If Trump Carries Through on Threat to close ports of entry?

Apparently president Trump has gotten under your skin again. Illegals are killing an
IT'S A "NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!"
I would say 100 thousand a month pouring over our border is a national emergency. What would you call it?

d raping Americans, so yes the border may need to be shut down.


So ? Are you willing to pay $2.00 for lettuce? Hmm?

At this point: yes, if it stops the flood. The border MUST be secured. It will take what it takes, it will cost what it costs. Seal the damn border.
58% just overstay their visas and the wall is stupid and won't work. Pass an ID card and amnesty for Worthy illegals about 11 million and end this crap!!
All 11 million should get the fuck out or face the same legal consequences they would if they broke into Mexico. Why the hell should we treat an illegal here better than they would be there? No matter how they get here if it's illegal prosecute the shit out of them.
 
Apparently president Trump has gotten under your skin again. Illegals are killing an
I would say 100 thousand a month pouring over our border is a national emergency. What would you call it?

d raping Americans, so yes the border may need to be shut down.


So ? Are you willing to pay $2.00 for lettuce? Hmm?

At this point: yes, if it stops the flood. The border MUST be secured. It will take what it takes, it will cost what it costs. Seal the damn border.
58% just overstay their visas and the wall is stupid and won't work. Pass an ID card and amnesty for Worthy illegals about 11 million and end this crap!!


Only the ones who aren’t on any type of publicity assistance. But all the ones who collect food stamp or welfare need to be deported
I only want the ones that committed a crime deported...

Wait, they all came here illegally.

Deport them all.
 
Yeah , it was ' turrible ' no avocado or bimbo cakes , we had to eat Hostess :afro:. But sure , we had 'mexican' , we had cookbooks but avocado were unavailable going by memory . Point I make is feck mexico , its avocados and 'bimbo cakes' BSilor .
 
Hopefully it will be a wake up call to you fucking idiot Dimocrats who refuse to admit we have a fucking crisis.

At least one Obama era sec has the guts to break away from the Dimocrat border narrative:

Obama’s DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson: ‘We Are Truly in a Crisis’ on the Border
by Julio Rosas | Mar 29th, 2019, 3:17 pm 938


Former President Barack Obama’s Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson told Morning Joe on Friday the high number of migrants being appended at the U.S.-Mexico border shows it is a crisis.

Johnson said when he oversaw the department, he would be put in a bad mood if over 1,000 people were appended at the border in a given day. Kevin McAleenan, the commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection, said they had detained more than 4,100 migrants on Tuesday.

Obama’s DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson: ‘We Are Truly in a Crisis’ on the Border
If there is no crisis now there sure as hell will be if Trump closes the border crossings.
 
Hopefully it will be a wake up call to you fucking idiot Dimocrats who refuse to admit we have a fucking crisis.

At least one Obama era sec has the guts to break away from the Dimocrat border narrative:

Obama’s DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson: ‘We Are Truly in a Crisis’ on the Border
by Julio Rosas | Mar 29th, 2019, 3:17 pm 938


Former President Barack Obama’s Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson told Morning Joe on Friday the high number of migrants being appended at the U.S.-Mexico border shows it is a crisis.

Johnson said when he oversaw the department, he would be put in a bad mood if over 1,000 people were appended at the border in a given day. Kevin McAleenan, the commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection, said they had detained more than 4,100 migrants on Tuesday.

Obama’s DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson: ‘We Are Truly in a Crisis’ on the Border
If there is no crisis now there sure as hell will be if Trump closes the border crossings.
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Yeah , it was ' turrible ' no avocado or bimbo cakes , we had to eat Hostess :afro:. But sure , we had 'mexican' , we had cookbooks but avocado were unavailable going by memory . Point I make is feck mexico , its avocados and 'bimbo cakes' BSilor .

Well then, wouldn't exactly say you're in luck, but Bimbo cakes should be readily available nowadays since Bimbo bought out many of the large U.S. bakeries in the last 10 years.
 
