If God doesn't exist...

[RWS]

Btw, I'm not atheist.

My nationality is half Jewish and half Muslim.

So there...

 

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Btw, I'm not atheist.

My nationality is half Jewish and half Muslim.

So there...

Then maybe you should stop acting like one.

Who said socialism was limited to atheists? It has existed since the beginning of man. It has always tried to subordinate religion even when it was done by religions against rival religions. It is how the cosmic battle between good and evil has manifested itself here on earth. You are on the wrong side of good. But that's cool, you keep commenting on how religion is evil and I'll keep setting the record straight. Fair enough?

 

[RWS]

Let's get your stuff straight redneck. Communism was actually a religion. It was a modern-day rendition of Calvinism and Puritanism. But they removed the concept of "God" and replaced it with "country" and "state". Socialism was the oppressive bullshit government that people with money and power put in place, and convinced the followers of Communism that it was necessary in order to get there. And of course, they would never let go of their control once they had it. It was just a farce to make money and gain power for those already in position. Just like every other religion.

BTW, I was kidding about my nationality being half Jewish and half Muslim. Just to see how dumb you are.

They are not nationalities dickhead. They are religions. See? You don't even know the difference between a nationality and a religion...

Why don't you leave this conversation to the adults?

 

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Let's get your stuff straight redneck. Communism was actually a religion. It was a modern-day rendition of Calvinism and Puritanism. But they removed the concept of "God" and replaced it with "country" and "state". Socialism was the oppressive bullshit government that people with money and power put in place, and convinced the followers of Communism that it was necessary in order to get there. And of course, they would never let go of their control once they had it. It was just a farce to make money and gain power for those already in position. Just like every other religion.

BTW, I was kidding about my nationality being half Jewish and half Muslim. Just to see how dumb you are.

They are not nationalities dickhead. They are religions. See? You don't even know the difference between a nationality and a religion...

Why don't you leave this conversation to the adults?

I was responding to your comment that you were not an atheist, dumbass.

So we are exactly where we were before. You still have a dumbass rosy and vague notion of what life would be like without religion even though you don't have to imagine what that would be like because we already have had that. You are still a dumbfuck for arguing against the founding fathers of freedom and religion. You are still a dumbfuck for agreeing with the founding fathers of communism, and you are still a dumbfuck for dismissing the historical evidence of what happens when a people become irreligious.

Let's recap...

The Khmer Rouge abolished all religion and dispersed minority groups, forbidding them to speak their languages or to practice their customs. These policies had been implemented in less severe forms for many years prior to the Khmer Rouge's taking power.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

The propaganda of atheism is necessary for our programs. Vladimir Lenin

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

“More than half a century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of older people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: ‘Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.’” “Since then I have spent well-nigh fifty years working on the history of our Revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval...But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous Revolution that swallowed up some sixty million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.’”

“Templeton Lecture, May 10, 1983,” in The Solzhenitsyn Reader: New and Essential Writings, 1947-2005, eds. Edward E. Ericson, Jr. and Daniel J. Mahoney (Wilmington, DE: Intercollegiate Studies Institute, 2006), 577

George Washington
Farewell Address, Sept 17, 1796

“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports...In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens...”

The Will of the People: Readings in American Democracy (Chicago: Great Books Foundation, 2001), 38.

George Washington
Farewell Address, Sept 17, 1796

“…And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion...reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”

The Will of the People: Readings in American Democracy (Chicago: Great Books Foundation, 2001), 38.

Throughout our nation's history, churches have done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility. Moral and civil individuals are largely governed by their own sense of right and wrong, and hence have little need for external government. This is the real reason the collectivist Left hates religion: Churches as institutions compete with the state for the people's allegiance, and many devout people put their faith in God before putting their faith in the state. Knowing this, the secularists wage an ongoing war against religion, chipping away bit by bit at our nation's Christian heritage.
Dr. Ron Paul

 

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Let's get your stuff straight redneck. Communism was actually a religion. It was a modern-day rendition of Calvinism and Puritanism. But they removed the concept of "God" and replaced it with "country" and "state". Socialism was the oppressive bullshit government that people with money and power put in place, and convinced the followers of Communism that it was necessary in order to get there. And of course, they would never let go of their control once they had it. It was just a farce to make money and gain power for those already in position. Just like every other religion.

BTW, I was kidding about my nationality being half Jewish and half Muslim. Just to see how dumb you are.

They are not nationalities dickhead. They are religions. See? You don't even know the difference between a nationality and a religion...

