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I want to ban McCain from Arlington

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The guy was a deceiver.
He put on a big act he was a hardcore conservative, then carpetbagged his way into Arizona
He would have been a hero by staying out of politics
..and what's up with that remark of the "intervention in Dallas" when talking about JFK in the debates?



So what?

You don't make that decision. In fact what you want means zero to anyone who does make that decision.

I don't agree with his politics. I don't agree with a lot of what he says.

However I don't hate him like you do.

The man is dying of cancer in his brain. Can you possibly show some common decency?
 
I despise McCain's politics, but I would never deny him his place in Arlington. He did have a checkered Naval career, but he also did do seven years in the Hanoi Hilton. That alone qualifies him as a war hero, and internment in Arlington.

Is he a political buffoon? Yes. Veteran, and Arlington qualified? Yes.

Noone knows for sure what McCain did while there. For all we know he traded US military secrets for luxuries and courted Jane F. NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE. Never take information at face value.
He elected to stay there when he had the choice to leave.
There is a large contingent of Veterans who call him out.
McCain and the POW Cover-Up

In politics he's shown an arrogant, childish, nasty side and gone against his own party....leopards don't change their spots.

The True John McCain?
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What's wrong with not being a sheep? McCain pissed off the new conservative movement (NCM) which requires blind obedience, if they oppose even one Party Plan they become maligned as RINO's, and risk being attacked for thinking out side the box of NCM
Socialism has. Never worked will never work for the good of anyone...
it has been tried a million times with 100% failure rate... it is delusional to think “this time” it will... lol



So you're saying that our constitution is a failure?

Our military. FEMA, NASA, all police, firefighters, EMT, libraries, public utility facilities, roads and a very long list of socialism in America are all failures?

Our constitution requires socialism in our nation.

All of what I listed are 100% owned, controlled and funded by the government. All of it is required by the constitution.

The definition of socialism is the government owning and controlling the means of production. The government owns, controls and funds all of those things and more.

Our nation is combination of socialism and capitalism. Just as all successful and developed nations in this world.
 
He collaborated with the enemy as a POW.
No, he did not. That's a trumpanzee lie.
He signed documents and appeared before the VC cameras. In contrast his commanding officer beat himself in the face rather than be forced in front of the cameras.
You DO know that when we go thru SERE training, it's understood that they WILL break you...the thing is to hold out for 48 hours because then you can give them nothing valuable...you DID know that, right?
 
I despise McCain's politics, but I would never deny him his place in Arlington. He did have a checkered Naval career, but he also did do seven years in the Hanoi Hilton. That alone qualifies him as a war hero, and internment in Arlington.

Is he a political buffoon? Yes. Veteran, and Arlington qualified? Yes.

Noone knows for sure what McCain did while there. For all we know he traded US military secrets for luxuries and courted Jane F. NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE. Never take information at face value.
He elected to stay there when he had the choice to leave.
There is a large contingent of Veterans who call him out.
McCain and the POW Cover-Up

In politics he's shown an arrogant, childish, nasty side and gone against his own party....leopards don't change their spots.

The True John McCain?
1fa7b2a8f6c6320b27d98940ae2c3b7c---year-old-boy-jonathan-harris.jpg

What's wrong with not being a sheep? McCain pissed off the new conservative movement (NCM) which requires blind obedience, if they oppose even one Party Plan they become maligned as RINO's, and risk being attacked for thinking out side the box of NCM
Socialism has. Never worked will never work for the good of anyone...
it has been tried a million times with 100% failure rate... it is delusional to think “this time” it will... lol



So you're saying that our constitution is a failure?

Our military. FEMA, NASA, all police, firefighters, EMT, libraries, public utility facilities, roads and a very long list of socialism in America are all failures?

Our constitution requires socialism in our nation.

All of what I listed are 100% owned, controlled and funded by the government. All of it is required by the constitution.

The definition of socialism is the government owning and controlling the means of production. The government owns, controls and funds all of those things and more.

Our nation is combination of socialism and capitalism. Just as all successful and developed nations in this world.
Na, The federal government does not own anything.. although acts like it does.
 