Apparently president Trump has gotten under your skin again. Illegals are killing an
d raping Americans, so yes the border may need to be shut down.


So ? Are you willing to pay $2.00 for lettuce? Hmm?

At this point: yes, if it stops the flood. The border MUST be secured. It will take what it takes, it will cost what it costs. Seal the damn border.
58% just overstay their visas and the wall is stupid and won't work. Pass an ID card and amnesty for Worthy illegals about 11 million and end this crap!!


Only the ones who aren’t on any type of publicity assistance. But all the ones who collect food stamp or welfare need to be deported
I only want the ones that committed a crime deported...

Wait, they all came here illegally.

Deport them all.
removing all 11.2 million of them would take about 20 years and cost the government between $400 billion and $600 billion. The impact on the economy would be even larger, according to the study: Real GDP would drop by nearly $1.6 trillion and the policy would shave 5.7 percent off economic growth.
 
This should cause Mexico great pain but what else?
It will cause great pain for a lot of Americans but what would closing border actually accomplish?
Would migrants turn around and walk back to Central America?
Would Mexico arrest people that aren't breaking any law?
Would Mexico shelter and feed these people?
Lastly would it reduce illegal immigration?

The answer is obviously no to all the above. What it would do is create a real emergency on southern border and declare to world that the most powerful nation on earth can't protect it's own borders.
The President has said what he expects Mexico to do, build the fence on Mexico's southern border to prevent the Central Americans from crossing Mexico to get to the US border. Obama paid Mexico to put up that fence, but when the caravans came, the Mexicans just stood by while the Central Americans tore down Obama's fence. Clearly, President Trump is demanding Mexico enforce its own border security laws and build the fence and defend it this time.
Trump's demands that Mexican wall off their southern border or stop migrants approaching the US border should be ignored. It is not their responsibility. The Federal Police do have that authority under Mexican law to stop or detain people that are legally in their country. The fact that Donald Trump can't control illegal immigration is not Mexico's problem.

Trump's promise to build a wall across the southern border and restrict immigration has created a sense of urgency throughout Central America to come to the US now. His promise to close border crossing is sending migrants to to more vulnerable sections of the border which will guarantee more illegal immigration.

There was no national emergency when Trump ceased the money to build a wall but his latest actions will certainly create one.
Obama also pushed Mexico to build a fence along its border with Central America, and they did because Obama paid them to, but when the Central Americans tore it down, the Mexicans just stood by and watched. This time around there will be none of the begging and bribing they enjoyed from Obama, and when the Central Americans again try to tear down the fence Mexico will be expected to behave in good faith to protect the fence Americans paid them to build. The alternative will be to see businesses in Mexico that want to sell to the US leave Mexico and take their jobs with them, tourists to stop coming, etc. Had the Mexicans behaved responsibly and protected the fence Obama paid for, none of this would be necessary now.
That's false news. There was never any payment to build a fence or wall across the Mexican Guatemalan border and none was built. After articles appeared with Google Maps show no trace of fences or walls, more false articles were published claimed migrants tore them down.

Most of these articles that reference anything at all reference the February 2016 Congressional Research Service (CRS) report on “U.S.-Mexican Security Cooperation” that mentioned plans for the U.S. to provide “at least $75 million” in assistance to Mexico. However, that money would not be given to Mexico for the construction of a physical wall or fence (which would largely be impractical given the geography of the region), but rather it would be provided in the form of U.S. training and equipment assistance.
FALSE: President Obama Is Giving Mexico $75 Million to Build a Southern Border Wall

One look at the border tells why there are no fences and walls. Most of the 541 mile of border is made up of three river, Usumacinta River, the Salinas River, and the Suchiate River and most of remainder of the border is dense forest with very steep terrain and no roads. The remainder is populated areas with border crossing and check points which do have fenced areas in the vicinity.
 