Why don't you leave this conversation to the adults?

You are like almost every other atheist I have met, you only see the bad that men have committed, you don't weight the good. It is not the fault of religion or God. You are literally throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You have a vague rosy notion of goodness of life without out religion or belief in a Supreme Being. You don't have to imagine what the world would look like, we have ample examples of the 20th century of what a society without God looks like. Your logic is flawed to say the least.

Here is how I imagine a world without God or religion would look like... their religion would be socialism. They would worship big government and social policy. It would be based on atheism and the deification of man. It would proceed in almost all of its manifestations from the assumption that the basic principles guiding the life of the individual and of mankind in general do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts. They would have no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Their doctrine would be abolition of private property, abolition of family and communality or equality. They would practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural marxism and normalization of deviance. They would be identified by an external locus of control. They would worship science but would be the first to argue against it when it did not suit their cause. They would force everyone to believe the same things and think the same way. There would be no diversity of thought, only homogenization of thought.

 

[RWS]

Let's get your stuff straight redneck. Communism was actually a religion. It was a modern-day rendition of Calvinism and Puritanism. But they removed the concept of "God" and replaced it with "country" and "state". Socialism was the oppressive bullshit government that people with money and power put in place, and convinced the followers of Communism that it was necessary in order to get there. And of course, they would never let go of their control once they had it. It was just a farce to make money and gain power for those already in position. Just like every other religion.

BTW, I was kidding about my nationality being half Jewish and half Muslim. Just to see how dumb you are.

They are not nationalities dickhead. They are religions. See? You don't even know the difference between a nationality and a religion...

Why don't you leave this conversation to the adults?

You are like almost every other atheist I have met, you only see the bad that men have committed, you don't weight the good. It is not the fault of religion or God. You are literally throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You a vague rosy notion of goodness of life without out religion or belief in a Supreme Being. You don't have to imagine what the world would look like, we have ample examples of the 20th century of what a society without God looks like. Your logic is flawed to say the least.

Here is how I imagine a world without God or religion would look like... their religion would be socialism. They would worship big government and social policy. It would be based on atheism and the deification of man. It would proceed in almost all of its manifestations from the assumption that the basic principles guiding the life of the individual and of mankind in general do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts. They would have no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Their doctrine would be abolition of private property, abolition of family and communality or equality. They would practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural marxism and normalization of deviance. They would be identified by an external locus of control. They would worship science but would be the first to argue against it when it did not suit their cause. They would force everyone to believe the same things and think the same way. There would be no diversity of thought, only homogenization of thought.

So your view is that non-believers are pretty bad people for humanity, huh? If you were in charge, what would you do with people like us?

 

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Let's get your stuff straight redneck. Communism was actually a religion. It was a modern-day rendition of Calvinism and Puritanism. But they removed the concept of "God" and replaced it with "country" and "state". Socialism was the oppressive bullshit government that people with money and power put in place, and convinced the followers of Communism that it was necessary in order to get there. And of course, they would never let go of their control once they had it. It was just a farce to make money and gain power for those already in position. Just like every other religion.

BTW, I was kidding about my nationality being half Jewish and half Muslim. Just to see how dumb you are.

They are not nationalities dickhead. They are religions. See? You don't even know the difference between a nationality and a religion...

Why don't you leave this conversation to the adults?

You are like almost every other atheist I have met, you only see the bad that men have committed, you don't weight the good. It is not the fault of religion or God. You are literally throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You a vague rosy notion of goodness of life without out religion or belief in a Supreme Being. You don't have to imagine what the world would look like, we have ample examples of the 20th century of what a society without God looks like. Your logic is flawed to say the least.

Here is how I imagine a world without God or religion would look like... their religion would be socialism. They would worship big government and social policy. It would be based on atheism and the deification of man. It would proceed in almost all of its manifestations from the assumption that the basic principles guiding the life of the individual and of mankind in general do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts. They would have no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Their doctrine would be abolition of private property, abolition of family and communality or equality. They would practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural marxism and normalization of deviance. They would be identified by an external locus of control. They would worship science but would be the first to argue against it when it did not suit their cause. They would force everyone to believe the same things and think the same way. There would be no diversity of thought, only homogenization of thought.

So your view is that non-believers are pretty bad people for humanity, huh? If you were in charge, what would you do with people like us?