You DO know that when we go thru SERE training, it's understood that they WILL break you...the thing is to hold out for 48 hours because then you can give them nothing valuable...you DID know that, right?

If you knew what SERE training he got was (you don't), you'd know McCain didn't have any information they could use...they already knew what flights were coming off his carrier, but not when, and he didn't either. He was bayoneted in the foot and groin in the paddy he was taken in. He already had a broken shoulder. I have no problem with him eventually telling them what he knew because he didn't know anything. SERE is mostly about not getting discovered and there is no time limit to give NRSN only. You hold out until you can't bear it and then give them false information as long as possible while planning an escape. You DO NOT make propaganda films or broadcasts or inform on other prisoners for them like he did.
 
I despise McCain's politics, but I would never deny him his place in Arlington. He did have a checkered Naval career, but he also did do seven years in the Hanoi Hilton. That alone qualifies him as a war hero, and internment in Arlington.

Is he a political buffoon? Yes. Veteran, and Arlington qualified? Yes.

Noone knows for sure what McCain did while there. For all we know he traded US military secrets for luxuries and courted Jane F. NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE. Never take information at face value.
He elected to stay there when he had the choice to leave.
There is a large contingent of Veterans who call him out.
McCain and the POW Cover-Up

In politics he's shown an arrogant, childish, nasty side and gone against his own party....leopards don't change their spots.

The True John McCain?
1fa7b2a8f6c6320b27d98940ae2c3b7c---year-old-boy-jonathan-harris.jpg

What's wrong with not being a sheep? McCain pissed off the new conservative movement (NCM) which requires blind obedience, if they oppose even one Party Plan they become maligned as RINO's, and risk being attacked for thinking out side the box of NCM
Socialism has. Never worked will never work for the good of anyone...
it has been tried a million times with 100% failure rate... it is delusional to think “this time” it will... lol



So you're saying that our constitution is a failure?

Our military. FEMA, NASA, all police, firefighters, EMT, libraries, public utility facilities, roads and a very long list of socialism in America are all failures?

Our constitution requires socialism in our nation.

All of what I listed are 100% owned, controlled and funded by the government. All of it is required by the constitution.

The definition of socialism is the government owning and controlling the means of production. The government owns, controls and funds all of those things and more.

Our nation is combination of socialism and capitalism. Just as all successful and developed nations in this world.
Na, The federal government does not own anything.. although acts like it does.
They own over one third the land in the US
 
Noone knows for sure what McCain did while there. For all we know he traded US military secrets for luxuries and courted Jane F. NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE. Never take information at face value.
He elected to stay there when he had the choice to leave.
There is a large contingent of Veterans who call him out.
McCain and the POW Cover-Up

In politics he's shown an arrogant, childish, nasty side and gone against his own party....leopards don't change their spots.

The True John McCain?
1fa7b2a8f6c6320b27d98940ae2c3b7c---year-old-boy-jonathan-harris.jpg

What's wrong with not being a sheep? McCain pissed off the new conservative movement (NCM) which requires blind obedience, if they oppose even one Party Plan they become maligned as RINO's, and risk being attacked for thinking out side the box of NCM
Socialism has. Never worked will never work for the good of anyone...
it has been tried a million times with 100% failure rate... it is delusional to think “this time” it will... lol



So you're saying that our constitution is a failure?

Our military. FEMA, NASA, all police, firefighters, EMT, libraries, public utility facilities, roads and a very long list of socialism in America are all failures?

Our constitution requires socialism in our nation.

All of what I listed are 100% owned, controlled and funded by the government. All of it is required by the constitution.

The definition of socialism is the government owning and controlling the means of production. The government owns, controls and funds all of those things and more.

Our nation is combination of socialism and capitalism. Just as all successful and developed nations in this world.
Na, The federal government does not own anything.. although acts like it does.
They own over one third the land in the US
You mean the citizens own it... right?
 
What's wrong with not being a sheep? McCain pissed off the new conservative movement (NCM) which requires blind obedience, if they oppose even one Party Plan they become maligned as RINO's, and risk being attacked for thinking out side the box of NCM
Socialism has. Never worked will never work for the good of anyone...
it has been tried a million times with 100% failure rate... it is delusional to think “this time” it will... lol



So you're saying that our constitution is a failure?

