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If God is all powerful...

When the glaciers melted after the last ice age, sea levels roses and some coastal cities went underwater, like you showed in your links. It didn't melt all at once, the ice retreated over time. So no 40 day flood from that event, and there wasn't enough water melted to cover the whole earth over the mountain tops. So no, that's not scientific proof of the biblical flood. Only proof of sea rising after the ice sheet melted. So where is the geologic evidence of a world wide flood?
/----/ I was taught the Bible referred to the known world at the time. How would the authors know about the Western Hemisphere? The area flooded in 1656 AM would have been thought of as the entire world (Middle east) at the time the book was written.
The Masoretic Text of the Torah places the Great Deluge 1,656 years after Creation, or 1656 AM (Anno Mundi, "Year of the World").
There was still no regional 40 day flood that topped mountains. No geologic proof for that.

No proof.
Plenty of evidence.
Like what?
Life
Your evidence for a 40 day flood is "life"? :cuckoo:
 
/----/ I was taught the Bible referred to the known world at the time. How would the authors know about the Western Hemisphere? The area flooded in 1656 AM would have been thought of as the entire world (Middle east) at the time the book was written.
The Masoretic Text of the Torah places the Great Deluge 1,656 years after Creation, or 1656 AM (Anno Mundi, "Year of the World").
There was still no regional 40 day flood that topped mountains. No geologic proof for that.

No proof.
Plenty of evidence.
Like what?
Life
Your evidence for a 40 day flood is "life"? :cuckoo:
I wouldn't laugh, if I were you. You quite recently said that smaller doors are *proof* that man has evolved, but was not created.

And you were serious.
 
There was still no regional 40 day flood that topped mountains. No geologic proof for that.

No proof.
Plenty of evidence.
Like what?
Life
Your evidence for a 40 day flood is "life"? :cuckoo:
I wouldn't laugh, if I were you. You quite recently said that smaller doors are *proof* that man has evolved, but was not created.

And you were serious.
There’s no proof that man was created out of thin air in its present form by an equally unproven god being. Zero.
 
I bet you believe that a tiny scrap of bone is all the proof you need for the Theory of Evolution.

As, according to the Bible, God gave Man dominium over the animals (which includes domesticating them to enable Man to live), it is not at all illogical to assume God would wish Man to save the animals necessary for Man's wellbeing.

My final answer is that you are an ignorant, uneducated fool, but I will give you 10 points for consistency.
So you have no proof of the flood but believe it anyways.

And "God gave Man dominium"? I've never heard of that element, you make that up?

I believe there was a worldwide flood. Every major religion that I'm aware of tells of one, even the Popol Vuh, and many old legends and myths tell of one. Even Plato had an account of a sunken city/continent.

It happened around ten thousand years ago when the mile thick ice sheets covering North America, Europe, and part of Asia, melted. Then there's the cities that are sunk in hundreds of feet of water...

The Exceptional Underwater City of Cuba: A New Theory on its Origins – Part I

Japan's Ancient Underwater "Pyramid" Mystifies Scholars

Sunken City off India Coast - 7500 B.C.

...off the coasts of Cuba, Japan, and India.

Are you going to accept my scientific proof that a flood happened at that time or do you want to tell me were all that water went?

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When the glaciers melted after the last ice age, sea levels roses and some coastal cities went underwater, like you showed in your links. It didn't melt all at once, the ice retreated over time. So no 40 day flood from that event, and there wasn't enough water melted to cover the whole earth over the mountain tops. So no, that's not scientific proof of the biblical flood. Only proof of sea rising after the ice sheet melted. So where is the geologic evidence of a world wide flood?

/----/ I was taught the Bible referred to the known world at the time. How would the authors know about the Western Hemisphere? The area flooded in 1656 AM would have been thought of as the entire world (Middle east) at the time the book was written.
The Masoretic Text of the Torah places the Great Deluge 1,656 years after Creation, or 1656 AM (Anno Mundi, "Year of the World").

There was still no regional 40 day flood that topped mountains. No geologic proof for that.


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And yet you're more than willing to accept that some bones that don't even look human prove that humankind descended from the apes. It appears you're more than willing to accept only those things that fit your agenda.

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:)
 
And yet you're more than willing to accept that some bones that don't even look human prove that humankind descended from the apes.
Of course they "look human", which is why scientists peg them as possibly being from an ancestor of humans. What a stupid thing to say.
 
Thus proving your statement that you are agnostic was always a lie.
God can't be proven by science, when they can prove it come back, THEN I won't be agnostic anymore. :biggrin:
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Science proves my God's existence every day.

