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He's only Commander-In-Chief for certain military issues?
I think not.
He's Commander-In-Chief - by God, he was briefed on the call by whomever to disarm our guys. He could have put an end to it right on the spot. "DON'T DISARM THEM."
Instead, he took another golf swing/vacation.
The buck should stop with him.
Link?
He's got a point with this one. Military policy should be the President's top priority..especially given that we are still at war. This was bad form no matter how you look at it.
did obama do this or the base commander?
The base commander with direction from washington (panetta) who gets direction from obama.
Its one of those "the buck stops here" things I think...but obama is seperated by "layers". Much like it wasn't Obama who got bin laden but he gets credit, the same applies here.
And btw, this was at the marine base, Camp Leatherneck.Isn't Panetta protected by the secret service?
I don't know if this was the right decision or not but I'm not sure how a bunch of marines with weapons would react to a random attack on Panetta....they have to follow the orders of their platoon leader, no? Would you seriously want a bunch of bullets flying in this situation?
I hope to god the secret service were at least in there packing.
I just can't get worked up about this.
Bad form? I respect Gurganus; either remove him, or he makes the decisions. The war is flaring up again; I do not expect Gurganus to give his actual reasons for the decision though.He's only Commander-In-Chief for certain military issues?
I think not.
He's Commander-In-Chief - by God, he was briefed on the call by whomever to disarm our guys. He could have put an end to it right on the spot. "DON'T DISARM THEM."
Instead, he took another golf swing/vacation.
The buck should stop with him.
Link?
He's got a point with this one. Military policy should be the President's top priority..especially given that we are still at war. This was bad form no matter how you look at it.
Link?
He's got a point with this one. Military policy should be the President's top priority..especially given that we are still at war. This was bad form no matter how you look at it.
It's certainly bad form but he doesn't have a lick of proof to what he asserts.
Isn't Panetta protected by the secret service?What are armed Americans outside a tent going to do to stop me once I am inside the tent unloading on everyone?
I don't know if this was the right decision or not but I'm not sure how a bunch of marines with weapons would react to a random attack on Panetta....they have to follow the orders of their platoon leader, no? Would you seriously want a bunch of bullets flying in this situation?
There are a couple of ways to look at this..but in the broader sense..we are still at war. And when you come to the negotiating table..you have to come from a position of strength. Disarming people to show some sort of equalitarian sensiblity is wrong minded. Especially given that the people in that region respect strength.
This was wrong on many levels.
Bad form? I respect Gurganus; either remove him, or he makes the decisions. The war is flaring up again; I do not expect Gurganus to give his actual reasons for the decision though.Link?
He's got a point with this one. Military policy should be the President's top priority..especially given that we are still at war. This was bad form no matter how you look at it.
And btw, this was at the marine base, Camp Leatherneck.I hope to god the secret service were at least in there packing.
I just can't get worked up about this.
The thing that scares is me Afghan Soldiers have been killing our Marines and Soldiers alot lately, thats why hearing Marines being disarmed scares me.
Link?
He's got a point with this one. Military policy should be the President's top priority..especially given that we are still at war. This was bad form no matter how you look at it.
One would think the person who has the title "Commander In Chief" would you know, be responsible for the men/women of whom he's "Commanding." Not in the Obama Regime, however - he gets a free pass...
And btw, this was at the marine base, Camp Leatherneck.
I just can't get worked up about this.
The thing that scares is me Afghan Soldiers have been killing our Marines and Soldiers alot lately, thats why hearing Marines being disarmed scares me.
What's scarier is our own American officials (i.e. Panetta) are afraid our men/women are going to shoot them, that they disarm them when they come for a visit. If this is going to be the case until they come home, Panetta and the rest of this Obama Admin can stay the fuck out of the war zone.
The thing that scares is me Afghan Soldiers have been killing our Marines and Soldiers alot lately, thats why hearing Marines being disarmed scares me.
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My concern also; that is why I posted about the chance of a Marine's weapon being grabbed INSIDE the tent.
He's got a point with this one. Military policy should be the President's top priority..especially given that we are still at war. This was bad form no matter how you look at it.
It's certainly bad form but he doesn't have a lick of proof to what he asserts.
What is there to prove? Do you honestly believe that Obama was NOT briefed that the men/women he "Commands" were going to be disarmed during Panetta's visit? You seriously think he wasn't briefed on this, that you're asking for a "link" to show he was/wasn't?
You are seriously smarter than this, so come on...
It's certainly bad form but he doesn't have a lick of proof to what he asserts.
What is there to prove? Do you honestly believe that Obama was NOT briefed that the men/women he "Commands" were going to be disarmed during Panetta's visit? You seriously think he wasn't briefed on this, that you're asking for a "link" to show he was/wasn't?
You are seriously smarter than this, so come on...
Yes, I seriously think he wasn't briefed.
A link proving that he was is exactly what I am asking for.
He's got a point with this one. Military policy should be the President's top priority..especially given that we are still at war. This was bad form no matter how you look at it.
One would think the person who has the title "Commander In Chief" would you know, be responsible for the men/women of whom he's "Commanding." Not in the Obama Regime, however - he gets a free pass...
He's responsible for whom he is commanding, however, you don't have any proof whatsoever that he was briefed on this and let it slide therefor your assertions about Obama in this thread are baseless.
In 25 years in the service - I never saw anything like this...
Soldiers asked to disarm during Leon Panetta speech - Telegraph
Isn't Panetta protected by the secret service?What are armed Americans outside a tent going to do to stop me once I am inside the tent unloading on everyone?
I don't know if this was the right decision or not but I'm not sure how a bunch of marines with weapons would react to a random attack on Panetta....they have to follow the orders of their platoon leader, no? Would you seriously want a bunch of bullets flying in this situation?
There are a couple of ways to look at this..but in the broader sense..we are still at war. And when you come to the negotiating table..you have to come from a position of strength. Disarming people to show some sort of equalitarian sensiblity is wrong minded. Especially given that the people in that region respect strength.
This was wrong on many levels.
In 25 years in the service - I never saw anything like this...
Soldiers asked to disarm during Leon Panetta speech - Telegraph
"Suck this, you assfucking little cocksmoking beatttttttttttttcht".
No one expects every member of the military to be exactly sane and under control at all times, you for example claim to be a Vet and yet your behavior is certainly suspect.
I would surely put you through a metal detector and have you watched closely were I in charge of security at any event where a diverse population of citizens congregated and a public official was to speak. You're one sick puppy 'warrior' and I'd be surprised if anyone of the officers with who you claim to have served didn't feel the same.
No entirely sane person uses the language you do (as quoted above); there is something in your history which made you not quite 'right'. Using sexual words in hateful comments suggests deep psychological trauma. I do pity you much as you repulse me.
Not a smart move. And it could have gotten alot of people killed. I thought Panetta was smarter then this..
Isn't Panetta protected by the secret service?
I don't know if this was the right decision or not but I'm not sure how a bunch of marines with weapons would react to a random attack on Panetta....they have to follow the orders of their platoon leader, no? Would you seriously want a bunch of bullets flying in this situation?
There are a couple of ways to look at this..but in the broader sense..we are still at war. And when you come to the negotiating table..you have to come from a position of strength. Disarming people to show some sort of equalitarian sensiblity is wrong minded. Especially given that the people in that region respect strength.
This was wrong on many levels.
Oh crap. Now I'm gonna have to bookmark your post to rep later.
Dammmn you Sallow. You know I don't like to rep you.
