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the scope of the discussion is when is it moral to murder an innocent child,,,
I leave morals out of it.
The Constitution is the law of the land.
Therefore the debate should be more about what abortions (if any) can be defended Constitutionally. Or not.
That's my take on it, anyway. I'm not butthurt about it when others disagree.
so if the constitution said we could kill a person up to 5 yrs old you would be OK with it
sorry but the constitution only works for a moral society,,,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
People are endowed by their creator, even if creation is evolution.
You might want to comprehend this:
any person (citizen or not) of life,
there is no proof evolution exist or happened,,,
Do you think God created Adam and Eve, and who did Cain have sex with, Eve??
when did I say anything about god???
please try and stay on topic,,,
So answer me, who do you mean?
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
the scope of the discussion is when is it moral to murder an innocent child,,,
I leave morals out of it.
The Constitution is the law of the land.
Therefore the debate should be more about what abortions (if any) can be defended Constitutionally. Or not.
That's my take on it, anyway. I'm not butthurt about it when others disagree.
so if the constitution said we could kill a person up to 5 yrs old you would be OK with it
sorry but the constitution only works for a moral society,,,
Let's work with what we have.
The Constitution is the law of the land.
It says that all persons have a right to their life and to the equal protections of our laws. (pretty fucking inclusive.)
Do you think that needs to be changed?
If so, the onus is on you to change it.
Murdering an innocent child is certainly no answer.Forcing the mother and fetus to undergo the pain and suffering of birth is no answer.
Its illegal in all 50 states to murder a child.
Any significant societal decision to be made in any way regarding abortion should be made by an exclusively female base. Let's put women's choice to the test and let only women vote, in any process that is made by vote.
NO medically a baby can live out side the womb at 24 weeks that is a MEDICAL FACT.Sorry, where does that state that a fetus is not viable until the 7th month? Don't go calling people names unless you are prepared to back up what was said. This does not.
"viability": Pregnancy: Second Trimester Community - Support Group
That says 23-24 weeks. 23 weeks is even before 6 months.
You do realize that "viable" is a construct to engage in communication of ideas. There is no "viable" time set in stone. It is ALL opinion. Some countries don't consider a fetus to be viable until 27 or 28 weeks because they don't have the neonatal facilities to handle babies born earlier.
So - pick a week or don't - it's all up to you. Everyone is allowed to have their own opinion on this issue.
So you heard this in some third world country?
No - it was an opinion piece. All articles that address viability are an opinion piece. There is no "Right" answer.
Don't tell Coyote, she insists that since liberal states all claim 24 weeks none of that happens, the truth is in liberal states the law allows an abortion doctor to determine WHEN it is ok meaning 13000 late term abortions.13K a year doesnt sound like a fewEveryone knows what happens in a late term abortion. The baby is rotated inside the mother's womb to cause a "breach birth" where the feet emerge first. It has to be painful and dangerous and there is no medical reason for it. When Clinton vetoed the late term abortion bill he paraded a lineup of women who claimed that their health was in jeopardy but that can't be true. You don't need to have a medical degree to determine that a "normal" birth would have saved the baby's life and would have been easier and less dangerous for the mother. How can anyone defend the late term abortion procedure from a medical standpoint?
No one has a late term abortion except for a women who really wants to birth a live infant. Also there are few of them.
Nearly 13,000 late-term abortions annually is a national disgrace
That applies to all life, not just white American suburban kids.
And there it is. When someone on theleftwrong knows that he's irreparably lost the argument, out comes the race card, even when the argument had nothing whatsoever to do with race.
As it happens a disproportionate number of the innocent victims of abortion are minorities, primarily black, what Planned Parenthood's founder called “human weeds”. This makes your playing of the Race Card in this context particularly absurd.
If youre not going to help pay for the unwanted child then mind your own business.Don't tell Coyote, she insists that since liberal states all claim 24 weeks none of that happens, the truth is in liberal states the law allows an abortion doctor to determine WHEN it is ok meaning 13000 late term abortions.13K a year doesnt sound like a fewEveryone knows what happens in a late term abortion. The baby is rotated inside the mother's womb to cause a "breach birth" where the feet emerge first. It has to be painful and dangerous and there is no medical reason for it. When Clinton vetoed the late term abortion bill he paraded a lineup of women who claimed that their health was in jeopardy but that can't be true. You don't need to have a medical degree to determine that a "normal" birth would have saved the baby's life and would have been easier and less dangerous for the mother. How can anyone defend the late term abortion procedure from a medical standpoint?
No one has a late term abortion except for a women who really wants to birth a live infant. Also there are few of them.