No. My belief is that militant atheists like yourself are dumbasses because you ignore objective truth. You are a dumbass because you don't weight the good. You are a dumbass because you blame religion or God for acts of men. You are a dumbass for throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You are a dumbass because you have a vague rosy notion of goodness of life without out religion or belief in a Supreme Being. You are a dumbass for ignoring the historical evidence of what a society without God looks like. .

You are a dumbass for not being able to imagine what a world without God or religion would look like. Which is... their religion would be socialism. They would worship big government and social policy. It would be based on atheism and the deification of man. It would proceed in almost all of its manifestations from the assumption that the basic principles guiding the life of the individual and of mankind in general do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts. They would have no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Their doctrine would be abolition of private property, abolition of family and communality or equality. They would practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural marxism and normalization of deviance. They would be identified by an external locus of control. They would worship science but would be the first to argue against it when it did not suit their cause. They would force everyone to believe the same things and think the same way. There would be no diversity of thought, only homogenization of thought.

 

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So your view is that non-believers are pretty bad people for humanity, huh? If you were in charge, what would you do with people like us?

i don't have to do a thing because you dumbasses will Darwinize yourselves out of existence eventually because nature rejects you.

 

[Mudda]

So your view is that non-believers are pretty bad people for humanity, huh? If you were in charge, what would you do with people like us?

i don't have to do a thing because you dumbasses will Darwinize yourselves out of existence eventually because nature rejects you.

Actually, science rejects every one of your theories. I'm sure you're well aware of that, aren't you?

 

[RWS]

Wow.

Just wow....

You're using evolution to argue against the lack of religion?

So while I go to sleep, and you continue posting crazy bs, and copy/pasting stuff you never wrote and plagiarizing yourself, I still suggest you find out what religion your parents are. And what religion their parents were. And their parents. And so on...

I don't think you have ever thought of an original idea in your life. You just regurgitate bullshit mantras that you were taught from birth.

You have never actually sat down, compared different religions and philosophies, and determined which were the most righteous, and which were full of shit. You just blindly repeat what you were taught, and will follow it like a lemming for the rest of your life. You use websites that are run by people just like you, and copy/paste their bullshit onto my screen, and claim it as yours.

You are a total fucking brainwashed unoriginal dickhead. How's that for curses? Oh wait, you're an asshole too!

I know you will never understand that, or anything else that goes against your belief. You say that I only focus on the negative things, and that is why I don't believe in "god". You are so wrong. I only use logic.

But to give you something to do during the wee hours of the morning, what is it that makes you sure that there is a "god"?

And please, do not copy/paste stuff again, or I will post the source...

 

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So your view is that non-believers are pretty bad people for humanity, huh? If you were in charge, what would you do with people like us?

I don't have to do a thing because you dumbasses will Darwinize yourselves out of existence eventually because nature rejects you.

Actually, science rejects every one of your theories. I'm sure you're well aware of that, aren't you?

No. I am not aware of that but I am aware that nature will reject you. Virtue is the greatest organizing principle. You have none. When people behave virtuously, predictable success will NATURALLY follow. That's not going to happen for you. When people behave without virtue, predictable failures will NATURALLY occur. This is what you can expect to happen. How is this not nature accepting or rejecting us? Do you really believe that if there is Creator, He would not leave a way for us to figure out the difference between right and wrong?

Man is born with the ability to know right from wrong and when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept, he rationalizes that he did not violate it. Men don't do evil for evil's sake, they do evil for the sake of their own good. So from this we can know that man prefers good over evil. Since you do not know right from wrong, you will naturally fail.

So getting back to the concept of nature rejecting us, how can we know if we are truly doing good or doing evil and rationalizing that we are doing good? The answer is simple... outcomes. Moral laws are not like physical laws. When you violate a physical law, the consequence is immediate. Not so for moral laws. The consequence of violating a moral law is not usually immediate, but since error cannot stand it will eventually fail. And when it does, if we are honest and paying attention we will come to know the error of our way and repent (i.e. transform). Thus evolving our consciousness (i.e. growing as human beings) and continuing our march towards the next leap in the evolution of matter. But since you reject these principles you are doomed to keep repeating your failures over and over again until you are finally darwinized out of existence.

 

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Wow.

Just wow....

You're using evolution to argue against the lack of religion?

So while I go to sleep, and you continue posting crazy bs, and copy/pasting stuff you never wrote and plagiarizing yourself, I still suggest you find out what religion your parents are. And what religion their parents were. And their parents. And so on...

I don't think you have ever thought of an original idea in your life. You just regurgitate bullshit mantras that you were taught from birth.

