If Republicans Cared About Families, They’d Stop Blocking Paid Leave

[David_42]

Employers should support pregnant women not fire them when they become pregnant.

Cool story. Seeing as it's already illegal to fire someone who gets pregnant, I still don't know what your point is supposed to be.

Even though it's illegal to do it, it happens every day. The employer just doesn't say they're firing the person because of pregnancy. They make up a different excuse.

My point is that if employers and our society supported pregnant women and mothers more women wouldn't have to give up a career because they became a mom or will become a mom. More kids would spend more time with their mom instead of being in a day care facility.

Paid family leave should be mandatory by law.

It is mandatory in every other industrialized country..
Lots Of Other Countries Mandate Paid Leave. Why Not The U.S.?

 

[Dana7360]

Employers should support pregnant women not fire them when they become pregnant.

Cool story. Seeing as it's already illegal to fire someone who gets pregnant, I still don't know what your point is supposed to be.

Even though it's illegal to do it, it happens every day. The employer just doesn't say they're firing the person because of pregnancy. They make up a different excuse.

My point is that if employers and our society supported pregnant women and mothers more women wouldn't have to give up a career because they became a mom or will become a mom. More kids would spend more time with their mom instead of being in a day care facility.

Paid family leave should be mandatory by law.

It is mandatory in every other industrialized country..
Lots Of Other Countries Mandate Paid Leave. Why Not The U.S.?

Yes I know. America is the only industrialized nation that doesn't give pregnant women a break at work.

So much for family values.

 

[David_42]

Employers should support pregnant women not fire them when they become pregnant.

Cool story. Seeing as it's already illegal to fire someone who gets pregnant, I still don't know what your point is supposed to be.

Even though it's illegal to do it, it happens every day. The employer just doesn't say they're firing the person because of pregnancy. They make up a different excuse.

My point is that if employers and our society supported pregnant women and mothers more women wouldn't have to give up a career because they became a mom or will become a mom. More kids would spend more time with their mom instead of being in a day care facility.

Paid family leave should be mandatory by law.

It is mandatory in every other industrialized country..
Lots Of Other Countries Mandate Paid Leave. Why Not The U.S.?

Yes I know. America is the only industrialized nation that doesn't give pregnant women a break at work.

So much for family values.

Bernie sanders has a great speech on family values.

 

[thanatos144]

Employers should support pregnant women not fire them when they become pregnant.

Cool story. Seeing as it's already illegal to fire someone who gets pregnant, I still don't know what your point is supposed to be.

Even though it's illegal to do it, it happens every day. The employer just doesn't say they're firing the person because of pregnancy. They make up a different excuse.

My point is that if employers and our society supported pregnant women and mothers more women wouldn't have to give up a career because they became a mom or will become a mom. More kids would spend more time with their mom instead of being in a day care facility.

Paid family leave should be mandatory by law.

It is mandatory in every other industrialized country..
Lots Of Other Countries Mandate Paid Leave. Why Not The U.S.?

Yes I know. America is the only industrialized nation that doesn't give pregnant women a break at work.

So much for family values.

Bernie sanders has a great speech on family values.

The same man that said women want to be raped?

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[Ray From Cleveland]

Employers should support pregnant women not fire them when they become pregnant.

Cool story. Seeing as it's already illegal to fire someone who gets pregnant, I still don't know what your point is supposed to be.

Even though it's illegal to do it, it happens every day. The employer just doesn't say they're firing the person because of pregnancy. They make up a different excuse.

My point is that if employers and our society supported pregnant women and mothers more women wouldn't have to give up a career because they became a mom or will become a mom. More kids would spend more time with their mom instead of being in a day care facility.

Paid family leave should be mandatory by law.

Great idea. Are you willing to pay for it?

 

[The Rabbi]

Employers should support pregnant women not fire them when they become pregnant.

Cool story. Seeing as it's already illegal to fire someone who gets pregnant, I still don't know what your point is supposed to be.

Even though it's illegal to do it, it happens every day. The employer just doesn't say they're firing the person because of pregnancy. They make up a different excuse.