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Apparently president Trump has gotten under your skin again. Illegals are killing an
I would say 100 thousand a month pouring over our border is a national emergency. What would you call it?

d raping Americans, so yes the border may need to be shut down.


So ? Are you willing to pay $2.00 for lettuce? Hmm?

At this point: yes, if it stops the flood. The border MUST be secured. It will take what it takes, it will cost what it costs. Seal the damn border.
58% just overstay their visas and the wall is stupid and won't work. Pass an ID card and amnesty for Worthy illegals about 11 million and end this crap!!
All 11 million should get the fuck out or face the same legal consequences they would if they broke into Mexico. Why the hell should we treat an illegal here better than they would be there? No matter how they get here if it's illegal prosecute the shit out of them.
That's easier said than done. Most people in the country illegally violated no criminal statue. They just overstayed their visa which is a regulatory infraction or a civil misdemeanor.

For those that entered the country illegal which is a crime, prosecution is difficult because just being in the country without proper identification is not illegal. This is why we don't prosecute these people for crimes. About the only one ones you can prosecute is those you catch at the border. However, since we don't have any place to put them, we just deport them which is not punishment for any crime but rather a correction in immigration status.

As I've said many time, fixing immigration starts with fixing the immigration laws. Most of those laws were written in a time when protecting the border was not a priority.
 
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Here is an idea how about both parties stop playing the political games they have been playing for decades in regards to the border and do their dam job. They are all more interested in having the border as fucked up as possible so they can keep using it as a campaign issue give Trump the money he wants for the wall or whatever you want to call it in exchange for a pathway to citizenship for the dreamers both sides get something they want and you deal with two big problems.


No need to give Tramp money for the wall. Mexico is paying for it, Tramp said so remember?
 
So ? Are you willing to pay $2.00 for lettuce? Hmm?

At this point: yes, if it stops the flood. The border MUST be secured. It will take what it takes, it will cost what it costs. Seal the damn border.
58% just overstay their visas and the wall is stupid and won't work. Pass an ID card and amnesty for Worthy illegals about 11 million and end this crap!!


Only the ones who aren’t on any type of publicity assistance. But all the ones who collect food stamp or welfare need to be deported
I only want the ones that committed a crime deported...

Wait, they all came here illegally.

Deport them all.
removing all 11.2 million of them would take about 20 years and cost the government between $400 billion and $600 billion. The impact on the economy would be even larger, according to the study: Real GDP would drop by nearly $1.6 trillion and the policy would shave 5.7 percent off economic growth.
How much would we save in public benefits, smaller class sizes, medical care, the addition of how many rental units?
 
Here is an idea how about both parties stop playing the political games they have been playing for decades in regards to the border and do their dam job. They are all more interested in having the border as fucked up as possible so they can keep using it as a campaign issue give Trump the money he wants for the wall or whatever you want to call it in exchange for a pathway to citizenship for the dreamers both sides get something they want and you deal with two big problems.


No need to give Tramp money for the wall. Mexico is paying for it, Tramp said so remember?
Tax remittances. We could build three walls.
 
Here is an idea how about both parties stop playing the political games they have been playing for decades in regards to the border and do their dam job. They are all more interested in having the border as fucked up as possible so they can keep using it as a campaign issue give Trump the money he wants for the wall or whatever you want to call it in exchange for a pathway to citizenship for the dreamers both sides get something they want and you deal with two big problems.


No need to give Tramp money for the wall. Mexico is paying for it, Tramp said so remember?
Tax remittances. We could build three walls.


So Mexico has sent the money, awesome!
 
Here is an idea how about both parties stop playing the political games they have been playing for decades in regards to the border and do their dam job. They are all more interested in having the border as fucked up as possible so they can keep using it as a campaign issue give Trump the money he wants for the wall or whatever you want to call it in exchange for a pathway to citizenship for the dreamers both sides get something they want and you deal with two big problems.


