If more guns = safety , then more nukes = safety?

[westwall]

this is a common talking point for righties . If more guns are aviailble to people then there's less crime because everyone is armed .

Wouldn't that translate to a global scale with nuke weapons ? More countries wh nukes, then less likelyhood of war ! Right?

So far it has worked out that way though....hasn't it? Methinks you didn't think your analog through very well.

 

[Dschrute3]

But of course the US/West conveniently blamed it all on Russia. Same ole, same ole. Nothing ever changes.

Please don't link anything that frightened little boy Obama did or didn't do to the US and the west.

VP Joe Biden's son got a job as CEO of the largest gas company in Ukraine immediately after the illegal Coup. That says it all about what happened in Ukraine.

 

[Rambunctious]

VP Joe Biden's son got a job as CEO of the largest gas company in Ukraine immediately after the illegal Coup. That says it all about what happened in Ukraine

Very interesting.

 

[radical right]

Now that we can all see the mess the world and our nation was left in we should all be marching on Obama's house with pitchforks.

Bush allowed N. Korea to get nukes. That's a fact jack. It happened in 2003.

 

[Doc1]

VP Joe Biden's son got a job as CEO of the largest gas company in Ukraine immediately after the illegal Coup. That says it all about what happened in Ukraine

Very interesting.

And true.

 

[Dschrute3]

VP Joe Biden's son got a job as CEO of the largest gas company in Ukraine immediately after the illegal Coup. That says it all about what happened in Ukraine

Very interesting.

Yeah, he got the job almost immediately after the illegal Coup in Kiev. But most Americans aren't aware of that. They're told Russia is a 'Boogeyman', and they accept it. Unfortunately, most Americans really are uninformed and dumbed-down. It is sad, but it is what it is.

 

[Rambunctious]

Bush allowed N. Korea to get nukes. That's a fact jack. It happened in 2003

Bush? BUSH? BUSH? Please you do know Obama served for 8 years! Libs are stupid

 

[radical right]

this is a common talking point for righties . If more guns are aviailble to people then there's less crime because everyone is armed .

Wouldn't that translate to a global scale with nuke weapons ? More countries wh nukes, then less likelyhood of war ! Right?

So far it has worked out that way though....hasn't it? Methinks you didn't think your analog through very well.

The point is the more weapons you have out there, the more likely an anti-social will use one wrecklessly, thereby starting a cascade of violence. and death.

 

[Doc1]

VP Joe Biden's son got a job as CEO of the largest gas company in Ukraine immediately after the illegal Coup. That says it all about what happened in Ukraine

Very interesting.

Yeah, he got the job almost immediately after the illegal Coup in Kiev. But most Americans aren't aware of that. They're told Russia is a 'Boogeyman', and they accept it. Unfortunately, most Americans really are uninformed and dumbed-down. It is sad, but it is what it is.

The problem is that most people take movies at face value. I'd tell everyone to watch the Matrix again and look at it outside of the box.

 

[radical right]

Bush allowed N. Korea to get nukes. That's a fact jack. It happened in 2003

Bush? BUSH? BUSH? Please you do know Obama served for 8 years! Libs are stupid

If Bush didn't screw up and push N. Korea into making nukes in 2003, Trump wouldn't have to worry about N. Korea getting chinese technology to make long range missiles.

 

[Dschrute3]

this is a common talking point for righties . If more guns are aviailble to people then there's less crime because everyone is armed .

Wouldn't that translate to a global scale with nuke weapons ? More countries wh nukes, then less likelyhood of war ! Right?

So far it has worked out that way though....hasn't it? Methinks you didn't think your analog through very well.

The point is the more weapons you have out there, the more likely an anti-social will use one wrecklessly, thereby starting a cascade of violence. and death.

'Mutual Destruction.' Possessing Nuclear Weapons may be the only defense against attack. Personally, i think Iran and North Korea would be crazy not to develop Nuclear Weapons. The US/West is threatening attack on them every day. I can't blame them for doing everything possible to defend themselves.

 

[Dschrute3]

VP Joe Biden's son got a job as CEO of the largest gas company in Ukraine immediately after the illegal Coup. That says it all about what happened in Ukraine

Very interesting.

Yeah, he got the job almost immediately after the illegal Coup in Kiev. But most Americans aren't aware of that. They're told Russia is a 'Boogeyman', and they accept it. Unfortunately, most Americans really are uninformed and dumbed-down. It is sad, but it is what it is.

The problem is that most people take movies at face value. I'd tell everyone to watch the Matrix again and look at it outside of the box.

The US/West didn't even attempt to be discreet in Ukraine. That's how confident they are in controlling Western Media. They overthrew the Democratically-Elected Ukraine Leader and then blamed the chaos on Russia.

They even immediately gave the US VP's son the CEO job at Ukraine's largest gas company. They know most Americans are lazy and dumbed-down. Most Americans have no idea what went on in Ukraine. It's pretty depressing.

 

[Rambunctious]

If Bush didn't screw up and push N. Korea into making nukes in 2003, Trump wouldn't have to worry about N. Korea getting chinese technology to make long range missiles

Bush derangement syndrome. Obama had 8 years to correct all of "Bushes mistakes" what happened? Don't you see how foolish it is to blame Bush for anything happening today? You really can't see that? Holy Cow.

 

[radical right]

'Mutual Destruction.' Possessing Nuclear Weapons may be the only defense against attack. Personally, i think Iran and North Korea would be crazy not to develop Nuclear Weapons. The US/West is threatening attack on them every day. I can't blame them for doing everything possible to defend themselves.