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You have nothing, got it.


th


You have it reversed.

You have nothing and I have all the proof of God's existence.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)

So you can prove the god of the bible?

It is the only religion that claims to be God seeking man, Taz.
 
Seems to me you are trying to assert that unless everything is perfect there can be no God.
No, I’m asking why god makes deformed babies.

th


Who are you to judge what's normal and what's deformed?

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:)

There are kids born with cancer and in pain until they die. Why did god make them?


th


Why wouldn't God make them?

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:)

That’s a stupid answer. If your god makes those people on purpose, he’s a fucking douchebag.

Or you lack complete information.
 
Its the story of the Jewish people and their struggle to remain sane in a world where they were surrounded more powerful nations filled with superstitious, irrational and violent knuckle dragging barbarians.
Wrong. The 1st eleven chapters of the Bible records the history that all nations have in common.


That is certainly not true.

Adam was not the first human being. Genesis is not a historical account of the origins of humanity the beginning of the universe or solar system.

The talking serpent shows that people were already in existence, no other creature on earth but humans speak to other humans, not to mention the fact that when the children of Adam and Eve wanted to find a mate they went to a city that was already populated.

There is no mention of the origins of those people other than by allusion when speaking of the wild beasts of the field that the Lord God had also made.

Pay attention to what you read....Did you never go to high school and take a science class? Never heard about the age of the universe, the sun or the earth? Never hear about the origin of species? Neanderthals, Denisovans?

How does all of that fit into your fantasy? Do you just walk around in a stupor every day?

Damn.
Apparently you don’t understand it is an allegorical account.
 
So you have no proof of the flood but believe it anyways.

And "God gave Man dominium"? I've never heard of that element, you make that up?

I believe there was a worldwide flood. Every major religion that I'm aware of tells of one, even the Popol Vuh, and many old legends and myths tell of one. Even Plato had an account of a sunken city/continent.

It happened around ten thousand years ago when the mile thick ice sheets covering North America, Europe, and part of Asia, melted. Then there's the cities that are sunk in hundreds of feet of water...

The Exceptional Underwater City of Cuba: A New Theory on its Origins – Part I

Japan's Ancient Underwater "Pyramid" Mystifies Scholars

Sunken City off India Coast - 7500 B.C.

...off the coasts of Cuba, Japan, and India.

Are you going to accept my scientific proof that a flood happened at that time or do you want to tell me were all that water went?

th


*****SMILE*****



:)

When the glaciers melted after the last ice age, sea levels roses and some coastal cities went underwater, like you showed in your links. It didn't melt all at once, the ice retreated over time. So no 40 day flood from that event, and there wasn't enough water melted to cover the whole earth over the mountain tops. So no, that's not scientific proof of the biblical flood. Only proof of sea rising after the ice sheet melted. So where is the geologic evidence of a world wide flood?

/----/ I was taught the Bible referred to the known world at the time. How would the authors know about the Western Hemisphere? The area flooded in 1656 AM would have been thought of as the entire world (Middle east) at the time the book was written.
The Masoretic Text of the Torah places the Great Deluge 1,656 years after Creation, or 1656 AM (Anno Mundi, "Year of the World").

There was still no regional 40 day flood that topped mountains. No geologic proof for that.


th


And yet you're more than willing to accept that some bones that don't even look human prove that humankind descended from the apes. It appears you're more than willing to accept only those things that fit your agenda.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)

Evolution of humans is an on-going science, unlike the 40 day flood which has zero science behind it.
 
God can't be proven by science, when they can prove it come back, THEN I won't be agnostic anymore. :biggrin:
th


Science proves my God's existence every day.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)

You have nothing, got it.


th


You have it reversed.

You have nothing and I have all the proof of God's existence.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)

So you can prove the god of the bible?

It is the only religion that claims to be God seeking man, Taz.

So how is that proof? Of what?
 
No, I’m asking why god makes deformed babies.

th


Who are you to judge what's normal and what's deformed?

*****SMILE*****



:)

There are kids born with cancer and in pain until they die. Why did god make them?


th


Why wouldn't God make them?

*****SMILE*****



:)

That’s a stupid answer. If your god makes those people on purpose, he’s a fucking douchebag.

Or you lack complete information.

Or you worship a douchebag.
 
I believe there was a worldwide flood. Every major religion that I'm aware of tells of one, even the Popol Vuh, and many old legends and myths tell of one. Even Plato had an account of a sunken city/continent.

