have been able to argue the counterpoint.

Stupidity of the Democrats and their $1.927 Trillion Bill

You cannot get any dumber. Honestly...approx 300mil people will receive $1,400 but will owe $5,839 for the $1,400....LOL Math is as follows: $422bil of the stimulus is the $1,400 per person so that results in ~301.5 mil people getting it. Now the entire Bill is $1.927Trn...divide that by the...

www.usmessageboard.com

But why won't Biden take tough questions on both the stimulus and the crisis at the border?

Love or hate Trump or tolerate only, Trump always took questions. Combative? Yes. Answered them? Yes.

Biden not yet holding a formal news conference raises accountability questions

The White House still hasn't set a date for President Joe Biden to hold his first news conference.

abcnews.go.com

LOL, Trump didn't answer questions, he dodged every question from the MSM, he ignored the journalists, insulted them and went ahead and praised himself for things others have done. Why do you lie?

Trump answered the questions, quit lying.

Trump and lying goes together like peanut butter and jelly...

Trump kept almost all of his campaign promises. Biden has broke almost all of his. I'll stick with Trump.

And the result was: huge deficits, giant bailouts, riots, recession, most pandemic deaths, couldn’t hit 3% gdp growth, failed tariffs....

Biden will soon outspend Trump. Recession was because of the lockdowns, and most of the deaths came from liberal run shitholes like new york.

Biden has a giant mess to clean up.

I don't know that Trump left all that much of a mess. Obviously covid has been a disaster. Deaths could have been mitigated, but it's not like other democracies weathered it better. Biden is attempting to put the US on as much of a progressive tax course and TrumpMcConnell put us on a regressive course. Whether he succeeds is still a question. I'd say that if he succeeds, overall it will be better for America .. Not because progressivism is better, but because McConnell pretty much stymied Obama, so we had 8 years of McConnell's economics. And the rich did very very well, and workers actually regressed ... even before covid.
But progressives aren't very good at border control. And they seem to think working makes us all happy. And they even think that things like food water and housing are "rights."

Deaths could have been mitigated
deaths could have been mitigated how?

 

[jc456]

So where’s the “free money”?

it will be when you get your covid relief money. what was that value? oh yeah, 1.9 trillion. where did it come from if not free?

Do you not understand where the governments money comes from?

tell me. Cause the country has debt which means they don't have any.

 

[TheParser]

At least he answered questions. Biden just hit us with a stupid partisan stimulus bill. You can see here why its stupid and none of the leftists here have been able to argue the counterpoint.

Stupidity of the Democrats and their $1.927 Trillion Bill

You cannot get any dumber. Honestly...approx 300mil people will receive $1,400 but will owe $5,839 for the $1,400....LOL Math is as follows: $422bil of the stimulus is the $1,400 per person so that results in ~301.5 mil people getting it. Now the entire Bill is $1.927Trn...divide that by the...

www.usmessageboard.com

But why won't Biden take tough questions on both the stimulus and the crisis at the border?

Love or hate Trump or tolerate only, Trump always took questions. Combative? Yes. Answered them? Yes.

Biden not yet holding a formal news conference raises accountability questions

The White House still hasn't set a date for President Joe Biden to hold his first news conference.

abcnews.go.com

During the next four years as the radical Dem agenda kicks in, many other Americans (including some who voted Dem in 2020) will be joining you in missing the Honorable Donald J. Trump, who was President for all Americans, not just for a few groups favored by the DNC.

 

[Rambunctious]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Huge difference TN....this dem bill is a blue state bailout...rewards them for decades of irresponsible governing....although I still would be fine with the bill if our congress and white house would man up and get China to pay for it.....And if you think liberal causes aren't rewarded too you need to think again....big tech is getting its share and so are the big network media...you just have to dig deeper and follow the money....

 

[TNHarley]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Huge difference TN....this dem bill is a blue state bailout...rewards them for decades of irresponsible governing....although I still would be fine with the bill if our congress and white house would man up and get China to pay for it.....And if you think liberal causes aren't rewarded too you need to think again....big tech is getting its share and so are the big network media...you just have to dig deeper and follow the money....

I get that but trumps bill gave the states billions too. This one is just more.

 

[jc456]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Huge difference TN....this dem bill is a blue state bailout...rewards them for decades of irresponsible governing....although I still would be fine with the bill if our congress and white house would man up and get China to pay for it.....And if you think liberal causes aren't rewarded too you need to think again....big tech is getting its share and so are the big network media...you just have to dig deeper and follow the money....

I get that but trumps bill gave the states billions too. This one is just more.

well actually, it was for small businesses in the states. now the blue states most likely absorbed the money rather than sending it to the businesses, because that's who they are.

 

[Rambunctious]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Huge difference TN....this dem bill is a blue state bailout...rewards them for decades of irresponsible governing....although I still would be fine with the bill if our congress and white house would man up and get China to pay for it.....And if you think liberal causes aren't rewarded too you need to think again....big tech is getting its share and so are the big network media...you just have to dig deeper and follow the money....