Our military. FEMA, NASA, all police, firefighters, EMT, libraries, public utility facilities, roads and a very long list of socialism in America are all failures?

Our constitution requires socialism in our nation.

All of what I listed are 100% owned, controlled and funded by the government. All of it is required by the constitution.

The definition of socialism is the government owning and controlling the means of production. The government owns, controls and funds all of those things and more.

Our nation is combination of socialism and capitalism. Just as all successful and developed nations in this world.
Na, The federal government does not own anything.. although acts like it does.
They own over one third the land in the US
You mean the citizens own it... right?
We the People created the government

They are us
 
The man was a POW for 6 years or so, right? Was tortured, right? Served his country in war and peace, right? For that he deserves to be buried in Arlington regardless of his politics.

Not if his "politics" included treason. You might remember what we found out about Tedward (the drowner) Kennedy after his death, including his contacts with Brezhnev to thwart Reagan's defense build-up. McCain has always been sketchy, including sending an envoy to collect the filthy "Steele Dossier" to thwart Trump's election. I know him better than most on this board from living in Arizona and I can tell you he's not an honorable man.
 
The man was a POW for 6 years or so, right? Was tortured, right? Served his country in war and peace, right? For that he deserves to be buried in Arlington regardless of his politics.
Nope. He is not a mindless Trump ball-chugger, so he is disposable, as per the Un-American fucktards who continue to support Donnie Shitstain.
 
You don't get to decide if a bird's turd is laid to rest there.


Totally true. Still, it might make a lot of people feel a bit better to put together a list of thousands or millions of names of dissatisfied conservative voters and mail it to his office telling him in the twilight of his career that given the choice, they'd just as soon see him buried elsewhere. That he is no conservative, no friend to the conservative, that the GOP is little enough comfort to the conservative and that if Sarah had been at the top of the ticket instead of him, the GOP might have won in 2008. That that little pecker suck on that.

What you and the OP miss, apparently deliberately, is that a Senator's job is not to represent "conservatism' or a "political party" --- it's to represent the constituents who elected him or her. Which, unless you lived in AridZona during any of those elections, does not apply to you.

And even if it did it would have no bearing whatsoever on whether his military service earns a plot at Arlington. You have neither the authority nor the moral standing to deny somebody's military honors just because you're personally butthurt about his politics.
 
If only McCain had bone spurs then he'd be loved by cons.

McCain flew 23 bombing missions over North Vietnam. A while after he was captured his father was appointed to a high level command position for all US forces in Vietnam. In mid-1968, his father John S. McCain Jr. was named commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater, and the North Vietnamese offered McCain early release because they wanted to appear merciful for propaganda purposes, and also to show other POWs that elite prisoners were willing to be treated preferentially. McCain refused repatriation unless every man taken in before him was also released. He remained a prisoner until 1973, suffering terrible torture during his time as a prisoner.

He was awarded the Silver Star, the Bronze Star, the Purple Heart, and other medals.

This is who conservatives want to bar from Arlington National Cemetery.

They also favor a draft dodger, whore banger, inveterate liar, con-man, and racist pig Drumpf over USMC Captain Mueller who ably served under Reagan, Bush, Bush II....

Those Conservatives are a weird bunch.
 
Maybe Trump will ban him from being buried at Arlington because he was captured

I like to bury people here who weren’t captured
trump will re-designate Arlington for those who had their own personal Viet Nam fighting STDs at home.



How old are you? That is just childish.

And point me to the posts you said that about Bill Clinton, hypocrite

Trump did say that, to Howard Stern.

Trump Boasted of Avoiding STDs: Vaginas 'Are Landmines ... It Is My Personal Vietnam'
 
Conservatives don't care what he believes or thinks...that's why they
stayed home and didn't vote when he ran for President in 2008.
See how fast and easy they throw you under the bus, @SarahPalinUSA?


Speaking as a conservative who voted "for" McCain in 2008,


there was nothing fast or easy about that.

McCain worked long and hard to get that level of enmity with conservatives.
 
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