No need to give Tramp money for the wall. Mexico is paying for it, Tramp said so remember?
Is that before or after they build a wall on the Guatemalan Mexican border
 
Here is an idea how about both parties stop playing the political games they have been playing for decades in regards to the border and do their dam job. They are all more interested in having the border as fucked up as possible so they can keep using it as a campaign issue give Trump the money he wants for the wall or whatever you want to call it in exchange for a pathway to citizenship for the dreamers both sides get something they want and you deal with two big problems.


No need to give Tramp money for the wall. Mexico is paying for it, Tramp said so remember?
Yeah and the previous President said if you like your current healthcare plan and doctor you will be able to keep them remember?
 
Here is an idea how about both parties stop playing the political games they have been playing for decades in regards to the border and do their dam job. They are all more interested in having the border as fucked up as possible so they can keep using it as a campaign issue give Trump the money he wants for the wall or whatever you want to call it in exchange for a pathway to citizenship for the dreamers both sides get something they want and you deal with two big problems.


No need to give Tramp money for the wall. Mexico is paying for it, Tramp said so remember?
Is that before or after they build a wall on the Guatemalan Mexican border

Does it matter?
 
Here is an idea how about both parties stop playing the political games they have been playing for decades in regards to the border and do their dam job. They are all more interested in having the border as fucked up as possible so they can keep using it as a campaign issue give Trump the money he wants for the wall or whatever you want to call it in exchange for a pathway to citizenship for the dreamers both sides get something they want and you deal with two big problems.


No need to give Tramp money for the wall. Mexico is paying for it, Tramp said so remember?
Yeah and the previous President said if you like your current healthcare plan and doctor you will be able to keep them remember?


Interesting, I did and in fact do not know anyone that weren't able to. But nice deflection, did Mexico send the loot?
 
The best use for it is to keep the illegals out by building the fence, but if the Democrats hadn't refused funding for more detention facilities, the growing humanitarian crisis they created could have been eased.
The best use for it is to keep the illegals out by building the fence, but if the Democrats hadn't refused funding for more detention facilities, the growing humanitarian crisis they created could have been eased.
"Trump plan fails to cut immigration court backlog, as caseload soars more than 26%"

Trump plan fails to cut immigration court backlog, as caseload soars more than 26%

"The Trump administration's controversial plan to shrink the ballooning backlog of immigration cases by pushing judges to hear more cases has failed, according to the latest data, with the average wait for an immigration hearing now more than two years.

"Since October 2017, when the Justice Department approved a plan aimed at reducing the backlog in immigration court, the pending caseload has grown by more than 26%, from 655,932 cases to just shy of 830,000, according to Syracuse University’s Transactional Access Records Clearinghouse, which tracks data from immigration courts."
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Why are you surprised when an idiot racist makes legal immigration into a humanitarian disaster?
Huh?? Controlling the border is racist?
Huh?? Controlling the border is racist
Denying legitimate claims of political asylum is consistent with the actions of a lifelong bigot whose name was first published in his hometown newspaper as a defendant in a racial discrimination lawsuit.
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Refugee Blockade: The Trump Administration’s Obstruction of Asylum Claims at the Border

"In the run-up to the mid-term elections, President Trump focused much of his rhetoric on 'the caravan' of migrants heading north through Mexico.

"The caravan, which included many refugees, was, in the president’s telling, a would-be 'invasion' of the United States by 'bad people,' 'terrorists,' and 'Middle Easterners.'

"This purported threat to the country’s security was his stated rationale for deploying thousands of troops and, later, for firing tear gas at a group of migrants as they approached the border.

"But Human Rights First’s research shows that the Trump Administration itself has cultivated this alleged crisis.

"The actual threat to the law comes not from refugees seeking asylum but from the Trump Administration seeking to restrict this right.