You have never actually sat down, compared different religions and philosophies, and determined which were the most righteous, and which were full of shit. You just blindly repeat what you were taught, and will follow it like a lemming for the rest of your life. You use websites that are run by people just like you, and copy/paste their bullshit onto my screen, and claim it as yours.

You are a total fucking brainwashed unoriginal dickhead. How's that for curses? Oh wait, you're an asshole too!

I know you will never understand that, or anything else that goes against your belief. You say that I only focus on the negative things, and that is why I don't believe in "god". You are so wrong. I only use logic.

But to give you something to do during the wee hours of the morning, what is it that makes you sure that there is a "god"?

And please, do not copy/paste stuff again, or I will post the source...

Among other things, yes. But let's not forget that my belief is that militant atheists like yourself are dumbasses because you ignore objective truth. You are a dumbass because you don't weight the good. You are a dumbass because you blame religion or God for acts of men. You are a dumbass for throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You are a dumbass because you have a vague rosy notion of goodness of life without out religion or belief in a Supreme Being. You are a dumbass for ignoring the historical evidence of what a society without God looks like. .

You are a dumbass for not being able to imagine what a world without God or religion would look like. Which is... their religion would be socialism. They would worship big government and social policy. It would be based on atheism and the deification of man. It would proceed in almost all of its manifestations from the assumption that the basic principles guiding the life of the individual and of mankind in general do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts. They would have no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Their doctrine would be abolition of private property, abolition of family and communality or equality. They would practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural marxism and normalization of deviance. They would be identified by an external locus of control. They would worship science but would be the first to argue against it when it did not suit their cause. They would force everyone to believe the same things and think the same way. There would be no diversity of thought, only homogenization of thought.

And that you are a dumbfuck for arguing against the Founding Fathers of liberty and freedom and that you are a dumbfuck for agreeing with the founding fathers of communism. Don't lose sight of these things either.

 

[Mudda]

So your view is that non-believers are pretty bad people for humanity, huh? If you were in charge, what would you do with people like us?

I don't have to do a thing because you dumbasses will Darwinize yourselves out of existence eventually because nature rejects you.

Actually, science rejects every one of your theories. I'm sure you're well aware of that, aren't you?

No. I am not aware of that but I am aware that nature will reject you. Virtue is the greatest organizing principle. You have none. When people behave virtuously, predictable success will NATURALLY follow. That's not going to happen for you. When people behave without virtue, predictable failures will NATURALLY occur. This is what you can expect to happen. How is this not nature accepting or rejecting us? Do you really believe that if there is Creator, He would not leave a way for us to figure out the difference between right and wrong?

Man is born with the ability to know right from wrong and when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept, he rationalizes that he did not violate it. Men don't do evil for evil's sake, they do evil for the sake of their own good. So from this we can know that man prefers good over evil. Since you do not know right from wrong, you will naturally fail.

So getting back to the concept of nature rejecting us, how can we know if we are truly doing good or doing evil and rationalizing that we are doing good? The answer is simple... outcomes. Moral laws are not like physical laws. When you violate a physical law, the consequence is immediate. Not so for moral laws. The consequence of violating a moral law is not usually immediate, but since error cannot stand it will eventually fail. And when it does, if we are honest and paying attention we will come to know the error of our way and repent (i.e. transform). Thus evolving our consciousness (i.e. growing as human beings) and continuing our march towards the next leap in the evolution of matter. But since you reject these principles you are doomed to keep repeating your failures over and over again until you are finally darwinized out of existence.

So why do virtuous people get cancer and have other bad things happen to them? See how easy it is to show you that you fail again.

 

[BreezeWood]

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that was the point for why his question had no merit ... you are simply enumerating majority rules whether good or evil where the latter under christianity has prevailed as somehow different than the simple evil that it is.
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I am arguing the exact opposite. Everyone else except grump has been arguing for mob rules.

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... christianity - as somehow different than the simple evil that it is.

I am arguing the exact opposite.

no, you are not, you agreed as a christian with G that the times make a difference and did not dispute history provides the evidence christianity is a biased religion - of evil.

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I have no doubt that is how you read it.

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I have no doubt that is how you read it.

history is replete with the evils of christianity as though their maturing was ever by their own accord, as exemplified by bing.

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Why am I not surprised that you would see it that way.

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Why am I not surprised that you would see it that way.

finally a worthy comment, and how do you see it christian ....

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I am arguing the exact opposite. Everyone else except grump has been arguing for mob rules.

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... christianity - as somehow different than the simple evil that it is.