Nearly 13,000 late-term abortions annually is a national disgrace
Me. I had an unwanted pregnancy after a rape when I was 18 years old. I kept track of my cycles and when I missed one...I went to see why because I figured the bastard left a bastard in me. So I had it rmoved. PRONTO. By doctors in Los Angeles. Thru planned parenthood. I was poor, too. So go pound sand.Again. Provide information for people experiencing an unwanted pregnancy, particularly poor people and people in rural areas, to promptly take action. Also, support organizations like Planned Parenthood that provide necessary services to people who wish to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
Watching Schumer threaten SCOTUS judges if they rule against Roe VS Wade made me wonder about my own knowledge regarding my position... abortion OK only in case of health of money, rape or incest.
I am wrong!
Even in 1981, former Surgeon General of the United States Dr. C. Everett Koop said, “The fact of the matter is that abortion as a necessity to save the life of the mother is so rare as to be nonexistent.”
But as former abortionist Dr. Anthony Levatino has affirmed on the record:
During my time at Albany Medical Center I managed hundreds of such cases by “terminating” pregnancies to save mother’s lives. In all those cases, the number of unborn children that I had to deliberately kill was zero.
What Percentage of Abortions Are Medically Necessary?
But the biased MSM has never shared that with us.
Consequently since 1973 over 61,781,054 lives were destroyed.
Think about that...what baby among those 62 million could have discovered cures for cancer? Or made other fantastic contributions...all because a woman wasn't responsible enough.
Number of Abortions in US & Worldwide - Number of abortions since 1973
Just consider that: 46% of all abortions were performed on women who had one or more abortions before!
Think about it... There is an excuse for first timers... but 2nd, or 3 or more previous abortions?
Planned Parenthood Turns 99 Today: Has Killed 7 Million Babies in Abortions
Abortion isn't the only way lives are taken.
There is an organization in Europe that provides drugs over the internet for people who have discovered that they are pregnant and wish to terminate. Why is this service not available in the U.S. and not widely known?
Murdering an innocent child is certainly no answer.Forcing the mother and fetus to undergo the pain and suffering of birth is no answer.
Its illegal in all 50 states to murder a child.
Murdering an innocent child is certainly no answer.Forcing the mother and fetus to undergo the pain and suffering of birth is no answer.
Its illegal in all 50 states to murder a child.
That depends on your definition of 'child'...….. Most mothers & society refer to the 'thing' growing inside them during pregnancy as their baby and/or unborn child. Federal law allows the murder of unborn children up to birth, though all states have their own laws pertaining to which month or stage of pregnancy is legal to murder/abort that child.
So yeah, it is LEGAL to murder a child in all 50 states.
Murdering an innocent child is certainly no answer.Forcing the mother and fetus to undergo the pain and suffering of birth is no answer.
Its illegal in all 50 states to murder a child.
That depends on your definition of 'child'...….. Most mothers & society refer to the 'thing' growing inside them during pregnancy as their baby and/or unborn child. Federal law allows the murder of unborn children up to birth, though all states have their own laws pertaining to which month or stage of pregnancy is legal to murder/abort that child.
So yeah, it is LEGAL to murder a child in all 50 states.
So your for funding Title X and free condoms and free BC pills for everyone. You must be all for Medicaid, and the health of the mother and child.
You want universal healthcare, I agree, everyone should have health ins. free. Since only healthy parents have healthy children.
How many republican's have abortion? Have you figured that out, how many rich woman go in and have a D & C and abort?? Have you figured that out yet.
So your for funding Title X and free condoms and free BC pills for everyone. You must be all for Medicaid, and the health of the mother and child.Murdering an innocent child is certainly no answer.Forcing the mother and fetus to undergo the pain and suffering of birth is no answer.
Its illegal in all 50 states to murder a child.
That depends on your definition of 'child'...….. Most mothers & society refer to the 'thing' growing inside them during pregnancy as their baby and/or unborn child. Federal law allows the murder of unborn children up to birth, though all states have their own laws pertaining to which month or stage of pregnancy is legal to murder/abort that child.
So yeah, it is LEGAL to murder a child in all 50 states.
So your for funding Title X and free condoms and free BC pills for everyone. You must be all for Medicaid, and the health of the mother and child.
You want universal healthcare, I agree, everyone should have health ins. free. Since only healthy parents have healthy children.
How many republican's have abortion? Have you figured that out, how many rich woman go in and have a D & C and abort?? Have you figured that out yet.
I have no clue what TF you are babbling about there...…...I responded to your comment 'It's illegal in all 50 states to murder a child'.....by explaining that it IS legal.
Has absolutely nothing to do with healthcare, free condoms, Medicaid or just WHO is doing the murdering. If YOU want to know that, YOU figure it out yourself.
Watching Schumer threaten SCOTUS judges if they rule against Roe VS Wade made me wonder about my own knowledge regarding my position... abortion OK only in case of health of money, rape or incest.
I am wrong!
Even in 1981, former Surgeon General of the United States Dr. C. Everett Koop said, “The fact of the matter is that abortion as a necessity to save the life of the mother is so rare as to be nonexistent.”