"Instead of managing migration and processing refugee protection requests in an orderly way that upholds U.S. law and ideals, border officials are illegally turning away asylum seekers and have slowed processing of asylum claims at 'ports of entry.'"
Stop with the bullchitt. This issue is decades old. This is not being mean. And it is an issue that needs to be addressed. I feel sorry for the young people in our nation. All of those in your face out of shape people who are Progs are carcasses waiting for the feeding. The 1980's had Paul Volcker as the Fed chairman squeezing out debt with double digit interest rates. We had a massive stock market drop several years later. We had astock market collapse in Bill Clinton's last year as president. We had a housing collpapse because of the Progs delaying it for giving people who never paid off a debt loans in the first decade of this century. And we needed massive fiat currency infusion that screwed the taxpayer over. The next stock market downturn will be far worse as pensions will be affected and loans will collapse and even medical may be rationed.
Stop with the bullchitt. This issue is decades old. This is not being mean. And it is an issue that needs to be addressed.
When it comes to immigration, Trump seems to be making the issue much more confusing and much less fair:

Refugee Blockade: The Trump Administration’s Obstruction of Asylum Claims at the Border

"Human Rights First sent legal monitoring teams to the U.S.-Mexico border in November and early December 2018. They conducted field observations both before and after the arrival of the caravan. This report is based on that research, as well as analyses of government statistics and interviews with attorneys, legal organizations, asylum seekers, and government officials. Their findings include:

  • 'Illegal turn-backs and orchestrated bottlenecks at U.S. ports of entry are preventing many asylum seekers from requesting protection at official border posts. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) has reduced asylum processing at ports of entry for months even though the U.N. Refugee Agency warned of a 'significant increase in the number of people fleeing violence and persecution in the North of Central America,' and even as Trump Administration officials were telling asylum seekers to request protection at ports of entry to avoid criminal prosecution for illegal entry.
  • Unaccompanied children are being blocked from U.S. ports of entry. CBP agents and their Mexican counterparts have blocked children from seeking asylum at ports of entry. Since April 2018 when CBP adopted new policies to throttle the entry of asylum seekers—which officials claim do not apply to unaccompanied children—the number of unaccompanied children processed at southern border ports of entry has dropped by 61 percent."


New Numbers: 91 Percent of Central American Asylum Seekers Have Bogus Claims

[New numbers from the Department of Homeland Security show that just 9 percent of asylum claims made by individuals from Central America turn out to be legitimate. /QUOTE]

New Numbers: 91 Percent of Central American Asylum Seekers Have Bogus Claims
 
Trump is threatening to shut down the Mexican border.
Says he's not kidding.
Says it will be an economic boom for the U.S.
LOL!

What a fucking idiot.

I hope he does shut the border down, but it's the only way to get through the thick skulls of his supporters: through their jobs and the food on their tables.


""""Mexico is America's third-largest trade partner, and the two economies are deeply intertwined, with $558 billion in goods crossing the border in two-way trade last year alone. The Commerce Department estimated that in 2015, nearly 100,000 American jobs were supported by goods trade with Mexico.

If the border were to be shut down, experts say, the consequences would be immediate.

The first thing you’d start to see is a spike in car prices and factories in trouble,” said Richard Miles, senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies’s Americas program.

A huge portion of American trade with Mexico deals in parts, so shutting the border would immediately throw a wrench into the auto supply chain, as well as other manufacturing.

Another major casualty would be agriculture, which would hit farm states already facing a squeeze from a trade war with China.

Miles noted that corn and soybean exports to Mexico are big business for farmers in Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, Illinois and Indiana.

American consumers would see the difference at the supermarket, said Wilson.

Many foods such as avocados, tomatoes, lettuce, celery and a variety of berries come to the United State by way of Mexico."""
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https://thehill.com/policy/finance/423150-border-closure-could-cost-billions
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Well we can thank Pelosi and Schumer for this. Trump ran on the border and they block him every chance they can. If they cared about our security, this wouldn't happen.

They offered Trump the full amount for his wall back in Feb 2018, he turned it down. He is not an innocent bystander in this process.
The last deal he wanted just a little bit and they turned it down. Pelosi owns whatever happens.
 

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