I am arguing the exact opposite.

no, you are not, you agreed as a christian with G that the times make a difference and did not dispute history provides the evidence christianity is a biased religion - of evil.

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I have no doubt that is how you read it.

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I have no doubt that is how you read it.

history is replete with the evils of christianity as though their maturing was ever by their own accord, as exemplified by bing.

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Why am I not surprised that you would see it that way.

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Why am I not surprised that you would see it that way.

finally a worthy comment, and how do you see it christian ....

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I see it like you are like almost every atheist I have met, you only see the bad that men have committed, you don't weight the good. It is not the fault of religion. You are literally throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You have a vague rosy notion of goodness of life without out religion. You don't have to imagine what the world would look like, we have ample examples of the 20th century of what a society without religion looks like. Your logic is flawed to say the least.

Here is how I imagine a world without religion would look like... their religion would be socialism. They would worship big government and social policy. It would be based on atheism and the deification of man. It would proceed in almost all of its manifestations from the assumption that the basic principles guiding the life of the individual and of mankind in general do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts. They would have no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Their doctrine would be abolition of private property, abolition of family and communality or equality. They would practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural marxism and normalization of deviance. They would be identified by an external locus of control. They would worship science but would be the first to argue against it when it did not suit their cause. They would force everyone to believe the same things and think the same way. There would be no diversity of thought, only homogenization of thought.

The fact that you don't see any good done by men because of religion means that you are not objective about this at all.

 

[BreezeWood]

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no, you are not, you agreed as a christian with G that the times make a difference and did not dispute history provides the evidence christianity is a biased religion - of evil.

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I have no doubt that is how you read it.

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I have no doubt that is how you read it.

history is replete with the evils of christianity as though their maturing was ever by their own accord, as exemplified by bing.

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Why am I not surprised that you would see it that way.

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Why am I not surprised that you would see it that way.

finally a worthy comment, and how do you see it christian ....

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I see it like you are like almost every atheist I have met, you only see the bad that men have committed, you don't weight the good. It is not the fault of religion. You are literally throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You have a vague rosy notion of goodness of life without out religion. You don't have to imagine what the world would look like, we have ample examples of the 20th century of what a society without religion looks like. Your logic is flawed to say the least.

Here is how I imagine a world without religion would look like... their religion would be socialism. They would worship big government and social policy. It would be based on atheism and the deification of man. It would proceed in almost all of its manifestations from the assumption that the basic principles guiding the life of the individual and of mankind in general do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts. They would have no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Their doctrine would be abolition of private property, abolition of family and communality or equality. They would practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural marxism and normalization of deviance. They would be identified by an external locus of control. They would worship science but would be the first to argue against it when it did not suit their cause. They would force everyone to believe the same things and think the same way. There would be no diversity of thought, only homogenization of thought.

The fact that you don't see any good done by men because of religion means that you are not objective about this at all.

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your response was not an answer to the question.

I see it like you are like almost every atheist I have met, you only see the bad that men have committed, you don't weight the good.

it is christianity that is blind ...

The fact that you don't see any good done by men because of religion means that you are not objective about this at all.

that has not been its role in history as pointed out to you already, you are the one who claims Jesus was crucified for being a capitalist not for their religion as astonishing as that may be ...

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I have no doubt that is how you read it.

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I have no doubt that is how you read it.

history is replete with the evils of christianity as though their maturing was ever by their own accord, as exemplified by bing.

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Why am I not surprised that you would see it that way.

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Why am I not surprised that you would see it that way.

finally a worthy comment, and how do you see it christian ....

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I see it like you are like almost every atheist I have met, you only see the bad that men have committed, you don't weight the good. It is not the fault of religion. You are literally throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You have a vague rosy notion of goodness of life without out religion. You don't have to imagine what the world would look like, we have ample examples of the 20th century of what a society without religion looks like. Your logic is flawed to say the least.

Here is how I imagine a world without religion would look like... their religion would be socialism. They would worship big government and social policy. It would be based on atheism and the deification of man. It would proceed in almost all of its manifestations from the assumption that the basic principles guiding the life of the individual and of mankind in general do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts. They would have no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Their doctrine would be abolition of private property, abolition of family and communality or equality. They would practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural marxism and normalization of deviance. They would be identified by an external locus of control. They would worship science but would be the first to argue against it when it did not suit their cause. They would force everyone to believe the same things and think the same way. There would be no diversity of thought, only homogenization of thought.

