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Our schools are secular. Sorry.
And that has what to do with anything I said?
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Our schools are secular. Sorry.
Our schools are secular. Sorry.
And that has what to do with anything I said?
Our schools are secular. Sorry.
And that has what to do with anything I said?
You want Christmas traditions in the schools, but we have a secular system. Sorry.
I love Jesus! Anyone got a problem with that?![]()
Bottom line: I say Merry Christmas to Christians I know and I love it when they say Happy Holidays to me.
I'm not biting guys. There is nothing in the OP nor in anything I have posted on this thread or anywhere else or in anything any of the other pro-Christmas people have posted that suggests that anybody should be asked or required to worship anything. That is not the thesis of this thread and you're off topic trying to push it in that direction.
You see it all as neutral, but trees, and Santa, and reindeer, all are part of how we celebrate a Christian holiday.
Our schools are secular. Sorry.
Our schools are secular. Sorry.
I've said this before on here, but since you're new I'll let you know how it is in our public school during the month of December.
The kids (elementary) practice 2 songs (each grade level does 2 songs) -one grade may do 2 Christmas songs, one grade 2 Hanukkah Songs, one grade 2 Kwanza songs, one grade 2 songs in Spanish, etc.
We have Christmas trees, snowmen, snowflakes, Christmas lights, etc all through the building.
In Art Class they make presents for their parents, and also in class. They make them Christmas Cards or just a card if they don't celebrate Christmas.
Some of the kids go to the retirement home with Christmas cookies and Christmas cards and sing them Christmas Carols, the older people love it.
We have a party for the kids the last day of school before vacation.
It's worked this way for longer than I've been teaching there, without one complaint from anyone.
And nobody got hurt by all of this! Imagine that!
I'm not biting guys. There is nothing in the OP nor in anything I have posted on this thread or anywhere else or in anything any of the other pro-Christmas people have posted that suggests that anybody should be asked or required to worship anything. That is not the thesis of this thread and you're off topic trying to push it in that direction.
You see it all as neutral, but trees, and Santa, and reindeer, all are part of how we celebrate a Christian holiday.
It is a Christian holiday only to Christians. It is a national holiday to all Americans. I wish everybody could make that distinction.
That's really silly. By definition it's to worship your "Christ", your god.
It's a religious holiday for christians.
You see it all as neutral, but trees, and Santa, and reindeer, all are part of how we celebrate a Christian holiday.
It is a Christian holiday only to Christians. It is a national holiday to all Americans. I wish everybody could make that distinction.
That's really silly. By definition it's to worship your "Christ", your god.
It's a religious holiday for christians.
It is a Christian holiday only to Christians. It is a national holiday to all Americans. I wish everybody could make that distinction.
If that is all it is to you, that's too bad for you, but to each his own. By all means don't celebrate our national holiday of Christmas. I support you 100% in your choice not to celebrate Christmas. All I ask is that you don't interfere with me or my community celebrating it as we choose.
Our schools are secular. Sorry.
I've said this before on here, but since you're new I'll let you know how it is in our public school during the month of December.
The kids (elementary) practice 2 songs (each grade level does 2 songs) -one grade may do 2 Christmas songs, one grade 2 Hanukkah Songs, one grade 2 Kwanza songs, one grade 2 songs in Spanish, etc.
We have Christmas trees, snowmen, snowflakes, Christmas lights, etc all through the building.
In Art Class they make presents for their parents, and also in class. They make them Christmas Cards or just a card if they don't celebrate Christmas.
Some of the kids go to the retirement home with Christmas cookies and Christmas cards and sing them Christmas Carols, the older people love it.
We have a party for the kids the last day of school before vacation.
It's worked this way for longer than I've been teaching there, without one complaint from anyone.
And nobody got hurt by all of this! Imagine that!
It's your religious holiday.
Also, exactly how do you claim the whole community?That's really silly. By definition it's to worship your "Christ", your god.
It's a religious holiday for christians.
If that is all it is to you, that's too bad for you, but to each his own. By all means don't celebrate our national holiday of Christmas. I support you 100% in your choice not to celebrate Christmas. All I ask is that you don't interfere with me or my community celebrating it as we choose.
It's your religious holiday.
Also, exactly how do you claim the whole community?That's really silly. By definition it's to worship your "Christ", your god.
It's a religious holiday for christians.
I don't get that attitude at all, no one should be offended by Christmas, it makes no sense to me, and I say that as a Jew. This is America, America celebrates Christmas, it is part of the culture of this country and as Foxfyre says it is only religious for Christians, if you're not a Christian it's not religious
It's your religious holiday.
Also, exactly how do you claim the whole community?If that is all it is to you, that's too bad for you, but to each his own. By all means don't celebrate our national holiday of Christmas. I support you 100% in your choice not to celebrate Christmas. All I ask is that you don't interfere with me or my community celebrating it as we choose.
Not going to let you divert the thread with a straw man. Sorry Mike. I am one of millions of Americans who want to celebrate Christmas as a religious observance. I'm not asking anybody else to participate in that.
I am also an American who, as an American, wants to celebrate the National Holiday of Christmas as Christmas and not some other politically correct observance.
Most Americans have no problem celebrating Thanksgiving and making it their own whether or not they subscribe to its religious origins. I think most Americans can figure out how to do that with Christmas too without having to make it into something else.
And I wholly suscribe to allowing anybody not to participate in either or both as he or she chooses.
How is Christmas diminished by people who don't celebrate it? I don't get it. Do we live in a free country or not? Must ALL Americans celebrate Christmas whether it's meaningless to us or not?
It's your religious holiday.
Also, exactly how do you claim the whole community?
Not going to let you divert the thread with a straw man. Sorry Mike. I am one of millions of Americans who want to celebrate Christmas as a religious observance. I'm not asking anybody else to participate in that.
I am also an American who, as an American, wants to celebrate the National Holiday of Christmas as Christmas and not some other politically correct observance.
Most Americans have no problem celebrating Thanksgiving and making it their own whether or not they subscribe to its religious origins. I think most Americans can figure out how to do that with Christmas too without having to make it into something else.
And I wholly suscribe to allowing anybody not to participate in either or both as he or she chooses.
Question:
Does chirstmas mean christ/jesus/god/religion?