It happened around ten thousand years ago when the mile thick ice sheets covering North America, Europe, and part of Asia, melted. Then there's the cities that are sunk in hundreds of feet of water...

The Exceptional Underwater City of Cuba: A New Theory on its Origins – Part I

Japan's Ancient Underwater "Pyramid" Mystifies Scholars

Sunken City off India Coast - 7500 B.C.

...off the coasts of Cuba, Japan, and India.

Are you going to accept my scientific proof that a flood happened at that time or do you want to tell me were all that water went?

th


*****SMILE*****



:)

When the glaciers melted after the last ice age, sea levels roses and some coastal cities went underwater, like you showed in your links. It didn't melt all at once, the ice retreated over time. So no 40 day flood from that event, and there wasn't enough water melted to cover the whole earth over the mountain tops. So no, that's not scientific proof of the biblical flood. Only proof of sea rising after the ice sheet melted. So where is the geologic evidence of a world wide flood?

/----/ I was taught the Bible referred to the known world at the time. How would the authors know about the Western Hemisphere? The area flooded in 1656 AM would have been thought of as the entire world (Middle east) at the time the book was written.
The Masoretic Text of the Torah places the Great Deluge 1,656 years after Creation, or 1656 AM (Anno Mundi, "Year of the World").

There was still no regional 40 day flood that topped mountains. No geologic proof for that.


th


And yet you're more than willing to accept that some bones that don't even look human prove that humankind descended from the apes. It appears you're more than willing to accept only those things that fit your agenda.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)

Evolution of humans is an on-going science, unlike the 40 day flood which has zero science behind it.

/-----/ What kind of science could there be behind a flood that occured 5,000 years ago? Recorded stories aren't good enough for you? It appears you'd reject any thing offered as evidence. New Evidence Suggests Biblical Great Flood Happened
 
When the glaciers melted after the last ice age, sea levels roses and some coastal cities went underwater, like you showed in your links. It didn't melt all at once, the ice retreated over time. So no 40 day flood from that event, and there wasn't enough water melted to cover the whole earth over the mountain tops. So no, that's not scientific proof of the biblical flood. Only proof of sea rising after the ice sheet melted. So where is the geologic evidence of a world wide flood?
/----/ I was taught the Bible referred to the known world at the time. How would the authors know about the Western Hemisphere? The area flooded in 1656 AM would have been thought of as the entire world (Middle east) at the time the book was written.
The Masoretic Text of the Torah places the Great Deluge 1,656 years after Creation, or 1656 AM (Anno Mundi, "Year of the World").
There was still no regional 40 day flood that topped mountains. No geologic proof for that.

th


And yet you're more than willing to accept that some bones that don't even look human prove that humankind descended from the apes. It appears you're more than willing to accept only those things that fit your agenda.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)

Evolution of humans is an on-going science, unlike the 40 day flood which has zero science behind it.

/-----/ What kind of science could there be behind a flood that occured 5,000 years ago? Recorded stories aren't good enough for you? It appears you'd reject any thing offered as evidence. New Evidence Suggests Biblical Great Flood Happened

A worldwide flood lasting 40 days topping the mountains would leave geologic evidence, of which there is none. Santa Claus is a story as well, you believe in him too? As for your link, there's no scientific data there backing up a biblical flood.
 
/----/ I was taught the Bible referred to the known world at the time. How would the authors know about the Western Hemisphere? The area flooded in 1656 AM would have been thought of as the entire world (Middle east) at the time the book was written.
The Masoretic Text of the Torah places the Great Deluge 1,656 years after Creation, or 1656 AM (Anno Mundi, "Year of the World").
There was still no regional 40 day flood that topped mountains. No geologic proof for that.

th


And yet you're more than willing to accept that some bones that don't even look human prove that humankind descended from the apes. It appears you're more than willing to accept only those things that fit your agenda.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)

Evolution of humans is an on-going science, unlike the 40 day flood which has zero science behind it.

/-----/ What kind of science could there be behind a flood that occured 5,000 years ago? Recorded stories aren't good enough for you? It appears you'd reject any thing offered as evidence. New Evidence Suggests Biblical Great Flood Happened

A worldwide flood lasting 40 days topping the mountains would leave geologic evidence, of which there is none. Santa Claus is a story as well, you believe in him too? As for your link, there's no scientific data there backing up a biblical flood.