The fact that you don't see any good done by men because of religion means that you are not objective about this at all.

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your response was not an answer to the question.

I see it like you are like almost every atheist I have met, you only see the bad that men have committed, you don't weight the good.

it is christianity that is blind ...

The fact that you don't see any good done by men because of religion means that you are not objective about this at all.

that has not been its role in history as pointed out to you already, you are the one who claims Jesus was crucified for being a capitalist not for their religion as astonishing as that may be ...

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Do you want to abolish religion?

 

[BreezeWood]

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history is replete with the evils of christianity as though their maturing was ever by their own accord, as exemplified by bing.

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Why am I not surprised that you would see it that way.

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Why am I not surprised that you would see it that way.

finally a worthy comment, and how do you see it christian ....

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I see it like you are like almost every atheist I have met, you only see the bad that men have committed, you don't weight the good. It is not the fault of religion. You are literally throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You have a vague rosy notion of goodness of life without out religion. You don't have to imagine what the world would look like, we have ample examples of the 20th century of what a society without religion looks like. Your logic is flawed to say the least.

Here is how I imagine a world without religion would look like... their religion would be socialism. They would worship big government and social policy. It would be based on atheism and the deification of man. It would proceed in almost all of its manifestations from the assumption that the basic principles guiding the life of the individual and of mankind in general do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts. They would have no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Their doctrine would be abolition of private property, abolition of family and communality or equality. They would practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural marxism and normalization of deviance. They would be identified by an external locus of control. They would worship science but would be the first to argue against it when it did not suit their cause. They would force everyone to believe the same things and think the same way. There would be no diversity of thought, only homogenization of thought.

The fact that you don't see any good done by men because of religion means that you are not objective about this at all.

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your response was not an answer to the question.

I see it like you are like almost every atheist I have met, you only see the bad that men have committed, you don't weight the good.

it is christianity that is blind ...

The fact that you don't see any good done by men because of religion means that you are not objective about this at all.

that has not been its role in history as pointed out to you already, you are the one who claims Jesus was crucified for being a capitalist not for their religion as astonishing as that may be ...

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Do you want to abolish religion?

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Do you want to abolish religion?

answer the question above, have you repentance for your crime christian ... the gale would like to know. without her you are doomed.


neither the religious nor atheist have an inside track for admission to the Everlasting only the Triumph of Good vs Evil will prevail. not chritianity, judaism nor islam; Noah's parable is the religion of the bible. the spoken religion of the Almighty.

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Why am I not surprised that you would see it that way.

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Why am I not surprised that you would see it that way.

finally a worthy comment, and how do you see it christian ....

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I see it like you are like almost every atheist I have met, you only see the bad that men have committed, you don't weight the good. It is not the fault of religion. You are literally throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You have a vague rosy notion of goodness of life without out religion. You don't have to imagine what the world would look like, we have ample examples of the 20th century of what a society without religion looks like. Your logic is flawed to say the least.

Here is how I imagine a world without religion would look like... their religion would be socialism. They would worship big government and social policy. It would be based on atheism and the deification of man. It would proceed in almost all of its manifestations from the assumption that the basic principles guiding the life of the individual and of mankind in general do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts. They would have no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Their doctrine would be abolition of private property, abolition of family and communality or equality. They would practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural marxism and normalization of deviance. They would be identified by an external locus of control. They would worship science but would be the first to argue against it when it did not suit their cause. They would force everyone to believe the same things and think the same way. There would be no diversity of thought, only homogenization of thought.

The fact that you don't see any good done by men because of religion means that you are not objective about this at all.

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your response was not an answer to the question.

I see it like you are like almost every atheist I have met, you only see the bad that men have committed, you don't weight the good.

it is christianity that is blind ...

The fact that you don't see any good done by men because of religion means that you are not objective about this at all.

that has not been its role in history as pointed out to you already, you are the one who claims Jesus was crucified for being a capitalist not for their religion as astonishing as that may be ...

.

Do you want to abolish religion?

.

Do you want to abolish religion?

answer the question above, have you repentance for your crime christian ... the gale would like to know. without her you are doomed.


neither the religious nor atheist have an inside track for admission to the Everlasting only the Triumph of Good vs Evil will prevail. not chritianity, judaism nor islam; Noah's parable is the religion of the bible. the spoken religion of the Almighty.

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Sure just as soon as you tell me if you want to abolish Christianity, ok?

 

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Hey guess what?

I woke up, and nature didn't reject me!

I'm still here!

Hi five!!!!