MAD only works when neither leader is a mad-man. As soon as one, the other, or both leaders are irrational psychopaths, having nukes are more likely to start a war than to prevent one.

Trump already dropped the biggest non-nuclear weapon we have. So where does his ego go from here?

 

[imawhosure]

this is a common talking point for righties . If more guns are aviailble to people then there's less crime because everyone is armed .

Wouldn't that translate to a global scale with nuke weapons ? More countries wh nukes, then less likelyhood of war ! Right?

The OP knows this linkage is lefty bull! A gun is aimed, and 1 person dies. It must be reaimed to kill another. It is why machine guns and tanks are banned. His premise is like asking why are chemical weapons not legal. BECAUSE, they kill everyone in range!

Timmy the tool knows this, or he is an idiot. He just hopes you can't figure it out, so he can push his anti 2nd amendment propaganda!

 

[Doc1]

VP Joe Biden's son got a job as CEO of the largest gas company in Ukraine immediately after the illegal Coup. That says it all about what happened in Ukraine

Very interesting.

Yeah, he got the job almost immediately after the illegal Coup in Kiev. But most Americans aren't aware of that. They're told Russia is a 'Boogeyman', and they accept it. Unfortunately, most Americans really are uninformed and dumbed-down. It is sad, but it is what it is.

The problem is that most people take movies at face value. I'd tell everyone to watch the Matrix again and look at it outside of the box.

The US/West didn't even attempt to be discreet in Ukraine. That's how confident they are in controlling Western Media. They overthrew the Democratically-Elected Ukraine Leader and then blamed the chaos on Russia.

They even immediately gave the US VP's son the CEO job at Ukraine's largest gas company. They know most Americans are lazy and dumbed-down. Most Americans have no idea what went on in Ukraine. It's pretty depressing.

Watch this clip, it was filmed in 1996.

youtube long kiss goodnight kill 4000 americans - Bing video

 

[Dschrute3]

'Mutual Destruction.' Possessing Nuclear Weapons may be the only defense against attack. Personally, i think Iran and North Korea would be crazy not to develop Nuclear Weapons. The US/West is threatening attack on them every day. I can't blame them for doing everything possible to defend themselves.

MAD only works when neither leader is a mad-man. As soon as one, the other, or both leaders are irrational psychopaths, having nukes are more likely to start a war than to prevent one.

Trump already dropped the biggest non-nuclear weapon we have. So where does his ego go from here?

Interesting observation. Thanks.

 

[radical right]

If Bush didn't screw up and push N. Korea into making nukes in 2003, Trump wouldn't have to worry about N. Korea getting chinese technology to make long range missiles

Bush derangement syndrome. Obama had 8 years to correct all of "Bushes mistakes" what happened? Don't you see how foolish it is to blame Bush for anything happening today? You really can't see that? Holy Cow.

Bush had six years to correct his mistake with N, Korea. And the only thing Bush could do was trade a bunch of money and promises in return for absolutely nothing from N. Korea. Lil Kim must have laughed his balls off, getting paid to do nothing. He kept his nukes, and actually made more with Bush's money

 

[2aguy]

this is a common talking point for righties . If more guns are aviailble to people then there's less crime because everyone is armed .

Wouldn't that translate to a global scale with nuke weapons ? More countries wh nukes, then less likelyhood of war ! Right?

Except there is a problem with your logic. Iran has stated they would be willing to allow Iranians to die in large numbers under a nuclear counter attack....if they could destroy the entire state of Israel with a first strike.

Criminals...twit.....are not out to die.....criminals want to live, and more often than not, run when a victim draws a gun....

Mass shooters....they are expecting to die so the only way to keep them from killing more people in a gun free zone is to shoot them...


And do you realize that Mutually Assured Destruction did keep us from going to nuclear war? Do you realize that the Japanese military leaders interviewed after the war stated that if they had had the bomb before Pearl Harbor, they would have dropped it on Pearl Harbor and anywhere else they could.....

So yes.....for rational nations, who care about their own survival, everyone having nukes worked......it is just the crazies who don't care and don't mind dying that you want to keep from getting nuclear weapons....sadly, obama has allowed Iran to move forward to get nuclear weapons.

 

[2aguy]

this is a common talking point for righties . If more guns are aviailble to people then there's less crime because everyone is armed .

Wouldn't that translate to a global scale with nuke weapons ? More countries wh nukes, then less likelyhood of war ! Right?

this is a common talking point for righties . If more guns are aviailble to people then there's less crime because everyone is armed .

It isn't a talking point...it is a fact.....

In the United States we had 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million Americans actually carried guns for self defense...legally.........in 2016 we now had 357-400 million guns and over 15 million Americans carrying guns for self defense legall.

According to you, we should have had massive increases in gun crime and gun murder....

What did we actually have?

--our gun crime rate went down 75%....so your belief is wrong.

--our gun murder rate went down 49%....so your belief is wrong.

--our violent crime rate went down 72%.....so your belief is wrong.

And in that time what happened in Britain..where they took guns away from normal British people....the gun crime rate and the gun murder rate went up....then went back to the same place it was before the ban...

And now in London, gun crime went up 42%......last year....20 years after the ban...and violent crime is up 24%....

So you are wrong Timmy...everything you believe about guns is just wrong......and made up in your head.

Timmy....how do you explain the fact that as more Americans...a lot more.....own and carried guns...and our crime rates went down.....how do you explain that? Since you believe that more guns in more hands has to create more gun murder, more gun crime and more violent crime....

How do you explain that?

We're waiting....