If God is all powerful...

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Well. You didn't " win" WW2, or any other war for that matter.

But but but, so many people were praying! Why didn't it work?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He thinks we need to learn to fend for ourselves

According to what? Not the Bible

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

God is not a concierge. He does not exist to serve us

Of course he does. Who else would he serve? His God?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

...Why does it makes babies with cancer, or retarded, or deformed, or in pain, or even with all of that together? Is god not capable of a perfect creation? Is it a punishment of some sort?

/----/ God doesn't answer to you, Bozo.

lol. I am amazed too. "God I cant create a Universe..but I've got a complaint..."

The hubris of the lout.

Well if Mr. Sensitive (God) didn't want us scrutinizing his bad design, maybe he should not have created sentient creatures.

 

[mudwhistle]

He thinks we need to learn to fend for ourselves

According to what? Not the Bible

Yes. According to the Bible. Faith is important.

“The god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ” (2 Corinthians 4:4).​

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He thinks we need to learn to fend for ourselves

According to what? Not the Bible

Yes. According to the Bible. Faith is important.

“The god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ” (2 Corinthians 4:4).​

That didn't support your claim, to which I responded, in any way whatsoever.

 

[mudwhistle]

He thinks we need to learn to fend for ourselves

According to what? Not the Bible

Yes. According to the Bible. Faith is important.

“The god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ” (2 Corinthians 4:4).​

That didn't support your claim, to which I responded, in any way whatsoever.

Then you must be one of those unbelievers he was speaking of.
Free will and faith.

Figure it out.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He thinks we need to learn to fend for ourselves

According to what? Not the Bible

Yes. According to the Bible. Faith is important.

“The god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ” (2 Corinthians 4:4).​

That didn't support your claim, to which I responded, in any way whatsoever.

Then you must be one of those unbelievers he was speaking of.
Free will and faith.

Figure it out.

No, I think you should explain. You are the expert on this magical bullshit, not me.

 

[onefour1]

God is all powerful in the sense that he can do all that is possible. However, there are things that are eternally impossible that not even God can do. A being who can do all that is possible is said to be all powerful. A few examples of things that are eternally impossible are:

• God cannot both exist and not exist.
• God cannot create from nothing that which self exists.
• God cannot be an all good being and at the same time be an all evil being.

Before man/woman was formed with a spirit body and a physical body, he/she self existed as intelligence.

Doctrine and Covenants 93:29
29 Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be.

The very core of mankind is intelligence. It is self existent and was not created or made. Because of the self existent nature of intelligence, God could not create that part of mankind. The intelligence of mankind is not in a perfect state. Since God could create the intelligence of mankind, He was left to bring about the perfection of mankind in another way. Mankind would have to learn to choose perfection through a process of learning and experiencing many things. To become a perfect being like God, man would need to have many of the same attributes as God. God is a being of free will. Nobody tells God what to do. He does good continually of his own choosing. To become like God, man would of necessity need to have free will. You can't become like God by force. You have to choose to be like him and love it. God has commanded us:

Matthew 5:48
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

In this statement, God recognizes that we are imperfect beings but commands us to be perfect, even as our Father in heaven is perfect. God would not give us a commandment that would be impossible for us to fulfill. It may take longer that this life time to accomplish such a high and lofty goal, but it is possible. Part of the learning and experiences that mankind must go through to gain knowledge and understanding comes if the form of hardship and adversity. You might say that this life is a school of hard knocks. But if we make the right choices and learn to choose good over evil, we will be on the path to fulfilling his commandment. Some will fail to grasp the importance of being a good being. They will fall short of being able to abide by the celestial law of the kingdom of heaven. Thus there will be other places provided by God for them to go. God's desire is that we all would choose good. But given free will, God does not interfere in our choices unless the choices we make would interfere with the overall plan he has set. For example, if God has chosen an individual that he wants to lead in his kingdom on earth, he may thwart the desires of any who desire to harm or kill that individual.

Some of the hardships of this life might be that we suffer the loss of children who get a disease and die. This may be difficult to bear now, but may be for our eternal progression in the eternity to come. It may be that some of God's spirits are so advanced that they do not need the experiences of this life but only need to receive a body. We don't have all the answers, but little children who die before the age of accountability are alive in Christ and stand to inherit eternal glory.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And apparently, god can't figure out that there should be more space between our pooping holes and our pleasure holes.

 

[ding]

...Why does it makes babies with cancer, or retarded, or deformed, or in pain, or even with all of that together? Is god not capable of a perfect creation? Is it a punishment of some sort?

The Devil has dominion of the Earth.

So the devil is more powerful than god?

No......God isn't a Socialist.
He thinks we need to learn to fend for ourselves.