My point is that if employers and our society supported pregnant women and mothers more women wouldn't have to give up a career because they became a mom or will become a mom. More kids would spend more time with their mom instead of being in a day care facility.

Paid family leave should be mandatory by law.

Great idea. Are you willing to pay for it?

She's willing to have you pay for it.
It's the democrats all over. Gin up a problem that doesnt really exist. Point out that sclerotic Euro-dork economies offer this freebie and why cant we be more like them, declare it's a human right, and then push to have "the wealthy" pay higher taxes to fund it.
And the rubes eat that shit up.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Employers should support pregnant women not fire them when they become pregnant.

Cool story. Seeing as it's already illegal to fire someone who gets pregnant, I still don't know what your point is supposed to be.

Even though it's illegal to do it, it happens every day. The employer just doesn't say they're firing the person because of pregnancy. They make up a different excuse.

My point is that if employers and our society supported pregnant women and mothers more women wouldn't have to give up a career because they became a mom or will become a mom. More kids would spend more time with their mom instead of being in a day care facility.

Paid family leave should be mandatory by law.

Great idea. Are you willing to pay for it?

She's willing to have you pay for it.
It's the democrats all over. Gin up a problem that doesnt really exist. Point out that sclerotic Euro-dork economies offer this freebie and why cant we be more like them, declare it's a human right, and then push to have "the wealthy" pay higher taxes to fund it.
And the rubes eat that shit up.

Exactly, and when businesses have had enough and move overseas, it's not the liberals fault, it's those greedy Republican business owners fault.

 

[rightwinger]

Employers should support pregnant women not fire them when they become pregnant.

Cool story. Seeing as it's already illegal to fire someone who gets pregnant, I still don't know what your point is supposed to be.

Even though it's illegal to do it, it happens every day. The employer just doesn't say they're firing the person because of pregnancy. They make up a different excuse.

My point is that if employers and our society supported pregnant women and mothers more women wouldn't have to give up a career because they became a mom or will become a mom. More kids would spend more time with their mom instead of being in a day care facility.

Paid family leave should be mandatory by law.

Great idea. Are you willing to pay for it?

She's willing to have you pay for it.
It's the democrats all over. Gin up a problem that doesnt really exist. Point out that sclerotic Euro-dork economies offer this freebie and why cant we be more like them, declare it's a human right, and then push to have "the wealthy" pay higher taxes to fund it.
And the rubes eat that shit up.

Exactly, and when businesses have had enough and move overseas, it's not the liberals fault, it's those greedy Republican business owners fault.

Move overseas to countries that already have universal healthcare and maternity leave?

 

[Redfish]

Employers. Like every other country.

No, idiot. Consumers would pay for it. The added costs would be added to the cost of every product that you buy, just like taxes, SS, medicare, and every other govt mandate.

You cannot add a cost of production and force the business to retain the same prices. they would go out of business and then the workers would have lots of unpaid leave.

it never ceases to amaze me how you libs have no idea how the economy works.

You honestly think that paid maternity leave would cause businesses to raise prices to compensate for the tiny amount of employees who would take it? Bullshit, as demonstrated by every other country.

Can't help an American Mother out. It could effect the bottom line. You can't reason with angry greedy white Republican dude. It's all about the hate & greed for him. You can't get through.

many business owners are black democrats. WTF is it with you and the constant racist bullshit?

Hey we know, helping an American Mother out could effect the bottom line. No-Can-Do. We gotcha. Wave bye bye to Congress and the White House for many years to come.

What happened to the father being responsible for his wife and children?

The "villiage" doesn't work.

If you can't afford to have a child, don't get pregnant. Its really quite simple,

 

[The Rabbi]

Cool story. Seeing as it's already illegal to fire someone who gets pregnant, I still don't know what your point is supposed to be.

Even though it's illegal to do it, it happens every day. The employer just doesn't say they're firing the person because of pregnancy. They make up a different excuse.

My point is that if employers and our society supported pregnant women and mothers more women wouldn't have to give up a career because they became a mom or will become a mom. More kids would spend more time with their mom instead of being in a day care facility.