I get that but trumps bill gave the states billions too. This one is just more.

I'm not a huge fan of any federal bailout but this one is going to inflate the economy and shrink the value of the dollar....and the scary part is because of covid numbers going down and businesses opening up we won't see the negative economic impact until its too late...
We should have stopped after Trump's bill and said that's it...open up the states....

 

[jknowgood]

At least he answered questions. Biden just hit us with a stupid partisan stimulus bill. You can see here why its stupid and none of the leftists here have been able to argue the counterpoint.

Stupidity of the Democrats and their $1.927 Trillion Bill

You cannot get any dumber. Honestly...approx 300mil people will receive $1,400 but will owe $5,839 for the $1,400....LOL Math is as follows: $422bil of the stimulus is the $1,400 per person so that results in ~301.5 mil people getting it. Now the entire Bill is $1.927Trn...divide that by the...

www.usmessageboard.com

But why won't Biden take tough questions on both the stimulus and the crisis at the border?

Love or hate Trump or tolerate only, Trump always took questions. Combative? Yes. Answered them? Yes.

Biden not yet holding a formal news conference raises accountability questions

The White House still hasn't set a date for President Joe Biden to hold his first news conference.

abcnews.go.com

LOL, Trump didn't answer questions, he dodged every question from the MSM, he ignored the journalists, insulted them and went ahead and praised himself for things others have done. Why do you lie?

Trump answered the questions, quit lying.

Trump and lying goes together like peanut butter and jelly...

Trump kept almost all of his campaign promises. Biden has broke almost all of his. I'll stick with Trump.

And the result was: huge deficits, giant bailouts, riots, recession, most pandemic deaths, couldn’t hit 3% gdp growth, failed tariffs....

Biden will soon outspend Trump. Recession was because of the lockdowns, and most of the deaths came from liberal run shitholes like new york.

Biden has a giant mess to clean up.

I don't know that Trump left all that much of a mess. Obviously covid has been a disaster. Deaths could have been mitigated, but it's not like other democracies weathered it better. Biden is attempting to put the US on as much of a progressive tax course and TrumpMcConnell put us on a regressive course. Whether he succeeds is still a question. I'd say that if he succeeds, overall it will be better for America .. Not because progressivism is better, but because McConnell pretty much stymied Obama, so we had 8 years of McConnell's economics. And the rich did very very well, and workers actually regressed ... even before covid.
But progressives aren't very good at border control. And they seem to think working makes us all happy. And they even think that things like food water and housing are "rights."

Deaths could have been mitigated
deaths could have been mitigated how?

 

[Bobob]

At least he answered questions. Biden just hit us with a stupid partisan stimulus bill. You can see here why its stupid and none of the leftists here have been able to argue the counterpoint.

Stupidity of the Democrats and their $1.927 Trillion Bill

You cannot get any dumber. Honestly...approx 300mil people will receive $1,400 but will owe $5,839 for the $1,400....LOL Math is as follows: $422bil of the stimulus is the $1,400 per person so that results in ~301.5 mil people getting it. Now the entire Bill is $1.927Trn...divide that by the...

www.usmessageboard.com

But why won't Biden take tough questions on both the stimulus and the crisis at the border?

Love or hate Trump or tolerate only, Trump always took questions. Combative? Yes. Answered them? Yes.

Biden not yet holding a formal news conference raises accountability questions

The White House still hasn't set a date for President Joe Biden to hold his first news conference.

abcnews.go.com

LOL, Trump didn't answer questions, he dodged every question from the MSM, he ignored the journalists, insulted them and went ahead and praised himself for things others have done. Why do you lie?

the fk he didn't. name one time he said no answer.

All the time. That blogger hit the nail right on the head.

name one fool. you all post this shit and then can't back up your post. I bet you're a loser too.

Hey, smart ass. One coming up, but you can research them yourself if you can read.
Trump dodged one of the key questions about Ukraine -- so ...



www.cnn.com › 2019/10/03 › media › reuters-jeff-mason...
Oct 3, 2019 — At Wednesday's press conference with President Donald Trump, Reuters White ... And journalists were pretty much unanimous in defending Mason ... All of that said, it has been some week for Trump — even by his standards. ... we are unaware of any prior case — in 230 years — of a president asking a ...

 

[Genclebune]

Trunk won, and by a lot

 

[Borillar]

So where’s the “free money”?

it will be when you get your covid relief money. what was that value? oh yeah, 1.9 trillion. where did it come from if not free?

Same place Trump’s stimulus checks came from. What’s the matter with this one? Not enough giveaways to the Uber rich this time?

i didn't agree with the free checks from trump. is joe signing these? I heard he wasn't. why?

Probably because he doesn’t have a massive narcissistic ego to constantly stroke.