Clearly we are left to our own device but he did not leave us without resources.

 

[ding]

Well. You didn't " win" WW2, or any other war for that matter.

But but but, so many people were praying! Why didn't it work?

How do you define success? Maybe you don't understand the purpose of prayer. Maybe you lack complete knowledge.

 

[Meriweather]

...Why does it makes babies with cancer, or retarded, or deformed, or in pain, or even with all of that together? Is god not capable of a perfect creation? Is it a punishment of some sort?

Genesis tells us mankind's desire was to know both good and evil. If all is good and perfect, how can the desire to know evil be fulfilled?

 

[ding]

He thinks we need to learn to fend for ourselves

According to what? Not the Bible

Reality. You have an erroneous view of what faith is and how it works for good in our lives in practical ways in real life.

But sure, if you set your mind right, you can see that as a message in the Book you make fun of.

 

[ding]

He thinks we need to learn to fend for ourselves

According to what? Not the Bible

Yes. According to the Bible. Faith is important.

“The god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ” (2 Corinthians 4:4).​

That didn't support your claim, to which I responded, in any way whatsoever.

Then you must be one of those unbelievers he was speaking of.
Free will and faith.

Figure it out.

No, I think you should explain. You are the expert on this magical bullshit, not me.

Faith and prayer alters the fabric of our identity especially so during times of challenge. There is purpose in everything. If you find it, it brings peace.

 

[BreezeWood]

...Why does it makes babies with cancer, or retarded, or deformed, or in pain, or even with all of that together? Is god not capable of a perfect creation? Is it a punishment of some sort?

Genesis tells us mankind's desire was to know both good and evil. If all is good and perfect, how can the desire to know evil be fulfilled?

.

Genesis tells us mankind's desire was to know both good and evil. If all is good and perfect, how can the desire to know evil be fulfilled?

that's your 4th century book, knowing and being evil they learned well, the events of the 1st century was a rarity being for only the good.

 

[Cellblock2429]

God is all powerful in the sense that he can do all that is possible. However, there are things that are eternally impossible that not even God can do. A being who can do all that is possible is said to be all powerful. A few examples of things that are eternally impossible are:

• God cannot both exist and not exist.
• God cannot create from nothing that which self exists.
• God cannot be an all good being and at the same time be an all evil being.

Before man/woman was formed with a spirit body and a physical body, he/she self existed as intelligence.

Doctrine and Covenants 93:29
29 Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be.

The very core of mankind is intelligence. It is self existent and was not created or made. Because of the self existent nature of intelligence, God could not create that part of mankind. The intelligence of mankind is not in a perfect state. Since God could create the intelligence of mankind, He was left to bring about the perfection of mankind in another way. Mankind would have to learn to choose perfection through a process of learning and experiencing many things. To become a perfect being like God, man would need to have many of the same attributes as God. God is a being of free will. Nobody tells God what to do. He does good continually of his own choosing. To become like God, man would of necessity need to have free will. You can't become like God by force. You have to choose to be like him and love it. God has commanded us:

Matthew 5:48
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

In this statement, God recognizes that we are imperfect beings but commands us to be perfect, even as our Father in heaven is perfect. God would not give us a commandment that would be impossible for us to fulfill. It may take longer that this life time to accomplish such a high and lofty goal, but it is possible. Part of the learning and experiences that mankind must go through to gain knowledge and understanding comes if the form of hardship and adversity. You might say that this life is a school of hard knocks. But if we make the right choices and learn to choose good over evil, we will be on the path to fulfilling his commandment. Some will fail to grasp the importance of being a good being. They will fall short of being able to abide by the celestial law of the kingdom of heaven. Thus there will be other places provided by God for them to go. God's desire is that we all would choose good. But given free will, God does not interfere in our choices unless the choices we make would interfere with the overall plan he has set. For example, if God has chosen an individual that he wants to lead in his kingdom on earth, he may thwart the desires of any who desire to harm or kill that individual.

Some of the hardships of this life might be that we suffer the loss of children who get a disease and die. This may be difficult to bear now, but may be for our eternal progression in the eternity to come. It may be that some of God's spirits are so advanced that they do not need the experiences of this life but only need to receive a body. We don't have all the answers, but little children who die before the age of accountability are alive in Christ and stand to inherit eternal glory.

/——-/Yet God exists for the believers while at the same time does not exist for the atheist.

 

[Andylusion]

...Why does it makes babies with cancer, or retarded, or deformed, or in pain, or even with all of that together? Is god not capable of a perfect creation? Is it a punishment of some sort?

G-d created a perfect world, where there was no evil, sin, cancer, deformity, or pain.

Man ruined that world, by rebelling against G-d. The Bible says that all of nature itself, groans. Romans 8:22.