Paid family leave should be mandatory by law.

Great idea. Are you willing to pay for it?

She's willing to have you pay for it.
It's the democrats all over. Gin up a problem that doesnt really exist. Point out that sclerotic Euro-dork economies offer this freebie and why cant we be more like them, declare it's a human right, and then push to have "the wealthy" pay higher taxes to fund it.
And the rubes eat that shit up.

Exactly, and when businesses have had enough and move overseas, it's not the liberals fault, it's those greedy Republican business owners fault.

Move overseas to countries that already have universal healthcare and maternity leave?

You think companies are not moving overseas?

 

[Redfish]

My sister is a doctor and she once had a patient who had her tubes tied. Her husband had a vasectomy. She ended up pregnant.

Your sister should be the first one to tell you that tubals and vasectomies are horribly unreliable forms of contraception. They always grow back. Not sure what your point is here. Two people used unreliable forms of birth control and it didn't work. By George!

It doesn't always grow back. It does in some cases.

Nothing is perfect. Nothing is 100%. A couple could use birth control and still get pregnant.

Which is my point.

Even though nothing is perfect something is much better than nothing. Birth control should be free and available to everyone who wants it.

Why should it be free? Is water free? If BC should be free, how about all medicine? how about cars and phones? and food?

EVERYTHING should be FREE, FREE, FREE, right, idiot?

 

[Redfish]

Employers should support pregnant women not fire them when they become pregnant.

Cool story. Seeing as it's already illegal to fire someone who gets pregnant, I still don't know what your point is supposed to be.

Even though it's illegal to do it, it happens every day. The employer just doesn't say they're firing the person because of pregnancy. They make up a different excuse.

My point is that if employers and our society supported pregnant women and mothers more women wouldn't have to give up a career because they became a mom or will become a mom. More kids would spend more time with their mom instead of being in a day care facility.

Paid family leave should be mandatory by law.

How about 60 days per year paid vacations? after all, we all need a break from our jobs.

Now, if you get your paid pregnancy time off, what happens if you don't return to the job? Do you have to pay it back? or does the company just have to eat it?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Cool story. Seeing as it's already illegal to fire someone who gets pregnant, I still don't know what your point is supposed to be.

Even though it's illegal to do it, it happens every day. The employer just doesn't say they're firing the person because of pregnancy. They make up a different excuse.

My point is that if employers and our society supported pregnant women and mothers more women wouldn't have to give up a career because they became a mom or will become a mom. More kids would spend more time with their mom instead of being in a day care facility.

Paid family leave should be mandatory by law.

Great idea. Are you willing to pay for it?

She's willing to have you pay for it.
It's the democrats all over. Gin up a problem that doesnt really exist. Point out that sclerotic Euro-dork economies offer this freebie and why cant we be more like them, declare it's a human right, and then push to have "the wealthy" pay higher taxes to fund it.
And the rubes eat that shit up.

Exactly, and when businesses have had enough and move overseas, it's not the liberals fault, it's those greedy Republican business owners fault.

Move overseas to countries that already have universal healthcare and maternity leave?

Well you show me one report that says maternity leave and healthcare is the reason these companies are leaving.

Companies leave because labor is too expensive in this country. We bog down our businesses with taxation, regulation and dozens of expenses businesses don't have to endure in other countries.

 

[Redfish]

Cool story. Seeing as it's already illegal to fire someone who gets pregnant, I still don't know what your point is supposed to be.

Even though it's illegal to do it, it happens every day. The employer just doesn't say they're firing the person because of pregnancy. They make up a different excuse.

My point is that if employers and our society supported pregnant women and mothers more women wouldn't have to give up a career because they became a mom or will become a mom. More kids would spend more time with their mom instead of being in a day care facility.

Paid family leave should be mandatory by law.

Great idea. Are you willing to pay for it?