/----/ How quickly can you ignore this evidence from the Smithsonian? And do you get headaches playing stupid 24/7?
Evidence for a Flood | Science | Smithsonian
 
There was still no regional 40 day flood that topped mountains. No geologic proof for that.

th


And yet you're more than willing to accept that some bones that don't even look human prove that humankind descended from the apes. It appears you're more than willing to accept only those things that fit your agenda.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)

Evolution of humans is an on-going science, unlike the 40 day flood which has zero science behind it.

/-----/ What kind of science could there be behind a flood that occured 5,000 years ago? Recorded stories aren't good enough for you? It appears you'd reject any thing offered as evidence. New Evidence Suggests Biblical Great Flood Happened

A worldwide flood lasting 40 days topping the mountains would leave geologic evidence, of which there is none. Santa Claus is a story as well, you believe in him too? As for your link, there's no scientific data there backing up a biblical flood.

/----/ How quickly can you ignore this evidence from the Smithsonian? And do you get headaches playing stupid 24/7?
Evidence for a Flood | Science | Smithsonian

Yes, I know about that flood, it was a regional flood, not worldwide, not 40 days, not topping the mountains. Please try again.
 
th


And yet you're more than willing to accept that some bones that don't even look human prove that humankind descended from the apes. It appears you're more than willing to accept only those things that fit your agenda.

*****CHUCKLE*****



:)

Evolution of humans is an on-going science, unlike the 40 day flood which has zero science behind it.

/-----/ What kind of science could there be behind a flood that occured 5,000 years ago? Recorded stories aren't good enough for you? It appears you'd reject any thing offered as evidence. New Evidence Suggests Biblical Great Flood Happened

A worldwide flood lasting 40 days topping the mountains would leave geologic evidence, of which there is none. Santa Claus is a story as well, you believe in him too? As for your link, there's no scientific data there backing up a biblical flood.

/----/ How quickly can you ignore this evidence from the Smithsonian? And do you get headaches playing stupid 24/7?
Evidence for a Flood | Science | Smithsonian

Yes, I know about that flood, it was a regional flood, not worldwide, not 40 days, not topping the mountains. Please try again.

/-----/ Thanks for proving my point. And frankly my dear I don't give a damn what you believe.
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Evolution of humans is an on-going science, unlike the 40 day flood which has zero science behind it.
/-----/ What kind of science could there be behind a flood that occured 5,000 years ago? Recorded stories aren't good enough for you? It appears you'd reject any thing offered as evidence. New Evidence Suggests Biblical Great Flood Happened
A worldwide flood lasting 40 days topping the mountains would leave geologic evidence, of which there is none. Santa Claus is a story as well, you believe in him too? As for your link, there's no scientific data there backing up a biblical flood.
/----/ How quickly can you ignore this evidence from the Smithsonian? And do you get headaches playing stupid 24/7?
Evidence for a Flood | Science | Smithsonian
Yes, I know about that flood, it was a regional flood, not worldwide, not 40 days, not topping the mountains. Please try again.
/-----/ Thanks for proving my point. And frankly my dear I don't give a damn what you believe.
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It's not what I believe, it's what science says. You're in the belief business because you don't like what science says. See the difference?
 
If there is no God, then how did all of this get here? Evolutionists say the big bang.

Ok, so according to the big bang, there was nothing, and then all of this exploded into existence, from nothing.

Even if there was material out there to cause a big bang, where did that material come from?

How did life start? An explosion of that magnitude would eliminate any living organism, essentially leaving nothing but dead material, no organisms, no parasites or anything could survive that.

I'm sure you could say that over millions of years, everything clumped together and eventually an atmosphere formed, and a greenhouse effect cause algae and most to form...but that would have just evolved into plant life, and doesnt explain where sentient life came from.

Evolutionists say we started as amoebas that eventually became reptiles that eventually became primates that eventually became human. My question is, where did the seed that spawned the first life come from? Again, the big bang couldn't have left anything living, not with that pressure, heat, and intensity.

Seems like it would take more of a leap of faith to believe this all just happened randomly from nothing, than to believe in a God that always was and always will be, that created everything.

Then you get into the whole missing link thing, where they cant find any evidence of evolutionary progress. We have primates, and we have humans, but nothing in between, as far as I know.
 
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Also, you would think that in an evolutionary system, there would be different kinds of humans. Essentially, we all look the same, aside from skin color. We dont see any variation of humans other that slight feature differences and skin color. Inside, we are all identical.

As far as we know, there are no other planets with life. In evolution, you would think that life would adapt to the conditions that existed on the planet it was on. Yet, we see no evidence of life on any other planet.

Again, there just seems to be too many unanswered questions to the evolutionary theory, that make it just as hard to believe as creationism.
 

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