This world, and everything in it, is not the way G-d intended it to be. It is this way because humans have rebelled and rejected G-d.

All of the consequences of that, including cancer and deformity, are the result of our actions rejecting G-d.

If you trip over something in the dark, you don't scream at the maker of the chair for making the chair hard on feet. You realize it's because you turned off the light, that caused you to trip on things.

We humans turned off the light of G-d in this world by rejecting him. When stuff trips us up, we can't blame G-d. We can only blame ourselves.

It's like those people who banned G-d from schools, and now we have all these school shootings. You can't blame G-d for bad things happening, in places you banned him from.

 

[onefour1]

God is all powerful in the sense that he can do all that is possible. However, there are things that are eternally impossible that not even God can do. A being who can do all that is possible is said to be all powerful. A few examples of things that are eternally impossible are:

• God cannot both exist and not exist.
• God cannot create from nothing that which self exists.
• God cannot be an all good being and at the same time be an all evil being.

Before man/woman was formed with a spirit body and a physical body, he/she self existed as intelligence.

Doctrine and Covenants 93:29
29 Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be.

The very core of mankind is intelligence. It is self existent and was not created or made. Because of the self existent nature of intelligence, God could not create that part of mankind. The intelligence of mankind is not in a perfect state. Since God could create the intelligence of mankind, He was left to bring about the perfection of mankind in another way. Mankind would have to learn to choose perfection through a process of learning and experiencing many things. To become a perfect being like God, man would need to have many of the same attributes as God. God is a being of free will. Nobody tells God what to do. He does good continually of his own choosing. To become like God, man would of necessity need to have free will. You can't become like God by force. You have to choose to be like him and love it. God has commanded us:

Matthew 5:48
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

In this statement, God recognizes that we are imperfect beings but commands us to be perfect, even as our Father in heaven is perfect. God would not give us a commandment that would be impossible for us to fulfill. It may take longer that this life time to accomplish such a high and lofty goal, but it is possible. Part of the learning and experiences that mankind must go through to gain knowledge and understanding comes if the form of hardship and adversity. You might say that this life is a school of hard knocks. But if we make the right choices and learn to choose good over evil, we will be on the path to fulfilling his commandment. Some will fail to grasp the importance of being a good being. They will fall short of being able to abide by the celestial law of the kingdom of heaven. Thus there will be other places provided by God for them to go. God's desire is that we all would choose good. But given free will, God does not interfere in our choices unless the choices we make would interfere with the overall plan he has set. For example, if God has chosen an individual that he wants to lead in his kingdom on earth, he may thwart the desires of any who desire to harm or kill that individual.

Some of the hardships of this life might be that we suffer the loss of children who get a disease and die. This may be difficult to bear now, but may be for our eternal progression in the eternity to come. It may be that some of God's spirits are so advanced that they do not need the experiences of this life but only need to receive a body. We don't have all the answers, but little children who die before the age of accountability are alive in Christ and stand to inherit eternal glory.

/——-/Yet God exists for the believers while at the same time does not exist for the atheist.

What is truth? Does the believer and the non-believer have their own set of truths?

Doctrine and Covenants 93:24
24 And truth is knowledge of things as they are, and as they were, and as they are to come;

Truth is independent of the person and is what actually is, was, and is to come. If two sets of beliefs oppose each other, either they are both false and not true or only one can be true.

 

[BreezeWood]

...Why does it makes babies with cancer, or retarded, or deformed, or in pain, or even with all of that together? Is god not capable of a perfect creation? Is it a punishment of some sort?

G-d created a perfect world, where there was no evil, sin, cancer, deformity, or pain.

Man ruined that world, by rebelling against G-d. The Bible says that all of nature itself, groans. Romans 8:22.

This world, and everything in it, is not the way G-d intended it to be. It is this way because humans have rebelled and rejected G-d.

All of the consequences of that, including cancer and deformity, are the result of our actions rejecting G-d.

If you trip over something in the dark, you don't scream at the maker of the chair for making the chair hard on feet. You realize it's because you turned off the light, that caused you to trip on things.

We humans turned off the light of G-d in this world by rejecting him. When stuff trips us up, we can't blame G-d. We can only blame ourselves.

It's like those people who banned G-d from schools, and now we have all these school shootings. You can't blame G-d for bad things happening, in places you banned him from.

.

We humans turned off the light of G-d in this world by rejecting him.

the 1st century was a rejuvenation to put good before evil, the 4th century christian bible did the opposite returning the fold to evil.

It's like those people who banned G-d from schools, and now we have all these school shootings. You can't blame G-d for bad things happening, in places you banned him from.

if that is all it takes to be rid of your god it is one to be glad to be free from.