She's willing to have you pay for it.
It's the democrats all over. Gin up a problem that doesnt really exist. Point out that sclerotic Euro-dork economies offer this freebie and why cant we be more like them, declare it's a human right, and then push to have "the wealthy" pay higher taxes to fund it.
And the rubes eat that shit up.

Exactly, and when businesses have had enough and move overseas, it's not the liberals fault, it's those greedy Republican business owners fault.

Move overseas to countries that already have universal healthcare and maternity leave?

then you and all of your libtardian friends should move to one of those wonderful socialist utopias. We don't want or need you here.

Can I help you pack?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Even though it's illegal to do it, it happens every day. The employer just doesn't say they're firing the person because of pregnancy. They make up a different excuse.

My point is that if employers and our society supported pregnant women and mothers more women wouldn't have to give up a career because they became a mom or will become a mom. More kids would spend more time with their mom instead of being in a day care facility.

Paid family leave should be mandatory by law.

Great idea. Are you willing to pay for it?

She's willing to have you pay for it.
It's the democrats all over. Gin up a problem that doesnt really exist. Point out that sclerotic Euro-dork economies offer this freebie and why cant we be more like them, declare it's a human right, and then push to have "the wealthy" pay higher taxes to fund it.
And the rubes eat that shit up.

Exactly, and when businesses have had enough and move overseas, it's not the liberals fault, it's those greedy Republican business owners fault.

Move overseas to countries that already have universal healthcare and maternity leave?

You think companies are not moving overseas?

Yes they are. Why make more of them move overseas?

 

[rightwinger]

Even though it's illegal to do it, it happens every day. The employer just doesn't say they're firing the person because of pregnancy. They make up a different excuse.

My point is that if employers and our society supported pregnant women and mothers more women wouldn't have to give up a career because they became a mom or will become a mom. More kids would spend more time with their mom instead of being in a day care facility.

Paid family leave should be mandatory by law.

Great idea. Are you willing to pay for it?

She's willing to have you pay for it.
It's the democrats all over. Gin up a problem that doesnt really exist. Point out that sclerotic Euro-dork economies offer this freebie and why cant we be more like them, declare it's a human right, and then push to have "the wealthy" pay higher taxes to fund it.
And the rubes eat that shit up.

Exactly, and when businesses have had enough and move overseas, it's not the liberals fault, it's those greedy Republican business owners fault.

Move overseas to countries that already have universal healthcare and maternity leave?

Well you show me one report that says maternity leave and healthcare is the reason these companies are leaving.

Companies leave because labor is too expensive in this country. We bog down our businesses with taxation, regulation and dozens of expenses businesses don't have to endure in other countries.

You brought it up Ray

You think relaxing taxation and regulation will keep companies from seeking $20 a day labor?

Do Americas workers have to work as slaves to make you happy?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Great idea. Are you willing to pay for it?

She's willing to have you pay for it.
It's the democrats all over. Gin up a problem that doesnt really exist. Point out that sclerotic Euro-dork economies offer this freebie and why cant we be more like them, declare it's a human right, and then push to have "the wealthy" pay higher taxes to fund it.
And the rubes eat that shit up.

Exactly, and when businesses have had enough and move overseas, it's not the liberals fault, it's those greedy Republican business owners fault.

Move overseas to countries that already have universal healthcare and maternity leave?

Well you show me one report that says maternity leave and healthcare is the reason these companies are leaving.

Companies leave because labor is too expensive in this country. We bog down our businesses with taxation, regulation and dozens of expenses businesses don't have to endure in other countries.

You brought it up Ray

You think relaxing taxation and regulation will keep companies from seeking $20 a day labor?

Do Americas workers have to work as slaves to make you happy?

As slaves? You mean getting paid what they are worth?

Businesses have to calculate what's best for the company. $20.00 a day for labor would not be a consideration if we were talking labor alone, but we're not. We're talking about all of the expenses businesses have to shoulder vs that $20.00 a day labor. Let's look at some of them:

Employers pay: matching Social Security contributions of an employee, matching Medicare contributions of an employee, workman's compensation insurance, unemployment insurance, paid holidays, paid vacation days, healthcare insurance, time-and-a-half for overtime pay, state taxes, federal taxes, city taxes, county taxes, and now some want to burden businesses with maternity leave?

Would they have these costs if they moved operations to another country?

 

[rightwinger]

She's willing to have you pay for it.
It's the democrats all over. Gin up a problem that doesnt really exist. Point out that sclerotic Euro-dork economies offer this freebie and why cant we be more like them, declare it's a human right, and then push to have "the wealthy" pay higher taxes to fund it.
And the rubes eat that shit up.

Exactly, and when businesses have had enough and move overseas, it's not the liberals fault, it's those greedy Republican business owners fault.

Move overseas to countries that already have universal healthcare and maternity leave?

Well you show me one report that says maternity leave and healthcare is the reason these companies are leaving.

Companies leave because labor is too expensive in this country. We bog down our businesses with taxation, regulation and dozens of expenses businesses don't have to endure in other countries.

You brought it up Ray

You think relaxing taxation and regulation will keep companies from seeking $20 a day labor?

Do Americas workers have to work as slaves to make you happy?

As slaves? You mean getting paid what they are worth?

Businesses have to calculate what's best for the company. $20.00 a day for labor would not be a consideration if we were talking labor alone, but we're not. We're talking about all of the expenses businesses have to shoulder vs that $20.00 a day labor. Let's look at some of them:

Employers pay: matching Social Security contributions of an employee, matching Medicare contributions of an employee, workman's compensation insurance, unemployment insurance, paid holidays, paid vacation days, healthcare insurance, time-and-a-half for overtime pay, state taxes, federal taxes, city taxes, county taxes, and now some want to burden businesses with maternity leave?

Would they have these costs if they moved operations to another country?

Your claims of corporate poverty are not phasing me
We have seen what happens when we make it easier for them.....they just pocket the excess profit and hike executive pay
Our corporations are doing just fine. The difference is they no longer see the need to reward their employees. Government stepped in under Reagan and passed legislation to help the supply side. It is time for Government to pass legislation that helps the workers

 

[SwimExpert]

It doesn't always grow back. It does in some cases.

Just about always. They're extremely ineffective methods, prone to a high degree of failure. They're unreliable. Use an unreliable form of birth control, don't expect it to work.

Nothing is perfect. Nothing is 100%. A couple could use birth control and still get pregnant.

Which is my point.

Which is why you use multiple methods of highly effective birth control.

Even though nothing is perfect something is much better than nothing. Birth control should be free and available to everyone who wants it.

Free? No, it should not be free. If you want to argue that we as a society should find a way to improve contraceptive access to low income individuals, then I'll agree with that, but to say that it should all just be immediately free across the board is ridiculous. If a couple becomes pregnant, that is their fault. There is no excuse. Anyone who isn't incredibly stupid can achieve 100% contraceptive success. If they don't, then they were reckless and irresponsible, much like your friends who chose to rely on high failure rate methods. Even after a pregnancy occurs, people still have options if they cannot or do not want to meet the burdens of parenthood. Abortion is legal. And there is always adoption, with tons of fertility challenged couples looking to adopt newborn babies.

Becoming a parent is a choice. Period.

 

[SwimExpert]

Even though it's illegal to do it, it happens every day. The employer just doesn't say they're firing the person because of pregnancy. They make up a different excuse.

So you think that mandating paid leave will solve that? It'll just make the problem worse. More companies will find excuses to fire pregnant women, so they can save the expense of the paid leave.

But in all seriousness, if a woman does quality work in the first place, the company won't want to fire her. They'll want to retain her for the long run, because she's good at what she does.

My point is that if employers and our society supported pregnant women and mothers more women wouldn't have to give up a career because they became a mom or will become a mom. More kids would spend more time with their mom instead of being in a day care facility.

Wait a second, you can't have it both ways. You can't have women working, and staying home at the same time. It's one or the other. If they want to be a career woman, then they'll have to put their kids in daycare and go to work. If they want to be home with the kids, they'll have to cut back on work and put aside their career ambitions.

Paid family leave should be mandatory by law.

No.